2013 can’t completely explain this.
Sure, you can lay some of the blame there. How much goes to poor evaluation or development and how much to various aspects of the Georgia Way, I can’t begin to say, but it takes a village to raise a talent deficit of that magnitude.
To drag out that analogy a little further, Kirby’s the new village manager, but the mayor and village council are still intact. (I’ll leave you to make the rude cracks about the village idiots.) All we can do is hope the manager is sharp enough to overcome the rest of the political structure.
Get The Picture 
It speaks for itself.
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CMR got complacent in his final years. This was just another reason I believe it was a good idea for UGA to part ways with him.
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But still won 50 games in his last 5 years, 40 in his last 4.
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14-23 against ranked teams his last 8 years at uga. Pretty much sums it up. Not sure why this has to be explained still.
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Of those 37 games, how many of those teams were ranked ahead of UGA before the played??…..& what would be the record then??
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I don’t have the numbers but I’m pretty certain Georgia was favored in the vast majority of those games regardless of ranking at the time the game was played. Richt piled up some big win totals against weak teams but consistently crapped the bed in games that mattered and got blown out by the good teams he faced.
Kirby may not be the answer but I’m glad we moved on from the perpetual disappointment that was Richt.
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Not surprised, most who throw out those numbers do not. FWIW, I had no problem in replacing Richt either…as long as the situation improved. I was grateful for what Richt did for UGA, he gets trashed WAY too much.
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He may get trashed too much, but for every stat about how much he won, there’s another that can be trotted out that paints a very different picture. He will always be remembered in a polarized way, IMO, because of this. I think we just have to accept that there were very good reasons to keep him …and just as good reasons to let him go.
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Good points…and do not disagree for the most part, there just needs to be improvement. Last year was very disappointing, time will tell…..
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Thought this thread was gonna turn inot a shitstorm. One of the many reasons I come here is because the commenter manage to keep discussions relatively civil. Well done.
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LOL!…thanks, too many get offended when there is disagreement.
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luckily for us, your boy got shit canned. so, no not offended as you appear as a cmr apologist.
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For me the biggest problem was the way CMR would fuck up a close game at the end and turn a win into a loss. Time after time. Over a period of years. How can you get paid $4 Mil, do this consistently and be allowed to get away with it? You can’t and the chickens finally came home to roost. The second part of that equation is how can you screw up so many times and seemingly not learn from those mistakes? Lets see what happens in Miami. Maybe CMR has learned…..I’m betting no.
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We’ll see, I think he actually will. I think Pruitt’s influence was huge for him, it was just too little too late at UGA. To rebuild a culture the way he wanted was going to require building from the ground up. He wasn’t going to be able to do that in Athens; too much institutional memory.
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One, I can count exactly one game where Richt made a call/decision at the end of the game that almost certainly caused the loss…Auburn, 2001. No other. Much ado about nothing.
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I blame Obama.
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Finally! Thank you! Someone telling it like it is! You know, you have to first recognize there’s a problem before it can be fixed. Problem is many in Dawgnation are quick to cry “troll” when one points out things can and should be much better.
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I know some of you younger guys weren’t around back then but FU used to be the way UGA is now and has been for damn near 35 years. FU would have winning seasons and get picked in some preseason top 25 lists. But FU would lose the big games. Georgia would WIN the big games. And Georgia consistently beat FU when it mattered all through the 60s and 70s and most of the 80s. But Now FU does that. Now Georgia LOSES the big games–the ones championships come from. Essentially, UGA and FU have traded places. This has gone on since 1989, the year SOS became HC at FU. It has gone on through 4 UGA HCs now. (The jury is still out on Kirby though at this time I see nothing to convince me he’s any different.) What is constant, however, is B-M. The attitude that money is more important than winning. That is the rats nest in the corncrib. Clean out those rats! Then maybe Georgia can take its rightful place as a winner once again.
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Garner left prior to 2013 signing day. All of his targets fled.
Again, the 2013 class was a trailing indicator. The real problem was the roster management from 2009-2012, culminating with only have 68 scholarship guys in 2012.
That lead to having to sign the largest class in school history in 2013, but very few big time guys. They loaded up on reaches. Just a disastrous situation that was several years in the making.
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VERY insightful!!
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+1
This is true. Also coming off of a 12-2 with many playing opportunities opening up from eight NFL draft picks with two first rounders, we were primed for a great opportunity to cash in on a great class.
But Garner left in December 2012 and we went over a year without a recruiting coordinator until Bryan McClendon was named after signing day 2014.
Contingency planning wasn’t a strong point of the previous coaching staff and it burned us for two recruiting classes.
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It’d be interesting to see how many drafted players started their career at UGA but didn’t finish it there. I’m sure they didn’t factor in to the stat in the tweet.
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The answer is 2: Brandan Langley and Josh Harvey-Clemons
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you pretty much summed up a decade of Georgia football with two short paragraphs. Hopefully the recruits can grasp this and understand things are different. As a matter of fact I recall that a lot of the kids that Kirby has signed his first two years have made the statement that things seem different now… acknowledging that they didn’t even consider Georgia before the change.
I guess that’s good.
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That is a staggering amount of fail right there.
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Still not sure the new village manager can reach the win totals of his predecessor. He has the smart ass Saban approach down pat, but as an overall manager time will tell. Also has the purse strings loosened that handicapped the prior coach, but as senator stated the major is still hanging around probably depending on Smarts record next two years.
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In your last sentence you could have used smart instead of sharp.
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the 2013 class is only part of it, the other part is everybody that would have been drafted this year decided to play their Sr year instead
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That is truly an amazing statistic. Unprecedented, maybe? It would almost seem to be impossible.The hemorrhage of Georgia high school talent to our competitors is incredible.
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BTW, didn’t the entire SEC produce 53 draft picks? And the state of Georgia alone produced 29? To say that UGA is sitting on a gold mine (that everyone else is mining) is an understatement.
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I believe that winning starts in the front office. Just take a look at the Lakers since Dr Buss died. Unfortunately I don’t remember a UGA head coach with the complete, united support of the Athletic Dept and the Admin.BTW, I’m an old assed man.
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Looking at it a different way, we have all but iMac coming back.
If both lines get better, we have a chance.
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Except that the 3 undrafted, senior offensive linemen might be better than the new guys. The unmitigated shitshow on the OL since 2014 can’t be overstated enough. It was/is program-killing bad.
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Did people actually look at the list or just read and react after the tweet? There were a bunch of guys from Georgia high schools I had never heard of. Sure, there were guys we missed on with Deshaun Watson and Evan Engram at the top of that list. Can we officially say the 2013 class can no longer be used as a excuse for failure on the field?
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Yeah, 2013 is finally purged from the program (for all practical purposes).
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Just a quick glance at that list and off the top of my head I count around 10-12 guys that were highly rated that we flat out got beat for. Then there are a handful that we just didn’t go hard after ( Dobbs, Sutton, Lawson) that the staff claimed didn’t fit our system. I remember a lot of people pissed about us not pursuing Lawson, but Grantham thought he was a tweener in the 3-4. He was right to an extent, he wasn’t long enough or athletic in space for OLB, and didn’t have the size to play inside. He was a good fit as a 4-3 end and ended up doing what was best for him. Other guys, like Evan Ingram weren’t highly rated and not heavily recruited, so give credit to Ole Miss for seeing his potential. Then the rest of the guys on this list weren’t highly rated or recruited by anyone and ended up at smaller schools where they developed. The league is full of guys like that. Not all these players were from the ’13 recruiting cycle, some were early entries and others fifth year players. When I have time, I’m going to break down the list and see what these guys were rated nationally and ranked as Georgia recruits. I’m curious of how many lower rated players slipped through every power schools radar.
Click to access Draftpicks%20By%20State.pdf
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It was not the ’13 class failure. It all started September 2010. The day Greg McGarity was hired. Not only did the football program begin to tank, so did the other sport.
Exclude Smart for the time being. Almost every decision he has made has been bad.
Case in point. Dawgs swept in Athens. Gators love to play us. We fatten their records and bank accounts.
Check the “Ike Cousins” 4 year baseball record.
Does the powers to be like seeing their asses kicked by the Gators all the time? Why hell yes they do.
Think not? Then explain the substandard sports achievements in the men’s big three.
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Don’t cheer wins. cheer for
Pennies moral platitudes.
Cheer The Georgia Way.
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“Kirby’s the new village manager, but the mayor and village council are still intact.”
Every once in a while a Wooden or Saban comes along. If bama were repeating their success across the board, it would be appropriate to say their management is better. Yes, McGarity sucks. But look around the country. Management at most other schools isn’t much different or better than UGA’s.
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Glad you were able to work the Georgia Way in there.
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I can recall at least a couple of recruits that Richt had to place at other schools because of the Georgia Way.
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West Georgia even had 2 selected
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I have all but given up on keeping Georgia kids
Home they have no state pride.
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It’s because in a lot of places in the state, it’s closer to home to go somewhere else. Also, we’re never going to sign 25 Georgia kids in a single class. The recruit wants the best experience, and no one goes to a school only for state pride. I guess that means Jacob Eason, Sony Michel, and many others on our roster had no state pride because they came to Georgia from out of state.
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