Thursday morning buffet

Fire up the chafing dishes!

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72 responses to “Thursday morning buffet

  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    “Big 12 Swimsuit Competition”? That’s very polite. I was thinking something crude.

  2. dawgxian

    Senator, you were description of Holtz is misleading and beneath you. His comments were about ILLEGAL immigrants. He had this to say about the rest- “Holtz added that his grandparents learned English after immigrating to the U.S. from Ukraine, and insisted his family learn it as well.” BTW- my wife’s family also immigrated here and her grandparents made their kids learn English also.

    • Jared S.

      Holtz may have used the qualifier “illegal” but when he said he didn’t want to cheer for immigrants’ soccer teams that was a tone that was obviously anti-immigrant in general and not specific to just illegal immigrants. No one can deny that Holtz clearly expressed a desire to see all immigrants – illegal or otherwise – practically abandon their culture and become indistinguishable from what he would probably term “real” Americans.

      Which makes him an old out-of-touch xenophobic douche.

      • Ben

        Pardon me if I don’t give the benefit of the doubt to a pro-life codger who’s endorsed Donald Trump and walks around with a bag of whiskey to cope with his decisions.

        • Riverdawg

          It’s a crown royal bag, but the contents are pipes and tobacco. Not a fan of his either, but since I know firsthand that’s what in there, thought I’d better share.

          • Ben

            Fair enough; seems like he could’ve opted for another way of transporting his goods, right?

            • Riverdawg

              No doubt.

              He also has quite the bumper sticker on his car, I wonder if Google knows about that one…

          • Argondawg

            The guy is 80. Stick the microphone in the face of a dude that is 80 and he is gonna tell you what he thinks and it usually wont be pretty but at least it is not bullshit. He is a hall of Fame coach. People will remember his name long after the rest of us are dead. I think he is off his rocker but he can say what ever the hell he wants to and you can be offended. The first amendment is awesome for all of us.

      • JCDAWG83

        Are you able to use your ability to determine what people actually mean as opposed to what they say to make lots of money? I would think a super power like that could really be useful in business negotiations.

        What a ridiculous idea that someone immigrating to a country should learn the language of that country. Maybe you should try moving to France, Japan, China or Mexico and insist the govt there translate all documents into English and have teachers in all schools who will teach your kids in English. Let us know how that works out for you.

        • Herschel Krustofsky

          FYI – 2 of the 4 countries you mention do not have official languages (just like the US).

          Also, if English speaking people moved to those countries in the same types of numbers that Spanish speakers have moved here, you better believe that English would take on a much larger role in their societies.

          • JCDAWG83

            I didn’t realize 4-5% was such a dramatic number. Before you tout the 17% Hispanic population number, most of them are US born and speak English. Only about a quarter of them don’t speak English and those are primarily the illegal ones. While the countries may not have an official language, they do not go overboard to accommodate immigrants who do not bother to learn the language. I have no problem with someone not learning English in this country. My issue is that person expecting US taxpayers to pay for the govt to provide translated documents, bilingual teachers, etc for that person.

            Speaking of illegal immigrants, why don’t you try and enter Mexico or China illegally and see if you are coddled and offered the benefits illegal immigrants get from the US. I imagine, you would not enjoy the cell they put you in before they deported you.

            • Herschel Krustofsky

              4-5% and 17% are much more dramatic numbers than English speakers (or people of English speaking background) in the countries you mentioned. And I said nothing about illegals.

      • I'm right, you're wrong

        Ahhh Jared. Typical Liberal. Someone has a different opinion and they are a “xenophobic douche”. I thought y’all were open minded and inclusive; tolerant of all. What happened? Did Holtz violate your safe space where you can only tolerate hearing from people who think and speak just like you? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

        • Herschel Krustofsky

          Ah yes, the ol’ “you’re intolerant of my intolerance, so you’re just as bad!” argument. Gotta love it.

          • im right, you're wrong

            I never claimed to be tolerant. I am totally intolerant of liberal ass-clowns that preach tolerance to everyone else but cry foul when someone violates their safe space. That’s the difference; I don’t like you and I’m honest about it.

            • Herschel Krustofsky

              Where in the world did you get the idea that I thought you claimed to be tolerant?

              Way to sidestep and dance your way to an incoherent response.

            • stoopnagle

              You do realize that “xenophobia” is bad, right?

        • Jared S.

          Yeah. I voted for Bush, McCain and Romney and every Republican candidate for governor since moving to Maryland 17 years ago. I’m your “typical liberal.”

          As far as safe spaces go, if I’m not allowed to sound pissed off because ignorant asses like Holtz short-circuit Conservative’s attempts to actually further their cause, then it sounds like I’ve violated your safe space.

          Let’s take a look a full excerpt from Holtz’s remarks:

          “I don’t want to become you…I don’t want to speak your language, I don’t want to celebrate your holidays, I sure as hell don’t want to cheer for your soccer team!”

          What’s funny (and stupid) about his remarks is that being American doesn’t have anything to do with speaking English, celebrating certain holidays or loving certain sports. Reminder (and surprise!): The United States of America has no official language. In addition, being “American” is about loving American principles of individual liberty as articulated in the Bill of Rights, not loving a certain language, religion, food, sport, etc. And being American, incidentally, includes the Freedom of Speech which includes Holtz’s right to say douche-ish things and my right to call him out for being a douche.

          • Im right, you're wrong

            The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 , a.k.a., the McCarran-Walter Act allows for the “Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by the president ” . Whenever the president finds that the entry of aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non immigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

            Note that McCarran and Walter were Democrats and this act was utilized by Jimmy Carter, no less, in 1979 to keep Iraniansout of the United States … but he actually did more. He made all Iranian students already here check in, and then he deported a bunch. Seven thousand were found in violation of their visas, 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the United States in 1979. You won’t hear a word about this from the liberal media, propaganda machine.

            It is of note that the act requires that an applicant for immigration ”must be of good moral character ” and “attached to the principles of the Constitution.”

            Since the Quran forbids Muslims to swear allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, technically, all Muslims should be refused immigration.

            • Jared S.

              I guess since Jesus in Matthew 5 forbids us from swearing oaths then Christians should be refused as well?

              • Keep it real...

                You are mi-stating that verse. Early Christians did not read Jesus’ words as prohibiting all oaths. Paul took vows during his ministry (Acts 18:18), and John records his vision of an angel who swore an oath (Rev. 10:5–6).

                • Jared S.

                  My point wasn’t that I believed Jesus frowns upon new US Citizens pledging allegiance to the Constitution, but rather to point out how silly it is to quote a portion of the Bible or Koran to try to somehow prove that Christians should somehow be technically disqualified from US Citizenship because some bureaucrat decides their religious writings prohibit them fulfilling a citizenship oath.

            • DawgWalker07

              I love how this has absolutely nothing to do with what Jared S. said. But carry on with the arguments you concoct when you’re stuck in traffic and listening to talk radio as to why the United States should ban an entire group of people from entering the country. That’s really going to happen.

    • simpl_matter

      From every source I can find, he didn’t say illegal, he just said immigrants. Lou painths wif a very broad brusch. Always has.

    • The Dawg abides

      Derek must be on vacation. He would have already deemed half the people in this thread “fucking idiots”.

  3. I'm right, you're wrong

    Are you that fucking daft? You just can’t help your liberal self can you? You really don’t understand the difference between what Holtz said and trying to find a kicker for AMERICAN football?

    • So if the kid can kick field goals, it doesn’t matter if he’s not here legally?

      Or does Lou possess a superpower that lets him know whether someone is in the country legally just by looking at him?

      • Im Right, you're wrong

        Who said anything about getting an “illegal” kicker? You added that. It’s not that difficult a distinction to make even though you’re trying you’re best to make it one.

    • Herschel Krustofsky

      You’re the one who is FUCKING daft. You totally missed the point. How do you think Holtz’s views would go over in the living room of a kicker from another country?

      • Im right, you're wrong

        Who gives a fuck how it would go over in the living room of a kicker from another country?

        • Herschel Krustofsky

          Thanks for yet again proving that you’re the one who is daft. The Senator’s post referred to Holtz’s relationship with kickers from other countries. It’s the part of his post that prompted you to start spewing your verbal diarrhea. Here it is again:

          “I can’t help but wonder after catching Lou Holtz’ comments about immigrants if he ever recruited soccer-style kickers who were born outside of America.”

          A piece of advice…when you’re in a hole, stop digging.

          • I'm right, you're wrong

            Hey dumb fuck, he said “kickers who were born outside of the country”, not kickers who live outside of the country. Here’s a piece of advice, when you tell someone else to stop digging their whole, be sure you’re not in one yourself. Game, set, match.

            • I'm right, you're wrong

              Hole

            • Herschel Krustofsky

              Good lord. Are you desperately trying to say that the Senator was ONLY referring to kickers born outside of the country and currently living IN the US? And that he was excluding kickers born outside the country and NOT living in the US? And that, because he made this differentiation (which isn’t there but I’ll play along), we shouldn’t care about how Holtz’s views would go over with the group that does not live in the US? Is THAT what you’re so poorly attempting to communicate?

              Hey troll…go fuck yourself. And stop digging these holes!

              • Herschel Krustofsky

                Not to mention the fact that you started this comment thread by attacking the Senator b/c you thought he didn’t understand the difference between Holtz’s views and how it might affect recruiting.

        • A college football coach that is recruiting a good kicker not from the United States probably would which is the exact point the Senator was making.

          • simpl_matter

            Exactly. Lou don’s his cloak of xenophobia so easily when he’s speaking to the Right crowd. If he was still in the arena, he’d be disavowing his words right quick when he found himself being called on it in the home of a first generation 5*, #1 player in the nation with parents that couldn’t speak English.

  4. Normaltown Mike

    “Holtz added that his grandparents learned English after immigrating to the U.S. from Ukraine, and insisted his family learn it as well.”

    Holtz speaks English…who knew!

  5. Feldman lost me when he listed these teams as almost making his list, Appalachian State, WKU, & Bowling Green. I’m don’t think any SEC team would swap lines with those 3. They may be great in their conferences but I don’t think they would rate above many Power 5 teams.

    • Cojones

      Feldman’s analysis is as bogus as the one last week with UGA as #1. If you want another one that compares size (ht and wt) head for seccountry.com posted yesterday. UGA sits near or at the bottom in both lists. It’s just another way to compare O lines. All three should be combined to get a best analysis…uh..guess.

      The more Bert opens his mouth about their O line, the more impressed I become of Pittman. Ark sits atop the list of the three largest, but FU at #3 is a surprise and something to keep an eye on.

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  6. Athens Dog

    O line didn’t even make his cut………..

  7. ASEF

    A guy most famous for coaching the Fighting Irish complaining about celebrating immigrant holidays. Can’t make stuff like this up.

    Almost good as the 2012 Air Force vet who spent my daughter’s entire soccer game complaining about the 41% – a guy who literally spent his entire life cashing government pay checks and government retirement checks.

    Do people even listen to themselves anymore?

    • Herschel Krustofsky

      I assume Holtz is also spitting for the eradication of St. Patrick’s Day from his United States of America.

    • Flightdocdawg

      If you can’t tell the difference between individuals living off entitlement programs without demonstrating an inclination towards productivity and individuals serving their country or local government and then earning retirement (military, police, teachers, etc), then I fear your ability to reason.

      • DawgWalker07

        Eh I get it. The military is pretty bloated in terms of spending. How you can be a part of an institution that contributes mightily to of our federal budget deficit but at the same time think less of other people who are also a part of the system that contributes to our oversized government budget shows a little bit of a blind spot. Why can the government take care of you and not someone else? Who knows what services people who are on public assistance provide. We don’t really categorize that information, do we? And how are we going to say someone who shovels paperwork in an air force office for 30 years is anymore deserving of public assistance than someone who worked hard at a manufacturing job but got laid off when their job got shipped overseas? Why are you the arbiter of what job or life situation is valid enough to deserve a paycheck from the government?

        Not to mention people who usually complain about the 41% aren’t complaining about the much smaller percentage of the 41% that don’t actually want to get a job. It’s always, “The entire 41% is lazy and doesn’t want to work!” So it’s not really valid reasoning. It’s just them complaining about spending they don’t agree with. Which is their right, but it doesn’t make their opinion valid.

      • ASEF

        That 41% statistic Romney made front page news INCLUDED service men and women, plus retired vets, and plus gov employees like teachers as “moochers.” Hence the irony of said Air Force vet bitching about it.

        He was bitching about himself. Lack of perspective and understanding. Not stopping to hear himself talk.

        Clear now?

        • It also included retired old people whose primary form of income is Social Security that also likely rely on Medicare AND who were also most likely to vote for Romney in said election (demographically speaking). Using a statistic to disparage a swath of people in order pander to a voting bloc that is included in said statistic is delicious irony at its best.

  8. Tommy

    My boss is a soccer player player, born in Canada, the son of Italian immigrants, who played soccer for Notre Dame (and the Canadian national team). At one point in one of his last seasons at ND, Holtz was short kickers and brought in my boss to evaluate as a possible replacement. So, to answer your first question, yes.

  9. Cojones

    Yall lay off Holtz. He has a thinking and drankin’ problem. That’s why he’s at the GOP Convention. It looks like that’s why all of them are congregated in that most patriotic of all cities, Cleveland. Hope I’m not steppin’ on any bigass Republican toes here today.

    Nah, no self-respecting Dawg would believe all that bogus shit anyway.

  10. Billy Mumphrey

    Can’t wait for football season to start and election season to end.

  11. DawgPhan

    saw the number of comments for the buffet. Thought it was strange.

  12. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    I like the football posts better. I tend to think of political posts as the illegal immigrants of this blog.🙂

  13. PTC DAWG

    Politics and religion…..always great discussion topics. Some never learn.

  14. You can take the boy out of East Liverpool – you can’t take the East Liverpool out of the boy.

  15. anon

    ah yes—the look at me I am so tolerant fallacy….love it…takes real courage to be so tolerant.

  16. 69Dawg

    Welcome to the Senator’s off season click bait blog. I love your UGA blog but take this crap somewhere else.

  17. W Cobb Dawg

    Hey Lou, did they ever catch the person(s) who stole Derek Watson’s Escalade? Oh, and just one follow up: how did he come to have that Escalade in the first place?