A little more spring in Nick Chubb’s step

It’s more apparent with every passing game, but this is a welcome development.

That’s actually a better pace than Chubb set his freshman season.  Imagine what he might be capable of with just a tad better blocking from the o-line.

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44 responses to “A little more spring in Nick Chubb’s step

  1. Mayor

    And more carries. Imagine if Herschel Walker were on this team and Chaney gave him the ball 10-12 times a game. That’s what Chaney is doing with Chubb. Chubb is the second leading rusher all-time behind Walker.

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    • Herschel didn’t have Michel and Swift on the roster. Maybe you think those two should sit on the bench.

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      • Scott

        Hershel also had a heckov a line as evidenced the year after he left.

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      • 69Dawg

        I’m not saying they should run him 30+ times a game but some backs get better the more carries they get. Put them in for at least a whole series and stop with the revolving door after every few plays. The rotation causes a break in the RB’s rhythm. Also to put him in on 3rd down just announces that he is going to get the ball.

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        • Brandon

          I see this same thing spewed around all over the internet. Is there some scientific study out there that proves some backs get better the more carries they get? I don’t know about you but I was usually more effective when I was fresh and hadn’t been knocked around all game and run all over the place. The RBs who appear better in the 4th quarter isn’t because “they get better with more carries”. It’s because they are better conditioned and generally less tired than the defense as a whole. This is especially true for power RBs. Keep that power RB fresh by limiting carries early going into the 4th quarter and IMO he is even more effective than he would be with 20-25 carries already under his belt

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    • diggittydigdawg

      I’d rank the production by ypc as Swift, Michel, then Chubb. Sony didn’t play vs Samford but outproduced Chubb in ypc in the first 2 games. Swift has outproducued Chubb in the first 3 games in ypc. Chubb;s the #3 back, the reason he gets the bulk of the carries is passblocking.

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    • waterloodawg

      How many Sec games have we played so far? How many are coming up in a row? I think that’s why Chubb has been a bit limited. We are trying to spread the contacts out until we really need him.

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  2. Mayor

    Senator, since time began playing time has been an issue for football teams. Here’s the way it works: Players go through spring practice, then summer practice, and are evaluated by the coaches. Based on their performance the coaches select who is the starter, and who is second string, third string etc. In 1980 Herschel Walker was the first string TB and his primary backup was Carnie Norris (a damn good back in his own right with a yards per carry average over 6). That season Herschel gained about 1800 yards as I recall. Norris gained about 600. There were other backs on that team that contributed too. My point is that if you have an outstanding player you need to play him. He won the starting job. I agree that Michel has been underutilized too. Swift is an underclass man and should get a few carries too. But Swift is the team star NEXT year when Chubb and Michel are gone–unless he beats them out like Herschel Walker did back in 1980. Remember when Bama had that series of great backs Ingram, etc.? Saban played the starter and the backup played as a backup. When the starter graduated the backup became the starter. On and on. A couple of them won the Heisman. Now tare all in the NFL. That’s how it’s done Senator. Not running back by committee which doesn’t really work.

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    • Georgia has run 205 plays in three games. Of those 205, 141 are rushes. Of those 141, 44 are Chubb carries. Michel’s got 29 carries and Swift has 17. (See the Boyd post about how Chaney’s been making use of Swift on jet sweeps to take pressure off Chubb/Michel facing loaded boxes.) Herrien has run the ball 15 times, but a lot of that has been in mop up duty, or to give Chubb a quick breather.

      So Chubb has almost a third of Georgia’s rushing attempts in a season when the Dawgs are close to running the ball 70% of the time. Again, I ask, whom do you want to take carries from to feed Chubb more often?

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      • Mayor

        All of ’em. Chubb’s the starter. If the coaches decide Michel is better or Swift or Herrien is better then that guy becomes the starter and HE gets the bulk of the carries. That’s the way it’s supposed to work. 125 plus years of football history Senator. That’s reality.

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        • So, you’d keep running Chubb in garbage time? Remember, both the Appy State and Samford games were over by the fourth quarter.

          Not to mention this has been a running back group that’s been bitten by the injury bug for several years running. A little prudence never hurts.

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        • Macallanlover

          That ship has sailed Mayor, no one runs a star back into the ground the way Texas did Earl Campbell any longer. Georgia’s use of 2-3 backs is exactly the reason we get these great backs layered on top of one another, they all know there are carries enough for everyone….plus they are beat to hell before it is pay day. We had Gurshall, then Chubb/Sony, now have Swift/Zeus, and maybe Cook, for next year. You would never have that type of firepower if UGA had a reputation of running them to death. Join the 21st Century, pitch that flip phone in the trash, and get with the new “sharing carries” concept.

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      • Mayor

        P.S. Under your way of doing things Herschel would only have gotten about 1000 yards in 1980.

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        • diggittydigdawg

          Swift is the most productive back, averages almost a yard better than hubb, only reason Chubb gets more carries than Swift is Chubb knows passblocking schemes better. But Chubb is the #2 RB in terms of ypc production. Swift is the #1 most productive, can’t sit him, that’s ludicrous.

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          • Mayor

            I guess if you were HC Swift would be the starter then?

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            • diggittydigdawg

              Yes, i believe in a merit based system, you have to earn it. So if Swift is the most productive, give him the most touches, I’d give Michel No 2 touches, and Chubb No 3, based objectively off their production. Kirby said we have to get no 7 the ball more, so I think he agrees, we’ll see. I’d bring a te like Blaze back to help with passblocking since we’re not throwing to the tight ends anyways.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      Georgia ran the ball 594 times in 1980 with Herschel getting 274 of those carries, or almost exactly 45%. Chubb has received roughly 31% of the carries so far this season. Herschel was also the best running back to ever play college football on a team with nobody even close to him in ability. The ’85 to ’88 period when Georgia had two or more backs of comparable ability is probably a better comparison to the current situation.

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    • steve

      Mayor, I hate it when anonymous Internet deezers do this but I am going to correct you. I don’t think Hershel started out as the number 1 TB his first game. I think Donnie McMickens (number 27?) started against UT and Dooley brought in Hershel after we had reached the UT 15. That is the moment of Munson’s famous ‘he’s running over people’ and Bill Bates (UT’s safety at the time) still has Hershel’s cleat marks in his chest. Incidentally, I took my then 4 yo daughter to see Hershel’s first TD in Sanford stadium the next weekend against T A&M. Billy Cannon Jr was supposed to be the best but Hershel stole the show. Before the first game Dooley had called Hershel ‘another big stiff back’.

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      • Mayor

        I was in the stadium for the A&M game too. Remember when Herschel had that long run up the sideline for a TD and the A&M DBs had the angle on him and he still outran them all? Walker may not have been the starter at the kickoff of the first game but he won the starting job during the season in this case during the first game. Happens all the time.

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  3. diggittydigdawg

    Don’t get suckered into Chubb’s production so far, it’s been vs the #112 rush defense in Samford who gives up 211 a game, #79 notre dame rush defense, #69 appal st rush defense, in other words, Chubb has yet to be tested. We all know how Chubb struggled vs UF last year. So hold off until he faces top ranked rush defenses like Miss St, Vandy, Auburn and Kentucky.

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    • This is amusing. Chubb struggled last year because he was returning from a serious injury that hampered his ability to break tackles. He’s showing that he’s returning to form in that regard, but we’re being suckered?

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      • diggittydigdawg

        Chubb collpases vs good rush defenses, last year his ypc was
        3.3 vs Mizzou
        3 vs TN
        2.5 VS vANDY
        2.2 vs UF
        4 VS kY
        4 VS gt

        He’s not been the same since his injury, nothing physical, he just can’t trust his knee.

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        • He said the same thing about himself going into this season. You think you’ve made some shocking discovery?

          Like it or not, he appears much improved in that regard so far in 2017. Keep digging that hole, brother.

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          • diggittydigdawg

            Just saying Chubb has a serious confidence issue, he runs great vs terrible rush defense like NC last year or Samford this year. Know ing how he performed in games vs good rush defenses last season, if Chubb breaks 3 ypc vs Miss St I’ll be stunned, but look for Sony and Swift to both av over 5 ypc in any game.

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            • Again, you’ve made the point repeatedly. Move on.

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              • diggittydigdawg

                Fair enough, just bugs me why this is even an issue from a merit standpoint, like I would keep starting Fromm as long as his win % stays above 70% and his accuracy stays above 55%, besting Eason’s last season. But that’s me, and I’m a minority, so I’ll move on, sorry Senator.

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                • You’d keep playing Fromm because Georgia’s winning, but you’d make Chubb third-string even though Georgia’s winning? THAT’S HOW YOU TROLL, PEOPLE!

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                • dawbonedalton

                  dude, just no, yes, your selective statistics can say Fromm is better than Eason, like what, the 5 to 1 touchdown to interception ratio beats the two to one, or accuracy, and yards per pass, win percentage 100% beats 67%, but win percentage? Hard to pin that on one player, although I do agree the Quarterback should get the majority of blame or credit, it’s not all his fault, special teams sucked last year and the run game was not clicking in a lot of games so it wasn’t just the Quarterback, that’s an oversimplification..

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  4. kfoge

    The comment about HW being the starter in 1980 and Carnie is backup is slightly misleading. Going in to the opening game against UT, I believe HW was 3rd string. UGa was losing and they put HW in and as they say “the rest is history”. Also, I did have a problem with Chaney not using Chubb the entire 3rd quarter against ND (it seemed like the entire qtr), however if Chubb not getting more carries is to save him for the tougher SEC schedule then I will, in hindsight, be okay with it. The SEC games most likely will be 4 quarter games unlike App St and Samford.

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    • Got Cowdog

      I recall hearing that VD thought Herschel was a “big stiff fullback” until that game. 🙂

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      • Rampdawg

        He was a big stiff tree trunk when you tried to tackle him, then swift as the wind that he knocked out of you.

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        • Got Cowdog

          I was a twelve year old tailback at the time. I loved to watch him run, and tried to emulate his style. Get to the corner, square up the pads and drive right through the Linebac………..

          Coach: “Cowdog… Cowdog! How many fingers am I holding up?
          Cowdog (flat on back, somewhere around the line of scrimmage, missing mouthpiece, chinstrap and one shoe) “Did I score?”

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          • AusDawg85

            LOL! As a freshman in ’81 I was walking uphill in the rain next to the J-school headed to Brooks Hall one morning. Head down and in a hurry, wasn’t really looking at the other students on the sidewalk, just hustling along and dodging folks coming the other way. Suddenly, BAM!!. Hit someone in a solid black shiny Adidas sweatsuit (remember those?). Hurt my shoulder like walking into concrete. Looked up to sneer and…it’s Herschel. He just had that thin smile of his and didn’t say a word, but I mumble sorry and couldn’t wait to get to class to tell folks I just got Bill Batesed by #34!

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          • James Payne

            I think the fact that Chubb has fought back from a serious injury and worked hard to get back to his old form speaks volumes as to who deserves to be #1. Add to that the fact that Chubb could have gone into the NFL draft, but stayed around to help his beloved Dawgs, and I don’t see how you even have a leg to stand on claiming that Chubb doesn’t deserve to be #1. Finally, you have totally ignored the fact that Chubb, as a starter, always plays against a fresh defense which is keying heavily on him. The other guys come in after Chubb and the offensive line have softened up the defense a bit, and exposed some of the defensive tendancies. Don’t disrespect the noble nature of one who has worked so hard, and given so much of himself for the Dawgs. Don’t get me wrong, the other guys are great, especially Michel who also stayed when he could have turned pro. All of the backs are needed and they should get as many touches as the coach deems appropriate and necessary. Let the players play and the coaches coach. –
            Dawg alumnus 1973

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            • kfoge

              I am trying to understand which comment you are replying to James Payne? Do not see where my initial comment and the stories that followed ‘disrespected’ the #1 RB?

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  5. CB

    Chubb is still good, but not even close to the same player he was as evidenced by the fact that he isn’t the front runner for the Heisman trophy, or really even in the conversation.

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