Today, in one of these things is not like the other

Giant sigh.

Just once would have been nice.  Just once.

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42 responses to “Today, in one of these things is not like the other

  1. Calidawg

    This should bring out nothing but measured, well-reasoned comments.

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  2. Granthams replacement

    Herbstreit’s doctrine and CJ Mosely’s fingertip kept it from happening.

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  3. heyberto

    Getting high ranking recruits wasn’t Richt’s problem. Getting a large number of them and at every position consistently was. I’ve never paid much attention to recruiting. Usually only on signing day when it’s all signed, sealed delivered but I think the flaws in Richt’s recruiting weren’t evident in the overall grade of his classes, unfortunately.

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    • Mayor

      CMR’s problem, aside from not using all his available scholarships, was that he hardly ever fielded a complete team. One year they would be short at DB–the next at RB. Georgia consistently had a lack of depth across the OL. I remember one year, 2011, when we actually had a pretty good team, when due to injury we had to play walk-ons and guys who weighed 170 pounds at RB in the bowl. Maybe not using all the scholarships was the root cause of that problem. But when you are facing a team in your own division that wins natties (FU and before them UT) yu had better have a full deck to play with because the opposition sure as hell will. Roster mismanagement was CMR’s biggest fault IMHO.

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      • Macallanlover

        In agreement that we often had quality pieces but not necessarily all the “right” positions based on need of certain units. That happens to many teams, usually in the last 3-4 signee decisions, so class rankings can be misleading.

        What I don’t agree with is never signing to a full class. While that did occur in some years it was a small number, and due to not getting the players we wanted/expected on NSD, and refusing to over sign. We could have taken 1-3 “placeholders” to hit the 85, but don’t kis yourself, they would have rarely seen the field. When we got down to the 75 or 68 type numbers, it was at the end of the year when injuries, transfers, suspensions, adademic casualties, etc. were all contributing. I have often said the NCAA should allow a small over signing “cushion”, to 88 or so, to account for some attrition because it is impossible to predict, and encourages the gross over signing we have seen in many programs. Richt played strictly by the book, but few programs followed that path (notably, to their credit, FU and Clemson did also). That put us at a disadvantage starting out every year a few short, but for a god reason. We just didn’t get any support from the SEC or NCAA, and the scumbags were rewarded. Could have been easily handled.

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        • rchris

          Attrition. Thank you. If someone did a study of quantity and quality of attrition among the top ten recruiting schools during this period I suspect we’d finish very high, if not in first.

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    • Greg

      His top 10 recruiting classes was consistent with his top 10 finishes (on average)……

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  4. DawgintheDec

    Throwaway recruiting classes.

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  5. Aladawg

    Translated into 10 wins a year a couple of SEC championships and several east champs. Not so bad.

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  6. kalamazoodawn

    Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Oh so close in 02, 07, 12. Call it bad luck, call it inability to win the big one, whatever. 02- we had a loss in a year when 2 others didn’t. 07 – wrong 2 loss team. 12 – oh for 5 more seconds. Not a commentary on whether Richt should have been fired or not. Just proves how slim the margin of error can be. You can do a lot of what-iffin and put us in the MNC game any of those years. And then we’re not even having this discussion. I used to have this conversation with a friend many moons ago, about how lucky UGA was in the Dooley/Herschel years. 80 – George Rogers’ fumble, Belue to Scott, winning the Sugar Bowl while being dominated just to name a few. You better recruit and coach, but you need some luck too.

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  7. Stan

    Unfortunately he also started every season with only 75 scholarship players.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      Hell, in 2012, we only had 65 on scholly — the exact same number USC had on scholly that year while under major NCAA probation. Only after Pruitt arrived did we actually stop putting ourselves on major probation yearly for no reason whatsoever. Not to mention Pruitt finally getting us the IPF that CMR couldn’t do for years prior.

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      • Mayor

        Having CMR as HC was similar to being on probation. I always thought that we should figure out a way to sell our lack of team size to some school that was on probation (USC comes to mind immediately) for several million bucks and let us serve their time for them. Certainly would have mae McGarity and the suits at B-M happy. All they care about is money anyway.

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        • 3rdandGrantham

          Well the latter about TPTB only caring about money is correct. Unfortunately CMR wasn’t a strong enough leader and didn’t want to win badly enough to overcome all of that. He became content and figuratively (and literally) grew fat and happy; hence the apathetic malaise that set in with constant fires popping up that needed addressing.

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          • Mayor

            I’m not saying you aren’t right about CMR becoming fat and happy but think about what your post says about the University of Georgia as an institution. Why should a HC at a major university that is supposed to be a football power have to “overcome all of that.” Isn’t it the job of the AD and the AB to provide full support to the program to maximize the team’s chances of winning? Can you for even 1 millisecond imagine such a situation existing at Bama? The real problem with UGA not winning championships is inside B-M. What happens on the field is a manifestation of decisions being made by those guys. Until we clean up the rat’s nest inside B-M UGA ain’t winning any natties in football and if we did it would be in spite of–not because of–those assholes. Actually, it is somewhat amazing to me that CMR got as close as he did with the lousy support the team was getting. Someone kicked over the water cooler though (maybe Jere Morehead) and I think McGarity has no place to hide now. But with regard to all sports, I think the school has taken a giant step backward since McCheap arrived. Football isn’t the only sport at Georgia. We use to be at or near the top of a whole lot of other sports and a perennial contender for the all sports trophy but not so much any more. We can change coaches as much as we want but until there is a genuine commitment to win coming out of B-M nothing is going to be different.

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        • doofusdawg

          scholarship credits or maybe scholarship indulgences. All of our scholarships were definitely renewable.

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    • Greg

      Can’t play’em all, look how many the pros have on their rosters.

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  8. 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2012 were great seasons. 2004, 2008, 2011, and 2014 were good seasons that didn’t end the way we would have liked. 2013 is the season of what might have been if not for the Kneeland turf. It’s time to move on.

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  9. Argondawg

    Love CMR but post 2006 we didn’t win any championships of any kind unless we had somehow won champions of life from Bootch. A conference title would have been nice. Back when that meant something.

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    • Mayor

      Not correct UGA won the SEC East in ’11 & 12.

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      • Argondawg

        That’s not a championship. Really.

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        • Rocketdawg

          No one else not named Bama or Auburn has either. That isn’t a defense of CMR but rather a fact.
          The last time an SEC East team won the conference was 2009. IMO if Gurley doesn’t go down against LSU and we don’t lose half the team to injury against UT the next week we end up back in ATL against Auburn with a real chance to win. It took the flukiest play in the history of college football for them to beat us in Auburn.

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        • Mayor

          SOS ordered rings for USCe after the Dicks…er…Cocks won the SEC East in ’09.

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    • Greg

      He averaged winning the SEC more times (on average) than all the coaches combined before him (school history). Maybe Georgia football just ain’t as good as you think it should be.

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      • doiknowu

        Hmm, let’s do some math. CMR won two SECCs in 15 years, so that’s one every 7.5 years. Dooley won 6 SECCs in 25 years. That’s one every 4.17 years (school history). I’d say you need a new calculator. Or a new history book.

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  10. CKS

    rings collect dust bitchez

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  11. W Cobb Dawg

    That’s a lot of squandered talent and opportunities. And that, in a nutshell, is Georgia football – unfortunately.

    The feeling I get many times is we’re just plain snakebit. And it’s not just CMR, it happened this year with the Dobbs pass, IMac 4th down run, and gtu interception.

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  12. Yep. Les Miles doesn’t have a job.

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