Yeah, I get the glass house admonition, but this AP article is too good to pass up.
Alabama politics are at a low point even by Alabama standards: In a state that trails the nation in many areas, three top elected officials are embroiled in scandal or facing removal from office while a former governor serves time in federal prison on a corruption conviction…
“I never recall when the top leaders of all three branches of government were simultaneously accused of improper behavior,” Bill Stewart, a retired political scientist from the University of Alabama, said Saturday…
Among the nation’s poorest states, Alabama is troubled by problem areas including physical and mental health; comparatively low high school graduation rates; and too many occupational deaths, according to a report by the United Health Foundation. It consistently ranks high in college football – the University of Alabama is the reigning national champion – while struggling in so many other ways.
What percentage of the local population do you figure is okay with that trade off?
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Roy Moore is a douche bag of epic proportions.
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Moore should be given a raise.
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Good point. Give him a raise because he defies laws he doesn’t like and which cost taxpayers $100,000s.
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He defies laws which have been passed by a Supreme court that has lost its mind and has decided opinion is now the law of the land. It saddens me to no end to see what this once great country is becoming. Within ten years, christians will be jailed for teaching the bible within their own congregations. It will be much sooner if Hillary is elected. It is already happening in European countries and in Canada. The reason Judge Moore has taken a stand is because the Supreme court now consistently oversteps its directive and creates laws for the land. Everyone bitches and moans whenever a christian takes a moral stand, but never a peep from the left when their religious rights are stomped out like the last embers of a campfire.
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Relax, son. Nobody’s going to jail.
As a private citizen, Moore is free to criticize the ruling, lobby against it, etc. As the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, he took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not just the parts he likes. If he can’t do that, he’s unfit for the office he holds and should step down.
And before you go on about the US Supreme Court losing its mind and making rulings you don’t like as justification for Moore’s action, ask yourself how much you’d like it if state courts from liberal jurisdictions did the same thing Moore did about gay marriage.
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You seriously don’t see the humor in your last statement? That is exactly what the courts have done despite EVERY state that has brought it to a vote, voting against it. Including California on three occasions. You really just strengthened my point and justified the reason behind Judge Moores decision to take a stand. And yes, if the various bakers currently being sued don’t pay up, they actually do face possible jail time. Tell the Kentucky court clerk that no one is facing any
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Jail time
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Actually TLK I am thinking you might be better off living in the middle east in a muslim country – they love that stuff. You can scream and stone people to death and all kinds of things that obviously appeal to you.
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Do you know what the Supremacy Clause is? Hint: it has nothing to do with the voters.
The Kentucky clerk wasn’t going to jail because of her beliefs, but because she was defying a court order. Had she resigned her post, she would have been free to pursue her religious beliefs as she saw fit.
Constitutional conservative is an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp.
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The supremacy clause does not give the court the jurisdiction to write and create laws. The Kentucky clerk took her position in a world in which gay marriage was not the law of the land. This was changed by a supreme court that now creates laws that the country must live by. NOT the job they were appointed to do. Any assistant clerk in that office was free to grant the license, but the judge in the case would have none of that. It was her or nothing. Even though this clearly infringed on her freedom of religion. Our court is now made up of five social justice warriors with the clear agenda of changing the fundamental laws of the land. You want an accurate oxymoron, how about constitutional liberal.
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The Supremacy Clause is broadly written. Judicial review has been settled law since Marbury v. Madison. To suggest that your Constitutional interpretation is correct would lead to conceding that the Southern states were correct in their resistance to Brown v. Board of Education, that Virginia officials would have been justified in refusing to accept the Loving decision by continuing to prohibit bi-racial marriages, the District of Columbia could have continued to enforce its weapons ban after Heller, etc. Is that really where you want to go? If so, I give you credit for intellectual consistency.
You have misstated the facts surrounding Kim Davis’ incarceration. She was found in contempt of court because she would not let anyone in her office issue marriage licenses to gay couples. It was only after she was jailed that her staff began issuing those licenses. After she was released, she agreed not to interfere and took steps to have her name not appear on the licenses. As far as I know, she is still the clerk, her office is issuing licenses and she has not abandoned her religious convictions. Oh, and she’s not in jail, either.
As I said before, public officials take an oath to support the Constitution in its entirety, not just the parts they like. If an official is unable to comply, the honorable thing to do is step down from office. If he or she can’t act honorably, there are consequences.
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“As I said before, public officials take an oath to support the Constitution in its entirety, not just the parts they like. If an official is unable to comply, the honorable thing to do is step down from office. If he or she can’t act honorably, there are consequences.”
Exactly my point! Public officials do take an oath to support the constitution in its entirety, not just the parts that five judges deem to be personally against their liking, something they can and do change on a whim. Kim Davis’ attornies wanted to have her name removed from the certificates that were issued to gay couples, which the judge refused. This created the contempt of court situation, despite the fact that they were currently appealing the original decision not to issue the licenses. The judge was completely overstepping his authority simply to make a political point, and he knew it. That is why her name was allowed to be removed and the whole thing died fairly quietly. My original post concerned the unprecedented attack on christianity in this country. It is the only religion under attack in America and that attack has become both popular and celebrated. You may recall several years ago, the many clerks in our country issuing gay marriage licenses despite the law at the time not allowing it. There was no contempt of court, no jail time, and nothing but praise from the media and the oval office. We have become a country with two distinct set of laws, based not on the constitution, but on the ever changing “feelings” of those with the power to enforce them. The saddest part of all, to me personally, is that the very faith upon which our country was founded is the same one that is so vilified by those to which this country has given so much opportunity.
By the way, thanks for taking the time to respond
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Evidently the Sixth Circuit didn’t, as it didn’t grant Davis’ appeal.
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Bwah, bwah, bwah…. I dont give a *&^&$ whether that idiot judge agrees with it or not. Fact is Supreme Court is the final stop. Either implement the law or get the hell out of office.
There is a reason the bible is not the law of the land…..
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Every Alabama fan that didn’t attend college is fine with the trade off.
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That’s about 98 percent.
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Why not the ones who attended college too?
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Bread and circuses. McDonald’s and Bama football. Keeping the ignorant masses fat and happy.
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110%?
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Ther is only one thing important in that backward state.
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Hmm. I’m a UGA grad born and raised in Georgia. Love in Alabama now and can trek you both of the states are backwards. Your pot is pretty darn black.
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I gather your pot is rather potent.
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Oh come on! Everyone knows no matter where you live, the next state over sucks worse than yours.
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Georgia is “backwards”………hey genius our roads are in great shape and one can find a job here(if you want too)
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Is it a “trade-off”?
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No. Government doesn’t help the poor, physically unfit, or mentally ill anyway. It just steals money and pretends to, while driving the poor further down. So no, the phrase “trade off” is rather silly. As if the gubment would actually be solving all these problems if not for corrupting college football. Durp.
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And the Bammers say “Got 16?”
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That “16” is an absolute joke. If we claimed every national title we were awarded by some obscure poll, I believe we would 7 or 8 ourselves. They have a great football tradition, but no way would I trade Georgia’s economy for Alabama’s college football.
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Exactly – if Moe, Larry and Curly call Bama champs, not only do they count it…. they count it 3 times !
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Nothing more thrilling than pointing out the short comings of others.
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+1
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This kind of “news clip” is like kryptonite to the University Board or Regents. They’d commit mass suicide if football was as much of an outlier in Georgia as it is over there.
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War Eagle!
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The federal govt. is more corrupt and dysfunctional than any state govt.
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no i think it’s pretty even
stakes are a little higher with fed gov
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Seems like a dog bites man story. Wonder why AP decides to disparage Alabama now? Any ideas? Bueller Bueller
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Attention as the AP needs some. And since Bama has a National following, it’s as you said. The story isn’t news, it’s click bait.
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As an Bama resident, football rules. Nothing else counts.
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Ilinois is more corrupt and without good football.
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Good point Barney
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The plague of the South has ever been its Dixiecrats. That was true when I was in high school in rural Georgia a half century ago. They were all Democrats then (except for Strom Thurmond, who switched parties in 1964), but it is no less true today when they are all Republicans.
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You can change the stripes, but the animal inside remains the same.
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Why don’t we just agree that politicians of both parties are asshats and self servings………..
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No argument on that. Throw in greed with your other choices
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