The perception of reality, or the reality of perception?

Man, if you’re not on the Kirby Smart bandwagon, that CBS writers poll ranking all the P5 coaches is manna from heaven.

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100 responses to “The perception of reality, or the reality of perception?

  1. The Truth

    Totally fair analysis. Might quibble with the Chaney comment. If you beg a wait and see approach for Kirby, I don’t know why that doesn’t extend to Chaney. My attitude toward Kirby right now is that he better find some bigger britches because he’s certainly too big for the ones he has now, given the start to his UGA tenure.

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  2. Keese

    Truer words hath never been spoken. A few more things could’ve been added to that list. I’m ready for a new coach already.

    To those that believe Kirby is the right guy for the program I would love to hear the reasons (other than he’s a good recruiter)…..

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  3. Cojones

    The “few big dollar boosters” led us to this point without so much as a hoot in the fan’s direction and simply used the “can’t win the big ones” philosophy to a coach renewal reality. What in hell are they going to do now, blame the man who took us there at their behest?

    Yeah, I think that’s already started. I just want their ass out of my school’s football program.

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    • Mayor

      ^^This. Thank goodness someone had the balls to speak the truth. Kirby Smart isn’t the problem. Kirby Smart is a SYMPTOM of the problem. Clean out that entire rat’s nest of hangers on and insiders that have been undermining Georgia’s football program for years. Fran Tarkenton is the first one they need to get rid of but there are a whole lot of others. I am looking right at you, Mr. Liquor, when I say that too..

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  4. He has built quite a large fire, let us all hope he can tend it well.

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  5. Billy Mumphrey

    Kirby had one year and didn’t get it done. Not even in the top 50 of a random CBS ranking of head coaches. Definitely time to move on. Only McGarity would be stupid enough to give him a second year.

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  6. 81Dog

    Kirby’s the UGA coach, I’m a UGA guy, everyone wants him to succeed. However, his hiring was a signal that whoever is calling the shots for UGA football these days doesn’t care about SEC East titles or 9 and 10 win seasons. Kirby got hired for one reason only, far as I can figure: he’s expected to win SEC titles and contend for NCs. Last year was a mixed bag, at best. Now he has 2 supposedly massive recruiting classes in his pocket, he’s had 2 offseasons to install his way of doing things, he has a pretty solid group of senior leaders in Chubb, Michel, Sanders and Bellamy (and talented players, too). We have a battle tested QB who brought us back against UNC, who beat AU as an underdog, and who led us back to what should have been a win against UT. The East is as open as it’s ever been. McIwaine is about out of Boom’s defensive recruits, and they still don’t seem to have a QB. Missouri is a dumpster fire. UT has no QB and doesn’t have as good of a roster as UGA has. Vandy? Please. Doing more with less still means you have less. S Carolina? Boom couldn’t hardly beat UGA with all the recruiting advantages he had at Florida, and he has less talent at SCar than UGA has right now. Kentucky? Are Derrick Ramsey and Art Still back in school? No? Alrighty then.

    Kirby is the coach because we aren’t supposed to be sentimental about anything but winning. Ok, then. He better win, and win now. Not a national championship, not even an SEC…this year. He better get to Atlanta if he expects anyone to believe he can actually coach the talent he’s recruited.

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    • Mayor

      Actually 81, Kirby Smart IS the HC at Georgia because those influencing the decisions at B-M ARE sentimental. They wanted a “Georgia Guy.” They didn’t want “the best man for the job.” If they had wanted the best man there were several who they could have picked instead of Kirby Smart. I wanted CMR to be gone and said so repeatedly here because I felt he had worn out his welcome and had split the fanbase. But if CMR was to go I wanted B-M to hire an experienced HC with a track record of winning championships–an improvement over CMR. Instead, look what they did. They hired a guy with no HC experience who has shown in the one year that he has been HC at Georgia that he doesn’t have a clue about anything except recruiting. Great! If he will just recruit and hire first rate assistants to run the team that could work. But no, he has amassed the worst group of misfits ever to be the Georgia coaching staff. He’s the head coach of my alma mater–for now–and we all need to hope he is successful. But I fear that what the Senator and others said before CMR was let go is true: B-M would choke on the hire and we would end up worse off than we were with Richt. As I write this that certainly appears to be what has happened.

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  7. Greg

    He lost me the first week he got there when he started to complain about the players he had (not big enough, not strong enough, not fast enough, not long enough)…..hard to play for a guy like that imo. Also hard to recruit the players you need, especially if you are not winning & no track record of winning. It all catches up to you……

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  8. PTCDAWG

    The comments here are not surprising, yep, this is one miserable group at times.

    Kirby gone get it done…or not, way too early to tell either way…I am glad he addressed the OL though…

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  9. Willie

    Well then I guess you’re pretty thankful this morning….. eh, senator?

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    • I think polls like that are stupid, and, as I’ve said repeatedly, Smart is UGA’s head coach, I want UGA to succeed, so I want Smart to do well.

      You should guess again.

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      • fastcarsslowwomen

        The point of reference for this poll is how well you did in expectation from your place in last year’s poll. I mean, that’s dumb, why should Kirby have to pay for these 5 writers ranking him too high as a first year coach? To me, it just says these writers don’t know how to evaluate.

        They admitted the reason they ranked him too high was because he had worked closely with Saban as an Asst-how dumb is that??? To rank Kirby top 50 until he’s won a game was dumb last time.

        Kirby had #24 ranked Paul Johnson beat until the last 35 seconds of the game, lost to Butch Jones on a 50 yard Hail Mary on the last play of the game. and had wins over 4 coaches ranked ahead of him in the poll like Muschamp(????), and 3 top 25 coaches Fedora, Malzahn, and Patterson, all in his first season as a Head Coach.

        Kirby looks like a top 30-40 coach according to which coaches he beat ahead of him, in their own poll.

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        • slowcarsfastwomen

          Do you really want a top 30-40 coach as the HC of the University of Georgia football program? I sure as hell don’t.

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          • The Bruce

            I think you missed the point.

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          • fastcarsslowwomen

            Missed your question earlier. Saban wouldn’t have been higher than 30-40 with his 7-6 2007 season than Kirby would have finished in 2016 going 8-5.

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            • Right. Saban’s resume after the ’07 season contained a national championship, three conference championships and an AP National Coach of the Year award.

              Other than that, it was pretty middle of the pack. //sarcasm

              I’ve let you troll, but I’d say you’re getting close to the edge of my patience.

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              • fastcarsslowwomen

                I was trying to show how this poll would have ranked Saban based on his isolated 2007 performance. They might have started him out before 2007 @20-25, and dropped him 10 spots because he didn’t live up to their expectations, so he’d have started out 2008 ranked in the 30-40 range, right before he went 12-0 in 2008. So I was showing how dumb the poll is. I agree his overall resume was better at the end of 2007 than Kirby’s was at the end of 2016, no question, but that wasn’t what I was comparing nor the criteria for the writers in the poll, I was just isolating one season vs expectations of these writers and pollsters.

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                • If that’s what you’re trying to show, you flopped, mainly because that’s not the methodology behind the CBS poll. As Clegg notes,

                  For what it’s worth, Richt is ranked 15th, ahead of all the above. Let’s be honest. Richt’s first season at Miami was nothing special other than the feel-good story of going home. The Hurricanes were 9-4…

                  You don’t have a clue, so quit digging.

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      • You sure seem to salivate every time you can find a negative article referencingKorby. We get it. What if tom Herman had been hired? Would you take so much glee in his horror of an oline and freshman QB ending up with the same record or be making excuses?

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  10. It seems to me that the story isn’t that our coach is 54th. The story is that we unceremoniously fired the guy ranked 15th with zero hope of hiring anyone ranked higher than that. I certainly hope that CKS lands above CMR and soon, but the idea that the decision to part with no. 15 was without risks was always stupid.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      Derek, it is the “No difference in being 15th or in being last” version of the Ricky Bobby “If you ain’t first you’re last” attitude. Rick Bobby’s Father recognized that attitude as bullshit .
      I am in the camp you and 81 occupy. I want my alma mater to succeed and I hope Smart is the coach to do it. I accept the fact that he had a lot to learn about being a head coach in 2016 and he may have learned his craft last season. His arrogance, however, makes me fear that he believes he already knows it all and does not learn from his mistakes.

      Lord, I hope I am wrong and he wins big. Otherwise, there had better not be any more 36 hour national searches for his successor.

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  11. fastcarsslowwomen

    Kirby will always be compared to Saban.
    Differences:
    1- Kirby’s team hasn’t blown out a team yet, even the wins against Nichols St and L Laf were close throughout.
    Saban blew out W Caro 52-6 his first season.
    2- Kirby’s team got blown out by Ole Miss 45-14.
    Saban didn’t have a loss of more than 7 points in 2007.
    3- Kirby finished in FPI 69, 19, 113 in off, def, and special teams
    FPI Saban finished in 2007 48, 46, and 24 in off, def, and special teams
    4- Recruiting, Kirby brought in Fromm, Gibbs, Wilson, Lecounte, Swift.
    Saban brought in the 2008 class Cody, Ingram, Julio Jones, Hightower, a class that won 3 bcs trophies.
    5- Kirby went 8-5 in his first season. This followed a 10 win season from Richt.
    Saban went 7-6 in his first season. This followed a 6 win season from Shula.

    What sticks out are Smart’s better defense and better win total, yet worse with blowouts, poor offense and special teams via fpi rankings.

    I know some say Saban’s team was in worse shape than Kirby’s because Saban had 0 guys NFL drafted in 2008 where Kirby had 1 guy NFL drafted in 2017 so I don’t see the teams as much different, but since Kirby spent 10 years with Saban, they will always be compared to each other.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      To be fair, 2007 was Saban’s 17th year as a head coach. You are contrasting a former NFL and college BCS champion coach with a rookie.

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      • fastcarsslowwomen

        Agree, overall, and excellent point, so far, Kirby compares well in win totals and defense (exceeded expectations compared to Saban’s first year at Bama). Kirby also had a great recruiting class (exceeded expectations there compared to Richt) of course Saban had the 2008 haul G.O.A.T recruiting class but still he’s pretty favorably compared and I think having an 8-5 season helped recruiting like Saban”s 7-6 season did.

        What struck me is looking at how Saban improved in FPI from 2007 to 2008.
        Bama fpi rankings 2007 were 48, 46, and 24. Average team. Overall #41 fpi ranking.
        Bama fpi rankings 2008 were 17, 4, and 23. #6 fpi overall ranking.

        To hang with Saban’s year 2 improvement, Kirby will need to finish
        top 20, top 5 defense, and top 25 special teams.

        Oh and go 12-0 in the regular season.

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        • Mayor

          Gaskilldawg makes an excellent point. Kirby has never been a HC before. That is exactly why he not should have been hired. Kirby should have been the HC at Western Kentucky or Arkansas State first–to see what he is made of–before getting on at a place like Georgia as HC.

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    • MGW

      AJ was better than Julio!

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  12. Macallanlover

    Hoo boy, this is going to generate a lot of responses. I think it is too early to bury Kirby, but there are some troubling issues that are fair reasons for concern at this point, most of which can be minimized with some significant improvement on the field in 2017. I certainly wouldn’t agree he should be ranked behind Boom, Sgt. Carter, or even the Genius at this point. I really hope he proves to be the savior so many had hoped for; we will know a lot more about that by the end of November considering the hand he has been dealt. Winning the East is a minimum accomplishment we should expect when considering the talent, experience, and schedule.

    I will take issue about the Richt comments expressed though. He was much more than just a guy who played for, and was satisfied with delivering East titles and meaningless 10 win seasons. That is both unfair, and inaccurate.
    We won 2 SEC titles, 5 East titles, and UGA was a break away, and in position three different times (2002, 2007, and 2012), for a MNC run in his time here. We were ranked in the Top 10 seven different years, I think, in his 15 year tenure. He was the best UGA coach we have had in my 60 years of being a fan, and represented this university admirably in that time. And he did so in a period when the SEC was at it’s peak, and the media spotlight was unrelenting.

    You can argue that it was a time for a change, and I can understand that reasoning, but he wasn’t a man that settled for anything less than what we all wanted. The group that wanted him out has resorted to hyperbole to justify that position, but it is time to put that to rest. He is gone, but should be recognized for what he did for us without the mudslinging. Let’s hope Kirby takes us another step up the ladder and proves the media perception wrong.

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    • Jeff Sanchez

      “I certainly wouldn’t agree he should be ranked behind Boom, Sgt. Carter, or even the Genius at this point.”

      Why not? Two of those beat him head-to-head, and Muschamp took over a roster in MUCH worse shape (despite UGA’s lack of “talent”) and had them playing solid ball by the end of the season

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      • Macallanlover

        Because I don’t think a one game head to head between the teams is enough info; if you want to put him at the bottom on the basis of that, you do that. There simply isn’t enough data on Kirby to evaluate, but we know what we have with the others. Not saying he may not fit near them when we do know more, I hope not, but I would say put those who have failed at the bottom. Truth is, first year coaches should probably not be ranked, I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt. And I just didn’t see that much going on at SC with Boom to change what I saw in Gainesville for a few seasons.

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    • fastcarsslowwomen

      Mac, Richt was a nice guy and writers like the one who wrote this article loved him, done, he didn’t win the conference after 2005. It was the right move letting him go, he never would have won a championship at Georgia again. He had 11 tries from 2006-2016 and went 0-11.

      The question, to me is, how patient are you with Kirby if he struggles this year and what’s the reference point?
      Compare to Saban’s first year at Bama and it looks like you have the next Nick Saban so far.
      Compared to Will Muschamp’s tenure at UF, looks the same: good on defense, lots of energy, but can’t score on offense and can’t beat rivals.

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      • Greg

        Go back and look to see how often UGA won an SEC title (outright, no shares) prior to Richt. Compare, you’ll see he won it more often on average than the coaches before him. We ain’t Alabama, never will be…not with this administration.

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        • fastcarsslowwomen

          Greg, I didn’t mean to take away anything from what Richt accomplished in 2002 & 2005. That was extraordinary. But he had peaked at Georgia in 2005, that was obvious, and if you want to win championships, going 0-11 from 2006 on isn’t good enough. There are no excuses given the 11 year time frame. But yes, if you want to averaged 10 wins a year, which would be more than enough at some schools, Richt’s your guy. The jury is out on Kirby, but firing Richt was the right move at the wrong time.

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          • Greg

            See your point, and I am really not arguing with you. Mine is, it was won outright on average of every 11.6 years prior to Richt (6 times since ’32). He won on average every 7.5 years, just comparing averages to averages…..and he still won 40 the last 4.

            He also had the #3 class in the country before he was let go, I was of the opinion that he should have had at least another year….he was building. Of course I am hoping for the best, I honestly hope Kirby tears it up….I do not care who the coach is. I’m a dawg first, I just feel
            that the call was made too soon & we have regressed. This year will tell more, I sure as hell hope that I am wrong. Thanks for the civil response….

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            • fastcarsslowwomen

              Richt had gone into self preservation mode–always had a fall guy ready to fall on a sword if things went bad. He had relinquished offensive control to Bobo and Co then defensive control was always out of his hands, but generally in good hands when Van Gorder was there early on, and later with Grantham and Pruitt. No one ever handled special teams under Richt and that came back to haunt him. But ultimately, Richt stuggled vs ranked teams in his last 6 years, so mention WINS is not the issue, record vs ranked teams was Richt’s issue. And Richt’s record vs Florida was not good until before or after Muschamp. So wins over unranked teams, need a higher standard at a school like Georgia than that. Got any idea what Richt’s record was vs ranked teams 2009 on?

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              • Greg

                Most always bring up his record against other teams that were ranked…imo, teams that are ranked ahead of you probably should beat you. With that said….any idea what his record was against teams ranked ahead of him???

                Not just that one year, all coaches have up and down years…My guess is, he did better
                than most in their careers.

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                • fastcarsslowwomen

                  What I’m referring to is Richt’s record vs ranked teams was something like 25-13 his first 7 years, then flip flopped to 14-23 after that. Add on going 5-10 vs UF and 0-10 his last 10 seasons in conference Championships, and that did him in. 37% win % in games was the big thing. Nice guy though, and was terrific against unranked teams.

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                  • Greg

                    I knew what you meant, but none of that means a hill of beans if you can’t break it down. I.E., # 1 Bama plays # 10 Georgia…. that should be a loss by most measures, right??

                    Auburn was a thorn in Dooley’s side….thought Richt handled them well, also GT (only 2 losses). There is always gonna be somebody…unless you are Bama, which we are not.

                    It can be argued, but Richt may have been the best coach Georgia ever had. The argument would be with Dooley who won 3 SEC championships & 1 MNC in 25 years. Richt won 2
                    SEC championships (outright) in 15 years. He also had a better
                    win percent than all before him. Who knows what he would
                    have won if he stayed on. I know he come close a few times. It is all as simple as that…

                    The point is as I mentioned above, I think he was let go at least a season too early….and really, I had no big issue when they did….I just wanted an improvement, an upgrade. IMO, Kirby is not.

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                    • fastcarsslowwomen

                      It was Richt’s last year that sealed it for me, he went 0-2 vs ranked teams and got pasted in 100% of them, lost 1 by 28 to Bama, and the other to UF by 24, wasn’t even competitive.

                      Kirby faced 5 ranked teams in his first season and went 2-3.
                      Got pasted in 20% of the games (by Ole Miss). The 2 wins caught me by surpise over NC Fedora and BCS Champ Chizit there, and then beat a BCS game Head Coach in Gus.

                      40% win % vs ranked teams for Kirby this past season there, his ROOKIE season, and 0% win % for Richt’s last year an experienced 15 year veteran highly respected Head Coach.
                      20% blowout losses vs ranked teams vs 100% blowout losses for Richt.

                      Kirby was a massive upgrade in that regard to Richt (40% vs 0, 20% blowout losses vs 100%).

                      Richt blew both chances to change his destiny.

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                    • Cojones

                      Thought point: UGA was Richt’s first Head-Coaching job. UGA was Smart’s first Head-Coaching job. This, after both had experienced years of servitude under NC caliber coaches as their mentors.

                      Expectations for both the same? Think not, due to the greater expectations of Smart over Richt , all borne from the crowning of a coach by the GOBs instead of an open market hiring. Other coaches would shit bricks to coach at UGA, but the only ones we would have interviewed would be the ones with faulty intel about the GOBs. At that point every eligible coach would have gleaned a hint by the timing of “the hit” on a 15 yr predecessor and would have flushed like quail into an early morning sunrise. Then what would we have done? Why we would have gone out and hired the fastest upcoming non hc in the land – who, as it just so happens, is an alumnus Dawg. win, win, yea.

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  13. Aladawg

    You reap what you sow.

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  14. Shane#1

    IMO when you hire a man you leave him alone and let him do the job. Hire a new coach, give him at last three years. I wouldn’t want to coach at UGA because of the Athletic Dept. and the fan base. Think you can get a better coach than Kirby if you fire him after one year? What successful HC would be crazy enough to take over such a program?

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  15. HVL Dawg

    There’s no question that Kirby was the hottest young coaching prospect on the planet and had been for for several years. I don’t blame McGarity et al for thinking they had a once in a generation chance to hire the red hot assistant and bring him home for decades of football dominance.

    Nick Saban made Kirby keep his mouth shut and kept him out of the spotlight. Now that Kirby talks, we are saying wut?

    The first year record wouldn’t be so worrisome if Kirby didn’t appear …….. stupid.

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    • fastcarsslowwomen

      The AD passed on chances to get Fuentes and Herman, and picked Smart instead. Time will tell if he whiffed or not and chose wrong in going with defense over offense. V Tech put on a clinic on how to do it, grabbing Fuentes an offensive guy and locking in Bud Foster on defense. I guess Chaney was picked as the OC to attract OLine coach Pittman, hope that works out.

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      • slowcarsfastwomen

        It ain’t about “defense over offense.” Saban is a defensive coach and he worked out pretty well didn’t he? It’s about knowing what you’re doing over not knowing what you’re doing. This dope blew 2 games last season with stupid end of game coaching decisions and wants to blame the players for his own screw-ups.

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        • fastcarsslowwomen

          Alabama’s offense was ranked top 10 nationally via fpi 6 years in a row, and top 20 8 years in a row:
          17 in 2008
          6 in 2009
          4 in 2010
          9 in 2011
          2 in 2012
          6 in 2013
          7 in 2014
          16 in 2015

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  16. georgiajeepn

    All this whining here begs a question. If fans are hell bent on comparing Smart to Saban then what would Georgia’s record have been this past year if we had hired Saban instead of Smart? A better question might be what if Tom Herman had been hired?

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    • Aladawg

      10-3 minimum.

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      • georgiajeepn

        Thanks for proving my point.

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        • fastcarsslowwomen

          It’s a hypothetical question, but Kirby went 8-5, but lost 3 games by a total of 5 points, could nave been 11-2 and a top 10 team .

          It should give Georgia fans more substantial hope than anything else. 5 points from 11-2.

          All losses are not the same, the margin of defeat was small for Saban in 2007 and in 3 of those game last season, was even smaller for Kirby.

          From what I understand, Kirby is practicing weekly on the situations that led to those 3 losses. Get those errors fixed, and Kirby’s 2017 season might be magical.

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      • Mayor

        The fundamental act of stupidity that Kirby made last season was to try to play smashmouth football with a finesse OL. Assuming that Tom Herman brought his staff with him intact, Herman never would have done that and would have beaten UT and Vandy and even if he lost to Florida would have won enough games to win the SEC East. 10-4 at worst and possibly 11-3. (I am assuming Georgia would have lost to Bama in the SECCG)

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        • Greg

          Agree, need to work with what you have. Not completely sure he learned from any of it…..Oh well, his ass…..and my team. Nobody asked me, so WTF.

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      • PTCDAWG

        LOL….just a guess…

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  17. The Bruce

    “The top five offered no surprises and little debate”
    Jim Harbaugh at #5?!? Are you effing kidding me?? What in God’s name has Jim Harbaugh done at Michigan that merits him being in the top 10, let alone top 5? NFL wins don’t count in college. Give me a fuckin’ break.

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    • Nashville West

      Suppress your East Coast bias and look at his record at Stanford. Stanford was 1-11 the year before he started. In 3 years they were 11-1 and in the Orange Bowl. He is a real tool but he does know how to win. (A similar statement could also be made about Saban and Corch).

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    • Uglydawg

      I-gree He’s a boisterous poser.

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  18. Shane#1

    I think this blog needs a big glass of Kool- Aid! Nate Mcbride, UGA signee was busy in Albany yesterday. He won the State AAAA 100, 200, 4/100 and 4/400. He ran the anchor leg. That 230lb LB should be a hell of a help on kick coverage teams.

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  19. Uglydawg

    This has been the longest line of bridge jumpers I’ve encountered in quite a while. Kirby will be coaching the Dawgs through this year..we all need to simmer down and watch what happens.

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  20. Irwin R. Fletcher

    I have no clue if it is perception or reality. All I know is that Kirby really only needs to watch his back once the Bobo to Tennessee rumors start. We know how that stirs up the boosters.

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    • Greg

      That would be a nightmare imo….for us.

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      • junkyardawg41

        Snark or not, there is a silver lining to what is going on in the landscape. I don’t think UT would bring Bobo in unless he rocks it out this year (which he might) and Boooch gets fired (which he probably won’t). I do however see a possible scenario where one UGA guy doesn’t get the job done so they bring in another UGA guy. Let’s say CKS doesn’t meet our expectations this year and the 18 recruiting class is top 20 but not top 10. CKS is definitely on the hot seat in 18 — and the team falls apart. If it does, put dollars to donuts that the 36 hour coaching search will be in Fort Collins and no where else. I want CKS to succeed but if he doesn’t there is another D-1 Head Coach in waiting.

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        • Cojones

          Not unless the GOBs are outta here. If you ever saw a secondary target that bunch would have in their sights after Richt, it would be Bobo. Smart man. Went to Ft Collins before the GOBs had a chance to float their coronation act. You say the name “Bobo” around Athens and you may see a few in B-M get a hard -on and not in a nice way.

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        • Mayor

          That would be just another mistake IMHO. I like Bobo, I really do. I think he has ability as a football and will have a good career. But whether or not a coach is a “Georgia Guy” should have no bearing on a hiring decision. That’s what got us Kirby. If there is another vacancy for HC at Georgia (and I sincerely hope that Kirby Smart is successful and there will not be a vacancy) then the decision on whom to hire should be based on hiring the best man for the job–not whatever Georgia Guy we can get.

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  21. I’m sick and tired of the Saban comparisons. Saban had won big at the college level and had had his failed NFL experiment when he came to Alabama. What he did in 2007 has zero correlation to Kirby 2016. Stop making the comparisons unless you’re willing to say a trip to Atlanta in December is the benchmark for 2017. Come to think of it a trip to Atlanta should be the benchmark whether you compare him to Saban or to his predecessor. I have faith the talent is there but have serious reservations about whether the offensive coaching staff can make chicken salad with anything.

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  23. Jared S.

    Still reserving ultimate judgment on CKS until the end of 2018. But that doesn’t mean I’m blind to the trouble-spots. Red flags are everywhere after last season, but I hope most of them are due to a first-year HC learning on the job.

    I expect UGA to be much improved this year all around. And it will show in their overall record. I think we’ll get at least 10 wins this year. But there will still be plenty of frustrating moments – most of them due to our offensive Genius Chaney’s continued misappropriation of his offensive weapons. I hope I’m wrong on that, but the chances of a coach as old and experienced as Chaney suddenly looking different/better from one year to the next is practically zero.

    If this team makes it to the SECCG this year it will be in spite of and not because of their OC.

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  24. Bob

    This constant comparing of Kirby’s first year at Georgia with Saban’s at Alabama is utter nonsense. Saban, as the Senator pointed out, had a tremendous track record at Michigan State and LSU. He inherited a team that had won 28 games over the previous 4 years and was very close to having been given the death penalties for more violations than Russia has tanks. Kirby arrived in Athens and inherited a team that had won 40 games over the previous 4 years. In his first season he managed to lose to three of our 4 biggest rivals, which had not happened since 2000. And the Auburn team he beat had a clearly wounded quarterback.

    I am more than ready to give the guy a chance. But the hyperbole about how Kirby did compared to Saban in their first years is laughable.

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    • dawgman3000

      “And the Auburn team he beat had a clearly wounded quarterback”

      That’s some mighty fine dawgrading there.

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      • MGW

        Some people just can’t enjoy a good thing. We beat Auburn, and it was glorious. If you can’t at least enjoy the big wins scattered throughout the mediocre years you’re in for a long miserable football life.

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  25. MGW

    He’s had one year on the job here, and it was his first year with the title of head coach at any school. The wisdom of firing the guy he took over from was debatable, but the rationale was that we needed a total rebuild. He wasn’t hired to come in here looking for creative ways to maximize whatever talent was on the roster like a Paul Johnson or a Mike Leach type. We pointed to Alabama and said “build us one of those.” Was that the best plan for Georgia? Who knows? It’s failed plenty of times before at plenty of other schools who have hired from the Saban coaching tree, yet Saban remains steadfast in his ways and remains perched right on top of the Football World with his foot on our heads. So people keep doing it. Of the schools with the resources to legitimately take a swing at it, we’re certainly one of them, so we’ll see. But we all knew it would take more than one year (whether or not we agreed with it) and here we are. It is way, way to early to tell whether Smart will succeed or fail, much less whether he has already succeeded or failed.

    To try to compare him to some ace play caller or some proven head coach based on one year is a waste of time. To put any weight on the opinions of some panel of CBS writers is plain dumb.

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    • Cojones

      Of course it’s dumb. We should hold the GOBs responsible for everything at the end of the season and demand they keep their influencing hands off our team. That’s correct; if we have a good season, they should get credit right along with Smart, Chaney, et al and if the season is not so good, then the GOBs should be ridden out on a rail while the AD and others try to right the ship.

      C’mon, folks, we have a team full of right-minded and good Dawgs who need to showcase their stuff on the field. They are our team and we should be fighting for their futures as part of the team and making their decision to belong to it meaningful to their lives.

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