“It looks like it’s about a 50-50 split.”

Now is not a happy time for Dawgnation.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution and DawgNation.com reached out to people this week who are in positions of knowledge and influence when it comes to the inner workings of the University of Georgia and its athletics association. Some declined comment and some spoke only in broad generalities. But others spoke candidly on the condition of anonymity.

This much is clear: There is a lot of dissatisfaction about the leadership and direction of Georgia football.

“There are five or six members of the board of regents that are extremely disenchanted with the state and condition of the football program at the University of Georgia,” one person with direct knowledge said about the situation.

It’s been a season of disappointments, no question.  But I can’t help but chuckle over one of the complaints.

But there are more specific complaints about the way things have gone this season. Some individuals contacted complained about the pregame “skirmish” that ensued against Alabama in the season’s fifth game. They were further embarrassed when the Crimson Tide later took advantage of some major fundamental breakdowns — a blocked punt for a touchdown started the onslaught — in what ended up a lopsided 38-10 defeat.

We might have excused you for behaving like dicks before the game, boys, if only you’d have gone on to play well.

This is pretty unsurprising, too.

Even last week’s win over Georgia Southern drew criticism. The Bulldogs won 23-17 in overtime, but they obviously struggled to do so. And to have expressed such joy and exhilaration against an inferior in-state program that only recent moved up to the Sun Belt Conference did not sit well with longtime supporters.

“I love to see them win but, Saturday night, beating Georgia Southern in overtime, and we’re excited about it? Please,” said one major donor. “This is the University of Georgia. Who did we beat this year? Vanderbilt? Kentucky? And we’re excited about beating Georgia Southern in overtime?”

“This is the University of Georgia”, eh?  A legend in our own minds… the reality is Georgia, historically speaking, is an above-average program with occasional peaks of greatness.  (Some of which Mark Richt has supplied, by the way.)  But don’t stop those regents.  They’re on a roll.

Said Dr. Thomas Hopkins of Griffin, a member of the board of regents: “I don’t have a position on it. Around the table, we (regents) just say we’re glad we don’t have anything to do with hiring and firing coaches. That’s just not what the board of regents does. We entrust those duties to the president of the university and the athletic director.”

But that doesn’t mean they don’t have an opinion about it and that they wouldn’t share it. Several have.

Not on the record, though.  Real profiles in courage there.

Where were you guys when Goff was hired, or Donnan?  Or Richt himself, for that matter?  Why were you apparently content with emphasizing the reserve fund over spending money on the football program over most of Richt’s tenure?  Why was Michael Adams’ interference with the program tolerated?  If you’ve known what you wanted, you’ve sure had a funny way of showing it over the years.

None of this is about keeping Richt.  But to the 50% who want him gone, who think it’s time for Georgia to be what you think Georgia is, here’s what I have to say.  You have checkbooks, and now is the time to put your money where your anonymous mouths are.  Tell McGarity that money is no object.  Tell him you’ll pay for the buyouts.  Tell him that you’ll back his play with the most expensive replacement hire he can land, if that’s what it takes.  And tell him that you’ll be there to pay for everything the new guy wants, because it’ll take that, too.

Otherwise, save your grumbling.  Because it doesn’t mean any more than what I see in the comment threads here at the blog.

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137 responses to ““It looks like it’s about a 50-50 split.”

  1. Scorpio Jones, III

    “Every time I think I am out, they pull me back in.”

    By God sir, well done. Bang that drum early and often, podnah.

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  2. Well said Senator What a dumpster fire.

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  3. Bright Idea

    This is the same BOR that ruined 2 good schools in Augusta so they might be wise to keep their pompous asses out of the football business.

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    • It worked out great for the folks who paint signs around Augusta.

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    • Debby Balcer

      My thoughts actually!! Their Egos are enormous. They named the new school they “created” after themselves. It is a scary thought if they are the decision makers. Only after they erased the history of those schools did they acquiesce and put Augusta back in the name but the Medical College of Georgia is still gone.

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      • Mayor

        It sure as hell killed the former 2 time national champion Augusta State University golf team, too. The HC would contact recruits using the new school name and they didn’t even know it was the same team that won back-to-back national titles. This is what you get when you have politicians making education and sports decisions. At bottom, that was really was wrong with Mike Adams (other than being a crook). Adams’ background was in politics and not as an educator. I see an improvement in the golf program now that the name has been changed to “Augusta University.” But I think that the Medical College is still suffering. That was one of the top public medical schools in the US–over 200 years old–and under the name they gave the combined school (I will not repeat it here as we are all trying to forget it) the medical college enrollment suffered because prospective students thought it was an internet school.

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  4. Timphd

    Make a friggin decision and move ahead with it! This hanging in the wind will only hurt the program long term. And God please don’t base your decision on the Tech game, you should know by now what you want to do if you’re B-M. Come out and announce that Richt is here another year or fire him and get the process of replacing him going. LSU is killing their program with Miles rumors and UGA should learn from what is happening there.

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    • Ben

      Exactly. I’m a known Richt apologist, and if this crap goes on past the bowl game, we’re done for. Carolina will have their guy, Va Tech will have theirs, and LSU will, too. If those guys take someone like Fisher or Swinney, they won’t hang around, either. The BoR should just step up and make a decision and stick with it.

      This hemming and hawing is helping no one except their egos, but they only seem to care about themselves anyway.

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    • Jeff

      Yes! We have four guys among Rivals top 20 overall prospects seriously, and I mean seriously, considering UGA. One may already be a silent commit, and the folks at BM are trying their best to screw it up!

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  5. Gaskilldawg

    Senator, you hit the nail on the head. The anonymous Regents and Athletic Board members want Alabama type outcomes without Alabama type commitments from themselves.
    Saban has never won at MSU or LSU as he has at Alabama. That should give everyone a clue as to the difference in the support the same coach got at different Power 5 schools.

    Suspend players for first weed offense or for underage possession of alcohol while Alabama does not? Regents and Athletic Board can change policies such as that.

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  6. SKB

    This is basically like the Obama administration.. too afraid that if they make a decision they will have to take responsibilities and would not want to be held responsible.

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  7. UGA85

    When you have the year(s) that we have had, dissension and grumbling will come. I think we are all seeing more discontent with our football program. I realize that many on this blog place the blame above CMR. However, many others do not. How will these numbers shake out? It will be interesting to see; it may be very close. Either way, the status quo is becoming less and less popular, and change at some level seems unavoidable.

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    • I realize that many on this blog place the blame above CMR. However, many others do not.

      These should not be mutually exclusive concepts.

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      • UGA85

        No, when you look like we do, there is plenty of blame to go around. But in most athletic departments, IMO, when one of your teams underperforms, the person to critique and examine is the coach of that team. That is the way the system usually works. That is the reality of football. UGA, as much as many would like, is ultimately no different. The coach has to bear the responsibility.

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        • It really doesn’t matter what other athletic departments do, does it? All I can deal with is the one I’m stuck with.

          I swear, if I argued the way some of you guys do, I’d accuse you of giving B-M a pass on the current mess.

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          • UGA85

            I guess my response is that rarely do athletic departments, AD’s, etc. get cleaned out when a football team does not meet expectations, leaving the coach in place. I don’t think I have seen that. The system, IMO, is just not set up so that the AD bears the blame for the football team’s failings.

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            • Really? It just happened at Illinois.

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              • UGA85

                If that is the case, I stand corrected. I don’t know the circumstances, but was there corruption involved? In any case, doesn’t the exception prove the rule?

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                • What difference does it make? Georgia’s dysfunctional in its own special way. That’s all we’ve got to deal with.

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                • Chi-town Dawg

                  Actually, we’re seeing more and more examples of the AD being shown the door when the football program tanks especially if the AD was responsible for hiring the football coach. Look at Michigan and Texas as two more recent examples. You could argue the ADs were both lightening rods of controversy, but I’d be willing to bet that if the football teams weren’t underperforming, then both guys would still be in charge. Either way, without wholesale changes that go beyond firing Richt and McGarity, we’ll continue to get the results we deserve.

                  As far as making open ended financial commitments Senator, I decided long ago to give these guys just enough to keep my ticket spots in line because I sure as hell wouldn’t trust them to “invest” my money wisely with an open checkbook.

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                • UGA85

                  I guess if you tie the AD and coach together, that happens. But McGarity did not hire CMR. I can’t see both of them leaving together.

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        • Red Cup

          We agree about coach’s responsibility. As the Senator suggests, we do not think the BOR, Butts-Mehre and the rest to spend the money to buy out the contracts and then spend the millions on whatever coach you think is the best now. The competition for those guys will make it more expensive. We have NO confidence that these chicken shits will make good hiring decision.

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          • Ben

            So we stick with the guy who has made a nice purse out of a sow’s ear for the past few seasons.

            We played for a title in 11 and 12. We had crushing injuries in 13 (few teams would have made a run after those losses), and 14 was a season of emotional highs and lows that sometimes happen when (wait for it) you’re dealing with kids.

            If we use the UGA metric for underperformance, then there are about 120 programs (give or take a few) that underperform every year.

            I’d say that our responses here are just a small indicator about how the BCS and the playoff is eroding our enjoyment of the game and the team we profess to love.

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        • Coastal Dawg

          It isn’t just the football program though ’85. Name one homerun hire from GM? He is responsible for the PR trainweck last year leading up to the bowl game. GM botched the Gurley issue. He’s routinely punked by other ADs at the conference trying to get the conference rules to level out. The only thing he does is ring the cash register. The problem, as I see it, is that is what the BOR place first on the list.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      Let’s look at the issue from this perspective. UGA’S administration budgets a little over $26 million for football. That is about the middle of the SEC. Alabama budgets about $51 million and Auburn about, IIRC, $47 million.

      Let’s say you get you wish and, say, the Fuentes guy from Memphis is wearing a Georgia cap in a December press conference. Do you really want to send him out to compete with over $20 million less in resources than his competition?

      Is that not a concern for you?

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      • UGA85

        It is kind of the chicken and the egg for me. Good, solid coaching begets good things. Wins over good teams, recognition for doing great things with the resources you have, etc. With the wins comes better recruiting, more name recognition, excitement about the program, more funding for assistants, facilities, then championships and the like. All of this is part of it, but it starts with doing well with what you have, or good, sound coaching. So, to answer your question, if Fuentes came and did (for instance) what Dantonio has done over time, then I believe everything else would fall into place. If he came and did not do well, then the resources would not matter. It would fall apart.

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        • Dawgfan Will

          Perhaps. Or perhaps the powers-that-be decide to keep up the status quo support-wise because someone new manages to duplicate Richt’s early success. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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        • Gaskilldawg

          I do not follow what facts led to your conclusion that Fuentes would be able to out perform proven coaches such as Saban without the support staff Saban has.
          Your argument is that Fuentes will win big time in the SEC and therefore will be able to recruit better than the other SEC teams. That just assumes that Fuentes will just beat other outstanding coaches who have more staff making reciting contacts, analyzing opponents for the on field coaches, and reviewing their own team for quality control because we wish it to be. Fuentes is 4-3 against AAC coaches, but give him a $21 million handicap against SEC coaches he will win big?

          Why? Because he isn’t Richt.

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          • UGA85

            I don’t think you read the last part of my post. I don’t know beans about Fuentes, BTW, and only mentioned him because you mentioned his name previously. My point is that good coaching begets big wins, better recruiting, more money, better facilities, etc. Bad coaching does not. I have no idea which side of that line Fuentes would be on. And UGA is not financially handicapped vs. UT, Ole Miss, MSU, and others who are having good years.

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            • Gaskilldawg

              You are demanding better results than UT, MSU and Ole Miss have produced. You want Alabama results. Good coaching is important but the guys you want to beat are GREAT coaches and you poo-poo the importance of your good coach having the resources available to their great coaches. I guess you belive that Alabama’s $51 million budget does not mean much.

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              • UGA85

                You emphasize money a great deal. Some schools above us have more money available, but others do not. Do I think the right coach could come to UGA and win the East with our current resources? Yes. Dan Mullen, for instance, would have likely won the East last year and this year, had he been in the East, and his budget is a fraction of ours. To me, its about the coaching first and foremost. Everything else comes next. Right now, winning the East is beyond us, let alone Bama. How about we start beating UF and UT first, then worry about Bama?

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                • lakedawg

                  If Dawgs had Dak Prescott at QB you think they would not have won east. Course losing Chubb may be not, that cost us one game maybe two. If defense could have held Tenn and Dobbs and we were 10-2 would some of these ldiscussions be happening.

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      • The Real Dr. Pepper

        Gee. Auburn spends $21 million more than us and routinely gets there ass kicked by us. Weird huh?

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    • Argondawg

      The average fan doesn’t have any idea of the structures in place to support the football team. From personnel to facilities they have absolutely no idea what it takes to run a D1 football program. They also have no idea of the disparities between the top and bottom programs. Most fans remember the HC at their high school and that is the model they use. People just want the dawgs to win more and if they don’t then someone’s head has to roll and the head coach is most visible. They don’t put any more thought into it than that.

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  8. AO

    The “secrecy” is total crap. People’s inability to be good stewards of the power or control they have as leaders is always astounding. Make a decision for crying out loud.

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  9. Reipar

    I would like to point out that to believe this article you have to trust the judgment of the ajc for what they define as major donors and people of influence.

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    • Chip’s quoted members of the board of regents. How would you define those folks?

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      • Uglydawg

        His sources?
        “One person with direct knowledge of the situation” (could be the guy who delivers lunch to the board meetings).
        “Some individuals contacted” (followed by his own re-cap of the Bama game)
        “said one major donor”.
        The one source he actually identified, Dr. Hopkins, pretty much told him that the BOR isn’t involved.
        No doubt there is some sentiment to take the football program in a different direction. But if we look at the basketball and baseball programs, there’s work to be done there too.

        Maybe CMR could be promoted to AD and find his own replacement?

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        • The other Doug

          Yeah, I read it similarly. We have to trust the AJC to be journalists and the sources are as influential as we are lead to believe. Or maybe they needed hits.

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        • He also mentioned speaking with several other board members.

          Look, I get it. You think the AJ-C is sensational to the point of dishonesty. Thanks for sharing.

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          • PTC DAWG

            I think the AJC wants hits, period.

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            • Of course it does. But that doesn’t preclude the beat writers from doing their jobs. What’s going on is news, like it or not.

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              • Scorpio Jones, III

                What’s going on now is speculation that is deemed to be newsworthy. News will happen when some decision is announced at some future date, maybe, possibly. That the speculation generates web traffic is as much a comment on the medium as it is on the subject of the speculation.

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                • You think the unrest he’s reporting is speculation?

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                • Scorpio Jones, III

                  Show me a statement anyone actually involved has made that indicates, even obliquely, that a coaching change is in the works, or even contemplated. So, yes.

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                • This article isn’t saying there’s a coaching change in the works. It’s reporting on dissatisfaction in the fan base.

                  Look, I get that Bradley and Schultz speculate. It’s not fair to tar the beat writers with the same brush.

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                • Scorpio Jones, III

                  It is not surprising at all that we have a different definition of reporting.

                  If you are asking if I am unaware of disappointment in some segments of the fan base, which is not the same question, the obviously the answer is yes.

                  There is a perfectly valid reason good journalists do one source stories.

                  If “Chip’s” piece is a “story” then it is bad journalism. If it is a column, which it would appear to me to be, then it is fair game for the tar brush.

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                • Scorpio Jones, III

                  “There is a perfectly valid reason good journalists do one source stories.”
                  There is a perfectly valid reason good journalists do NOT do…

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                • It’s the way of the world these days. Sorry if you don’t like it. But that doesn’t make it speculative. It just means that sources are more chickenshit than they used to be. And that the media lets them get away with it.

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                • Scorpio Jones, III

                  Bluto…it is not whether I like it or not. When law and journalism sit down at the table for Thanksgiving there is usually a considerable salad of semantic differential. If you are having oyster dressing, you might want to try Zantac before the meal. That’s not a story, it is speculation. 😀

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                • You’re confusing your notion of journalistic standards with speculation. Again, that’s your business. It’s not where much of the media is these days.

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              • Coastal Dawg

                Senator, I don’t belive the AJC is just making this stuff up. However, I do believe that those with a specific agenda are feeding them quotes and information that specifically push that agenda. And yes I know that is what people do. However, good journalists don’t let that happen and look for both sides. The problem with the folks at the ACJ is they are lazy and not good journalists. This strikes me as what Conrad Fink would have called a “Phone in Story”. You take the phone calls but don’t bother to do any more digging for yourself or even seeking a response from the other side.

                Again that isn’t to say there isn’t angst. This blog is a pretty good gauge of the feelings of the Dawg Nation.

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                • Scorpio Jones, III

                  Exactly. Chip Towers is given an assignment. That assignment includes asking Mark Richt about his future during the pre-Tech press conference.

                  When Chip reports the quote from Richt to his editors, they decide they will troll folks they view as influential, whether they are or not is up for speculation. The two quoted emeritus board members basically say nothing except that we need to beat Tech, which is a shocking revelation.

                  Ultimately, the idea that one of the truly influential folks at Georgia would even take a phone call from an DJC reporter is laughable. Note the response (s) from Jere Morehead.

                  The only people who took his call are those with the above agenda.

                  Again, there is clearly a good bit of angst among the members of the fan base who express themselves here. The speculation is that this group represents an opinion a large portion of the overall fan base holds. Who knows if this is true?

                  The only facts in evidence are that Georgia did not have the kind of season some people, mostly far away from the program thought they would have.

                  In the world of instant media access, that makes everything about Georgia football fair game for constant speculative reporting.

                  Chip is just trying to keep his job.

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                • Scorpio Jones, III

                  Oh…my notion of journalistic standards is based on time in the arena, just as Bluto’s standards of legal ethics are based on his continuing service in that arena.

                  Not liking some of the trends in journalism does not preclude me from being able to smell the rank odor of speculative gotcha journalism.

                  Oh Lord, the inlaws are here for turkey….

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                • Classic example of attack the messenger if you don’t like what he has to say eh?

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                • Coastal Dawg

                  You make my point, Scott. Journalist are not supposed to messengers. They are supposed to be investigative reporters. It isn’t the message. We all know there is angst, unrest hair pulling and whatever else.

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                • If you don’t believe that dissatisfaction with Richt is an opinion shared by a large percentage of the fan base, including those close to the program, you have your head planted firmly in the sand.

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                • lakedawg

                  Chili you are about an ignorant post I have read from you yet. No the majority of fan base love CMR and do majority of boosters who I suspect you are not. So quit mouthing opinions of others , just your usual bull shit.

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                • Cosmic Dawg

                  When Chip reports the quote from Richt to his editors>

                  They have editors?

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              • Apparently if you don’t like the message than disparage the messenger.

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  10. Uglydawg

    I’ve looked high and low and can’t find all the people who are “excited about beating GSU”. Hyperbole abounds
    Seems to me that most everyone seemed relieved and disgusted at the same time.

    It’s pretty clear that the AJC wants this controversy expanded and CMR fired so that….they can sell a lot of papers!
    Whatever happens with this dumpster fire of a situation, the AJC will be the accelerator.

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      I doubt anybody at the Dunwoody JC cares about Mark Richt one way or t’other. Their job(s) is/are to generate readership…clicks…to asign motive other than that is giving credit where none is due…seems to me.

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    • AusDawg85

      I’m sure the reference is more to how the players reacted after the game…which is a bullshit observation no better than those made on blogsites. The kids had to fight hard, overcome turnovers, and won in OT in a exciting way for both the D and the O. Emotions were high, and it was mainly the seniors who when over to the student section to celebrate…there last chance ever between the hedges. Had I been in the stadium last Saturday night, I would have stayed long and applauded loudly for the seniors too. To infer that this was celebrating beating a weaker foe is just stupid, mean-spirited and driving an entirely different agenda. The new Georgia Way it seems.

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    • Ben

      I wonder if people at UF are ready to fire McElwain because his guys almost lost to FAU, because that was a lot more embarrassing than getting past GSU this year.

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      • Mike Cooley

        I doubt it. To me the two situations are pretty different. Florida has lost one game and that was a close one to a good team. We on the other hand have been embarrasses by the good teams we’ve played, blew a big lead to a team that is t very good, and scraped by a few bad teams. I see people using Florida’s close win over FAU as a way to excuse our near bed crapping against GSU and I don’t know why they can’t see how different the two situations are. They are having a really good season under a first year head coach. We are having what has become a normal season under a coach that has been there for a long time. When you get right down to it, a lot of this is Richt fatigue. He has been in Athens for a long time and people feel like it is the same old same old and right or wrong they are just sick of it. Florida is energized and seems to have a bright future ahead. Apples and oranges.

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        • Exactly. But of course the lifetime contract for Richt supporters only bring up UFs head coach for that one game. They ignore the fact that a first year head coach is playing for the SEC title with a relatively crummy roster. It doesn’t fit in with their narrative of “OMG if we fire Richt we’re guaranteed to become UT or whoever after Fulmer!!!!!!” At least FU had the balls to take a shot at greatness. We might be the most scared fan base in the country.

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          • UF also went 3-9 2 years ago and didn’t run Boom off after that. He got another year after the worst year since the early 80s for Gator football. Sorry, but UF’s decision last year and our decision this year are apples and oranges. Assuming Georgia wins on Saturday and a bowl game, they probably end the season in the back end of the top 25 and a year removed from a top 10 finish. Regardless of your opinion of Richt, the situation would be closer to Tennessee with Phat Phil than Florida with Boom.

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  11. AthensHomerDawg

    The Board of Regents
    “The people that create their own storms and then get upset when it rains.”

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    • Uglydawg

      The AJC
      The asshats that create stories and perpetuate ill will by interviewing undisclosed sources and ghosts so they can sell some paper.

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  12. skeeterdawg

    Well said senator. Couldn’t have put it better.

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  13. FIRE THE REGENTS ……If these nit wits don’t have enough sense about who to talk to and who not to talk to they do not have enough sense to to have any say in how this education system is run, Hire Bobo.(This sentiment applies to McGarity as well.)
    When exactly did sports journalists become yellow journalists?

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  14. roterhals

    Agree with most all of this BUT, about that Alabama pregame “skirmish”… If you’re gonna act like a bully (or dick), you better be able to back it up. These ridiculous pregame shoving matches seem to be happening more often. Fake juice perhaps?

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  15. ClydeBoogie

    Unless, you are a Nick Saban clone you better not come to the SEC. Period, the moment you except the job the hour glass begins.

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  16. Cosmic Dawg

    Agree with those above who say anyone who loves the program ought not to be talking to the AJC until after something/nothing happens. Talking to the press is not improving the situation one bit.

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  17. Irwin R. Fletcher

    We’re excited and looking forward to beating Georgia Tech. As I recall, we owe them one. We sure helped them last year.”

    Sorry…but I couldn’t help chuckle at the ‘I’m not going to say anything about the coach butttttttt let me make sure I get in a passive aggressive comment about his coaching at the end of my quote.

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  18. midgadawg

    Senator – good stuff here – I sit here thinking if they fine crafted their message yet – somebody needs to man up on the whole deal. It’s either full backing or start with a whole new coaching staff – but alas I have no faith in BM – our problem is people expect a Cadillac performance with a Pinto cost. Sometimes I think BM will expect college FB costs to regress back to some type of civility – you can only last so long on the cheap before it catches up with you – but egos in certain areas will not profess this. Everybody have a Happy Thanksgiving and lets get a win – working with Tech guys can make a year last a long time..

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    • Mayor

      “…our problem is people expect Cadillac performance with a Pinto cost.” This!! It only gets worse when the HC pulls a rabbit out of a hat and gets a Cadillac result once in awhile, too. Dooley did it several times and had the best program in the nation from 1980-1984 “on the cheap.” To his credit CMR did it 4 times (2 SEC Championship teams and 2 near misses–2007 and 2012) with inferior resources. When a HC is able to do it at all, even once, the suits think, “he should do it every year.”

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  19. UGA85

    To me, the gist of the article is that the dissatisfaction with CMR is far greater than some believe. Far greater, for instance, than 15%. GTP is a wonderful blog, with lots of dissenting views expressed. But those in power may have a more negative view of CMR’s coaching than those on this blog. That message is getting louder and clearer over time, IMO.

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      Is it not, since we are speculating, just as possible that those in power have a more positive view of the coaching?

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    • Cosmic Dawg

      Except in football or politics, those who favor the status quo never get as much ink. There’s no story. So the change agents get a slight advantage over the “silent majority” as far as coverage goes. They’re angry and they’re expressive.

      I’d throw out a wild guess at 65% fans want to keep Richt, 35% want him to go.

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  20. Lrgk9

    Wrong guy in the AD office.
    Wrong year to coach shop.

    Wait til next year takes in new meaning.

    I reiterate – Fire McGarity and saddle the new guy with the responsibility of deciding/firing/hiring.

    Have a thousand times more confidence in Mark Richt than Greg “Queeg” McGarity.

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    • I actually agree with your comments: wrong AD and definitely the wrong year to replace a coach.

      This is probably my third or fourth post on this site. But with all of the talk about changing the coach, I just want to add my two cents. Personally, I would give Richt two more seasons… Only if he has the guts to replace Schottenheimer. This season has come down to the stupidest decision I have seen a coaching staff make: give the most important position on the field to a player that lost his job at a losing program. The guy responsible for this decision is Schottenheimer. The week after the Tech game, if Richt doesn’t let this guy go, then Richt needs to go (next season will be just as bad – why wait). One last thing, I’m saying two years because Pruitt’s first full recruiting class will be juniors (he inherited his first class); and Eason will have been on campus for 1.5 years, have a command of the offense and will have game experience. Without squib kicks, 2017 can set up to be a great season.

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      • Dolly Llama

        Hear, hear, hell yes, especially on the “if Richt doesn’t let this guy go, then Richt needs to go.” The guy’s a disaster. It ain’t getting any better if he stays. He the scion of NFL royalty, allegedly. He’ll land on his feet.

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  21. PTC DAWG

    Your last two paragraphs are spot on.

    Have a nice Thanksgiving…

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  22. Mayor

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

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  23. W Cobb Dawg

    It’s the monotony that will eventually catch up with CMR. Maybe not this year, but the day will come. Don’t get me wrong – 8, 9, 10 wins each and every year is an accomplishment. But we are also guaranteed to experience a dramatic clusterf#@k in one or more vital areas of the program, be it O, D, ST, s&c, recruiting/roster management, injuries, off-field issues, or the brain-dead play call/game plan that results in another embarrassing face plant. That’s become commonplace – and it’s hugely depressing.

    Next year ut will have Dobbs back and fu will have Grier back. Scu and mizzou will have new HCs – which brings a spark of change to their programs. Those teams will have reasons for optimism. Seems like the only thing we can hope for is CMR will manage to get out of his own way and reach a division title, sec crown, and/or playoff berth.

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  24. Macallanlover

    UGA has become a dysfunctional program because of lack of leadership, from the BOR on down. We deserve the fallout that will follow. I begin to care less every time the non-thinkers speak out. But CFB is still great, and lessons will continue to be learned so I can continue to look forward to Saturday’s in the fall. I fully expect to experience a downturn in UGA football, just wish those who contributed to it suffer the most. Not saying we are the only program where the loonies have gotten their way and did harm, but we are probably the one where it was the least deserved.

    So the players should not have felt good and celebrated a hard fought win? What exactly is the suggestion for behavior from those people who made that comment? It isn’t like the goal posts were torn down. GT is a lesser team than GS this year, should our guys hang their heads if they win on Saturday? Our performance against GS was more impressive than FU’s against FAU last weekend, could have sworn I saw those Gator fans and players raising their hands in celebration. As I indicated before, the inmates are now in charge of the asylum. But it has been a good ride, sorry some of you missed it with all your whining.

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    • You guys DO realize that at some point MR is going to retire right? And then your worst nightmare of not having your hero will be a certainty. When you drink your scotch late at night are you properly terrified about this eventuality? Or are you secretly working on a way to clone him?

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      • Macallanlover

        You have never understood a thing I have said. I said, years ago, CMR should walk away from UGA, primarily due to the tolerance and bad behavior of certain fans. I hope he does next week. He deserves better given the job he has done, issues he has wrestled with, and results he has gotten.

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        • You’re a clown, dude. Remember the criticisms of people elevating Richt above the program? That’s you. You’re literally the banner man.

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          • Uglydawg

            Mac a clown? Nay. A serious poster who just diisagrees with you.

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            • No, he’s a clown. Clowns tell jokes. Richt being too good for Georgia because he’s drawn criticism when he’s the highest paid state employee in Georgia is a joke. You can disagree with the criticism all you want, but if you think Richt should be above criticism, that he’s “too good” for Georgia fans, you’re living in a sick, twisted, idol-worshipping fantasy. Richt has gotten 15 years at Georgia in an era when coaches do not get that long. He’s been paid, handsomely. He’s been praised and worshipped by many in the fan base and generally been saved from the ire other coaches get because he’s a nice guy. Georgia has been EXTREMELY good to Mark Richt, and if you think he could go anywhere else and produce the same disappointing results for 10 years while getting paid what he gets paid, without drawing criticism, you’re too far gone in your fantasy to smell the coffee.

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              • dawgman3000

                +1, spot on chili

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              • Exactly. Look at Les Miles at LSU. And he’s played in a tougher division and won something of note more recently than MR. I’ll give Richt credit for one thing in addition to his early years’ success: he has managed to develop a cultish following like no football coach I can remember.

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          • lakedawg

            Talking about a ignoramous calling a logical poster a clown, this so called fan is clueless.

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        • You know why he doesn’t walk away? Because he’s getting paid millions of dollars. He doesn’t deserve anything. If you are being paid to do a job then you have to deal with criticism when you make mistakes. Sheesh. You act like he’s not a multimillionaire and is coaching for free. Might be a nice guy but he’s not the saint you make him out to be. Hopefully you don’t run a business because if you held your employees to the standards or lack thereof that you hold your hero to you’d be out of business pretty fast.

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  25. doofusdawg

    Just as long as after we beat teck the line isn’t “we’re focusing on the bowl game”. Monday adgm and cmr will have their annual post season meeting. On Tuesday we need to either announce that cmr is being let go or we need to announce that “cmr is our head coach and we are proud of the team for fighting through adversity and injuries this year. We don’t anticipate any staff changes but you can’t be sure of that as everyone has to look out for their own individual opportunities. At this point we are looking toward finishing the semester and preparing for a bowl game which the kids richly deserve. Once again… cmr is and will be the head coach at the university of georgia and we are lucky to have him”.

    The fans, coaches and cmr deserve nothing more and surely nothing less.

    If adgm can’t make an announce a decision immediately then adgm should be fired. Keeping things in limbo for a week or two to see who might become available is bush league.

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  26. Sometime it’s comical to sit back and read the silly ass shit these apologists come up with. “These quotes are lies, made up by the AJC to stir up controversy where there is none.” Or in other words “remain calm! All is well! “

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    • Derek

      Are you decked all out in gold today or are you waiting for Saturday? We all appreciate your critiques of other’s fandom. Few of us are as committed to the cause as you are. Most of us silly apologists and losers want to win on Saturday. We could all learn from you the dedication it takes to want our players and coaches to suffer a loss to tech in order to usher in Coach X. You ARE the true fan and it’s no doubt “comical” to suffer those so called fans who want to beat tech. You show us the way and lead us all in a chorus of “ramblin’ wreck” from a true dawg fan like youself!

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    • Grafton

      Chilli, you truly are the shittiest Dawg “fan” I have ever come across. You are an embarrassment to the G and yourself.

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    • lakedawg

      Chili is nothing but a nerd troll. Sure he has his gold on and will be staring at his tv watching dawgs kick his gnats butt Saturday.

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      • Uglydawg

        He’s not a troll, but he is OCD and inflexable in his zeal to get rid of CMR. Sadly he is too quick to pull the insults trigger with those with differing opinions. Too bad. Some of the more seasoned posters, that actually have information to add (Derek) are insulted and then drawn into the fray.
        It got old a long time ago. The Senator threatened to shut ‘er down if this kind of stuff continued.
        Still, we should be careful about calling one another a “nerd troll” because that is grounds for nuclear war or worse in my opinion.

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    • They act like MR is coaching out of charity and not a multimillionaire many times over. If he gets his feelings hurt because some meanies don’t think he’s doing the best job then he’s free to quit and stop cashing those checks anytime. Hell. Scotchlover above actually said he “deserves better”. I’m guessing some of these people have never run a business.

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      • It’s disgusting. You can argue the points of criticism all you want, but you can’t argue that he should be above criticism. That’s just stupid. And that’s all they ever want to do. Instead of arguing the subject, they call into question your loyalty, judge your worth as a fan, as if anybody other than a die hard Georgia fan would stick around for this shitty season.

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  27. You know what’s awesome about our Mark Richt problem? Once we fire him, there will be 3-4 ADs hoping to Jesus that he’ll come coach their team.

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  28. 92 grad

    I think some of the angst and conflict aroused by the ajc article is that there is failure to blanket the situation in the right context. An executive board operates in the global sense. They may or may not be liked, but, they will “steer” university presidents. The board will absolutely position themselves as the ones who assume responsibility to provide McGarity and CMR guidance. Similar to the way we parent. You know, like when you see your child do something, you explain alternatives, then lie in wait and observe to see if the child has applied the concept and even assimilated the concept to an unrelated task. It’s the highest form or manipulation, but not the negative connotation.

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    • 92 grad

      The board does things like this:

      Mission statement, explore and implement concepts that foster graduates to experience relationship between the arts and athletics.

      That one sentence will require complete curriculum revisions from 1-12th grades. New teachers, new budgets, new capital priorities. It would quake the entire school.

      I will say this though, school board I was on did have to spend 1 meeting per year on employee firing/retiring, raises, initiate hiring process for new employee needs, budget proposals. Meetings like this though, the board at large traditionally allows dept. heads to state their recommendations and put to vote. I’d guess there is a sub committee that is in charge of football coaches, if so, these are the folks to talk to.

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