Shelley Meyer is pointed to and stared at.

You had to know letting yourself get painted into a corner equating Colin Kaepernick and Aaron Hernandez wouldn’t be a good look.

Bless your heart.  Maybe the next time your hubby warns about the perils of social media, you ought to listen.  In the meantime, I’m sure a lot of his players appreciate your thoughtful sentiment.

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102 responses to “Shelley Meyer is pointed to and stared at.

  1. Normaltown Mike

    I don’t get the Aaron Hernandez connection – maybe I misread.

    She made a Tim Tivo connection, FWIW.

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  2. MLB2

    What is more frequent? Crimes against women by professional athletes or instances of police brutality against minorities.

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  3. Bill Glennon

    Where did she compare Kapernick to Hernandez? I don’t see that in her tweets at all?

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    • I changed links to make it clearer.

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      • To be fair, someone asked a direct question about Hernandez. She didn’t make a direct comparison as in X is like Y… Just that he too made poor decisions. As much as I like to see that family sweat a little, I think we’ve got a little bit of a mountain out of a molehill situation here.

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        • Right. That’s why she deleted.

          When you use the word “too”, how is that not a direct comparison?

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          • I see your point, but in my opinion she was not directly comparing Kap’s “poor decisions” to the decision to murder someone. If she had come out on her own and made that comparison without being directly asked about Hernandez I might buy that narrative.

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          • Bill Glennon

            She’s not comparing the acts, she’s simply suggesting that they both made bad decisions.

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            • ChiliDawg

              And you don’t see the problem with calling a peaceful protest of racial inequality a “bad decision” in the same vein that murdering someone is a bad decision?

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              • Bill Glennon

                You should take a logic course and step off the soap box for a second.

                I don’t have any problem with his views and peaceful protests. He did it at work though, and the employer can sanction that. There is no free speech right at work. He also wore pig socks and a Castro shirt. Those were bad decisions. When a business’s customers don’t like the messages employees are sending, the employer doesn’t have to retain the employee.

                He made a decision and it alienated people who now don’t want to deal with him. He didn’t think through that very well. If you want him to be your hero, then have at it.

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              • Napoleon BonerFart

                Meyer didn’t even call his decision a bad one. She simply implied that she had no sympathy for him because his decision to protest had the consequence of his unemployment.

                FWIW, I support his decision to kneel during the anthem. But I also don’t think that the NFL owes him a job.

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                • DaddyRichATL

                  The NFL does not owe him a job; however the kind of collusion (if he can prove it) it takes to shut him out of a job is illegal in this country.

                  Not saying this is your position, but when people are more irate about an individual’s private expectations than corporations potentially breaking the laws of the land, there’s more than meets the eye.

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                  • Napoleon BonerFart

                    If the owners colluded, then bust them. But it’s probably more likely that they all recognized a toxic player with limited talent.

                    If Payton Manning had taken a knee fine years ago, I think he would have still had a contract offer or two.

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      • Bill Glennon

        They both did make bad choices. She is not equating murder to exercising one’s first amendment rights.

        Emotional statements read out of context are the mother’s milk of clickbait.

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        • ChiliDawg

          Rosa Parks made a “bad decision” to move to the front of the bus.

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          • Bill Glennon

            If you are comparing Kapernick to Rosa Parks, you have lost all credibility in this “comparison” thread.

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          • Cojones

            I agree with your posts, Chili, but you shouldn’t use the Rosa Parks analogy. She wasn’t seated in the front of the bus, but rather was in the first seats of the “colored” section and was told to move back when a white man got on the crowded bus. That’s much more egregious than her having been in the “white” section and told to move.

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            • ChiliDawg

              Sorry for the error.

              I’m not comparing Kaepernick to Rosa Parks as a person. I’m comparing the attitude of cynical white people in that time to now. It is exactly the same. “Comply with our demands of social conformity or be ostracized.” Bad decisions. That’s a phrase often used to blame the victim of racism for the actions of the racists. Philando Castile – “he shouldn’t have reached for his wallet.” “Kaepernick shouldn’t have knelt.”

              OR – maybe hypocritical white people shouldn’t seek to purge the world of all that clashes with their dogmatic beliefs. In a world where people possessed empathy and the capacity for discourse, Kaepernick would be on a team, because owners wouldn’t fear backlash for a player having an unpopular opinion. Alas, that is not the world we live in. Hopefully one day it is.

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              • I’m fairness these are not merely issues of race they are issues of people:

                If she didn’t want to be raped….

                If he wanted to eat he’d get a job…

                If he didn’t want AIDS he shouldn’t have had unprotected sex…

                If she wasn’t a whore she wouldn’t be pregnant…

                Everybody has to be accountable for their choices but that doesn’t mean that we can’t empathize with people. There’s a basic lack of empathy among too many people that transcends race, economics, and education. Race is just one of the more transparent and frequent examples. People simply don’t want to have to care about or have empathy for their fellow man and especially one that doesn’t look like them or pray to the same God they pray to. It’s so much easier to judge and to demean. Understanding and humanity and commonality all yield to some form of intolerance and hostility.

                After all, if some qb in 1969, all of whom were white btw, had done what Colin did over Vietnam do you really think the reaction would have been any different among white people? Especially if Nixon had fanned the flames? It wouldn’t have been. They were shooting unarmed white kids on campuses and getting away with it. That was even cheered on by many “patriots.”

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                • ChiliDawg

                  That’s a good point, Derek. Though it wasn’t my point to blame racism for all of these issues, it was more the cynical lack of empathy. Race I think makes it easier for people to de-humanize others though. A white QB criticizing Vietnam likely wouldn’t have received favorable treatment, but it likely would have been far better than that of a black Qb with the same message.

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              • Sides

                When you say “hypocritical white people” are you talking about people on this message board who disagree with you? How do you know they are white? Just by how they type?

                Why say hypocritical white people when you could have just said people? Its not just white people who seek to purge the world of all that clashes with their dogmatic beliefs. You are showing yourself to be a racist.

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                • Cojones

                  He used examples of “hypocritical white people” and their actions. Didn’t see where he said “only”.

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                • ChiliDawg

                  Why say hypocritical white people when you could have just said people?

                  Because it’s overwhelmingly white people who recoil at the phrase black lives matter and it’s overwhelmingly white people who feign outrage over the nfl protests. You won’t find many minority people who refuse to admit police brutality and racial inequality in the justice system is a problem.

                  you are showing yourself to be a racist

                  I’m white, so I’m not sure how criticizing my own demographic makes me a racist, but whatever.

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              • Cojones

                Chili, please read again and note where and how I used the word “egregious”. I’m in full agreement with your posts and was expressing that the situation was worse than we usually express when we say “moving from the ‘white’ section to the ‘colored’ section”.

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            • DaddyRichATL

              Her decision not to give up her seat is the issue at hand, not where she was seating. It was just as defiant as seating in front of the bus – no more, no less.

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  4. Hillbilly Dawg

    No comparison: Kaepernick was just a better than average QB ion a WAC team..that’s right; WAC, while Hernandez was a all-American/All SEC stud TE for a national championship team. ( did I go too far?)

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  5. Got Cowdog

    Would this blog be considered social media?

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  6. Jack Burton

    🙄

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  7. southernlawyer11

    This whole thing is tiresome. Hernandez is a criminal, Kapernick is an idiot and she needs a better filter.

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  8. wewoof

    I heard Hernandez called Kapernick to see if the two of them can hang out together …..I’m done here

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    • Go Dawgs!

      You misspelled “I’m dumb here.” And you should have decided you were done well before you posted that racist comment.

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      • Dear Go Dawgs! you are living breathing example of what is wrong with the twitterverse ; you lack a sufficient number of brain cells to recognize a pun or humor : you don’t have a clue as to the true definition of racism : you make everything unnecessarily personal and you would never have the nerve to question my intelligence if you were standing in front of me…now piss off.

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  9. Hogbody Spradlin

    Mrs. Corch shows her ass almost as well as Mr. Corch.

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    • Cojones

      Hey! Get off her ass. She works late at night tending to her husband who has major palpitations immediately after losing to Bama in the SECCG. And then had to keep working while he was “retired” for three months. And then was forced to Ohio to live. During that time, Urban’s insensitivity toward others was bound to rub off on her. Just stop it!

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  10. kckd

    Someone should’ve asked her about Urban providing them the kind of environment where there were little consequences for choices made.

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  11. Bright Idea

    Green Bay coach getting caught in this same trap regarding Keapernick. Media asked him if he would sign Kaepernick and he replied he was sticking with the QBs he had. Headlines immediately spun it as a shot at Keapernick. Nobody can win this argument with twitter and the media. There’s a “gotcha” in every question.

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  12. SCIllinois

    First, the people splitting logic hairs here are infuriating. Shelley Meyer is drawing a similarity between Kap and AH. Period.

    She should have said “No. Murder isn’t protest.” Like any sane person. If you found it easy to mentally compare murder with Kap’s protest, just like Shelley Meyer did, then ask yourself why it wasn’t easier to immediately realize that those two things are oceans apart.

    Second, Kap’s protest brings attention to a legit issue that is more important than whether you stand while singing a song at an NFL game. Period.

    Put down knee-jerk reactions. Stop choosing your position based on whether it matches Trump or Obama’s. Take a step back and evaluate based on your personal values.

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    • SCIllinois

      Further proof of the first part: She has since posted a “sorry not sorry” apology. She should have said “I don’t equate murder and protest. I’m sorry if my tweet came across that way.” Instead, she vague-asses some spew.

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    • Napoleon BonerFart

      The similarity that she drew was recognizing that both CK’s protests and AH’s murders were the result of choices. Are you disputing that? Why? It seems to me to be inarguable.

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      • This isn’t hard. The implication is that both were bad choices. I would imagine a number of people would disagree with that, something she apparently realized, since she withdrew her tweets.

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        • Napoleon BonerFart

          It’s not hard to see what you want to see. She implied that CK’s unemployment was (at least in part) a consequence of his choice to protest. I didn’t see a moral judgment either way. When prompted about AH’s actions, she stated that he made the choice to murder people. Like CK, he also faced the consequences of his choice.

          So, in the way that all conscious actions are the result of choices made by individuals, yes CK’s and AH’s actions are similar in that very limited way.

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  13. Don in Mar-a-Lago

    She’s a lot like me. She has the empathy of a cockroach or, as we like to call them at Club Mar-a-Lago, palmetto bugs. I like it when they swarm over turtles.

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  14. Rp

    “Kap’s protest brings attention to a legit issue that is more important than whether you stand while singing a song at an NFL game.”

    He’s doing important work. Before his protest, I had no idea that some people thought America was racist.

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    • SCIllinois

      @Rp

      There’s no denying that he increased national dialogue around racial differences in police brutality. Look no further than this blog.

      I also don’t really get your point. Are you saying “We all know racism exists, so he should shut up and stand up while I sing the anthem”? Or are you saying “It’s ok for Shelley Miles to tip-toe around comparing his protest to murder”? Think about your values and take a specific stance.

      If I’m misreading your post, then I apologize. But it read to me like snark without a point, over an issue that affects thousands of people every day.

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  15. If you want to make a comparison to a former UF player than its to Tebow. If Tebow weren’t such a distraction for any team, he’d have remained in the league too wearing a ball cap and collecting a check.

    It goes both ways. If you’re not one of the 10 best players in the league, you don’t get to be whatever you want to be. Tom Brady could take a dump on the flag pregame on the 50 yard line and he’d play after a brief but contrite apology. Its like one GM said: if you’re 6′ 4″ 240 and run a 4.3 and you’re caught eating a corpse, it would be labeled an eating disorder.

    In short, Colin isn’t out because of what he did. He’s out because he’s not good enough to survive what he did AND it doesn’t help him in the least that he’s the QB i.e., face of the franchise. If he were a LG he’d be on a roster.

    The NFL is a unique creature: Socialism for the owners and extreme, soulless market economics for the employees.

    There are costs to conscientious protest. Ask Ali. Doesn’t make it right, but it is what it is.

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  16. and things remain the same on this blog and comments went as expected. Ms. Meyer should know how powerful social media is these days. Maybe she learned—-Do not talk about someone who murdered someone at the same time as one doing peaceful protest. Yep, a choice to murder someone is the same as kneeling.

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  17. Hal Welch

    I’m no Meyer fan but those are horse shit comparisons… She said they all made choices which is true.

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    • Cojones

      Kaepernick chose to protest injustice. He is being punished for it by those who believe there is no injustice and whose perception should be changed if we are to have social justice. Are they going to wait until social injustice strikes them and their loved ones before they can empathize with what we view each day? Just because social injustice isn’t happening to whites now doesn’t mean it can’t in the future when the Black, Latino and Asian vote together become the majority that your grandchildren and great grandchildren may have to face as revenge injustice.

      Why in hell is a kneeling protest, when the National Anthem is played, a slur on patriotism? Kneeling is a pacifist action that’s easily identified with the religious process of kneeling. Kaepernick selected the perfect way to protest without showing disrespect, but a POTUS has interjected because he thinks that this stroke for his base is more important than protest of social injustice in our America. This from a guy who is unfamiliar with a Bible and fought four times to dodge the draft and not put his life in danger for his country.

      Those of you who give thanks while seated around a table had better begin kneeling on the floor before dinner before our ignorant POTUS begins to characterize it for you as unchristian. How dare you disrespect our Lord by staying seated while praying. Sheesh!

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      • Sides

        “He is being punished for it by those who believe there is no injustice and whose perception should be changed if we are to have social justice.”

        Are you so naïve that you don’t realize that nearly every person in the world experiences “injustice”? It doesn’t matter what your race, religion, or sexual orientation is, there is injustice in the world. Social justice is just something useful idiots preach about to make themselves feel good.

        “Just because social injustice isn’t happening to whites now doesn’t mean it can’t in the future when the Black, Latino and Asian vote together become the majority that your grandchildren and great grandchildren may have to face as revenge injustice.”

        Are you that wrecked by white guilt that you are scared of revenge injustice? Maybe this piece of information will calm your fears. Black people are all different. Latino people are all different. Asian people are all different. White people are all different. People, even if they are the same race, have different opinions and vote for different reasons.

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  18. doofusdawg

    There needs to be a Billy Jack Dawg for the political posts on this site.

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  19. Adawg

    Am I the only one seeing this weird ring through everyone’s noses??

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