The Chaney hire

So, Kirby goes out and gets the guy who created the game plan that was responsible for contributing “Beyond Crompton” to the GTP Lexicon.  Small world, innit?

The move strikes me as a solid, if not spectacular, hire.  Chaney’s been around the block for a while and has done his share of coaching in the SEC wars.  His national reputation is good.  And he obviously fits the bill as what Smart is looking for in an OC and quarterbacks coach.

Chaney’s first big test is selling Jacob Eason on his future in Athens.  Fortunately, he’s got a credible story to tell.

New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees put up ridiculous numbers under Chaney at Purdue. From 1998-2000 Brees threw for 3,000 yards or more in all three seasons and never had fewer than 25 touchdown passes. Brees’ total for that three-year period was 11,560 yards and 90 touchdowns. Chaney would go on to coach Kyle Orton at Purdue and Tyler Bray at Tennessee. Orton, who retired last year after a 10-year NFL career, threw for 3,090 yards and 31 touchdowns for The Boilermakers in 2004. Bray would also have one huge year under Chaney — in 2012 where he threw for over 3,600 yards and 34 touchdowns.

We’ll see how it goes.

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  1. Puffdawg

    I KNEW this post was coming as soon as I read the resume haha!

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  2. Spelling of the last name notwithstanding, do you think Smart contacted him for help in identifying an OC and – after looking high and low – he nominated himself?

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  3. Bright Idea

    No doubt Chaney is not the young, hot shot glamour hire that will keep the grumbling down but he is solid. My only question is will we be able to keep him for more than a year, assuming that we will want to keep him next year at this time.

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  4. Rick

    In 8 years, the best ever finish in yards per play for a Chaney offense: 54th

    Schottenheimer 2015: 37th

    What a disaster.

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    • You were going to be critical regardless of who he hired. Laying the groundwork for your “we never should have fired Richt” posts 8 months from now.

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      • Rick

        Whatever makes you feel better.

        Impeccable OL hire.

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      • Gaskilldawg

        I am not critical of the hire. It is Smart’s ass on the line, noy yours. Smart has been in the profession for years and knows a lot of guys coaching on both sides of the ball. If Smart thinks he is a good hire then I am glad he is here. Chaney does have some good stuff on his resume.

        That said, Rick did post a fact (the yards per play comparison ) that is an interesting and meaningful data point. It should not be the sole data point but there is nothing wrong with posting that data.

        I more interesting and helpful reply would be to explain why that data point does not tell a story about how good an OC he is.

        Me, I am fine with the hire since Smart knows the pool of available OCs and deems him worthy. I know that is taking it on faith, but so what?

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        • Biggus Rickus

          I’m not going to fret over every hire. Until we see what happens on the field, why worry? Chaney seems like a solid hire. Nothing spectacular, but he’s done okay given the talent he was working with, a couple of top 20 offenses at Tennessee and Arkansas by S&P+, and otherwise fluctuations between the mid-30s and mid-60s.

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          • Biggus Rickus

            For comparison, Georgia finished 73rd according to S&P+ this year.

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          • Rick

            Good point. He does looks a good bit better by S&P+, which is probably a better stat.

            So I take back ‘disaster’. It’s just a straight up mediocre hire. My whole thing has been that every HC hire in the SEC this century that wasn’t a guy that already had a top 5 finish as head man on his resume has been worse than Richt. Literally every guy. Derek Dooley is a prime example, and we just hired his OC. Chaney’s finishes those years in S&P+ were 27, 54, 72 and 10.

            For a program with fans that wouldn’t shut up about Mike Bobo’s ‘incompetence’, those results don’t inspire confidence.

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            • Will (the other one)

              In his only 2 seasons at Arkansas (with Pittman coaching OL) his team topped 200 yds/g rushing, with is twice as many seasons Bobo/Richt managed over 14 seasons (2014 was the only year over 200 yds/g rushing). So the running game should be OK and we won’t hear anything as bad as Shoddy’s multiple “I should have called a better variety of run plays” crap.

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          • Gaskilldawg

            I don’t fret it, either. I believe that guys who coach for a living know more than me about their profession.

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        • Chaney is a proven OC. We could cherry pick a stat from a single year, but that’s not a fair representation. He’s been around doing his thing for a long time. Doubt he’d keep getting hired a an OC if he wasn’t any good.

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          • Rick

            Odd you’d say that. The only way to construct an argument that Chaney is a ‘proven’ OC is to cherry pick 2012 and ignore literally every other year in recent memory.

            Average ranking in total offense since 2009 (his first year in the SEC): 72nd.

            Simply astonishing that you were accusing us of a surfeit of optimism around here. You thought we were satisfied with mediocrity? You may have to make do with straight up awfulness.

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            • I’m sure you’re hoping for that. I have just one question for you. How many seasons has Chaney been an OC? And once you have the answer for that, tell me how many more you think he has to go before “proven ” is an accurate adjective. Then I want you to give me the name of someone who has been an OC for longer.

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              • Rick

                Hey, if you want to hire coaches based on years served rather than actual performance, then you just got yourself a real winner. If that’s the criteria, debate over, you win and I lose decisively.

                Enjoy the new OC!

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                • You didn’t answer the question.

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                • Rick

                  He has been an OC for many seasons, perhaps 30 for all I know. I consider an OC to be a ‘proven’ OC when he has been on the job for one day, because he can be proven to have held the title.

                  There you go. I think you and I agree that the best possible argument for Chaney is that he has occupied the same position that he will occupy in Athens for a considerable length of time. Enjoy the new OC!

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                • Okay, so you’re admittedly just being ridiculous because you’re still butthurt it’s Kirby making this hire and not Richt. Not surprising.

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                • Rick

                  Oh, shit, now it’s clear: “Butthurt”?

                  You’ve been an agent from StingTalk this entire time. I have to admit a begrudging respect.

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            • JTP

              He helped Purdue to a Rose Bowl.

              Purdue.

              Rose Bowl.

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          • lakedawg

            If Chaney is best thing to happen with OC’s, why can he not hold a job for more than 2-3 years at a time. Was always a flag to be interviewing applicants that could not hold job consistently

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            • First: no one is calling him the greatest OC ever. Second: he spent eight years at Purdue. He hasn’t been fired anywhere. Kind of flies in the face of your theory.

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            • Silver Creek Dawg

              Disagree. Depending on the industry, changing jobs every 2-3 years is not unusual. When I was an assistant/teaching professional in the golf business, changing positions was expected and encouraged; it was believed that you would learn from bosses who had different strengths.

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        • Olddawg55

          You could have stopped at “Smart knows what he wants in an OC” type comment. Yes, it is CKS team and he well knows what’s at stake with every decision he makes. Let’s all sit back and see how it all plays out…little else we can do, really.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      Which 8 years? Because Tennessee was 19th in 2012.

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    • Turd Ferguson

      Isn’t there a Miami Hurricanes blog for you to be commenting on now?

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    • 54th with a hell of a lot less talent other than QB’s. Alot of his time was at Purdue which has not had a good team in like forever. Schotty 37th in one year is not bad considering the QB play and Chubb’s injury.

      So Rick are you wanting schotty retained? Do you want Smart to fail just so you can come back and say I told you so?

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      • JonDawg

        I’m sure he does not, as that would make him a worthless Dawn fan, such as yourself, and the several other trouble makers on here. Troll is a better word, now that I think of it..

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    • Hogbody Spradlin

      Rick, can you pull his points per game and total yard data? Pardon me arguing. Just want to see a coupla other stats.

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    • lakedawg

      You have a list and start at top and work way down. Can bet that he was not , but how far down did he gap.

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  5. Tronan

    If Chaney could help Tyler Bray look good, then he might be able to help Lambert look, uh, maybe somewhat cromulent. A guy can always dream, can’t he?

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  6. collegepark1878

    I am calming down. This could be good or at least OK.

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  7. Any one is an improvement over schotty.

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  8. Debby Balcer

    Hopefully this is a good hire. I would hate for Kirby to start off on the wrong foot.

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  9. I think it’s a great hire. Philosophically Chaney is exactly what I was hoping for. He’s got a solid track record, making him a smart choice, not a risky one. He may not be a flashy up and comer, but Kirby knows what he does, and wanted him. Good enough for me.

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    • truck

      Ed Zachary. We’ve already got a “young, up & coming” head coach. So what if an older more established OC is hired? Coaches should be hired because they can perform, not to provide fodder for sports writers.

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    • JTP

      Hell, it’s the offseason. Right now, I like it just because Rick doesn’t.

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  10. Bill Glenn

    I think this is a great hire. It says “stability.” We don’t need spectacular. We need competent and experienced. He probably missed his head coaching window, and might stick around if he’s successful. You can turn over the offense to him and feel good about it.

    Great move.

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  11. Normaltown Mike

    Interesting. Reminds me of CMR hiring BVG based on how well he matched wits against him.

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    • truck

      Same thing I thought. DCs know who’s using sound strategy and who’s scheming around personnel deficiencies. His experience in multiple systems is also a plus.

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  12. TMC DAWG

    Mabey he is good enough to keep Eason.

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  13. TMC DAWG

    By the way, any one paying attention to the HS Championships? High School ball has come along way in the past 15to20 yrs.

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  14. JG Shellnutt

    Didn’t I read somewhere that he took Arkansas from something like the 107th to the 57th ranked offense in one year? That sounds pretty good.

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  15. merk

    This goes back to Smart wanting a staff that is not going to leave him high and dry in 1-2 years. He knows he has offensive talent, especially at RB, at UGA. Why go out and try to find some spread guy, who will not be able to use the current players that well? If our O-line, QB, and WR play improve, even just a little, we will be good. I really don’t give a crap who the OC is, as long as he is not calling plays that do not utilize our skill players.

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  16. Cosmic Dawg

    Well, he does have this on his resume:

    He’s coached mostly in college since 1985 except for three seasons with the St. Louis Rams from 2006-08

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  17. Tlkdawg

    This, from 247sports, makes me happy.

    Chaney has made good use of his tight ends as an offensive coordinator — especially later in his career. This season at Pittsburgh his tight ends combined to catch 33 passes for 563 yards and nine touchdowns.

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    • Rick

      Recall that Schottenheimer was famous for this as well, and that comments just like yours were prevalent at the time (I might have joined in as well).

      Unfortunately, as much as love to see those chains move using a TE with soft hands, if they aren’t named ‘Gronkowski’ and are generating a lot of your passing game it’s often a sign that your passing game isn’t doing so hot.

      Check out the top non-Gronk TEs in the NFL right now: Reed at Washington, Barnidge at Cleveland, Olson at Carolina, Kelce at Kansas City.

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      • Comparing Chaney with Schottenheimer is stupid. SCHOTTY had never coached in college and was mediocre in the NFL, owing his job to his name. Chaney is career college guy who doesn’t have a famous daddy that got him where he is.

        FTR there were A LOT of us, self included, who called the Schottenheimer hire crap. It was only the Richtites who called it a good hire. Most people saw it for what it was. This isn’t the same thing at all, in fact it’s about the opposite of what Richt did hiring Schotty.

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        • Schotty….mediocre college QB…..mediocre NFL OC…..mediocre college OC and the mediocre college OC is giving him a tremendous break on words.

          Chaney is a good safe and experienced hire by Smart. Bring in a coach who has been there for a long time and give him the talent in the State of Georgia and nothing but good things will happen. He has shown through out his career that he can adjust to his players strengths and minimize their weaknesses. That is what coaching is all about.

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          • Exactly. He’s proven he can do the job with many different groups of personnel, adjust to what he has and make it work. I don’t know why people are upset. At worst he’s a safe hire. At best, he could really shine with our talent. Given I expect us to be a good defensive team under Kirby, he may be just what we need.

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            • Along with the Pittman hire it just makes more sense. Sherrer as DC if it happens another good and safe hire/promotion. Frees up a slot for what Smart said is lacking……special teams coach. It is all falling into place and they have until August to make it jell.

              The shoe is finally on the other foot and the Richtolytes are not happy and it is a shame that some still wish for failure just to say I told you so.

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              • JonDawg

                Wow, all the low-budget motels booked up for the weekend? Take your sloppy love-fest for each other someplace else, you’re gonna stain the carpet

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        • lakedawg

          Hey, squirts do not know many of dawg fans thinking Schotty was best we could do. Just like this hire is underwhelming we are where e are here, Kirby could not get anyone better, so here we are I

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        • Gaskilldawg

          Jeeze Louise. You have a great argument available. Chaney must have talent if head coaches, whose million dollar jobs depends upon the coordinators’ production, keep hiring him. He coordinated Purdue to offensive production to levels it has not reached since. Smart has been around long enough to evaluate who has schemed well against him.
          Those are great arguments. No need to resort to the “Richtite” shit.
          You can win this debate on the evidence.

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  18. blands

    Blands’ Pithy Wisdom, (Lost count of weeks):

    I’m just a fan that knows nothing about football, but both hires still excite me. Go Dawgs!

    There you have it everyone. I have given my blessing.

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  19. Some cannot wait for Kirby to fail. They will not take their Richt Ford Truck posters down yet. Damn, at least wait until he loses a game folks. Lol

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    • PIle in them Fords and make a trip to South Beach if they ain’t happy. After all the U has a d00d dressed up as a seagull for a mascot how can you beat that……lol

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    • Biggus Rickus

      As far as I can tell, it’s pretty much just Rick beating that drum. I’m sure others will jump on board if Smart has the normal first year issues.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      Why would any fan hope UGA loses because it would increase the chances of a coach getting fired and why would any UGA fan hope UGA loses so he or she can say “I told you so?”
      If one is implausible then so is the other.

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      • lakedawg

        Chili only one I have seen that mentioned doing that, hi man crush was to point of being scary.

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        • JonDawg

          Something chili-stain did numerous times. I love CMR, and what he did for UGA, and I still care about him. Doesn’t mean that I’ll stop going to the games, and cheering on my Dawgs, hopefully to a SEC champ game berth next year. Go Kirby, and Go Dawgs. However, ADGM and chili. . Go fuck yourselves.

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          • Gaskilldawg

            Exactly. I would still support my Alma Mater and hope for 15-0 seasons regardless of who th ed head coach is, even if it someone chosen from a Getthepicture lottery.
            Caveat. If we hired Urban Meyer I would stop buying tickets and going to the games but I would not want us to lose.

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  20. hassan

    Admittedly a little underwhelmed by this hire. However, he definitely runs the type of offense I was hoping for. Time will tell if he can have success at Georgia. It seems like some up and down years in the past for Chaney. Here’s hoping we caught him on the upswing on the pendulum.

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  21. HerschelTalker

    I think the OL hire was a home run but the OC hire was a total disaster. It wouldn’t surprise me if Bobo is back in Athens in 4 years working the sidelines as our HC. This OC hire could prove to be that bad for Kirby. That being said, in his press conference Kirby seemed pretty open to cutting bait quickly if things aren’t working from a coaching perspective so if Chaney sucks I’m sure he’ll be gone in a year or two anyway.

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  22. DawgFaithful

    Instantly thought of “Beyond Crompton” when I heard about this hire…

    Good stuff. It’s why i come here

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  23. A10Penny

    I wonder how long it took for Urban and the OBC to stop laughing

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  24. rchris

    This hire is Chantastic!

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  25. W Cobb Dawg

    WTF?! Al Borges wasn’t available?

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