I have no idea where this was coming from.
https://twitter.com/TK42_GTL/status/765752182532673536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
My, those sour grapes must be tasty. Ur… wait three hours and then post this clarification in the middle of the night:
https://twitter.com/TK42_GTL/status/765801834032300032
Dude, go back to bed. The indigestion will pass.
Get The Picture 
My only response is did he really trademark his name??
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This might as well say “Are UGA people still talking about me?”
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I am beginning to think this is a me guy. No room in Kirbys house for a guy like that.
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Call it “Smart football”…….. just sayin’
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It could also be the frustration that many UGA players/fans feel about the unlevel playing field that exists regarding disciplinary actions at schools like AU, TN, Ole Miss, Bama, FU, ohio, etc. You have your head in the sand if you think that doesn’t make a difference in how certain key games are determined. No reason to think players don’t pay attention to failed drug tests, how DUI and gun charges are dismissed, etc. And don’t even get into menial issues like drivers licenses, scooters, having a fake ID, BB guns, etc. are handled. Think the Honey Badger didn’t influence the outcome of games? Or that Callaway isn’t/wasn’t a difference maker? A few games each year are decided by one play, big time players make many of those.
Not endorsing the way he might be saying that, but smaller schools don’t play that…D1 schools shouldn’t either.
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Is UGA still his “own team”?
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little bit sad though, that he referred to Georgia as “my team”. Kid gave a blood, sweat and tears…though it sounds like he needs an attitude adjustment
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With the obvious disclaimer that I have no real knowledge of the situation: I’ve gotten the vibe that the guy has some serious personal problems. I don’t think he wanted to leave UGA, and I don’t think UGA wanted him to leave. But I think he did/was doing something or was involved in something that really affected his head and took away from his game and it ended his career at UGA. Sad. I hope he can work through it whatever it is.
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I think this was left TBD last year when the egg was left out og the frig and IT spoiled. We might as well be in the pharmacy with our toes on the line that states Please no closer due to the PIA.
We never knew what was up the the bowl game suspensio. CMR even with all the discipline and lost scholarships to Looeeville, Nerd Tech and countless others institues of higher incarseration. CMR tried to save me all.
Unfortunately when you save a rotten apple it will in turn spoiled the rest of the basket.
It tension filled or tight situations talent can help you be successful. Undisciplined talent will get you beat EVERYTIME !
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Speaking of ‘Today, in WTF’.
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Tim, it might be a good idea to hush. I’m not sure how throwing shade at your old program is supposed to convince a new program to pick you up. The worst thing the University of Georgia ever did to you is not hand you a starting job that you didn’t earn. We’re really sorry about that.
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Since we do not know the facts of the situation it seems really pitiful that so many are stating what a terrible kid this is. Perhaps other things have happened that sheds poor light on both the University and Tim. Perhaps Tim was going to be a “Whistleblower” and like so many of those the power holder runs them off. Perhaps Tim couldn’t stay out of trouble and gave the University nowhere to turn since the discipline policy seems so rigid. Perhaps he didn’t bust it hard enough. We don’t know what happened and blindly making bad comments seems really counterproductive to both the University and the player. Maybe one day we will know kinda like Ole Miss eventually knew about Laremy Tunsil’s antics. In the end that turned out poorly for both……………………….
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24 hours ago he tweeted “Mad I cant play for Georgia this year.”
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I’m sorry it didn’t work out for Kimbrough. I thought he played with a lot of heart – particularly when we were getting body slammed by bama last year. He kept delivering some good hits all the way to the bitter end. I’d hope he considers somewhere like GSU or KSU, where his credits can be easily transferred, play as a starter, and get a degree.
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Right. No way the process involves cheating of any kind. Bama definitely went from an afterthought to a historically great team with honest hard work, just like Ole Miss. Richt is gone which is what many of you wanted, so don’t be surprised when the allegation compass starts pointing towards Athens.
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You mean the Bama who leads the SEC in all-time wins? Is that the “afterthought” you’re referring to?
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Yeah, they were struggling to win bowl games and constantly vacating wins for breaking the rules. They even lost to ULM in Saban’s first season. They were an afterthought. Deal with it.
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Teams go through ups and downs. All teams do. Georgia certainly has, Alabama has, Michigan has, Nebraska is. However at no point should a historical superpower such as any of the aforementioned teams be considered an afterthought because they posses the brand name to be able to rebuild quickly, like Alabama did and Michigan is doing. Cheating may be part of it or may not be, but when you have name recognition like that you don’t need to cheat like the historically irrelevant Ole Miss to recruit well.
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You do if everyone else is. Also, Georgia doesn’t have anywhere near the same brand recognition at Michigan or Bama. While you’re in Neverland please tell Peter Pan we all said hello.
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Can’t speak for him, but pretty sure the “superpowers” reference was specifically relative to Bama, Mich, and Nebraska. Not many UGA fans are so bold, even with red/black glasses on, to put us in the same tier historically speaking.
With that said, you’re pretty far off base here. Who knows what it took to get Bama to where it is now coming off of the probation era, but what we can pretty much be assured of is that now that the engine is running, it doesn’t take cheating to keep it going. So far, I haven’t seen anything out of Smart that indicates anything other than the idea that he’s simply working harder than most and is several moves ahead. Saban is known for his ability to get right up against a line without crossing it. As a coach paid millions of dollars to win more than his predecessor, that’s now Smart’s job for better or worse.
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“I’ll never grow up tinkerbell”
Don’t be surprised at future inquiries.
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First, they were already a historically great team. I think the term you’re looking for is perennial superpower, maybe?
Second, you’re saying they went from struggling to win bowl games and vacating wins because they were cheating, to turning into a powerhouse, also because they’re cheating? That doesn’t really compute. They regained their old form because they completely bought in to winning; they hired the best coach in college football, committed to giving him anything he could remotely want or need (be it financially, through support staff, control, whatever), and the rest is history. Say what you will about Saban’s roster management tactics, but he doesn’t exactly have the reputation of a cheater.
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I used all the terms I meant to use. Let’s not get into semantics.
I’m not saying that Bama is only good because they’re cheating. I’m simply suggesting that they’ve gotten better at not getting caught when they do step over the line. There are always unverifiable rumblings around Tuscaloosa. You think just bc the NCAA doesn’t catch them that they’re clean? I suppose you think Cam Newton didn’t get paid to go to Auburn too?
Also, nobody thought Saban was the best coach in college football before he came to Bama. He backed into a national championship game at LSU, failed in the NFL and lost to ULM in his first season at Bama. Wake up.
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So you meant to use the wrong term, got it.
The thing is, Alabama doesn’t really have to cheat to be successful (or to once again become successful). Even before Saban was hired, they already had twelve national titles, 26 conference titles, and were one of the winningest and most recognizable programs in the country. Players want to come to Alabama because it’s Alabama. I’m not saying there are absolutely zero shady dealings that occur, because I don’t know that, but I know that Nick Saban has a reputation for running a pretty clean program.
Maybe no one thought Saban was the BEST coach in college football before he came to Bama, but he was damn sure viewed as one of the best. Three consecutive SEC West titles, two Sugar Bowl victories, a national championship, 2003 SEC Coach of the Year, 2003 AP National Coach of the Year, 2003 Bear Bryant Award Winner, 2003 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year…but I need to wake up. Speaking of wake up, how in the hell did LSU back into the national championship in 2003? They were number two in the BCS, number two in the AP, number two in the coaches poll. The controversy was between Oklahoma and USC, with USC being ranked number one in the AP but third in the BCS and vice versa for Oklahoma. LSU was roundly considered the second best team in the country.
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Bama has been historically great since Saban took over. What is difficult about that concept to you? Yes perennial would also be an acceptable term, but it’s not the only possible adjective.
One of the best coaches is not the same as the best coach. Nice backpedal there, you’re basically hanging your hat on one year where LSU won a title against Oklahoma, when they probably should have been losing it to USC who was widely consider a better team (widely makes more sense than roundly since you like semantics).
Either way I’m not trying to take say Saban isn’t a great coach, just that Richt is gone don’t be surprised if allegations of rule bending/breaking start coming out of Athens. Whether you think it happens at Bama or not, it does, and Georgia isn’t Bama.
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Well, there’s a difference between saying ‘turned into a historical powerhouse’ and ‘Bama has been historically great since Saban took over.’ Nice backpedal there.
I’m not hanging my hat on one year – the guy engineered a resurgence at three straight schools, culminating in a national championship at LSU. This was not a Gene Chizik scenario of getting lucky one year.
Roundly made plenty of sense how I used it, given that Merriam-Webster defines roundly as ‘by nearly everyone’…and nearly everyone had LSU ranked ahead of USC.
Rule breaking happened when Richt was in Athens. It happens everywhere, there’s just the question of whether its being sanctioned by the head coach. I don’t think Alabama or Georgia are doing so with the same level of institutional buy-in on the process as somewhere like Ole Miss, but who knows, that’s just my opinion.
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Your first paragraph is semantics again. Completely weak.
Saban’s culmination has definitely been at Bama not LSU so that’s wrong.
Roundly does make sense, but not as much as widely. I hate semantics, but you asked for it.
What rule breaking happened with Richt? I’m just curious.
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Semantics, maybe, but not weak. A historical powerhouse would be a team that has been great throughout history, which Alabama is already; to say that they turned into a historical powerhouse after Saban doesn’t make sense, because they already were a historical powerhouse. If you change the statement to say that they’ve been playing at historic levels since Saban took over (or that they’ve been historically great since he took over), then it has the meaning that they’ve been better than they’ve ever been before in history. The meanings are decidedly different.
Jesus, this is like pulling teeth. I wasn’t saying that Saban’s career culminated in a national championship at LSU. I was saying that his coaching career to that point had been to engineer a resurgence at three straight schools, which culminated in a national championship at LSU. Fuck’s sake, man. To your point, yes, Saban has been consistently better at Bama than anywhere else he’s been…that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a great coach before he got there. He also has a perfect situation at Bama that positions him to be much more successful than anywhere else he’s been. This is the point I made from the get-go, which is that it’s not that he’s cheating that is making the difference; he’s been so successful because of the level of buy-in he’s received from the administration, the fact that he’s at one of the marquee programs in the country, and he’s geographically located near one of the most fertile recruiting areas in the country. Add all of this to the fact that he’s a spectacular coach, and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that the largest staff + the most money + the best facilities + almost complete control of the program = sustained high levels of success. If you want to chalk it up to cheating, fine, but it’s a pretty short-sighted approach.
Given that roundly means ‘by nearly everyone’ (which is exactly what I meant), while widely means ‘a lot; by a large number of people’, I’ll stick with my use of roundly as being the more appropriate term in this instance. Your mileage may vary, of course.
AJ selling his jersey, Gurley selling autographs…I know for a fact a running back in the mid 2000s (that I won’t name) traded a football autographed by the entire team in exchange for rims for his car from a local auto shop. I’m not saying Richt condoned these things – of course he didn’t – but the point is that it happens everywhere. The difference is whether it’s something the administration gets involved with, which is the big difference maker for cases like what Ole Miss is dealing with currently, or like tattoogate at Ohio State and Tressel. Hell, the only reason those rules are officially on the books as far as sale of rings/paraphernalia/etc. is because of the 2002 ‘ringgate’ with Fred Gibson, Michael Johnson, Kedric Golston, and however many other guys sold their rings
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A semantics argument is always weak no matter the subject matter. It’s the lowest form of debate, and it has nothing to do with what we’re talking about. You’re just grasping for straws.
You said Saban engineered a resurgence at three straight schools culminating in a title at LSU. I assume you mean Mich St. LSU and Bama. If so then how could the culmination be LSU? He’s won multiple titles at Bama. That’s the culmination.
Of course players break rules. I was talking about cheating that stems from the coaches.
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The lowest form of argument? What in the fuck are you talking about?
Again, re: culmination, I’m talking about at the time. For some reason, you’re leaving out Toledo, his first HC gig, where he took a team that had been 6-5 for two years and went 9-2 with them and won the MAC. So to spell that out for you, in his first three stops as a head coach, he won a conference championship with Toledo, led MSU to their best season since 1965 (at the time, of course), and then won three SEC West titles and two SEC championships at LSU, culminating in winning the national championship in 2003. How is this so difficult to understand? Has he done more since then? Of course he has, but at the time (which is what we were discussing…his stature in the coaching ranks pre-Alabama), his career had followed the path I’ve detailed several times now.
Re: cheating, basically your argument is ‘it’s happening even if he’s not getting caught, because how else could he be so successful?’ Then when presented with alternatives as to why he’s so successful, they’re just ignored. Really strong argument you’ve got going here. Anyway, I think we’re just going around in circles at this point, so I’ll leave it be and we can agree to disagree.
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I’ll without an ounce of shame that I did not know he was at Toledo in 90, and I’m willing to bet that you didn’t either. Seriously, how relieved were you when you googled Saban’s career just now and saw that he was at Toledo for one season?😂
‘it’s happening even if he’s not getting caught, because how else could he be so successful?’
That’s not what I was saying at all. I think it would be best for you to leave it be. At this point you’re going to wear out your search engine looking up word definitions and obscure facts ab Saban’s career to try and justify your weak position.
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We pumping up. bout time
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He was a DGD and we don’t need to tear him apart just because he is gone. I am sure if tweeting was around when you were his age many of you would have said equally stupid stuff.
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Clarification tweet makes me think the first one is about turning down an offer from Auburn.
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I got to meet his parents a couple of times and they were genuinely engaged in their son’s activities and his future. They travelled from the Indianapolis area to see him play. In so many instances we see missing parents not involved in their children’s lives. I don’t know what happened here, but I was sure impressed that his family was so engaged. I wish him well and hope that whatever happened is resolved for the best of both the University and him. His tweet doesn’t seem like that for sure.
As I see all the transfers from the Bama program happen and combine that with some of the above comments I fear many UGA fans are so hungry that selling souls to the devil to “Win” seems to be on the table.
These kids aren’t pieces of meat y’all………………………
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