Today, in what could go wrong?

Jere Morehead just passed along the official statement from the University System Chancellor regarding the new campus carry law.  Key language:

… Even license-holders may not carry a handgun into the following locations on college/university-owned or leased property:

  • Buildings and property used for athletic sporting events.  This exception includes stadiums, gymnasiums and similar facilities in which intercollegiate games are staged (but does not extend to so-called “tailgating” areas where fans may congregate outside the gates of the sports facility)…  [Emphasis added.]

Stay wary, my friends.  Especially after a long day of drinking.

So, who will be the first to offer Bulldog-themed bullet-proof vests?  Could be a big seller.

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57 responses to “Today, in what could go wrong?

  1. hassan

    Bulldog Kevlar in University of Georgia Tartan by Peter Millar. Keep an eye out for the full page ad in Garden and Gun magazine.

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  2. Walt

    What friggin’ idiot thinks this law is in any way a good idea. Bunch of cowards.

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  3. AusDawg85

    There’s more money in selling UGA themed ammo.

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  4. Cousin Eddie

    I can see the headlines now, ” Dawg shoots Cock, highlights at 11.”

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  5. Otto

    Just surprised the click baiters at the AJC haven’t accused CKS of having legislatures change the rules to reduce arrests.

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  6. HVL Dawg

    I’m assuming it is illegal to squeeze off a few celebratory clips after a great victory.

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  7. just sayin

    I was ambivalent to negative on campus carry and then heard about another campus robbery at the trade school. None of my 4 were engineer material, but I’d be all for campus carry with a child at Ga Tech.

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    • Cousin Eddie

      But the area surrounding GA tech is a little higher crime rate than in Athens, just in general, correct? So it should be mandatory to carry a gun at tech.

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      • JCDAWG83

        There are plenty of areas very close to campus where you wouldn’t want to be without a gun. Athens has one of the highest per capita concentrations of public housing in Georgia. There are a lot of “urban youth” within a one mile radius of campus who have no problem preying on students and anyone else they see as an easy mark.

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        • Spence

          We all know you meant black kids when you say “urban youth” and I don’t see why the existence of public housing near the campus affects whether you can or should carry at a tailgate. Your post is inflammatory.

          Further, your statement that these black kids are “preying” on students and anyone else they see as an easy mark is just plain prejudicial stereotyping. I graduated 15+ years ago and am a season ticket holder, and I don’t hear anyone complaining about robberies or any other instances of being “preyed” upon by “urban youth” on any regular basis, certainly not enough so to warrant carrying to protect yourself. Athens is a gem and a safe place.

          Your post, basically, is that there’s poor black kids near campus so carry a gun, just in case. I find this untethered to reality, dangerous, and, frankly, very prejudiced.

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        • Spence

          alternative take on my last post – don’t go into the projects and you’ll be fine.

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        • There are plenty of areas very close to campus where you wouldn’t want to be without a gun. Athens has one of the highest per capita concentrations of public housing in Georgia. There are a lot of “urban youth” within a one mile radius of campus who have no problem preying on students and anyone else they see as an easy mark.

          Oh, brother.

          Nice use of scare quotes around urban youth.

          Don’t forget to defend your comment by telling us that some of your best friends are black.

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        • Herschel Talker

          I lived in the “Iron Triangle”(within biking distance of campus and downtown)/ my last 3 years in Athens in a house full of white guys. We had a break-in and the occasional crack whore asking for $2, but for every bad incident, I can think of ten instances of neighbors inviting us over for BBQ, discounts on their in-garage barbershop, and helping us fix broken down cars. I’m not naïve enough to believe crime doesn’t exist, but seeing poor areas as a monolith is just silly.

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          • Normaltown Mike

            I met an older black man that lived in the triangle and he shared with me how some white guy moved into his neighborhood and SOLD his car so that he could BUY a bicycle!

            He was beyond flummoxed but it always makes me chuckle on the different perspectives of folks.

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      • Are your referring to the City of Atlanta or immediate area around Ga Tech which is undergoing one of the most startling examples of urban renewal in the country? I mean I must have missed all of the roving gangs of criminals hanging out on Marietta Street while I was distracted by the steady line of $100K foreign automobiles lined up for valet service at The Optimist, or Bocado and Bartaco. I am surprised that companies like Chick-fil-A and CookOut would invest millions of dollars in new outposts of their restaurants on Northside Dr. right next to the recently renovated Burger King and McDonalds just steps from the crime ridden GaTech campus. I keep hearing that no one ever visits the College Football Hall of Fame or the World of Coke or the GA Aquarium or the Civil Rights Museum (all within walking distance of Ga Tech) due to high volume of crime. Last time I went to Atlantic Station, I thought I was in a war zone. Westside Provisions district? So much like favela.

        Ga Tech must regularly be at the top of the list of most dangerous college campuses in America right? Probably 2 spots higher than Athens.

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        • just sayin

          What are you the fucking pres of the Chamber of Commerce? I understand the concept of urban renewal, as I have 2 grown children who don’t seem to mind gridlock and live near Oakland Cemetery. If they choose, they can carry a weapon or not. Why should my law abiding 21 year old not be afforded that right, particularly on the Ga tech campus where the incidences of violence and robbery are well documented?

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          • Because the incidences of violence are not well documented just sayin. You know how many violent non-sexual crimes Ga Tech has per 1000 students? Less than 1 per 1000 you dumbass.

            Also I never said that your precious snowflakes couldn’t carry, I just challenged your fucking evidence of violence on the Tech campus. If the Tech campus and the area surrounding it was so violent you there wouldn’t be all of the growth but on and off campus. BTW, the area is going to keep on getting better given the level of investment for the Benz,

            I had dozens of friends who went to Tech in the late 80’s/early 90’s (when the crime rate in Atlanta was far worse than it is now) and I can count on one finger the number of them who were victims of a violent crime.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Since 66% of gun deaths are suicides, your 4 kids are far, far more likely to shoot or kill themselves than a crook. Any reputable security professional would instruct your kids to simply give the robber what he/she wants, rather than escalate the situation to a life or death struggle. The idea that a college kid is prepared to use a gun appropriately in a robbery situation is laughable, and probability extremely remote. But I guess that’s exactly why gun makers spend so many millions promoting their product, and exactly what they want you to believe.

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  8. Why wait in line to ring the chapel bell after a win? Now you can just take aim.

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  9. Hogbody Spradlin

    Alcohol and guns. They go together like, hmm, gasoline and matches.

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    • Cojones

      I can just visualize the little brainy Martians in front pf him going “Aac-ac-ac-aaac- … … … “. Right out of the movie and all we need is Jack Nicholson in a cowboy hat.

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  10. Comin' Down The Track

    So, explain to me again why my officially licensed stadium seat is now prohibited because it has a back. Oh, wait… it’s a money grab isn’t it?

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  11. DawgPhan

    Pretty sure there are already a lot of handguns in the trucks and cars at the tailgates. You could probably draw caliber and maker from a hat and turn up that gun from any tailgate on campus.

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  12. Rushton Allen

    Set the over/under for an unlawful shooting by a concealed carry permit holder at a UGA tailgate over the next five years at 0.5. I’ll take the under.

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  13. Macallanlover

    Seems a perfectly logical interpretation to me, don’t understand why that would upset anyone. I also don’t think that law, or the statement from UGA, will change anything at all for almost every fan coming to games. Those who carry guns as a matter of routine, or for trips, would most likely already have a gun in their car, and few would take them into the stadium or arena.

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    • Cojones

      As long as you put up a tall sign that says “Mac – Gun!” above your tailgate site, with a finger pointing down to your location, I welcome your carry. I’ll be the guy whose wife is carrying a sign above me with a finger pointing up that says “Shoots Blanks!”

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  14. doofusdawg

    The fact is that if there were any crimes committed by legal carry folks in public places or due to alcohol… it would be Front Page News.

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  15. Jim

    You people do realize that there is NO SUCH THING as LEGAL carry (open, concealed, licensed or not) when the carrier has alcohol in their system, right?

    So the moment someone is carrying and consuming alcohol at their tailgate, they are committing a serious crime and if cited, will have their carry permit revoked along with criminal charges filed

    Honestly I’m not the least bit worried about the people carrying legally. It’s those that pack heat illegally that should be the concern. And those people probably weren’t paying attention to campus carry laws before or now

    Most people who are ignorant about firearms laws assume that every drunk red neck is somehow now going to be able to legally carry a firearm. That is simply not true

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    • dawgfan

      Exactly. I’m more concerned about the drunk getting behind the wheel of a 2 ton bullet.

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    • That would be a good point if it were true. Some states have no laws on this. Some use the same limit as driving .08%. Some say you can be higher with a gun than for the purpose of driving. Some say any alcohol and they can take your gun. Some simply say “drunk” or “under the influence” which isn’t the same as the moment you taste beer. Georgia falls in the last category I believe. You can drink, you just can’t be “under the influence” whatever that means.

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    • Huntindawg

      “Honestly I’m not the least bit worried about the people carrying legally. It’s those that pack heat illegally that should be the concern. And those people probably weren’t paying attention to campus carry laws before or now”

      Right on the money.

      With crowd drawing events becoming more of a target, I would be in the group that would want more people around carrying legally.

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  16. dawgfan

    Anybody have any stats on gun related crimes committed in Georgia by individuals licensed to carry? Just curious.

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    • Cojones

      You might mine records during hard segregation times for records at the Sheriffs’ offices throughout 155 counties.

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  17. Ricky McDurden

    The thing is, it’s a dumb law not for what it allows but for all of the restrictions that come with it. What’s even the point? You can’t conceal and carry into a sporting event facility. You can’t conceal and carry into any faculty or staff offices. And while you can conceal and carry into classrooms, you are supposed to first check to insure that no high school students are taking or sitting in on the course (or else you can be cited).

    So, basically, this law allows anyone that just happens to be walking through campus to conceal and carry. But if while on campus you plan on going to class, visiting a professor or staff member, or going into a football, basketball, baseball, etc game then you might as well leave it at home or in the car.

    It’s like they passed it to appease gun lobbyists while trying to not piss off all the anti-gun folks at the same time…

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  18. Napoleon BonerFart

    Are people likely to shoot others really the kind of folks who obey the letter of the law of where and when to carry? I’ve got to be honest. I would feel less at ease in jail, where weapons are prohibited, than with some armed Georgia fans in Athens.

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    • Spence

      The standard is if you’d feel more at ease than if you were in jail? Wow, that bar is low.

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      • Napoleon BonerFart

        You missed the point. From the perspective of gun control advocates, jail should be the safest place in the world, no? Jails don’t just rely on signs saying, “No weapons, please.” Jails invasively search every person to eliminate all weapons. And yet, they still exist in prison.

        But changing a sign in a tailgating parking lot from, “No weapons, please,” to “Legal carry only, please” somehow strikes terror into the heart of these shrinking violets. I never thought of myself as particularly macho, but I just can’t get worked up to be as scared as some of you.

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        • Cojones

          You may want to read up on Hernandez’s experience in jail. That’s a lot of fights with people looking for your ass while in jail.

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          • Napoleon BonerFart

            In defiance of policies and regulations limiting weapons and violence? Inconceivable!!

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  19. I’ve already been carrying legally since 86’…it’s funny that now there is some publicity that has made the law more…”visible.” You would have been amazed at the number of your fellow fans/classmates that have already been carrying over the last twenty plus years,

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    • If they were carrying on campus before this law was passed, they weren’t compliant with school policy. This is supposed to reassure me?

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      • Napoleon BonerFart

        Sure. Why not? Two types of people carry guns. Those who do it for self defense and those who do it to threaten harm to others (criminals). And criminals aren’t very likely to care about school policy.

        I routinely carry in areas where I’m not supposed to. I don’t worry about it. I understand that the odds of my needing a weapon in self defense are very long. But if I do, the knowledge that I will be harmed while abiding by school policy just isn’t very reassuring. If I ever need to fire my weapon in self defense, I certainly won’t mind getting a ticket for failing to abide by a policy that intends to make me more vulnerable than I need be. But I am glad that the law is being changed to prevent me from getting the ticket.

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        • Cojones

          Don’t we have a police dept. on campus? Your excuse for self defense would extend to everyday life everywhere we have policing depts. and that would mean you are waiting to protect yourself from an invading army. Nice.

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          • Napoleon BonerFart

            Sure. There’s a police department. But they tend to be concentrated at the stadium, rather than around tailgating spots. But yes, if you’re in a life-threatening situation, you can certainly call the police, who will come out and draw a nice chalk outline around your body, if that makes you feel better.

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        • Two types of people carry guns. Those who do it for self defense and those who do it to threaten harm to others (criminals). And criminals aren’t very likely to care about school policy.

          Overly simplistic, in my view. Some carry out of ego or insecurity, which is different from legit self-defense.

          Sorry, but I’ve seen way too much carelessness with weapons over the years to be as assured about them as you are.

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          • DawgPhan

            Agreed, too many people dont treat guns with the care and concern that they deserve.

            Georgia leads the country in toddlers shooting people. How does that happen if gun owners are the responsible owners that they want you to believe they all are.

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            • Napoleon BonerFart

              For the record, I’m against toddlers carrying guns. That should definitely be illegal. I don’t know why it’s not already.

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  20. Dog in Fla

    Show me your guns

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  21. vectordawg

    If there is one fan base with guns I’d be afraid to tailgate with, it’d be this one.

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