“Collaborative replay” is a simple concept.

Or so Mr. Conventional Wisdom assures us.

Instead of having one person in a booth make all of the decisions on replay in a particular game, those plays will instead be reviewed collectively by a number of officials in a command center. Those officials, including the one in the stadium, will look at the play together and come to a consensus on whether to overturn the call on the field.

The thinking: When it comes to these kinds of pressure-filled calls, the more eyes the better.

Keep in mind when it comes to replay needing to override a mistake, they had eight sets of eyes collaborating on the field who got it wrong in the first place.

The flip side to Barnhart’s “the more, the merrier” assertion is too many cooks spoiling the broth.

Yes, this potentially could be an improvement.  But it’s also got the potential to be little more than another layer of protection for bad officiating.

You really want to start fixing things, it begins with better hiring, training and retention practices.  A league that let Penn Wagers operate unchecked for years isn’t likely to find a quick fix with three or four replay officials collaborating.

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36 responses to ““Collaborative replay” is a simple concept.

  1. WarD Eagle

    A few thoughts prefaced with, I’m okay if we do away w/ replay.

    There aren’t always eight sets of eyes on replay, probably more like two.

    As much as we like to call out Mr. Wagers, et al, it might very well be true that he does rank with the best of the best. We’re all human, and we’re prone to repeating similar mistakes & prejudices.

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    • WarD Eagle

      Meant to also say, I’m not sold on additional eyes bringing any benefit to the fans. It’s only going to take that much longer to resolve replays.

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      • Russ

        You lost me with “best of the best” when referring to Wagers. He was truly the worst.

        If they can’t get replay right, then they might as well get rid of it. Too many times last year, there were plays where the TV replay and even the announcers said it’s “A” and then the replay booth comes back with “B”. It’s plays like that that make me wonder why even bother? Just accept that the refs are human, going to make mistakes, and live with it.

        Oh, and more people in the replay booth will only result in longer delays. No way this is an improvement.

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        • Yea but longer delays means more time for commercials!

          No worries tho, they will change the rules to reduce playing time in order to shorten the broadcast length (but not the commercial break length)

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        • Macallanlover

          Easy to see why an Aubie would not see the problem with Wagers, it was against them the officials totally blew a fumble recovery call against UGA then arsehole Wagers came over and threw 15 yard flag on Richt (of ll people) because of what he said. It may not be how good Wagers is, it is about is lack of professionalism and out and out cheating after the 2007 FU game in JAX. He should be expelled from officiating at any level. I can live with the blown calls made in error, it is the outright cheating that cannot be tolerated. Keep your emotions in check.

          As for replay, if the officials doing the review are not affiliated with any conference, I am good with it being in the booth or a spot further away. The on field, and off field officials should not have the same boss, or know each other.

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          • 69Dawg

            The real icing on the cake of Penn’s bad calls against us was his complete disregards of the rules in the UT game where he called holding on the Vols in the endzone on Mo Mass but failed to give us a first down. His cover after the game and from the then head of officials Redding was that they were unsure if Mo Mass was an eligible receiver. That gentlemen is covering you a$$ SEC style.

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  2. SEC officiating — almost as corrupt as FIFA

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    • Hopefully, whatever was done to turn the SEC Officials against will have departed with Richt. I think a lot of SEC officials held it against us that we helped to get that jerk Wagers canned.

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      • He retired–didn’t he? Also–even the worst ref should be able to at least appear to be impartial. Wagers never even tried. It was blatant–and the fact that the SEC let him get away with it for so long remains a problem.

        I think that if a coach is asked if a referee sucked–he should be able to say yes–and expound on why. The refs can have an enormous impact on the game–and when they do, a coach should not be fined or punished in any way for calling them out. If you take the game out of the hands of the players–you should have to answer for it. And the coach is the right person to question a ref by name…and in public. Protecting the referees and their shitty calls is an awful idea–and gives the referee zero incentive to improve.

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        • Russ

          One of my favorite stories along these lines comes from Hugh Durham. He had been recently fined for complaining about the refs, and sure enough the next game, there were bad calls that affected the game. After the game, reporters asked him about it. In his raspy high voice, he said “I can’t comment on the officiating but the guy sitting behind me said it was the worst he’d ever seen.” He got fined again, but it was worth it.

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  3. Nate Dawg

    Uggh…longer games with longer breaks in the action…just so we can further screw up what is and isn’t a catch (boy, the NFL’s got that one nailed down, a? Can’t wait for college to get that bad…) and/or just so we can screw over Georgia a little more with bad calls.
    Again, as Krusty the Clown would say…”uggh huh ha…”

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    • Macallanlover

      Actually, officiating is the only thing I envy about the NFL game. Those guys are head and heels better than any conferences’ officials in college. Make some mistakes? Of course, but light years better, especially in the area of pass interference. Very consistent in the few NFL games I watch.

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  4. Walt

    Just get Mike Pereira to make all the calls. The dude is never wrong.

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  5. sUGArdaddy

    I really believe the answer here is quite simple: accountability. And accountability comes in the form of the media these days.

    We need full time officials whose sole job is to go to these games, study the game, study the mistakes, get better and improve. That’s very difficult to do if you’re selling insurance during the week. They could commit time to fitness and endurance as well. We’ve got $4 million coaches, QBs with million dollar arms and RBs with million dollar knees and we’re letting guys who make a couple thousand a game determine too much. We also paid near $100 to watch it live and and networks paid millions to broadcast it. The only thing we’re not investing in is officials. And you get what you pay for.
    Part of this full-time obligation should include a post-game press conference and Steve Shaw should have a weekly press conference to talk about the week that was and the week coming up, just like the head coaches. Transparency is all people want. I want to see how Penn Wagers reacts when a reporter asks him about how it seems like he has it out for Mark Richt (because that reaction will tell everything). People can tell when a guy seems genuine. And people want explanations. “Well, from my angle it looked like he grabbed the receiver. Obviously, replay showed he didn’t touch him, so I missed that P.I. call.” Every normal college football fan can live with that. What we can’t live with is secrecy and denial.

    Coaches have to own up to bone head calls. Players have to own up to bone head plays. Commissioners have to own up to bone head policies. But not officials.

    Can you think of any area in the business world that has less public accountability than officiating?

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  6. Hogbody Spradlin

    “[T]hey had eight sets of eyes collaborating on the field who got it wrong in the first place.”

    Respectfully beg to differ. Each zebra on the field is supposed to have their eyes a certain place; none of them cover everything.

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  7. The two places where I would like to see a booth official make calls are

    1). RPO where the lineman is more than 3 yards down field. It should be easy with computer generated LOS and the 3 yard line drawn on their set. and

    2). Blatant personnel fouls like that hit on Aaron Murray in the SECc and a review on Personnel foul penalties that can catch the first person scenario. I have always hated the second person gets called mantra that we have seen throughout our lives watching football. How many times does the instigator get away with his personal foul, but the play by play guys call him on it? A replay official could yang that to a halt.

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    • 69Dawg

      Don’t forget the horrible call in the ACC Championship game on the onside kick. Everybody but the officials knew that was wrong but “it was not reviewable”, why the hell not.

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  8. TnDawg

    Right on the money senator! “another layer of protection for bad officiating.” Now the games will last four hours with additional eyes on the monitors. Broadcasters are going to love this.

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  9. Semper Fi Dawg

    let the announcers do it. they always get it right and they are nonpartisan as well….

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    • sUGArdaddy

      I sense your sarcasm (I think), but I’ll tell you this: Herbie, Danielson and Blackledge sure get a lot more of them right than the refs do. And, I believe those guys see themselves of stewards of the game. Not sure about the officials.

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    • Cousin Eddie

      My thought all along was just let ESPN make the calls, they do in the end anyway.

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  10. 69Dawg

    The official crews are lead by the referee, this needs to change. The crew needs to either be lead by the review official or the review official needs to be totally independent of the crew. There is no bigger good ole boys network than a SEC crew and nobody crosses the crew chief referee. I have never seen a flag thrown by a referee reversed by the replay guy. It’s not going to happen. We have the officials wired to talk to each other so why not the replay guy. Now he buzz down to stop play, why not give him direct communication with at least the referee? He should be given the power to overrule any bad call, spot, anything the officials do. If they miss one he should call it. If they call one wrong he should tell the referee to wave it off. That would not slow the game down and it might just save the SEC some embarrassment.

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  11. Scorpio Jones, III

    That “command center” thingy….that’s like the one they had for Challenger, right?

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  12. 92 grad

    The larger concern seems to be ignored, these officials need to be trained/drilled and compensated at a level more appropriate to the impact that they have on the conference games. Everything else is lip service.

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