College football, live by the completely subjective playoff process, die by the completely subjective playoff process.
There is no way these people get all the way to the end of the current contract with a four-team postseason field. No frickin’ way.
Get The Picture 
If ND and Clemson both get in isn’t that effectively giving the ACC TWO playoff slots? Just sayin’.
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If Mickey tells the committee to put ND in, they’re in pure and simple.
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I’ll go the other way: There is no way the committee leaves out an 11-1 Notre Dame team given the circumstances. Only loss is on the road to a playoff team, and they close by beating a 10-1 Stanford team.
If Baylor runs the table, makes it a more interesting conversation.
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“no way the committee leaves out an 11-1 Notre Dame team”
Baylor doth Protest too much
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But they don’t play a conference championship game. That was the rallying cry against Baylor and TCU last year.
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And ND does? One less win is guaranteed for them. Let them dream, then jerk the rug out from under them. Priceless will be my adjective. Not even sure ND belongs in the Top 10, and certainly not the Final 4. We want a rematch while we exclude other teams?
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I hope you are prophetic Senator, it is time to get this playoff to a proper level of teams to crown a national champion. It is also time to tell ND to take a hike from the special treatment they deserve. Reducing the number of conference champions from 4 to three may just do it, something needs to wake the Power 5 up, they have acted like little wimps to agree to put the Domers on a pedestal. CFB is way beyond the point where they need a ND to make them successful. Tell me again how long it has been since ND has won a decent, meaningful bowl game? And compare that t the number of times they got placed in a bowl above their ability and got crushed.
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Mac, you’re going to get your playoff expansion, but not because there’s a crying need to make sure the proper number of teams are represented in a quality sense. It’s to make sure nobody in the P5 misses getting their share of the pie.
And as long as ND has its own national television contract and following, it’s not getting moved anywhere.
It’s about the money and nothing else, and you are kidding yourself every time you think it’s not.
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It has always been about the money and always will be. That does not just apply to college football either. To think it has not always been that way is kidding yourself.
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And you are kidding yourself that it is all about the money. They work in tandem, but the fan outrage and injustice of it will fuel the change…and yes, money will flow from that.
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Fan outrage over a 11-1 ND in the playoff field because it’s not a conference member? Suuuure.
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I would be pissed. I think it is pretty shitty that they get to play by a different set of rules than everyone else–just because they were good when my grandparents were in their prime.
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My point was much broader than that, ND is a pimple on a cow’s ass to the totality of CFB. But they are muy grande in NYC, Philly, Boston, and Chicago…..with all 100K CFB fans who live there. I am trusting that the Committee will get it right and drop ND out if any Big 12 team runs the table. Then, hey, the Pope might back the 8 team playoff..along with which ever conference commish gets screwed this year.
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“I am trusting that the Committee will get it right …”
Stop it. You’re killing me. :joy:
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“outrage and injustice of it will fuel the change…”
¡Welcome Aboard, Comrade!
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I only fight for worthy causes, none of which you would seem to ever favor.
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This will forever be in the minds of Dog in Fla who shall never forget that you support having the seedings of the playoff determined by a confederacy of dunces some of whom have little or no touch with reality
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Ignatius J. Reilly would strenuosly object to such misuse of a noble title. 🙂
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A vagrant petitioned for a hot dog. Ignatius waved him away and strode forth knowing that he may already be a weiner 🙂
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Yes, like most politicians and government bureaucrats, the school presidents and conference commissioners are altruists who have your best interests at heart. Shame on Bluto for doubting that they’re doing God’s work.
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Nah. Notre Dame games draw eyeballs even when they have a losing record. Their fans are incredibly loyal and they watch, no matter what. That’s why they are and will continue to be a part of the conversation regardless of their record, lack of a championship and lack of affiliation. Their fan base can still be monetized.
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Have to go to 8. That way every conference champion is in plus 3 wild cards. But they need to also make a rule that every team has to play at least one team out of conference from a Power 5. And if you play 2 it should be a significant bonus.
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How about 6 teams with top two getting a bye?
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How about conference realignment so there are 4 superconferences each with 2 divisions. The division champs play for the conference title, those 4 conference champs play in a 4 team playoff with the 2 winners of the champions playing for the NC. That’s really an 8 team playoff with no subjectivity. ND has to join a conference if they want in and likely that conference would be the ACC.
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Wet dream stuff there Mayor. Thought it might happen 2-3 years ago but that ship has sailed. Easier to go with 8, less friction there, and doesn’t require balls.
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Say you have a 3 loss conference champion ranked (P5) ranked #12. Should they get in? Just because they are champs, bur clearly not top 8 material? I believe that if you go to conference champs getting in, you could have new conferences form that shouldn’t and maybe current conferences split to make new alliances. Check March Madness for results….
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Yeah, a 3 loss conference champ from a tough conference could easily be better than a 1 loss from a weaker conference. Championships mean something. Let them in.
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Absolutely they should get in. Haven’t seen a 3 loss champ before, but they represent that conference and who can argue SOS any more?
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I get a mental picture that the committee has an ad rate sheet, classified by team, on the table during their meetings.
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HS, I absolutely think they have an ad sheet at the table. They’ll never admit it, but the WWL is about one thing and on thing only – the Benjamins.
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Disagree, Committeehasn o allegiance to Mickey. Can argue their opinion/logic but I see nothing that indicates they are playing favorites (seem to have pissed off everyone at this point). Those games will draw strong ratings regardless of who is in.
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Sorry, “has shown no allegiance to Mickey”
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Except for the weekly ratings show they put on for the sole purpose of giving ESPN broadcast material.
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Yeah, I am not a fan of the weekly show on this. But nothing links them to the WWL in how they make their selections. I would be more concerned if rankings were leaked to ESPN reporters. Not sure what the benefit is for announcing this early (I know, I know, the money in your point of view.) But I could do with the 1st rankings being timed after mid-November. I do like seeing how they start all over each week, instead of following the polls’ method where there is no movement/change unless someone loses. Much much better process to me.
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Mickey writes the checks. Therefore, there’s allegiance.
I was being sarcastic about the ad sheet comment, but I don’t doubt for one minute that the main reason Tattoo U jumped over TCU/Baylor was the brand that translates to ratings and to advertising revenue for Mickey.
I admit to a bias – I HATE the selection committee and have made that clear from day 1. I want a champions only playoff with 8, but that will never happen for many reasons. If it were going to be 4, the BcS was sufficient for the selection, but the coaches poll became so biased and toxic that it wasn’t feasible.
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For Doomsday 2015 to happen, Baylor has to win out. I don’t think that happens.
This conversation is what makes college football great. Endless arguments over who is good, better, best. I miss “Leonards Losers”.
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+1 on Leonard’s Losers.
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The red clay hounds!
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+1 on Leonard
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The Classic City Canines will have their paws filled when they visit the Tigers from the Plains. The Red Clay Hounds have barely been getting the job done but they’ll have blood in their eyes this weekend. Leonard’s loser, Auburn
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🙂
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What about OK State? Gundy is a man! Might even be “the” man in the Big 12 this year…he has home field all the way on top games.
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Stanford will take care of this problem.
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Fingers crossed.
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Guys, no matter how unfair it is, if ND gets awarded a playoff berth, there is a chance I will get to watch Alabama kick nine shades of shit out of them again. That makes me happy.
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Great news. 8 team playoff for the win!
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” If it wins out, Notre Dame’s only loss would be to the No. 1 Tigers on the road, in the rain, with a backup quarterback.”
…So if you’re Catholic you can use rain as an excuse.
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if ND wins out beating a one loss Stanford team in Palo Alto, they deserve to be in unless Baylor runs the table
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Stanford kills ND. Moot point.
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Would like to see The Ohio State drill Bama again….all else is gravy.
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That would be a nightmare. ohio fans are, collectively, the worst. Hope MSU and UM drill ohio.
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The Ohio state university has the best damn fans in the land, the best damn band in the land, and the best damn team in the land.
Hold your tongue. Our fans don’t require neutral site games to show up, either. They are everywhere and they show up.
That said, the fighting Kellys aren’t going to make it to the playoffs. They don’t play “Stanford football” . besides… They’re all Catholic… They will obey the cardinals.
So let it be written…
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Top 1% of the Top 1%? Fitting I suppose. I think Stanford can knock ND out but hate for it to come down to one game. I think if the Top 3 hold serve, and either Baylor or OK State goes undefeated, the Committee drops ND. Just don’t see them crapping on the Big 12 again since either would have a more impressive resume.
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Good. Playoffs should include 16 teams at minimum.
This is entertainment.
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Patience, my son. It’s coming.
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16 is a joke. Make it 32. Maybe we can have it last until May.
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seriously though, i think we can all agree to a 64 team playoff with a 2 team play in of the 4 that just missed the cut.
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^^^THIS!! Then the 1 game regular season will have meaning!!
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Why not skip the regular season and start the playoffs in week one? Everybody gets a shot.
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Also, in the name of entertainment, we could crank up the music LOUDER! More blackouts! Get rid of the marching band in favor of some newer, hipper halftime experiences. Mix up the uniforms to follow Oregon’s lead. What’s not to like?
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I am of the opinion that Clemson is no. 1 solely so they can rank ND fourth. Don’t kid yourselves, Notre Dame always falls up. They won’t get left out at 11-1 no matter what. And at 10-2 with a very close loss to Stanford they’ll be closer to 4 than they deserve to be. A loss by bama or Ohio state pushes them back in the conversation.
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So far, nd’s best “win” is a loss, and they should be glad it rained. Stanford is their only chance for a decent win, and if the Tree loses to the domers, it will be at least a 2 loss team. They will fall out because of their weak schedule.
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Sagarin ranks ND’s SOS 16th.
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Sagarin has been way off on those before. ND should take a hit with WF and BC coming up. Again, ND has no, zero, quality wins. Satnford could be one, but just one. Undefeated Bayklor or OSU would trump that in quality and quantity.
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I think ND will get in. I hope they don’t. This selection committee thing
is something I have no use for. Changes need tp be made. The top 4 does
Not impress me at all. Alabama isthe best team right now, but they may
not make the top 4. Winning the SEC is still more impressive to me.
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I’m just glad that Herschel was able to go all Beast mode on ND on Jan. 1 1980! That’s all I remember when I hear anything about ND football!
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What works for the FCS (as well as every other collegiate sport) would work for the FBS..if the B$ were removed.
9 game conference schedule conference championships, regionals, quarterfinals, semi finals, and championship game….and you have the entire month of December to play those games.
Bowl and network money are ruining college football. Let them compete for championships, not bid on them.
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I think fall football should stay like it is now, the natty business can just do its thing, Sec champs are the only real titles for us anyways.
There should be spring football that is 7 on 7 and uses the ncaa basketball schedule and tournament as a model. Let the OC run it, gets your skill players good workouts to be ready in the fall.
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I never thought I ever would say this but I wish we could go back to the BCS. The committee is just awful.
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This is the worst play calling I could think ever. We need work .
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Boom
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