Still going

I gotta admit, this feels… weird.

I know, he’s getting paid and all.  But exactly what kind of sales job do you think he’s doing right now, even if his heart’s still in it?

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100 responses to “Still going

  1. Biggus Rickus

    Are we sure he’s gone? I know rumors abound and all, but it would make sense to keep him as the defensive coordinator if you’re Smart and that’s at all possible.

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    • These people are interviewing for the next job all the time.

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    • If Pruitt stays, it will be the clearest indication I can think of that Smart’s gotten his way in terms of program control. (Assuming he wants Pruitt, that is.)

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      • Who’s to say anything you read on the Dawgvent is accurate, but Dasher feels it would be a stunner if Kirby asked him to stay.

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        • Will (The Other One)

          Of course the ‘Vent’s accurate. That’s why we’re all discussing firing long-time UGA HC Andy “more and more it’s” McCollum. And hearing from former UGA DB Batman Carroll who was a UGA lock.

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          • Normaltown Mike

            my memories of the Vent ended around the Batman recruiting days too. Man was that annoying. Some clever symbol like <^O^>

            What insights were put forth by “Ditchwitch” and “Ghost” as I recall.

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      • Derek

        CKS has them by the balls. Might as well squeeze. I certainly would like to see CJP on the sidelines next fall. Best coach from a recruiting and performance standpoint we’ve had since who? I honestly cant think of a peer in my lifetime. Keep that guy. So he’s an asshole? We’re not asking him to be Miss Congeniality are we?

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        • Mayor

          Pruitt wants to win. That’s the reason why he doesn’t get along with some of the mediocre O coaches (read: Schotty) or waste of space Greg McGarity. Keep Pruitt. Get rid of Schotty and McGarity.

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        • 81Dog

          exactly right, Derek. McGarity seriously overestimated his bargaining position, and now Jimmy Sexton and Kirby are going to work him over like a two dollar hooker. If Kirby demands that GMG stop by Butts Mehre every morning at 8 to vacuum Kirby’s car, expect it to happen. I have no idea if KS wants Pruitt, or if Pruitt is 100% sane or polite, but the guy can recruit and coach. OK by me if we keep him. We’ve done a LOT worse.

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      • Or maybe McGarity or Smart is telling him there is still a chance if Muschamp somehow becomes USCe HC?

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        I said a few weeks back that CJP’s chances of returning were around 2%. Nothing I’ve heard since has caused me to change that figure.

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      • That’s a key to all this circus.

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      • ncdawg

        I, for one, am hoping Pruitt stays. The defense isn’t perfect but it’s heading in the right direction and positively in the right direction. Some continuity in some aspect of the team, especially the best functioning part would do wonders for Smart in his first year.

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        • Mayor

          Plus Pruitt runs the same schemes on D that Bama runs and that Smart presumably likes and will want to run in Athens.

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      • Gaskilldawg

        And he persuaded Pruitt to stay, something I have heard Pruitt did not want to do.

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      • reipar

        I see what you did there. Clever. Assuming he wants him caveat for the win!

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      • Mayor

        Senator, this has absolutely nothing to do with football. We just need it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypwcitHSEQo Grace Potter. Mmmmmmm, mmmmmm.

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  2. And maybe you were thinkin’
    That you thought you knew me well
    But no one ever knows the heart of anyone else
    I feel like Garbo in this late night Grande hotel
    Cause living alone is all I’ve ever done well

    Nanci Griffith – Late Night Grande Hotel Lyrics

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    • Athens Dog

      I’m pretty sure that the first time i’ve seen a Nanci Griffith quote on this blog Well done!

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    • Dog in Fla

      She’s still in Saigon waiting for a mission… getting softer. Every minute she stays in that room and puts the lotion on, she gets weaker, and every minute Jeremy squats in the bush, he gets stronger. Each time she looked around the walls moved in a little tighter…

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      You dang busted old Scallywag you…that’s good stuff, really.

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  3. This entire process has been a total cluster. Let’s hope next week is 20x better than this week has been.

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  4. Dog in Fla

    I’m having a Thomas Brown flashback to the land of ice and snow and winter thunder

    http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2015/1/8/7514615/paul-chryst-thomas-brown-wisconsin-coaching-staff

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  5. Will (The Other One)

    I’m wondering who he’s recruiting him too, given the “take over for DJ Durkin at Michigan” rumors.

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  6. Russ

    What message are they giving to the recruits? How can they look a kid in the eye and tell them to come to UGA? I guess to be a good recruiter you have to not let things like this bug you. Glad I’m just an office drone.

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    • PTC DAWG

      Georgia is still Georgia…lots to sell.

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    • The same way a Navy recruiter recruits to the Navy when they are getting out in a month. The institution is bigger than the individual.

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      • Gaskilldawg

        Agreed. He sells ” opportunity. ” He sells the chance to play with the other guys in the class and being a part of a class that wins big. He sells the graduation rate. He sells the quality of the coeds.

        While doing this he is selling his recruiting skills to his next employer.

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      • reipar

        You are aware the individual will never see his recruiter ever again even if the recruiter is in the navy another 20 years right? I mean you are comparing apples to battle ships.

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        • The point, dude. It’s staring you in the face.

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          • reipar

            You cannot be serious?!?

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            • Rocket Dawg

              Chili keeps on squirting

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            • Why could I not be serious? Is it really that difficult to grasp the concept that when you recruit for a school, you’re not selling a relationship with an individual? Sure, that’s part of it, but there are no guarantees in football that the same guy who recruits you will be there four years. These recruits know that. The only constant is that the institution doesn’t change. Georgia is still Georgia, and has a hell of a lot of merits that stand on their own, or have you never been? It’s a damn fine school, one of the best college towns in all of America and one of the premier programs in the most prestigious conference in the country. Absolutely none of those things will change with the coaching staff.

              I can’t believe I’m having to elaborate on this.

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              • ugafidelis

                I’m with you on this one.

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              • MLB2

                You are correct sir!

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              • reipar

                You are aware the vast majority of college football players go on to play for the people that recruit them right? No one goes on to have anything to do with the person that recruits them to the military. I mean come on man. You have to have more on the ball than this. The difference between military and college football recruiters is night and day. Just think about it for a second before you type. It is not even that hard.

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                • Now you’re just talking out of your ass.

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                • Amazing that he still does not get it. Give up chili.

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                • ugafidelis

                  “You’re aware that a vast majority…”

                  This kid was on the beach one day throwing all these little fish back in the water because they had been washed up on shore. A man walked up and told the boy to quit because there were too many and he’d never make a real difference. The boy grabbed another fish and slung it out in the water. Then he looked up at the man and said, “Made a difference to that one.”

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      • Dawgfan Will

        The problem with this analogy is that that Navy recruiter won’t then be going to recruit for the Air Force.

        It’s not just weird…it’s fucking bizarre.

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        • They absolutely could. Served with many people who had previously been in another branch.

          I don’t know why y’all can’t get this. The recruiter’s job is to sell the institution, not their own personal relationship.

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        • It completely blows my mind that this idea seems so hard. Pruitt sells UGA based on the merits of the school and history of program. Sgt. Hardass sells the Marines based on the merits of the branch and the history of the corps. Is there more to it than that? Yes, no shit, but the basic idea of selling an opportunity is the same.

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          • Dawgfan Will

            If you guys say so. I still have memories of Junior and Orgeron poaching the recruits they’d been selling on Tennessee for the last year to follow them to USC, but hey, I’m sure that wouldn’t happen in this case.

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  7. 3rdandGrantham

    Not sure, but I think a firm mea culpa would be appropriate from me to roughly 95% of the folks here. No, not for my continued excitement over the change of HC leadership at UGA that I’ve been wanting for quite a few years—that I know I’m not wrong about, and we’ll all be loving this move in short order as CMR’s tenure had long run its course.

    What I would like to apologize for however is my defense of McGarity as of late. I’ve read several articles today that basically implied that Smart has McGarity and the UGA AD totally over a barrel at this point, in which he can pretty much call all the shots. And why would that be the case, you might ask? Well, apparently McGarity, in all his genius, decided to ‘leak’ the news of Smart coming before the deal was done.

    This brilliant move suddenly gives Smart all the power in the world, as now the deal MUST get done or McGarity will be sitting there with egg all over his face, and with no coach. So naturally Smart is probably asking for x number of millions more for various support staff, facility improvements…hell he’s probably now even demanding total absurdities like, say, a $4000 margarita machine to be installed in the coaches lounge as well at this point (and I wouldn’t blame him).

    So with that, my apologies for defending ADGM; please continue to impugn him to no end…you’ll get no argument from me.

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    • 3&G, thanks for coming along. The guy has mishandled this whole thing and probably has now gotten himself fired during an episode where he thought he was doing the right thing.

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        Hey, I might come across as opinionated if not a bit arrogant on times here (I prefer confident), but I at least try to always admit when I’m wrong via a modicum of self-awareness. With that said, I was wrong.

        Mind you, IMO he still doesn’t deserve the utter vitriol he’s received…but I just can’t bring myself to defend the guy any longer.

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        • I think he deserves the same media treatment he enabled CMR to receive over the last 15 months. He should be raked over the coals just to see how it feels.

          When the security person went to that student to take away his Fire ADGM sign at the basketball game, that was the last opportunity to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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          • Mayor

            I bear McGarity no ill will. Just fire his ass before he permanently damages the program!!

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            • Bob

              I hold him plently of ill will. This was the biggest clusterf…. I have seen in years. He is classless. His handling of this has been an abortion. I don’t know if he leaked the word on Smart or not. Frankly I don’t care. He is a lying jerk and needs to go. Hell, he should have been fired for his other hires long before we reached this point.

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          • Debby Balcer

            +1,000,000

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      • Biggus Rickus

        He was terrible with the optics (which is not unimportant when optics are half your job), but its premature to say he’s mishandled the whole thing yet. Until the deal is officially done and the details come out, we won’t really know how he’s handled the tangibly important things.

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        • BR, as I’m sure you know, the firing and hiring of football and men’s basketball coaches are the most visible activities an AD performs. It’s a job where the less they are seen, the better. When they’re seen (or heard from), it’s usually not for some bit of good news. People see GM now and say, “You broke, so you own it.”

          If this hire fails or Smart backs away, GM won’t be the one to deliver the message because he’s going to be out. The big boosters behind this decision won’t be sticking up for him (they’re weasels, too, by the way … and I don’t care if I get Masters tickets). Most people who mishandle the optics typically don’t have the skill or self-awareness to handle the “tangibly important things.”

          Regardless of how it turns out, this episode and the complete screw-up of Gurley-gate will tarnish his reputation as a competent administrator, much less leader. I’ve said it before he needs some Grady people to help him learn PR and Terry people to help him with his leadership skills.

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          • Biggus Rickus

            I wasn’t giving him a pass, just saying that it’s premature to say he’s “mishandled this whole thing”. And yes, he’ll be fired if it doesn’t work. As he should be.

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            • Athens Townie

              Totally agree. Way too early to evaluate McG on this hire.

              Also — McG was damned if he did, damned if he didn’t on leaking the Smart news. Leaking the news was the only way to calm everyone down and reassure recruits while Smart wraps up at Alabama. If we knew nothing about Smart, everyone would be ripping him for playing pocket pool while everyone else is getting coaches.

              McG really needs Smart to win. Richt put McG in a terrible position by maintaining a frustrating level of average. That made the decision way harder and more controversial than it would have been if Richt put up another 6-7 season like 2010.

              Even though our schedule and Pruitt’s work were the only things that got us to 9 wins.

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        • Gaskilldawg

          I understand your reasonable point of view that it may result in everything working out fine.
          Another point of view is that even if Smart does not assert the leverage it was a mistake to even give him such leverage.

          Have a great weekend.

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          • Athens Townie

            If Smart uses the leverage to get what he needs from B-M, then it’s a win.

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            • Gaskilldawg

              Sure, but in negotiations you never let the other side get you behind the eight ball. It is like playing marbles in the inside lane of an expressway. Just because you don’t get hit doesn’t mean it is good strategy.

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              • Athens Townie

                But I’m talking about outcomes, not evaluating the negotiation strategy of B-M.

                If B-M is as bad at supporting football as a lot of us say, then fans should be rejoicing that they screwed up this negotiation. That way Kirby gets more of what he needs.

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    • Jared S.

      I know you aren’t supposed to judge people by looks, but the first time I ever saw Mr. McGarity’s face I pegged him as conniving and spineless. (The worst of all possible combinations of character traits!) Surely, I’m not the only one.

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      • No, you are not alone. And for God’s sake, if you are going to dye your hair jet black, don’t forget to dye your eyebrows as well. Somehow I think he reeks of mothballs.

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        I’m all for judging people by their looks and overall appearance. And anyone who says otherwise is lying.

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    • Well, apparently McGarity, in all his genius, decided to ‘leak’ the news of Smart coming before the deal was done.

      That’s because McGarity was getting creamed in the court of public sentiment.

      Whatever you think of him, you have to admit he’s a complete disaster when it comes to PR.

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    • Your brilliant ADGM to save his ass from much more criticism, embarrassment, and being in the burning seat himself just have to do it instead of awaiting the result of his search firm, LOL.

      Now, and I hope the Sabanization of Georgia will be total i.e. Kirby having the say more than ADGM in the football program.

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    • Dog in Fla

      “basically implied that Smart has McGarity and the UGA AD totally over a barrel”

      That can only mean one thing. Bring out the gimp

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    • Does Lowes carry maragarita machines?

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    • Walt

      If leaking Smart’s name to the press has that powerful an effect, then Jimmy Sexton might be the source of the leak. Just saying….

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      • No One Knows You're a Dawg

        We’ve got Sexton and Smart on one side, and McGarity and his braintrust on the other. Professionals against amateurs.

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    • Athens Townie

      3&G,

      If what you’re speculating is true, then McG’s mishandling would actually be a huge blessing in disguise. Smart should be getting his way and calling shots on how money is spent. If this is how he gets what he needs, so be it.

      Personally, I think McG would offer full support to Smart either way. Not just because Smart has negotiating leverage, but also because McG’s job is riding on the outcome of this hire.

      McG needs Smart to succeed.

      Richt forced McG to do something. But doing something divided the fanbase and turned even more people against McG. At this point, McG really needs this to go well.

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      • Scorpio Jones, III

        “McG needs Smart to succeed.” Hell, Townie, he ain’t the only danged one who needs that…I already been to Stubhub looking for tickets to the next national championship game…

        I liked Mark Richt and the image he projected for the university, but that boy is gone…I want the next one to just win, baby…PR will take care of its own self.

        If we lose the bowl game, Kirby will be 0-1 as far as I’m concerned, I don’t care what he is doing that day.

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        Oh absolutely…I’m personally thrilled with the latest developments. I’m simply talking from a competence point of view, in which I defended him (well, sorta….I gave him a C- grade overall) but after the latest developments, u shouldn’t have.

        But yea, duly noted; McGarity’s incompetence can only serve to help the program moving forward.

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    • lakedawg

      Seems everything he has leaked to certain individuals recently has come back to bite his butt.

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  8. hassan

    I think these guys are out selling the personal relationship. So regardless of where they end up, they’ll have a few of these kids that may follow.

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    • Dawgfan Will

      I think so, too. I mean, sure, they’re showing their recruiting skills for potential employers. But you know what those potential employers will love even more than recruiting skills? The recruits these guys can bring with them NOW.

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  9. Cousin Eddie

    What’s to say he isn’t headed to Wisc and just dropping by to see one of his future recruits?

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  10. Lakatos Intolerant

    Maybe I’m not up to date on the latest rumors but wouldn’t Pruitt-to-Alabama make much more sense than him staying, based on everything we’ve read and heard about various strained relationships? Mr. Process won’t put up with any extracurricular bullshit so it would seem an obvious match.

    And maybe I’m alone, but it would be refreshing if Smart won/wins the negotiations re: control, autonomy, financial support, etc. We’ve made a tough decision in firing Richt, now give the new man what he wants within reason. Would be a first step in moving beyond The Georgia Way.

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      I think its that “within reason” that could be a sticking point…coming from where Kirby has been for last few years, reason has a different meaning that most folks in Butts-Mehre only read about in The Economist and stuff.

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  11. Will Trane

    Hope you are right Senator.
    Pruitt is a very good cosch and recruiter.
    If Smart is in bound, Pruitt is the person who can transition the players and recruits.
    No doubt he works hard for his salary.

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  12. Ed Kilgore

    So I guess the big question here is whether the “Smart and Pruitt don’t get along” rumors have been overwrought or even bogus, and the real issue is “McGarity hates Pruitt for showing him up on the IPF” and perhaps other acts of insubordination. If the latter is the case, hell, yes, Smart should use his leverage over McGarity to overcome the AD’s petty issues. He’ll get over it.

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  13. Mike Cooley

    I do t see how Pruitt doesn’t remain on staff of Smart wants him to and he wants to stay. Smart holds all the cards. If McG doesn’t give him what he wants he can walk away and leave leave McEars all alone out in the cold. Absolutely nobody will want McG at UGA if this deal with Smart falls through. He’s gonna give Smart what he wants. Besides, with what we know about McEars, don’t we think we would be glad to pay one less buy out regardless of his feelings about Pruitt?

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  14. AusDawg85

    McGarity found his counter play today and that’s why the Smart negotiations have stalled…

    Boom called Herschel and offered to make him OC if they would both be hired by UGA. McGarity is seeing if Hines is also willing to come along.

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  15. Mike Cooley

    Well played.

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  16. Topdawg

    can somebody fill an out-of-the-loop dawg in on this supposed loud argument that landed Pruitt on the naughty list?

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  17. Ray Goff

    CJP has been nothing but a DGD since he got here – he wants to improve the product on the field. Kirby has been handed the keys to the Bulldog Nation. He can keep Pruitt if he wants. I used to like the comments on this blog but WTF guys, this negativity is making me think one of y’all stole my tractor!

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  18. Why would we NOT keep Pruitt if he wants to stay?? We just said 10 wins wasn’t good enough! The “next level” is full of assholes and cut throats. Again, it seems we want to win more but are clueless about how to do it or that we even have it in us.

    Or maybe we’ve foolishly convinced ourselves that it only takes a personnel change and not a mindset/approach change.

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