Justin Fields’ “curious decision”

Dennis Dodd, for some reason, goes concern trolling over Georgia’s latest verbal commitment.

Fields’ arrival begs the question: Why is he coming to Georgia in the first place? Two quarterbacks with starting experience and plenty of remaining eligibility await.

“It doesn’t make sense to me,” Simmons added. “Fromm doesn’t have the same NFL upside as Jacob Eason, much less Justin Fields, but if Fromm keeps winning at this clip it’s hard to imagine him getting beat out.”

Maybe — perish the thought! — Fields doesn’t believe he’ll be the guy who transfers.  Besides, if he redshirts, a possibility he doesn’t exclude, and even if Fromm is the man for four seasons, he’ll be gone by the time Fields is a junior.  There’s also the chance that Fromm suffers the same future as Jacob Eason’s present.

Bottom line, you can’t predict the future.  But this should make for a nice negative recruiting thing for other coaches to email Fields between now and signing day.

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64 responses to “Justin Fields’ “curious decision”

  1. Silver Creek Dawg

    Loathe as I am to credit him, Greg McElroy just destroyed people like Dennis Dodd on the SEC Network during his Monday show with Marcus Spears.

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    • gastr1

      The fact that Dodd cites DeShaun Watson as an example of Fields’ “running ability” while citing John Elway’s arm leaves his credibility in serious doubt, IMO. I mean, yes, Elway could throw, but he was a better runner than Watson is.

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  2. Bright Idea

    A “curious decision ” maybe but Fields’ decision to make. Maybe he prefers to spend his college years in Athens regardless of what might happen on the field.

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  3. RLJ

    “That reminds me: Fields is good on the track, too. He can also run the 100 meters in 4.51 seconds.”
    100 meters in 4.51 seconds? I can discount the whole article with the assumption that Dodd was smoking something.

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  4. MGW

    The rare recruiting piece. Nice.

    Anyhow, he’s been hearing that all along. This is Mark Bradley level analysis from Dodd here. As far as a cold, “whats the best situation for you” perspective, Georgia’s always made no sense when compared to places like FSU, Florida, and Auburn where the QB position is completely up for grabs. You’ve got two 5 stars already on campus, both of whom are proven reliable starters, and it ain’t like they’re seniors.

    But throughout his recruitment it basically seemed like he really, really wanted to go to Georgia, but was looking around hoping he’d find a place he felt the same way about that made more sense. It looks like he didn’t find it.

    Plus a very relevant point ignored here is the fact that his game is VERY different from Eason’s or Fromm’s. A Shockley/Greene or Leek/Tebow type situation is a real possibility for him here, even if it takes a couple of years before he starts.

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  5. ChiliDawg

    Why not take the kid at his word? He said flat out he decided to not worry about depth chart and just go where he wanted to go. That was Georgia. Seems pretty simple to me. Of course Dodd is just begging a question he’s too much of a coward to actually throw out there himself.

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  6. JasonC

    Actually, one thing that I thought is now that Fromm is doing more zone reads, that should be an enticement for Fields who is fast and mobile as noted. It shows, that UGA will conceive ways to use all his talents.

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  7. ChiliDawg

    Even if all 3 quarterbacks stay, Fields redshirts and has minimum 2, perhaps 3 years to be the starter if Eason/Fromm play out their eligibility.

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    • Greg

      If Eason continues in his current role, he has wasted an entire year with no game reps. For a guy that most experts still think has an NFL future (I’ve seen some mock drafts that still have him as a 1st round pick after next season), Eason can’t afford the possibility of another year like this one and next year he would have to deal with Fields and Fromm. There’s competition everywhere, but I think he’ll transfer (possibly to one of the Washington schools) unless he gets a lot more playing time between now and year end. Going to be a tough decision for him since transferring would mean he’ll miss next year too and he’ll be starting out new somewhere else at a time when he thought he’d be playing his first NFL season. Whatever he decides, I wish him the best. Seems like a great kid and the current situation has got to be very tough on him.

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      • ChiliDawg

        All this hypothetical talk about Eason transferring is going to come to a screeching halt if/when we finally come up against a team with a defense and suddenly Fromm looks like Grayson Lambert.

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        • Mayor

          Do you mean the Greyson Lambert who was 10-2 as a starter and set the NCAA record for complete passes in a row against South Carolina in 2015? That Greyson Lambert?

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          • I think he means the Greyson Lambert who followed up that SC game with a 63.44 passer rating against Alabama and managed to lose the starting job at two programs.

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            • Macallanlover

              Speaking of “curious”, what was Eason’s rating against SC last year? Glad they didn’t drug test him that day because he must have been on something that day. Never have seen a QB that far off target with passes, thank God we ran all over, through, and around the SC line that Sunday.

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  8. truck

    That makes me want to go all Booch on Dennis Dodd, except I’m not technically the caretaker of Georgia football.

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  9. Add on top of that that the NFL no longer puts a ton of value on lots of college playing time for QBs anymore – even the path to NFL first rounder doesn’t mean that you have to start as a freshman or even a sophomore):
    Jamarcus Russell 1 yr starting as QB: #1 pick
    Cam Newton 1 yr starting as QB: #1 pick
    RGIII 1 yr starting as QB: #2 pick
    Jameis Winston 2 yr starting as QB: #1 pick
    Mitch(ell) Tribusky 1 yr starting as QB: #2 pick

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  10. 3rdandGrantham

    If Fields is as good as everyone is saying he is –
    including Dodd – then he’ll have a great shot at becoming the starter next fall. Oh yea – he also has a 3.9 GPA and got something like a 29 ACT score, so obviously he has the smarts to pick up the O quickly as well, much as Fromm did as a TFreshman.

    These commentators are absurd. On one hand they are saying Fields is the best they’ve seen, yet on the other they are saying he should have gone elsewhere so he wont be riding the bench behind Fromm. Do these types like Dodd not have any clue what they are actually saying?

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  11. Cojones

    The fact that Justin is recruiting for us and that there are athletes who have said they want to go where Fields goes closes the door on anything except a great team being assembled. Who wouldn’t want to play here and for any QB that is here, but there are athletes who already are loyal to Fields and will come to UGA for the prospect of getting the ball from him. O-linemen, TEs, WRs, RBs all see the advantage no matter when he steps on the field.

    DD’s trying to fuck with the Dawg fan’s mindset as we approach Ho Lee’s demarcation line where his surname hits the fan.

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  12. Cojones

    Btw Bluto, it seems that I keep reading posts from Dawg fans that keeps my spirits up, not down. There is a different smell in the air as we approach new games to watch the D perform as well as the O and the games are different such that a positive stroke has now been pulled into our psyche. It hasn’t risen to the fervor that we see on the horizon, but it’s certainly not the old fan’s hand wringing concerning unfortunate circumstances that haven’t happened.

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  13. Borodawg

    Playing time aside, maybe he loves his family and wants to be close to home so they can come watch him play. Two hours isn’t that bad a drive from Athens to Kennesaw and plus his sister is going to Georgia.
    I had a friend who transferred with me to Georgia in the Engineering department, he lasted about two weeks and dropped out because he missed his family too much. Granted you need to cut the cord at some time in your life but for some it is very hard to do.

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    • Otto

      True but the drive from Kennesaw to Auburn or UGA is a toss up. Granted Gus hasn’t shown the ability to develop a QB he recruited out of High School.

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  14. 69Dawg

    If Nick has gone to a RPO QB can Kirby be far behind? The times they are a changing.

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  15. Otto

    I do not see what is curious especially after a couple of runs by Fromm. You have to believe that Eason is very likely to transfer if he doesn’t get the starting job. If Eason transfers Fields gets playing time as the backup and who knows what he can earn. A few possessions or plays here and there as circumstances permit and then more and more.

    If Eason does get the job back, UGA has 3 QBs and Fields can redshirt. Fields pushes to get a degree in 3 years and uses the grad transfer rules to transfer if he isn’t a starter. He appears to be able to get the grades to graduate.

    CFB and the NFL are moving toward dual threat, even Bama has dual threat QBs. Fields will likely be the only true dual threat on campus. He may have a chance to beat out Fromm and Eason and then keep job even if another dual threat is signed.

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  16. Chico Dawg

    Couple things already said here, but I’m waiting on a conference call, so…
    1) I was completely STUNNED that Auburn was not a bigger player here. I thought they would have offered Derrick Brown type cash to get Fields over to the plains.
    2) there is NO DOUBT that the days of a statue at QB are over. Fields is the right guy at the right time for Kirby/ Chaney/ etc. If the Emperor has moved on to a dual threat QB, then the rest of CFB is not far behind. RPO’s are just too dangerous of a play in division 1.

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  17. WarD Eagle

    Where does this guy get the idea Fromm doesn’t have the same NFL upside as Eason?

    Because he doesn’t look like the protypical NFL QB?

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    • Otto

      Most scouts think Eason has a stronger arm and quicker release.

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      • dubyadee

        Eason does have a stronger arm, and the physical half of his release is quicker. Fromm is much quicker with the mental half of the release (recognition).

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        • Otto

          From what we have witnessed I would agree Fromm was quicker to pick up pre snap reads,

          NFL scouts seem to get worked up over Eason’s upsides and believe they can teach the recognition. Yes we have witnessed busts thanks to this logic.

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          • dubyadee

            I hope Eason can pick it up while he is still at Georgia. Just seems like he doesn’t trust his eyes and has to look twice to confirm the receiver is open before letting it fly. The extra 1/10th of a second is like a lifetime.

            Don’t get me wrong. Fromm makes plenty of mistakes, but I don’t think I have ever seen a freshman at Georgia so comfortable with the progressions. Maybe Zeier?

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            • DoubleDawg1318

              Progressions? Fromm isn’t going through his progressions. He’s getting one read (and it’s usually been open the past few weeks) and then makes a decision. He’s still locking onto receivers and not seeing the whole field. He’s definitely not sitting back going through progressions whatever other good things he may be doing.

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              • Otto

                Freshman year to freshman year, Eason did the same thing as well but Fromm makes better pre snap reads.

                My standard comment to this is, we only have a handful of passes as fans to judge Eason’s progress. I am trusting Smart, Chaney and company on this one.

                I am not disagreeing with anyone that believes Fromm can have success in the NFL. However, David Green was the winningest college QB when he graduated, Stafford did not have a conference title. Which one was drafted higher and which one is still playing? Expand that to Murray and Colt McCoy. NFL scouts and coaches get locked on to a target and never look at their other options. Fromm could be a Drew Brees, we don’t know. I would say he has a more uphill fight than Eason to get his shot in the NFL.

                Honestly, I don’t care and was answering the question which started this tangent. I care about who can win games at the college level.

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              • Otto

                Fromm seems to have the most catchable long ball since Zeier in my opinion.

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              • dubyadee

                I don’t know about that. I have seen him “no, no, yes” at least three times this season. And he moves off the primary all the time. I think you need to watch some replays.
                The stare-downs happen when he is waiting for the first guy to break.

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          • 81Dog

            Not to compare either of our guys to these guys, but scouts once drooled over Jeff George (arm strength!) and scoffed at Joe Montana (3rd round) and Tom Brady (6th round). Who knows what happens next week, much less 1,3, 5 years down the road, but Eason and Fromm both have the chance to be good college and pro QBs, even if they don’t have identical skill sets.

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            • DoubleDawg1318

              Fromm is a clipboard holder in the NFL at best. He’s too short and his arm is too weak to thrive in the NFL. People compare him to Murray and Murray was never anything more than a 3rd stringer in the NFL. Eason on the other hand has the talent to be a starter. I’m hoping Eason reclaims the job by the time Jacksonville arrives because we’re going to need his arm to beat the better teams on our schedule.

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              • PTC DAWG

                Coaches are gone play who they think is the best. Kirby don’t do favorites…it’s Fromm’s team now.

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              • Servicestaff

                Being the better NFL prospect is not a viable reason for Kirby to make the change. Eason will have to earn it. I think he could but I am not sure he will get a chance.

                Btw who was QB last time we went to the SEC championship?

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      • dawgman3000

        If I recall correctly, Peyton Manning didn’t have a strong arm and I think he had a decent college and NFL career.

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  18. Alabama is proof that most of the elite players want competition. Most on aren’t their level because they think like Dodd.

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  19. dubyadee

    I don’t follow recruiting before signing day, but, since this was such big news, I looked up some game tape from so far this year. He runs like Cam Newton (gliding gate, sneaky fast, hard to bring down). He also has Newton’s unfortunate propensity to hold the ball away from his body. He has a big arm too, but nothing suggests that he has ever had to go through progressions.

    As a freshman, he could be devastating running zone reads and RPOs in a limited role. But I think he will need a year or two to be ready to take over an offense.

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    • DoubleDawg1318

      I think your second paragraph is spot on.

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    • WF Dawg

      Your last paragraph is exactly what I have in mind for next year. The winner of Fromm-Eason starts, but we bring in Fields for special packages/situations. The QB position ought to be an incredible strength next year.

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    • Otto

      Your 2nd paragraph was something I was getting at. Further that gets him on the field and who is to say once he gets on the field, he doesn’t steadily show he deserves to be there more.

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  20. Dog in Fla

    “Why is he coming to Georgia in the first place?”

    Let Butch explain

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  21. Irwin R. Fletcher

    Dennis Dodd …’College Football’ writer

    ‘Fields curious decison’
    ‘Harbaugh loses’
    ‘Minkah Fitzpatrick interest story’
    ‘Louisville’s Sanctions’
    ‘Chip Kelly article’…wait, wut?
    ‘Hot Seat article’
    ‘Orgeron/Aleva article’
    Dan Mullen, Butch Jones, Mike Riley, Urban Meyer, Kevin Sumlin…..blah blah blah blah blah

    First off…he’s a tabloid writer, not a college football writer.

    Second, you don’t write that many articles about coaches if you aren’t plugged in with agents and coaches. And yet…we are to expect his HOT TAKE on a single recruit that comes out of no where wasn’t a favor? Malarkey.

    I also love how he interviews Simmons instead of his colleague at CBS, Rusty Mansell, who has the relationship with Fields and his family and would most certainty be able to explain the decision better. I guess that would make it less ‘curious’ though and spoil the point of having a HOT TAKE rather than actually doing real journalism and reporting on a story.

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    • Macallanlover

      Hadn’t thought about that last point, it really didn’t make sense. Must have thought it gave the remarks more credibility to go with the guy who had a bigger title. Or, given the state of “journalism” these days, just went with the source who would support the narrative, as he sees it.

      I check CBS’ “expert picks” each week against the spread. Pretty sure both Barton and Dodd have yet to pick UGA to cover a single game, not one. Hasn’t helped their record much since the Dawgs have covered every game but one. Must be some hate going on there. Gotta love the media professionalism these days.

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  22. fred russo

    I love it however, i for the life of me just can not understand his coming to UGA!

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  23. lakedawg

    Kid is a baseball player also, and depending on how well he does there, they pay big bucks also.

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