The good, the bad and the Fromm

After watching Eason’s season go by the wayside, at least for the time being, any preseason hopes I had for Georgia making a statement out of the Notre Dame game have quickly morphed into a mundane hope for mere survival.  I don’t mean that as a knock on Jake Fromm, but asking a true freshman quarterback to use his first start on the road in front of Gawd and a national television audience to make a statement isn’t realistic.

I’ve watched the opener live and on replay now, and the good thing is that I haven’t lost hope for Georgia to emerge victorious.  Far from it.  Fromm goes in to South Bend with a few things that Eason didn’t have last season:  a healthy Nick Chubb, some promise on the offensive line, an emerging weapon in Javon Wims, a defense that is deeper, faster and better grounded in mechanics and, amazingly, special teams that are not a liability.

Fair to say, then, Fromm goes to Notre Dame with the knowledge that he doesn’t have to carry his team on his shoulders.  That’s a big deal.  The question is, how realistic is it to count on a true freshman quarterback to be a game manager against a talented defense?

For me, the answer is, it’s not that crazy.  It’s worth noting again that Chaney did an excellent job managing the offense after Eason’s departure.  Fromm only had to throw fifteen times during the game and got to spend a decent amount of time under center.  The passing game was simplified, as most of what Fromm was asked to do came off simple three-step drops and single reads.  Fromm did well with what he was required to do, too.

This week is all about polishing his game, at least as much as can be done in just a few days.  I don’t know if Tuberville was overstating the case when he said that Fromm only knows about half the playbook, but there’s no way the kid’s got everything down cold in time for Saturday.  That’s not doom in and of itself, but if Chubb and Michel can’t make headway in the running game, it’s not ideal, either.

My other concern comes from one of Fromm’s strengths on display against ASU.  He wasn’t overwhelmed by the occasion, to say the least.  Quite the contrary, at times he seemed a little too sure of himself.  He didn’t throw an interception, but he certainly deserved to on a few plays.  If he’s going to be part of the plan to beat Notre Dame, he’s got to find the fine line between avoiding being too conservative and turning the ball over by being too aggressive.  Weirdly enough, I’m looking forward to finding out if he’s got it in him to hit the sweet spot.

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  1. Just Chuck (The Other One)

    Think you mentioned it below but, what really impressed me about Fromm was how quickly the ball came out on passing plays. I realize some of that was running plays with a single read but it sure made him look decisive.

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    • Greg

      yep…does not hold the ball long. thinks he is more of a “rhythm passer”….all the more reason he reminds me of AM.

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    • This was also a function of Chaney calling a decent game for Fromm (I know no one wants to credit Chaney for anything, but still…). I also think Fromm was at time a bit too quick to let go of it, but better than the other way around. I’m very intrigued to see what he does with a week to prepare knowing he’s the man at QB. It’s a different animal coming off of the bench compared to knowing you’re getting the call.

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      • dawgtired

        “It’s a different animal coming off of the bench compared to knowing you’re getting the call.”

        Reps upon reps would be great this week for Fromm. He didn’t have time to think about the Appy St. game since he got threw into it. He will have time to think this week about the ‘show’ he will be stepping into. I hope people are correct in saying the ‘big scene’ doesn’t bother him…well, maybe just enough to keep him cautious. If we can avoid the ‘shock’ in South Bend early on, we’ll have a chance to settle down and compete as the game goes on.
        I am curious though…we’ve noted that Chaney ‘called a good game for Fromm’…what’s going on the Eason and Chaney? Is Eason just tight? Can Chaney call a ‘easier’ game for Eason? Does Eason have too much to think about? Can we slim it down like Fromm’s game and Eason do better? Eason is coming back at some point and I would like to think he can bring a complementary passing game to our run threat.
        Another question…who get’s the most reps in practice…Ramsey or Eason (if Eason CAN practice)? Ramsey is the backup right now but Eason will be coming back. I’ll hang up a listen now.

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        • I think Eason plays scared and wants to avoid the INT.

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          • Russ

            Eason reminds me of Murray at the same stage in that he seems to get amped up to start a game, which results in high throws. Murray used to do it, and Eason seems to have it. The injury sucks for a lot of reasons, but mainly because the game time could have helped him settle down.

            Fromm obviously wasn’t phased by App State. Like others have said, having a week to think about your first start occurring in South Bend could be a bad thing. The flip side is that Fromm is such a cool customer, I’m worried he can be baited into mistakes. It’s a near certainty that a freshman is going to make mistakes, I just hope we can recover. A strong defense will really help with that.

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        • willypmd

          Eason either doesn’t know the offense, can’t read the defense, or doesn’t have the chops to pull the trigger. All 3 can be learned over time in my opinion, but we were going to be a defense/ST/running game type of team regardless of who is under center

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          • hailtogeorgia

            That’s a pretty damning observation based on ~10 plays. I’m not saying he looked at all comfortable out there, but there’s a sample size issue. We’ll never know if he would’ve settled down because Myquon Stout decided to be a dick.

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  2. Jared S.

    Another thing that worries me about Fromm is how I keep hearing/reading that he’s so cool and that no moment is too big for him. Well, getting thrown unexpectedly into a home game against a clearly inferior opponent is one thing…. But, as you’ve alluded to, having all week to think about getting your first college start AT South Bend is something different entirely….

    If Fromm can come out an look as composed and in command this Saturday as he was last Saturday I will be truly impressed.

    I honestly think he’ll play a great game. I expect he might throw one or two interceptions, but I think his play overall will be good enough to manage the offense effectively. That coupled with our D, which I expect to play lights-out, will get us the W.

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    • Charles

      “Well, getting thrown unexpectedly into a home game against a clearly inferior opponent is one thing…. But, as you’ve alluded to, having all week to think about getting your first college start AT South Bend is something different entirely….”

      That’s a really good observation. Hopefully first team reps will ease the nerves a bit. Hopefully…

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  3. Starbreaker

    My concern is 1) when ND shuts down the first quick read, perhaps zone coverage to shut down the slants, coupled with 2) if our WRs continue have trouble getting open downfield. If those two things happen and our interior OL struggles (again) to push for Chubb/Michel, it could be a rough day for anyone one, much less a frosh QB. I do really like everything I’m hearing about Fromm and he looked solid mechanically in the pocket.

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  4. Derek

    He’s gotta learn two things this week:

    Don’t “bird dog” the receiver
    Don’t turn a bad play into a disaster

    If he can manage those two I think we’ll be ok. They are going to try to put us in obvious passing downs and show exotic coverages and blitzes. Some plays won’t go well. Just protect the damn ball, field position and live to fight again.

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  5. Greg

    Fair synopsis….me thinks that he has a horseshoe up his azz, lives for a moment like this. No doubt he will make some mistakes, but win or lose…the game experience will be great for him. A tough situation for any freshman to go into….but my guess is, he will do better than most (freshman). A healthy Eason and more experienced Fromm, makes a stronger team as the season goes on.

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  6. Scorpio Jones, III

    “It’s worth noting again that Chaney did an excellent job managing the offense after Eason’s departure.”

    Interesting how smart Chaney got when he lost Eason.

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  7. PTC DAWG

    Just get out of there healthy….

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  8. Hillbilly Dawg

    Let me simplify things for ya Senator;
    That’s the girl we’re taking to the dance and that’s the girl we’re gunna dance with. Just need to make sure that’s who we leave with too!

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  9. 3rdandGrantham

    The good news this week I’d he shouldn’t have to worry about a deafening crowd, as ND stadium isn’t all that loud. Plus, with 15k+ Dawg fans in the stadium, we now are talking about 60k ND fans to worry about, which is a far cry from many SEC environments.

    I predicted a loss in the preseason and I’m certainly holding true to that now. With that said, in a sense I feel like the pressure is off, as it’s a non-SEC game in the beginning of the season, in which everyone knows we are going in there with a true freshman QB. Of course, if we win, boy will that ever set us up nicely the rest of the way while totally deflating ND in the process.

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  10. Apparently, I’m less worried than most. We’ve started a lot of freshmen QBs over thre years and I can’t recall them costing us. Of course, they were under a different staff so who knows.

    Folks who like to nitpick have called Fromm on rainbows passes, which is fair. It’s also fair to assess that the kid seems to be yet another young QB with a good, calm head. Fromm threw those rainbows because they were there to be thrown, not because he forced them. I expect him to make mistakes but I also think he’s smart enough to know when to not throw those. Also, being an EE may be a godsend.

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    • Got Cowdog

      Watch the replay. His passes weren’t as rainbowy as they looked. Worst pass I saw him throw was to Wims (I think) where he threw it too far in front of him. A little less lead and the receiver could have made the cut upfield, instead his momentum carried him out of bounds. Fromm “Has it in his eyes”, as Got Sr. would say.

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      • Biggus Rickus

        The touchdown to Wims was a terrible decision and throw. The safety misplayed his coverage, but normally the best case in that situation is an incompletion. I thought he handled himself well, and I’m sure he’ll stop throwing lollipops off his back foot eventually, but ideally, he wouldn’t be starting right now. He may cost them a game if he keeps making throws like that.

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        • WF Dawg

          I’ve been thinking about the Wims TD b/c it’s been criticized as a bad decision by Fromm. Maybe it was, but is it also possible that he saw the DBs out of position and for that reason threw it where he did? FWIW, I’m not ready yet to defend the ball that Swift one-handed. That one just seemed like a bad decision.

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          • Biggus Rickus

            I’m actually more forgiving of the Swift play, because I think he was trying to throw it away but couldn’t get enough on it off his back foot. If he was trying to complete it, though, that’s another matter.

            I can’t imagine he was able to recognize people were out of position in coverage on that Wims play, but anything is possible.

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            • WF Dawg

              Yeah, I think he was trying to throw it OOB on the Swift play. But a sideline lob around the LOS is even more dangerous than a jump ball downfield because if it’s picked, it can easily go for 6. He’s either got to be sure he gets that ball OOB or eat it. Still, for his first collegiate game action, I can absolutely live with Fromm’s day last Saturday.

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          • Greg

            He put it where only Wims could get it…looked good 2 me.

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          • Southernlawyer11

            Agreed on the Wims TD not being an awful decision. We complain about the production in this offense, but then aren’t ready to take chances ? I’m fine with calculated jump balls to our huge tight ends and other players that are in a position to force nothing worse than an incompletion. Hell, when we got drubbed by ole miss last season, half of their damn throws were of that variety. This is called letting your playmakers make plays. If we insist on taking absolutely ZERO chances, boring, vanilla and not enough is going to always be the result.

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            • Biggus Rickus

              Taking chances in one-on-one situations is entirely different from taking chances on posts bracketed by a cornerback and safety. Yeah, it might work out one out of twenty times, but it will be intercepted far more often. I think the people excusing the play are wearing Fromm-colored glasses, to butcher a metaphor.

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            • Greg

              2 defenders in back about 5′ 9″, Wims in front at about 6’4″…and one defender in front about 3-5 yards off. Fromm put the ball where only Wims could get it. Didn’t think that initially, thought it was a bad throw. But looking at it again, changed my mind. Low risk, high reward pass…can’t blame the player on that. All TD’s luck good to me….luck or not.

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      • Kdawg

        I noticed this too. He has better touch and when he needs to gun one in he can.

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  11. Jared S.

    Has anyone thought to teach Eason how to slide like Peyton? Just wondering….

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    • Greg

      Usually, they do not teach to slide when out of bounds, only on the playing field…if that is the play you are talking about. Unfortunate play, don’t feel that is was intentional.

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      • Jared S.

        I guess I was thinking he shouldn’t have been running to the sideline. He should have run forward and slid.

        I think back to something the Senator posted about Nick Chubb indicating he’ll be much less likely to run toward the sideline in the future. Gets me thinking if maybe running forward (and sliding) isn’t also a safer bet for QBs.

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        • Southernlawyer11

          Did anybody see Wims come up gimpy on a similar OOB deceleration after a catch ? The deceleration and the digging in of the cleats when running OOB seems very dangerous IMO.

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          • Jared S.

            Yeah. Don’t pull up. Just run the sideline peeps over. Ha.

            But seriously, yeah. I didn’t notice Wims, but it definitely seems like Eason got hurt as he slowed down (and was pushed).

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          • hailtogeorgia

            He didn’t get hurt on the deceleration, he got hurt when he was pushed sideways on a knee that was bearing weight at the time. If there’s no push, there’s no issue.

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    • South FL Dawg

      He just needed to get out of bounds sooner. The extra couple of yards is meaningless if you’re a passing quarterback. That said, it looked like the contact from the defender was intentional.

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  12. I’m more worried about his OL protecting him and his WRs helping him out. I also hope Chaney can find the right balance between giving him too much and too little. It would also be nice if Fromm has made a good connection with the TEs like Eason has.

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  13. Jack Burton

    “The passing game was simplified, as most of what Fromm was asked to do came off simple three-step drops and single reads”

    These type comments have been my favorite to read in the aftermath of the game.

    Eason, and Lambert before him, struggles with these simple 3 step drop quick passes. It’s what shut our offense down 2 years ago, last year and at the beginning of the App St game. Hell, the play he hurt himself on should’ve been a completion or a throwaway. Never should he have found himself in the situation he did. Indecisiveness is gone at the QB position. Thank god. I’ll trade a few interceptions for a competent, rhythmic offense. There is nothing worse than a QB who holds the ball too long.

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    • They expect their quarterbacks to go through reads and progressions. Eason, like it or not, was doing what he was coached to do before he got hurt.

      You want to know what my favorite comments are in the aftermath of the game? People acting like Fromm is already a finished product.

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      • Greg

        Neither Fromm or Eason are imo, long way to go.

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      • CB

        No qb is coached to hold the ball that long. Not unless he has a bad coach.

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        • Whatever. When you don’t have an open receiver, shit happens.

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          • CB

            When you don’t have an open receiver you throw the ball away, or you throw somebody open, especially if you have an NFL arm.

            I don’t think anybody is viewing Fromm as a finished product. I think they were just excited to see somebody enter the game who could competently string completions together. Something that hasn’t happened since 2013.
            His youth and the prospect of him only getting better makes him even more appealing.

            Now, who knows how he will perform going forward against teams with actual talent. He clearly doesn’t have Eason’s arm, but more importantly he does appear to have superior accuracy over Eason. I’d love to beat ND just as much as anyone else, but I won’t lose much sleep if we take our lumps and rebound to win the East. I still believe that is a realistic goal especially after watching Tennessee and Florida.

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            • Nobody sees Fromm as a finished product? “Indecisiveness is gone at the QB position” sure sounds pretty definitive to me.

              As far as your point about competently stringing completions together goes, Mason set the school completion percentage record in 2014 and Lambert set an NCAA single-game record against South Carolina the following year.

              I like Fromm, but I’m not ready to put myself out there like a lot of you are after only one game against a Sun Belt opponent.

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              • Greg

                Both of those guys had pretty good won/loss records.

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              • CB

                Are “decisiveness” and “unpolished with a lot to learn” mutually exclusive? I don’t know anything about wine, but I can decide what want pretty quick.

                Lambert had been benched at a part middlin ACC school so the writing was already on the wall, and Mason’s most impactful completion of his career was the int that cost us the Tech game (I could say the same for Eason if it weren’t for the Mizzou TD).

                Basically, Fromm hasn’t given us any reason not to believe in him yet. As such people are hopeful, especially after Eason came out looking terrible against a Sun Belt team. Will our hopes get dashed? Yeah probably, this is Georgia football after all.

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                • Are “decisiveness” and “unpolished with a lot to learn” mutually exclusive?

                  In the context of a one-game sample size? Seriously?

                  Lambert had been benched at a part middlin ACC school so the writing was already on the wall, and Mason’s most impactful completion of his career was the int that cost us the Tech game (I could say the same for Eason if it weren’t for the Mizzou TD).

                  The point was both accomplished what they did after your 2013 deadline. Moving the goalposts like this doesn’t change the flaw of your initial point.

                  Nobody’s gonna rain on your parade this week, it seems.

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                • CB

                  And nobody is going to keep you from having that second bowl of piss and cornflakes. I’m not interested in getting into a semantically argument with you. Lambert and Mason weren’t guys that could be relied on to win you big games Period. Idk if Fromm is, but I’m hopeful every time the position turns over that we can get that guy.

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                • UGA85

                  I completely agree. Why try to pick a fight with some exhuberant fans? When did that become a thing? Why not enjoy the obvious: a true freshman stepped in and looked quick and decisive and very much like a leader. That’s it. And liking what Fromm did does not have to be perceived as a put down for Eason, foolish optimism, and the like.

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                • Gosh, it’s almost like some exuberant fans haven’t bothered to read my post.

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                • Lambert and Mason weren’t guys that could be relied on to win you big games Period.

                  Again, what does that have to do with your initial point about not having a quarterback who was reliable with completions since 2013?

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                • CB

                  I assumed the caveat that the consistent completions would come from a quarterback with actual talent would go without saying, but apparently it’s semantics Tuesday. I’m just happy to be here lol.

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                • Sounds like it’s more “last word Tuesday” for you.

                  Sorry I can’t read your mind.

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                • CB

                  I always know it’s football season when I find myself engaging the Senator in debate. Glad we’re back guys, it was a long off season lol.

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                • “Nobody’s gonna rain on your parade this week.” You are doing a pretty good job. You replaced the word Ugly with Fromm in your header in case you forgot. We all know that we are better off in South Bend with a hot handed, god-gifted, SEC tested QB…..but that ain’t happening. Let me enjoy my Fromm Kool-Aid dammit. I gotta watch Saturday’s game with my 18 year old daughter’s boyfriend who loves Notre Dame, and to make matters worse, I have been talking smack for weeks. Somebody tell me it’s gonna be OK.

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                • Let me enjoy my Fromm Kool-Aid dammit.

                  Who’s stopping you?

                  I’ll be in South Bend, so if you think I’m expecting Fromm to flop, you’re another one who’s misunderstood my post.

                  I wonder how many of you quaffing the Fromm Kool-Aid have been quick to dump on other commenters here for drinking different flavors. Oh, I know — that’s different.

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                • Greg

                  Cautiously optimistic…..

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                • Southernlawyer11

                  Lawyers gonna lawyer (argue). Shake it off. I’m all in on the Kool-Aid as well my friend. I saw someone on Saturday that looked, swam and quacked like the last duck we had that wore #11.

                  Maybe that’s what CB means by “since 2013.”

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                • CB

                  Thank you, I thought I had accidentally commented in some sort of language that the Senator doesn’t speak.

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        • Greg

          Agree….none that I know of.

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      • PTC DAWG

        Agree, it’s laughable…

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      • Got Cowdog

        I’m likely one of those you speak of. He’s not a finished product by any means, but I was impressed by his performance. Do I think he’s better than Eason? I can’t say that, Eason only had about 8 plays. I liked the way the team as a whole responded to the situation. I’m encouraged by what I saw. I still have a major pucker factor going into South Bend, and MSU just got a lot scarier to me.

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        • Actually, no.

          Look, it’s fine to be excited by Fromm. I was rocking and rolling with the crowd at Sanford when the offense finally kicked in. I simply realize there’s a limit on what you can expect from a true freshman quarterback.

          Funny how everyone’s forgotten that Eason finished with a passer rating of 185.87 in last year’s opener. I’m just glad the Dawgs have two talented QBs on the roster for a change.

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      • Jack Burton

        Wow. That’s a good one too. I haven’t read that anywhere but it doesn’t surprise me it might be out there.

        Quick decision making (after going through the reads and progressions obviously) is one of the areas I was hoping to see Eason make massive improvement. Guess we will have to wait and see. G-Day and first few series of the season didn’t look too different.

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    • Greg

      All good points, Jack…read an article yesterday that said that Fromm knew all of the playbook, good read:

      https://uga.rivals.com/news/in-fromm-the-dawgs-trust

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      • Dog in Fla

        “Football junkie and film rat are other ways Fromm has been described.”

        Besides addiction and rodentia, they left out the two other ways:
        blue-collar and brings his own lunch pail

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  14. Cojones

    Hope for his sake that he isn’t on pins and needles as the fans are when watching. Buckle up, folks, he needs our support, so drop the worry beads and try to cheer him towards an aggressive game mood that’s most needed against ND.

    Has everyone forgotten that he has two feet to escape pressure and force ND to defend another guy on the field? Play-action has to be the name of the practice game this week and if those receivers keep up their aerial derring-do as we saw in the App game, then we have some treats coming our way. Here’s hoping Chaney doesn’t play “safe” football with another Freshman.

    Get after their butts and show ND where you come from, Dawgs!

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  15. DawgPhan

    It makes a great story if we get the W and sets up the next big game. If we lose, then get back to work and win the next one.

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  16. DawgFlan

    I don’t know if it was a coincidence or just faulty memory, but weren’t many of the second string RBs and WRs in on the first few Fromm plays? It struck me as smart at the time given those were the players From likely repped with the most during the week.

    I sure am excited to see what Fromm does with Riley back plus a full week of 1st string reps. A lot of good points made by both the Fromm koolaid drinkers (here’s looking at you Greg) as well as the more cautious commenters, it will be an interesting game for sure.

    The best part is, win or lose it doesn’t affect our goals for the year. More than anything just wanting a good game and no more injuries.

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    • Greg

      No Kool-Aid, “cautiously optimistic”….been a couple of years since I’ve seen a QB get the ball to his playmakers. 31 points in 3 qtrs….how long has it been since that happened??? …..and the fellow came in unexpectedly off the bench. Not bad for a freshman, don’t care who the opponent is.

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      • ….how long has it been since that happened??? …..and the fellow came in unexpectedly off the bench. Not bad for a freshman, don’t care who the opponent is.

        Some of you guys really crack me up. Eason was 8-12 in that game and averaged almost 11 ypa.

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        • Greg

          I believe the question was….how long has it been when a QB helped put up 31 points in 3 qtrs (not 4). The game you linked, Lambert also played in…1 TD I know he was in there, maybe 2. Not sure exactly when Eason came in. Irregardless, look at the remainder of the year…..it’s been a LONG time.

          What cracks me up is someone trying to prove that you are wrong. None of this for me is about Eason versus Fromm, just excited to see someone move the team…Fromm did.

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          • Eason rallied the team from ten down in the second half against a ranked P5 opponent. I can see how that doesn’t measure up to pounding Appy State.

            It’s not a question of Eason vs. Fromm, or at least it shouldn’t be. It’s about Georgia winning.

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            • Greg

              SO??…again, the question (the entire question) was how long it has it been since we scored 31 points in 3 qtrs. You quote part of the question, give a link and say some “crack” you up. Now you are talking about something entirely different (rallying a team) other than the original question. I’m okay with being by wrong, just try to stay on point if you want to take exception to my comments.

              As far as the Georgia winning part, agree….said that many times. DGAS who starts.

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              • Oy.

                You’re excited because they scored 31 points with a true freshman QB who came off the bench. A year ago we were excited because they scored 19 2nd half points to beat a 22nd ranked North Carolina with a true freshman QB who came off the bench. That doesn’t make you wrong and that wasn’t the purpose to my reply.

                I didn’t realize I wasn’t allowed to use your question to make my own rhetorical point.

                You and CB need to get together and post a guideline of commenter’s etiquette for the rest of us to follow.

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                • Greg

                  Yes I am excited, not sure why that seems to bother you. From my seat, there looks to be a reason to be even more excited than last year. “Rhetorical point”….LOL!…really?? That just sounds convenient to me.

                  As far as me and CB go, looks to me like you are taking this way too personal. Look, I get wanting to be right…but you can’t be right all of the time, unless you are my wife. Love the blog, (been reading it for years), agree with you 90% of the time, like to discuss football, everybody has an opinion…just don’t understand why you get so bent out of shape when some sometimes disagree with you. Never would have thought of you this way…..Peace Brother!

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                • You being excited is great. Doesn’t bother me in the least.

                  It seems to me this discussion went the way it did because you two don’t like my version of being excited.

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                • Greg

                  No, does not bother me whether you are excited or not. Also, there was no effort for me and CB to team up….not linked, do not know him.

                  If you look back, my original reply was too DawgFlan (Kool-Aid drinker). Tried to explain that I was “cautiously optimistic” and why. You seem to imply that I cracked you up (“some”). by what I thought. That is why I challenged it, it does not bother me in the least how you think….I’m not offended. But when you come at me the way you did, you will get it back. It would be a boring world if we all thought the same.

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  17. Timphd

    Honestly, one of my worries is that Chaney (via Smart) will not give Fromm enough of the playbook to make ND have to defend the whole field. I hope they don’t think “don’t let him lose the game” is better than letting him have a chance to make plays. I can’t believe he has the whole playbook down, that would be too much to ask, even for an early entry, but I do hope they allow him to use all that he knows, not just hand off to Chubb and Sony up the middle into 9 man fronts.

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    • DawgPhan

      you have to be concerned about the offense because we saw how this coaching staff called games last year when they were worried about a freshman QB.

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  18. Athens Dog

    I believe defense and special teams will win this game. And a good dose of Chubb Fromm needs to manage. Hope he can do that

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  19. Bigshot

    Maybe all they need to run is half the playbook. There is such a thing as paralysis by analysis.

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  20. UGA85

    That is a good synopsis, IMO. I am much more optimistic about this game than the odds-makers. And I think we can already see how much CKS de-emphasizes QB play relative to CMR. Defense, special teams, LOS play are my hopes to win this game. If Fromm can just make good decisions within the system, I don’t think he needs to be a hero. And the good news seems to be that he does make good decisions quickly.

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  21. Will Trane

    Frankly I was not impressed with the offense.
    Those first series with Eason was disturbing.
    Did Chaney script the first two – three series? Does not look like to me. Why not? Had time in fall camp to do so.
    So now that a frosh QB goes on the road in a bona fide D1 stadium, against a coach and staff under pressure last year [cumulative], what will the offense look like? Does Chaney script the first couple of series for the offense and Fromm.
    Would think most of fall camp’s schedule was directed to Eason. Well, that is gone with a very short week for a frosh QB to prep and rep.
    Not impressed with this offense and play calling. Too vanilla with no punch and power.
    Do you not think ND loads the line? I just do not see the Dawgs getting on the edge much because this team still does not have speed.
    Get early lead. Hold them and field position. Absolutely no turnovers and very few major penalties that put them behind the chains.

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  22. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    I still say my biggest concern about Fromm is what happens if he is hurt. Mecole or Godwin or Michel running the wild dawg? Ramsey? Stetson Bennett? If Fromm gets hurt, I’m afraid we are toast. I hope he doesn’t feel the need to run too much.

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    • PTC DAWG

      Got to be Stetson….but in defense of Ramsey, word was that he got ZERO reps of practice in the last week. I think they had every intention of playing Fromm some in the first game. Sure looked like it to me.

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      • dawgtired

        Agree about the plan to play Fromm. I think he was destined some reps in that game, probably the whole 4th qtr. Fromm and Ramsey both need mucho amounts of reps this week. I hate the whole Ramsey thing. He steps into the pocket and throws a nice ball. I sure wish it could come together for him when he’s in there. I would like to know what he’s thinking sometimes when he’s looking out over the D because he throws with confidence. He’s not color blind is he? Maybe we should have him tested. I hate it for him.

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  23. Yurdle

    I’d be okay with an arm punt or jump ball in each half, but there’s a thin line between that and the Joe Cox “aw screw it” throw.

    It’s an exaggeration, but Eason seems to feel the whole game on him all the time. Fromm looks like he feels nothing but the play in the moment. Both are talented like I could only imagine, but they present different coaching challenges.

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    • Dog in Fla

      Looks like Chaney picked the wrong time to quit sniffing the Lexicon

      Coxian (adj.) – a type of “what, me worry?” on-field decision by a player who should know better that leads to disaster, e.g., “I kind of saw Norwood and was like, hmmm, but I decided to throw it anyway…”

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    • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

      I think that is a good point about the mental difference between Eason and Fromm. There’s physical differences, too, that we can all see, but what I think you prefer is a blend of the two mental approaches somehow, and the more you made me think about it, that was what was so great about AM – I think he had the blend.

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  24. John Denver is full of shit...

    2nd’d

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  25. AusDawg85

    I think Fromm was going to play vs. Appy no matter what. Everyone seemed a little too prepared for that…which is both interesting and good. Hope someone asks Kirby about that.

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  26. CB

    My friend just texted me and said he hopes Eason recovers from his injury and never gets his job back because that means Fromm is lighting it up. I pretty much fully echo those sentiments as unrealistic as they may turn out to be.

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  27. ND will load the box to stop the run game. They want to see if a true freshman
    can beat them with his arm. Keep him off balance & rattled.

    However, If the Defense plays up to their maximum capabilities, the Dawgs
    will win the game. I still pick the Dawgs in a close one, Or on second thought It might not be as close as everyone seems to believe.

    I have confidence in this Dawg Team. Go You Silver Britches. Go Dawgs.

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  28. MGW

    I know for a fact which Georgia QB is the best. But I’m not going to tell you people.

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  29. Just Chuck (The Other One)

    I’m interested in the concern over how much of the play book Fromm knows. When have you ever seen a game when anyone ran all the plays in the book? If he only knows the plays that will work against the ND defense, we may be OK.

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  30. Mary Kate Danaher

    Off point, but do you know where you’re going to be tailigating in South Bend, Senator? Would love to stop by to say hello.

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    • No idea. I’m with a group that’s rented transportation and all I’ve got so far is that we’ll be dropped off near the stadium.

      Send me an email and I’ll let you know more once I know more. 😉

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  31. Russ

    The Vigaro is really going to hit the air conditioning when Eason is ready to return.

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  32. CannonDawg

    I believe Jake Fromm is a talented player and a dynamic leader, and I’m thankful we can turn to him. What will be interesting to see is when a game is hanging in the balance and Fromm throws a pick 6 or a ball carrier or receiver fumbles and instantly changes the momentum. Something like that will happen, possibly in South Bend, and Fromm may be called upon to deliver a late drive in a raucous atmosphere against a fired up opponent. If he can produce under those conditions, true freshman though he may be, then we’ll have a chance to make some chicken salad out of this.

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  33. 69Dawg

    I can’t tell if our fan base is as irrational as a suicide bomber or just delusional. ND is big on both lines of scrimmage. They have good players. They have a once very good coach who was given the opportunity to save himself after a terrible year. We have a true freshman QB who while he is somewhat mobile is not going win this with his feet. We have an offensive line that is questionable. We have WR’s who when let run passing routes can’t for the most part get separation. If our offense can’t keep ND’s offense off the field our defense will get worn down and the ND flood gates will open. The other thing I’m worried about is Kirby’s putting the fear of turnovers into Fromm’s head like he has apparently put in Eason’s head. Maybe Fromm will just not give a damn and go for it knowing that Kirby now has no alternative but to play him. I don’t know but there is a reason the spread has gone from 3 to 6.5 and Vegas does not lose money. I just hope we don’t get embarrassed. Kool-Aid sucks.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      Temple had a new coach and lot of new starters, so I’m not sure how much to take away from Notre Dame’s performance against them. I think they’re pretty good offensively, but Georgia should be able to contain running games. Offense has not been Temple’s strong suit in recent years, and I still think Notre Dame’s defense is questionable. If Georgia’s taking the next step this year, they should win this game. I wouldn’t expect it to be particularly comfortable, but they should still win it.

      As for Vegas, they set the lines based on where people are betting to make sure they get a relatively equal amount of money on both sides. It’s not a prediction.

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    • Southernlawyer11

      Hi Larry, while you’re up there typing, will you ask the man upstairs if he could at least throw us a couple bones even though we’re playing his favorite team ?

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    • Dog in Fla

      In addition to being irrational and delusional, we’ve got other good points too.

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    • Kdawg

      Vegas makes odds to get even money bet on both sides. It has nothing to do with who then oddsmakers think will win. They make odds based on public perception. Not many people outside the Southeast have any idea about Eason or Fromm. They know that the UGA starter went down and and a true freshman is starting in South Bend. I wouldn’t put too much stock into what Vegas “thinks.”

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      • .DASH

        Yeah…but if UGA were favored by a touchdown, I bet you’d all be singing a different tune, i.e. Vegas must know something we don’t!!

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  34. Shane#1

    I didn’t see much of the game,so thank ya’ll for posting. We were in P>C> and it was the last weekend for snapper,so spent most of my time fishing. Then that damn storm decided to change course and we had to put away patio furniture, put on storm shutters, load stuff to keep out of harms way and etc. Fromm seems to have done an OK job and he has a rep for studying hard so I expect him to be ready to play. ND at home is a tough job for any freshman,but barring injury it should be very good for Fromm to play a big game on the road. I am looking for improvement from game to game this year, no more backsliding!

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    • Shane#1

      Take your finger off the shift key dumass!

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    • 92 grad

      You struck a nerve of mine so here it goes. Only time in my life I was in a “well kid, let’s see what ya got” was in 1995 when I was working a summer camp in Michigan. It was a music camp and I’m a trumpet player. They decided to program the Vivaldi concerto for 2 trumpets on the Friday night public radio broadcast so I had a weeks notice to play live radio. It. Was. A blast. One of the best moments of my life and I sincerely hope Jake, Jacob, or Brice, or Stetson experience something similar.

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  35. cjwerner

    Field Marshall Erwin Frommel

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  36. Uglydawg

    It’s late and ithis may not get read by anyone..
    But to use some of the “logic” on this thread..that Fromm is the better pick to lead this team, based on one game against a team which had our defenses’ foot on it’s neck, please note the following..

    In 08 Matthew Stafford had a a 61.8 percent completion rate
    Joe Cox had a 73.3 percent completion rate.

          Stafford had a 153.5 QB rating
          Joe Cox had a 201.9 QB rating.
    
           Matthew Stafford threw 10 interceptions
           Cox...never threw an interception that year.
    

    Given the logic some of you are using, CMR had truly lost control of his QB judging skills because Joe was so clearly the better choice,based on a very small data sample…very small..but By Golly, he had better stats so he was on track to win the Heisman…dumb-ass Mark.

    The coaches..Kirby Smart, and all of his professional staff that have forgotten more about football than any of us (well, most of us) will ever know, judged Eason to be the better choice for leading this team at this time. It’s damned foolish to think you know more and better than them. I’m hopeful and even a little bit optimistic that JF will do enough, and eventually much more than enough to lead the Dawgs to greatness. But Eason going down is a very serious blow to this teams chances. Hopefully he’s back for MSU…and if he’s not, hopefully JF will grow lightyears against ND.

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  37. People will not like this but from what I seen Fromm reminds me a bunch of Joe Cox a great student of the game a sparky leader on the field a person all the players like and respect …Just comes up a tad short in the natural talent area. The pass he threw for a TD was late over the middle into dbl coverage and was just thrown up for grabs then later the pass from the far hash trying to throw the ball away that didn’t make it out bounds and was caught by Swift …..lets just say I hope he understands his talent level and plays within it and allows the players around him and the Def to tote this team ….hey don’t get me wrong a game manager can make an awesome college QB. AL has won several national titles with heady smart qb play

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    • Again, it’s hard to read too much into a one-game sample size, good or bad.

      On Saturday, Fromm gave me reason to feel optimistic about his chances, but who knows? The best thing he’s got going for him is a supporting cast that seems better on defense and special teams than what we saw last year. If the offensive line can take another step forward this week, he’s got a chance to shine.

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      • Uglydawg

        I’ll say this. Fromm has two things that can’t be coached..desire and attitude. Intangibles that are priceless and a good starting point.

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