This play remains as infuriating — and as obvious — to watch on replay days after the game as it was when I saw it live.
Hella job there, SEC refs. I await Steve Shaw’s “well, nobody’s perfect” defense of that.
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I’m confused. Was Roquan the ball carrier on that play?
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He was fixin’ to be.
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Chuckle 🙂 My brother called me right after that play. “Did you see that??” “They tackle R. Smith…right in front of the ref!!” “Inexcusable!” My response. “Well we are playing ND. What do you expect?” “It’s the only chance they have.”
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SEC refs dislike of UGA goes back a long way. Hello Rogers Redding.
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I’m comforted by the fact, for his sake, that AJ Green will make more money this year than Mark Curles will in his life.
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It has its Genesis in 2 places: First, years ago the SEC for some reason decided to hire GATech guys “in mass quantities” to be game officials and those guys often would end up officiating UGA games–their bias being fully on display repeatedly. Second, when Jasper Sanks scored but Al Ford ruled that he had fumbled in the EZ and Tech recovered(switching the outcome of that game) ADVD was so incensed he got Ford and his crew banned from Redding any postseason games that year. Ford and a whole lot of other officials got pissed off about that and hold a grudge to this day. Third, the “end zone stomp” incident in the 2007 WLOCP made several officials (not just Penn Wagers) feel as if the Dawgs were showing them up. Wagers clearly becomes biased and routinely made bogus calls against Georgia after that but he wasn’t the only one. We need to get rid of those Tech guys. Ford is now a TV ref and he needs to go. Wagers is already gone but when we get multiple call from an official or crew that are clearly bogus our AD and President need to raise hell with the SEC and apply supporting evidence. Matt Austin has demonstrated bias against the Dawgs many times. When you have biased officiating you cannot have a fair game. The refs either need to be unbiased or be gone.
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Why do I get the feeling no matter whom they bring in, you will still shout “Bias!”?
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If that is your feeling you are dead wrong. Steve Shaw immediately comes to mind as a ref who was not biased and would not tolerate hanky pansy calls from his crew. That was why I was sorry to see him become head of the referees–he wouldn’t be calling games any more.
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Not to nitpick but Jasper did not score on that play, he was tackled at about the 5.
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Roquan was going to stop that first down. No way the refs didn’t see it..so let’s just cut to the chase and call it “cheating for ND”.
I’d bet a coach told his players that they had to stop RS even if it meant tackling him. This one took it literally…and probably got patted on the back.
The refs kept ND in this game. No way it’s close if called fairly.
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Nonsense. The refs blew multiple calls on both teams. They were bad. We had far too many penalties and all of them were legit calls. This was a real bad blown non call.
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Was on the 50 and it was clearly a tackle take down. Making it worse, the big scoreboard reviewed the play twice to confirm the non call to 80,000. Was one of the worst refereed games I’ve ever seen in person.
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Agree with you.
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It was very embarrassing for the SEC, was that the best crew we had to offer?? At first I thought they were being hard on us to show they weren’t playing favorites, that opinion was quickly replaced by the realization they just plain sucked. The head ref on that crew usually does a good job, wonder if it was a new crew working together for the first time….
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Nonsense yourself. The refs helped ND all night and the week before. There are “hands to the face” and holding on every down. We had a late inadvertent face mask call that was now way a personal foul, but was called as such.
Watched the game with people who are Miami fans. They don’t like UGA and thought I was paranoid before the game when I predicted the refs would help ND. By the third quarter, they told me I was right.
If ND wasn’t allowed to hold,they wouldn’t have an offense.
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Aren’t all facemask penalties 15 yarders for the last few years?
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Yes lol
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ALL? LOL
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Not a chance. In fact, we might have won the game BECAUSE of the refs.
The “late hit” on Fromm was a phantom call that gave us a huge first down.
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Horse manure. While the refs can’t call everything, they tried their hardest to against UGA..and ignored the holding….just as they did to Temple the week before. ND always gets help and that is one of the main reason so many people don’t like them.
The hit on Fromm should have been an ejection.
And you know it.
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Ok guy
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He hit helmet to helmet. Not the worst contact head to head I’ve ever seen, but still an illegal hit. The fact that he got called only for late hit was lucky for him. That’s not me being biased, look at the replay, it is helmet to helmet.
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He was clearly in the white…without replay, ND has at least an 11 point swing…are you drunk?,
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And the ND dude went high on a QB … the hit was unnecessary … therefore, the penalty is unnecessary roughness. If it had been Georgia, the kid would have been tossed for targeting.
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A targeting or unnecessary roughness penalty would’ve been acceptable there for sure (It was close but should’ve been a no call in my opinion). However, that wasn’t the call. He was flagged for a late hit. The hit wasn’t late and Fromm was not out of bounds.
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A late hit is unnecessary roughness … the call was correct. The hit was high, on the QB, led with the helmet, and close to the sideline.
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Used the crown of his helmet too.
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Worse, they tried to steal the game with the bogus call disallowing the TD pass play (one of the best catches I have ever seen) and would have gotten away with it except for the TV ref. If that TV ref had been Al Ford we would have lost that game.
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SEC officiating … just terrible. If Al Ford had been the replay official, we lose that game. They absolutely suck.
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The good news is look how nimbly Trenton runs over the guy in pursuit. Pretty impressive for a man of his stature.
Btw: nd didn’t get a first down and had to punt there. It was 3rd and 10. The more consequential “no calls” were the would be td passes to Nauta and Sony where the nd defenders tackled them while the ball was in the air.
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RE Thompson’s agility . . . my thought when I saw it was, “Oh, I guess that’s why they spend all that time jumping over dummies on the ground during practice” 🙂
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Players figure out pretty quickly when refs aren’t going to call things and then take advantage. ND has a reputation for cheating on top of that too.
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The coming out for the 2017 graduating class of the Penn Wagers School of Officiating
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They were bad but they weren’t Penn Wagers bad.
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PW is the standard for dick heads.
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His twitter pic is of CMR yelling at him! Pretty funny IMO:
https://twitter.com/pennwagers?lang=en
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It’s akin to pro wrasslin”! Everybody in the house sees the cheating but the refs!
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It’s literally the definition of clipping.
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Clipping hasn’t been called in a college game in years, but you are correct.
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I thought the exact same thing
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You’re right. If you really want a textbook example of clipping, watch a Tech game. Everyone knows about the cut blocks from the OL on the DL and ILB’s, but the slotback on the play-side option always takes a couple of steps then crashes back down on the back of the OLB’s outside knee. It never gets called. This is the most dangerous and dirty block they use and it is a source of pride for their smug, unethical coach. The same kind of block took out Abry Jones in 2012, causing him to miss the SECCG.
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Used to be called a “crackback” block and was called very strictly because it is so dangerous to the OLB/ DE.
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Wow you are absolutely clueless.
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A crack back has to be above the waist and the blocker has to get his head in front of the blocked players body for the block to be legal.
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Wouldn’t that be an “illegal block to the back” as well if in a different area?
I thought clips were below the waist?
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You can go low as long as it is from the front. Reread my post above.
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Sleeper hold on Tyler Clark at 8:01 in 4th Qtr.
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“Sleeper hold…”
Laughing with tears. And the guy took him to the ground. I’m thinking a flag should be thrown if the hold last until the victim starts snoring. LOL!!
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I was so amazed that the refs didn’t all a penalty there that, for a second, I said to myself, “I guess that’s allowable …” And immediately thereafter, “Wait, no. Like hell it’s not!”
Every teams’ fans think the refs have it in for their team. Probably not – I attribute the missed or errant calls to NCAA officials’ ineptitude. But, as a Georgia fan, it sure seems like there’s malice mixed in with that ineptitude.
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I remember Jimmy Johnson talking about Miami playing there saying something along the lines of “You can’t leave the game in the refs hands in South Bend”
After 2 games, UGA is currently 3-0
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The comment after the game was that, “it was a clean tackle, and tackling is legal in football.” When asked about the player being on Defense the ref stated, “I don’t know about that, what he was doing to the other team was pretty Offensive.”
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57% of Amercians could not cover a $500 medical bill without putting themselves into debt. So who cares what they spend their money on, because the majority of America is doing the exact same thing.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-afford-a-500-emergency-expense/
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Sotty wrong post, too much good material today senator!
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The only team that gets more calls/no calls than Notre Dame is Alabama.
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Especially with an $EC crew
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I hope ADGM and President Jere Morehead sent a formal complaint about the officiating from the ND game to Steve Shaw and Sankey. With film.
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The reason I’m so OCD about biased reffing is this…Two teams work their asses off. Coaches stay up all hours scheming to play a game. One team travels hundreds (sometimes thousands) of miles to tee it up and see which team can prevail…only to have some asshole who’s bitter with a coach, a team, a conference, a region of the country, or whatever decide the game with a shitty call or a no-call. We’ve seen too much of it at UGA, as the posts above will demonstrate.
For those who don’t worry about it because we still managed to win, would you feel that way if someone tried to steal you car but the police recovered it in a few hours with only minor damage?
Ref’s need to be honest and fair. They are “Officials” and should be held to a very high standard.
I think it was the last time that Bear Bryant took a team to Happy Valley to play PSU. Alabama scored late in the game to win..but the official in the endzone was signaling “out of bounds” even though it was clear to the whole world that he was in bounds by at least two or three feet..not even close. The replays showed the ref got it wrong.. but there were no reviews in those days and the call against ‘Bama stood. Turned out the same ref had made the exact call weeks earlier in another PSU game. People started checking things out and the guy had a kid at PSU.
From that day on I knew refs cheat. Not all of them, but some do. It’s not OK.. It’s stealing.
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OK..long time ago..I got a few things wrong..Perkins was the ‘Bama coach and the ref in question had PLAYED FOOTBALL at PSU!
Here it is..good read with pictures.
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2011/1983-alabama-penn-state-preston-gothard-catch/
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Ug, how is this any different from what happened to Georgia whenMarc Curles, a Tech alum, called “celebration” on AJGreen when Green did nothing. Curled was trying to flip the outcome of the game and it worked. That asshole is STILL an SEC ref.
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In Curles’ defense, his may be more a case of incompetence than bias.
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You are too kind Senator.
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And just as with the late hit on Fromm the announcers claimed there was no contact. The SEC refs really went out of their way to show there wouldn’t be bias. In fact, I’d say they Georgia Way’d that game. They throw Todd Gurley under the bus’d it.
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At one point, I was waiting to get Jasper Sanks’d…
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Watch ND’s Right Guard. He clearly was instructed to hold Trent until the refs called it. They never did.
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Not only did we beat a tough ND on the road, we also beat the refs, turnovers, missed FG and Jim Chaney. As I said earlier in the week…definitely an Atlanta worthy defense.
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The bad calls went both ways. Our TD drive – or at least one of our scoring drives – was kept alive by a very borderline roughing the passer call. Also there were a number of PI no calls on both sides as well.
On this particular play Wimbush obviously knew that was a blown call so he trotted out of bounds rather than lower his pads to try and get the first.
Let’s just take the win and move forward.
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Riiiight. Sanders coming in to clean his clock had he stayed in bounds had nothing to do with it.
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As ever I was shocked, shocked I say that an SEC crew was totally incompetent. The part about the years that GT guys actually ran the SEC officiating have past, now we have an Alabama guy running it. I always thought that Steve Shaw was the best ref the SEC had, after all how many refs would have seen the strip of the ball from the SC QB in the endzone in real time. That being said he does not run a very tight ship. The refs were obviously establishing that they were not SEC homers early in the game. We can’t be too upset though since our players were guilty of grabbing face masks when it was called. We always have to beat the refs and with that milktoast AD of ours we always will. I’m sure that one of Kirby’s biggest surprises since coaching at Georgia is 180 degrees from coaching at Bama where the refs are literally afraid to call penalties on Bama.
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“… Bama where the refs are literally afraid to call penalties on Bama” … throw Auburn in there as well.
The #1 reason the $EC office needs to be moved out of Birmingham. It should move to Nashville (or Atlanta). I’m sick of the biased officiating and the overall biased treatment Alabama and Auburn get over the rest of the conference.
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