There are times when that phrase is not a cliché.
“We remember the Sugar Bowl, I think it my junior year of high school, we let Alabama beat us twice,” Brinson said of a team that also lost to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship game. “We’re not letting Alabama beat us twice. In the Sugar Bowl in 2018, they… thought they should have been in the playoffs and lost to Texas.” -- AB-H, 12/27/23
Children who are victims of sexual abuse may be three times more likely to grow up to become abusers of children. It is truly tragic.
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Sexual abuse is like a disease. I guess it’s less surprising that it occurred as child molesters were often molested as children. Another reason to leave Jerry Sandusky in prison to rot.
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So if Jerry Sandusky were abused as a child and then grew up to commit his crimes where does the line between victim and monster get drawn?
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We can’t change how it began…it’s how it ends we have to be responsible for. Pity for the guilty can only go so far.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauche
It was in 84. Here’s the story.
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It would be interesting, but far out of the realm of good taste, to find out what became of the child. I pray he’s been able to live a normal life. What a tragedy.
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The three comments I made above this one are out of place (my bad)..they should be under my 4:56 comment.
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There is a good chance that Jerry Sandusky was a victim at one time. However, explaining one’s propensity for evil doesn’t excuse it. He should be held accountable, just as his son should.
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I struggle with this because I’m a parent. I have to imagine that if one of my children were abused, I would likely murder the abuser and happily take my chances in court and prison. I can’t imagine how people who experience this stuff hold it together.
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If I were on your jury I couldn’t acquit you fast enough.
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I remember an incident, probably from the ’70s, where a guy had molested a child and the father shot him…I think in an airport. Seems like it was in Louisiana. Also there was a really bad guy in prison..someone sent him a small radio with poor volume and when he put it to his ear it blew up…he never heard the end of the song that was playing.
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I remember the airport shooting. Karate instructor kidnaps student they fly to California. He is caught and brought back. Father on phone as the prisoner is escorted by a plainclothes police man. Father drops phone when they are walking by and shoots 3 or 4 times. Suspect dies. Father arrested.
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He got 5 years probation for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauche
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That would be Pee Wee Gaskins. However, he was hired to kill a fellow death row inmate who killed an elderly couple in an armed robbery that went bad (their son hired Pee Wee). He rigged the radio with explosives and told the guy he had to hold it right by his ear so the guards won’t hear it. They heard the C4 though!
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Wholeheartedly agree. This stuff sickened me to my stomach before I had children of my own. But now that I’m a parent of an infant and toddler, words can’t express the emotions I feel for any child that is exposed to such evil.
I do in fact feel sad for his son. Most likely he too was abused as a child; otherwise he probably wouldn’t be in the news today for comitting heinous acts of his own.
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It really is sad because Jeffery was probably molested by Jerry. Not making an excuse for Jeffery, it’s just too bad he couldn’t get help and avoid that fucked up behavior. Lock him up to protect other kids. It’s a fucked up world.
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One issue that some have is that therapists are mandatory reporters. Hypothetically, if Jeffery Sandusky sought help and a therapist believed he was a threat to children, the therapist would have to report him to authorities. Thus, potential threats are less likely to seek help and more likely to move from potential threat to actual threat.
On the other hand, one hates to think of pedophiles using doctors as a refuge from accountability. There may not be a correct answer on how to handle this kind of issue.
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I agree with all your points. Like I said: It’s a fucked up world.
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Sorry, just don’t buy the “disease” label for pedophiles. A disease is something contracted, or developed, involuntarily. These actions were deliberate decisions by adults who knew what they were doing. I do have a prescription/formula of sorts though that would slow the spread of this “disease” down significantly. And it is simple, inexpensive and stops the disease cold; it has just two ingredients, a short piece of rope and a strong tree limb at least 8 feet off the ground.
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You should understand the definition of a word before you dismiss it out of hand. Disease does not mean what you think it means, Mac.
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I’m sure Mac appreciates the condescension.
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I don’t take it quite that way, sure he meant well. I use the generally used layman’s interpretation so I could well be off a bit. But I feel many are tired of excusing horrible behavior and not holding people accountable. Doesn’t matter if it is this interpretation/use of a word, or because they grew up without air conditioning, a nuclear family, etc. I still say, “Hang ‘Em High” (with all due respect to those offended by my method of applying accountability. We all see things differently.
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I meant disease as in something that can be passed on.
Here’s Google definition of disease. It’s kind of broad:
dis·ease
dəˈzēz/
noun
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.
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Your definition of “disease” is one of the accepted definitions. But not the only one. And not the one appropriate for use in describing sexual proclivities. Although, few people who have unhealthy sexual desires voluntarily developed them. Most people with those desires struggle against acting on them.
And everyone, with the exception of NAMBLA sickos, agrees that those acting on criminal desires should be held accountable. So there is no problem with criminal punishment for criminals. But simply dismissing behavioral explanations that, if properly understood and treated, could help prevent future criminal behavior and people from being victimized, doesn’t help anyone.
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Very well stated. Good post.
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Very well put. It’s a tragedy all the way around. Sandusky’s son was likely a victim when he was a boy. It turns my stomach to think his own mother probably stuck up for the elder Sandusky and left the boy with no outlet to express anything. That mental (in addition to physical) assault would have gone on for years. It’s easy to pass judgment on the entire Sandusky family, but it could have been anyone’s child.
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When I saw the title, I though this was the post where we would get to press F for Quentin Moses. I happened to miss that post yesterday.
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Ohio recently released an inmate after serving only six years that raped a mom in front of her 2 year old child. Less than two months after being released, he is accused of raping and murdering an Ohio State coed. If Sandusky is guilty as charged, I hope he rots in prison so that he never hurts another victim.
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Ugh.
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Gotta be a special place in hell for people who do this.
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Yes, they are going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
RIP, Ron Glass
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