Today, in pay to play

It’s basketball, but it’s also Auburn, so follow the bouncing tweets.

And in the understatement of the day…

Finally, Ole Miss finds somebody to hold its beer.  You sure are running a clean conference these days, Commissioner Sankey.

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UPDATE:  You want somebody to draw you a road map?  Okay.

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UPDATE #2:  Auburn is “angry”.

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59 responses to “Today, in pay to play

  1. WE Dawg

    Auburn in trouble with the law? Pass the popcorn.

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  2. AusDawg85

    I hate that we’re not better at BB. I’m not convinced Mark Fox is the X’s and O’s guy plus recruiter to get us any better. Be he seems to be a truly upstanding guy and avoids the cesspool of CBB/AALU, etc. rather than just holding his nose while wading into it. Not sure how to fix this for UGA other than via the first statement…somebody better at game strategy and recruiting without getting down and dirty.

    This really is more on Sankey than Auburn anymore. It’s not just a meme, it’s an ongoing fact pattern that the SEC offices need to address with Auburn.

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    • Southernlawyer11

      How to (start) fixing UGA basketball ? Build an arena in downtown. Bonus points if you can find a way to serve beer at the games. That’s the difference between good and awful attendance when you’re a middle of the road team.

      It’s kind of the same (but inverse) analogy as Colorado State getting loads of goodwill and momentum out of their new on-campus stadium (which is the premo location for football) that serves beer and has been made into a cool “place to be.” Also, they are in football kind of what we are in basketball…. and they were getting nowhere with that stadium at the Fort Collins fairgrounds, just like we’re getting nowhere with that arena that is a cold winter night’s walk to nowhere.

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      • Otto

        I have been saying UGA needs to make a statement by building a new arena. It isn’t whether the Stege is good or bad, the recruits like the shiny new thing and UGA BB has regularly been a side show to other sports.

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        • Russ

          Yeah, I’m getting to this point. I’m not a “build a new arena” person, but it would be a firm show of commitment to the program. I’d love to see Fox work out but have to be honest that I don’t see it happening. He’s plateaued at “consistently mediocre”, which I guess is better than we’ve been, but we should be so much better than that.

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          • Otto

            Agreed, and I am usually not in the build a new stadium camp. I have doubts any HC can do much better while working with B-M, and staying out of NCAA trouble.

            It would take a monumental public investment in BB to be substantially better, in my opinion and the most obvious is a new arena.

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          • JamesBrown

            After the renovations to Stegeman this past season don’t expect any money going to basketball for the near future

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      • PatinDC

        I love that idea. It would be great for the entire community and for the University.

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    • Don Leebern thinks Mark Fox is the bee’s knees…

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  3. Jared S.

    You can rearrange the letters in

    WAR EAGLE PLAINSMEN TIGERS

    To spell

    ANOTHER AUBURN SCANDAL

    I’m not making that up.

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  4. Otto

    It can be fun to watch a rival burn. However, Ole has their problem, UF has 9 facing 3rd degree felonies, and now this.

    I don’t like the NCAA snooping around in our neighborhood, especially with a B-M that has never had the ability to handle the NCAA. If they snoop long enough they can find something.

    Sankey isn’t looking good, his predecessor was hired to keep the NCAA away and was successful. Sankey now has the NCAA and criminal investigations after not handling UF/LSU well last year. It maybe time for him to go.

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  5. Minnesota Dawg

    This is the only way that corruption in college basketball comes to light–not from an NCAA investigation–but from an FBI operation. The NCAA, which is pathetic investigatory body already, has very consciously turned a blind eye to blatant and rampant cheating by the basketball big boys for decades. Nothing to see here….as long as that cash cow keeps delivering in March!

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    • This comes, moreover, as the result of a three-year sting operation.

      Anyone who doesn’t think there are college coaches out there shitting bricks right now is mistaken.

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      • doofusdawg

        I wonder who or what entity was the driving force in getting the investigation started. You evidently have schools, agents and sport’s apparel companies involved. I wonder which schools, agents and sports apparel companies did not like the conspirators playing in their respective sand boxes and which politicians representing those schools might have gotten things rolling.

        Looking forward to you following this story as it appears to be in your wheel house.

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      • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

        So, you’re saying that maybe UGA can get to the Final Four… by default? 😉 CBS bean counters may be shitting some bricks, too, if it gets bad enough.

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      • ASEF

        And it will be high profile. These one-and-dones have tended to congregate around 4 to 5 programs.

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        • sniffer

          Speaking of Louisville, I wondered at the time if the lady friend Pitino had sex with in the restaurant was there because she was paid to compromise him. Look, I might fall too, but the circumstances around that seemed odd. Closed restaurant, after hours and nobody there. I guess it happens but just seemed convenient. Pitino strikes me as the type who would buy and sell and, yes, I’m aware of the current violations they are dealing with. Not surprised L’ville is named.

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      • Aubrey E Walker

        It think Football and Basketball Coaches are looking over there shoulder. I’m not Convinced that all football programs are clean just because of all the 7 on 7 teams. They should investigate them also. Subpoena power would be great for the NCAA but the College and university presidents would never vote that in. Just my opinion

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  6. Saltwater Dawg

    Wow. This could turn really bad really quick. NCAA investigations …. ho hum. But US attorneys do not play, and charges aren’t filed until they already know they’ve won. Expect those caught in the net to start singing – sitting out a year or two from coaching is nothing compared to a federal prison sentence.

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  7. Bulldog Joe

    Auburn gonna Auburn.

    Only remaining question is who they still have in NCAA office and the FBI to squash this.

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  8. georgiajeepn

    Well for sure Georgia basketball ain’t involved in this! lol…No bribing needed for two star players.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      True.

      Even if there was, we would have already bent over and taken the punishment for these other schools.

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    • jtp03

      You’ve obviously not paid a lot of attention to the team in the last 3 years or so….

      Ogbeide, Crump, Harris, Hammonds, Claxton are all 4 stars. And that scrub 3 star Yante who was just named preseason all american and sec player of the year.

      But don’t let facts get in the way of your narratives.

      He needs to win more, and win more right now. But you can’t argue that we’re not recruiting at a much higher level.

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      • hassan

        Totally agree. Recruiting has been steadily trending up.

        Claxton is a baller. I remember seeing his dad play. From what I hear, FSU was in the driver’s seat, but Mark Fox did a great (pardon the pun) full court press to get the kid.

        For a program that doesn’t seem to participate in the AAU shenanigans, we are holding our own on the recruiting trail. Especially since we are a program that wouldn’t even be looked at by these kids a few years ago.

        The talent and depth level is trending up. Time for the coaches to translate that into wins.

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  9. 83Dawg

    “University-7” HAS to be Miami.

    I am not one of the lawyers on this board, but I will state, for the record, that it is confusing as hell to read the charges when a “person of interest” is, in fact, named “Person”.

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  10. Sides

    U2 is South Carolina

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  11. Derek

    Interesting that they chose to arrest via a complaint. Generally, these sorts of cases are handled with target letters, grand jury investigations, indictments and/or informations.

    They must not think that Person is positioned to be a cooperator or they decided not to see where all the bodies were buried. Too bad.

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    • DawgFlan

      “About $18,500 of the money he [Auburn’s Chuck Person] received was sent to the two student-athletes he steered to the financial adviser.

      Person, according to the documents, told one player, “don’t share this with your sisters, don’t share this with any of the teammates, that’s very important cause this is a violation … but this is how the NBA players get it done.”

      He went on to say, “your personality and the way you do things can’t change. Don’t flaunt the stuff you get and, you know, don’t change the way you speak to people.””

      If that exists on tape… Damn. Just damn.

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  12. Bright Idea

    Al.com suggests that Auburn knew Person was shady before they hired him but like Pearl, hired him anyway. What’s with them?

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    • Don in Mar-a-Lago

      Jay Jacobs. Now that Bruce has more time to focus by going all-in with his family, he can help Jared make peace happen in the Mideast where I’m told the people are very nice and willing to make a deal.

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  13. Russ

    Well, yeah, it’s a felony, but did he break any NCAA rules? That’s the distinction Auburn wants to know. Besides, if they have a man “on the inside”, think of the recruiting he could do for them.

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  14. 69Dawg

    I smell RICO. SEC basketball, little brother football, has just gone hold my beer. Somebody needs to clean up the AAU before college basketball is a thing of the past.

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  15. Louisville might get the death penalty. They are already on probation for strippers and hookers. Now they have involved in a fraud scandal that funneled $100k to a recruit.

    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20824193/ncaa-basketball-coaches-10-charged-fraud-corruption

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  16. Go Dawgs!

    So you’re saying that hiring Bruce Pearl to oversee your second-most important athletic program didn’t turn out great? I’m shocked.

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  17. SSB Charley

    Perhaps the most interesting thing I’ve learned in all of this is that Chuck “the Rifleman” Person’s middle name is Connors. All these years, I had no idea.

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  18. Derek

    Auburn is enraged! How many times do they have to warn somebody not to end up being tape recorded breaking the law? It’s like Day 1 orientation stuff.

    Maybe they can get the FBI agents in a room and threaten them if they don’t destroy all the evidence? https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/28/quarantines-threats-auburn-softballs-sexual-harassment-accusations/amp/

    I have a lot of distaste for a lot of opponents but only one sets the standard for being the absolutely most repugnant sports program ever and that’s auburn. They have zero redeeming qualities and have zero shame about that being a provable fact.

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    • No One Knows You're a Dawg

      How does the Auburn athletic director still have a job?

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    • Minnesota Dawg

      Completely agree. It’s a shame that our oldest football rivalry is with this unscrupulous program.

      There are plenty of bad apples in college sports, but the only school that comes to mind that is as consistent and unapologetic as Auburn when it comes to lack of ethics is Louisville. As punishment, these schools should be forced to play each other and only each other in all sports. It’s the only way to ensure that they’re both operating on a level playing field with the competition.

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  19. DawgPhan

    So is the FBI involved because of Adidas? And the financial advisors? Seem weird to devote this many resources to college kids getting some cash here or there.

    Does seem like this is something that could really up end the apple cart though.

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    • hassan

      This is a bit more than some kids getting some cash here or there. This involves kickbacks to coaches to influence pro bound kids. Looks and smells like basketball’s version of payola.

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  20. Dog in Fla

    Wolken was woke

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  21. Texas Dawg

    At UGA this would be referred to as a scandal. At Auburn and Louisville this is referred to as Tuesday.

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  22. 3rdandGrantham

    Louisville is toast, and no way Pitino is the head coach next week this time. They seriously might get the death penalty

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  23. Dolly Llama

    Senator, I’m not getting your latest “Auburn is angry” update. That link leads to a story about Kamryn Pettway getting cleared to play. Doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the matter at hand. Is there a connection that I’m just missing?

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  24. Macallanlover

    How could AU be angry? The Cam Chapel in 2010 didn’t anger them as they were diving all in. Tip of the iceberg on agents and under the table payments to athletes, and their families. Better take cover, there will deals cut for months as many seek to cover their bottoms.

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  25. Fuck Bruce Pearl. “During the 1988–89 basketball season, Pearl, then an assistant coach at Iowa, was at the center of a recruiting scandal involving Illinois. Both Illinois and Iowa were recruiting Deon Thomas, a top high school player from Chicago. Pearl lost this recruiting battle when Thomas committed to Illinois. Thereafter, Pearl called the high school student and recorded a phone conversation with Thomas, which may have been illegal depending on where Pearl originated the call. (Illinois requires prior consent of all participants to monitor or record a phone conversation according to Ill. Rev. Stat. Ch. 38, Sec. 14–2; however, Iowa, where Pearl was coaching at the time, only requires one party’s consent to record a phone conversation.) During the conversation, Pearl asked Thomas if he had been offered an SUV and cash by Illinois assistant coach Jimmy Collins, and Thomas seemed to indicate that he had. Pearl then turned over copies of the tapes to the NCAA, accompanied by a memo describing the events. During the subsequent NCAA investigation, Thomas denied the allegations and said the story was false, that he was agreeing with Pearl only to try to get rid of him. Thomas later passed a polygraph test in which he denied Pearl’s accusation of Illinois’s offering cash and a car. The NCAA did not find Illinois guilty of any wrongdoing relating to Thomas’s recruitment, finding that the purported evidence provided was not “credible, persuasive and of a kind on which reasonably prudent persons rely in the conduct of serious affairs.”[3] However, since the investigation uncovered other violations, including Illinois’s third major violation in six years, the NCAA cited Illinois with a “lack of institutional control” charge and implemented several recruiting restrictions and a one-year post-season ban.”

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  26. WarD Eagle

    Auburn’s plans to “Stripe the Stadium” for the MSU game have been slightly modified.

    Those in orange sections are being asked to wear white. Those in blue sections are being asked to wear black

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  27. As my wife stated, ” there are a lot of coaches shitting and a gitting right now”. Be the first one to make a deal, that way you may not suffer as much. I still want to know what happen to all those tapes law enforcement had, back in the Cam scandal.

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