Stay classy, Texas A&M.
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People suck. I hope coach Sumlin has a $20mil buyout.
Pretty close. I believe it’s around $12 million. The brutal part for TAMU is that his contract requires it be paid as a lump sum, not over time.
Hey, nothing a few dicks, with enough hard-networked money to own a WWII tank, can’t round up by passing the hat a “how can we grift another $500 mill out of Texas taxpayers next year” Christmas party.
Their boosters are a massive red flag to any coach with the competence to run a program that large. I hope they land an average coach with an exceptional agent. I hate it that we let these dicks into conference.
Kevin Sumlin lacked that competence. He is well paid, and lots of people hear rumors of layoffs and firings in the real world without the same safety net of the A&M staff. Further, unless they have been oblivious to the circumstances or hopelessly naive, this is not a surprise.
As I mentioned Monday, Bruce Feldman noted that since TAMU joined the conference, only three SEC teams (Alabama, LSU and Georgia) have won more games than the Aggies have under Sumlin.
What’s your definition of competence?
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Plus, ATM is in the SEC West with Bama, Auburn and LSU. Kind of hard competition.
More than 8 wins a season.
Nothing like cherry picking random stats that in and of themselves are not particularly informative or reflective of the central question. The fact that most SEC programs have had more peaks and vallies doesn’t mean Sumlin is a good or even competent head coach. It simply means Sumlin has sustained mediocrity as others have faltered.
I wasn’t jumping your case, merely trying to gauge the criteria of your definition.
Understood…to answer your question. “On a path that a reasonable person would consider is leading to consistent national championship contention.”
If I am a t a program that has resources and potential of an “elite” program, I expect my coach to achieve it. If he doesn’t, next man up!
Obviously, that can lead to unwanted depths and can cause instability (see Tennessee) but mediocrity is not a sustainable place in modern college football.
I don’t have a problem calling Sumlin competent. Problem is you need more than competency to win the SEC West.
You must also have a rabbits foot, conveniently blind referees, an asshole fan-base and the best players money can buy.
Or you can be Alabama.
In order to win the West you need Saban to die or retire. Only 3 guys have won the SEC West, other than Saban, since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa: Lester Miles (he got fired for not beating Saban enough), Gene Chizic (he got fired, too) and Gus Malzahn (the Barners were gonna fire him until his team beat Georgia and the jury is still out if he loses big in this year’s Iron Bowl). The SEC West is a tough place to coach no matter how good you are or were before. Just ask 3 time Big 10 Championship winning coach Bret Bielema. The only safe guy in the West is Dan Mullen because the Missy State people have no expectations and every time the Bizzaro Dogs go to a bowl they are thrilled.
He’s fine, but would you regard a .500 record in conference play as enough to keep a job if he was coaching Georgia? I honestly don’t understand why people defend Sumlin so much.
I wasn’t defending his record, just trying to define competent, or, as you call it, “fine”. 😉
You hate that they were let into the conference because they fired sumlin?? A lot more successful coaches have been fired around here with the same type of boosters..
I’ve heard that teams in the SEC have fired a coach averaging 10 wins a season.
They are a more self-absorbed UT.
Desperately Seeking the Apex Predator in the Wild Wild West
In all candor, I’m not sure Fisher is much of an upgrade.
40-23 over last five seasons, but 19-20 in the SEC with 4th, 6th, 5th, and 4th place division finishes.
If they beat LSU, it could get them as high as 3rd in the West and get them a 5-3 conference record with a shot at a 9-win season in the bowl. With the attrition they’ve had at QB, going from 6th>5th>4th>3rd(?) is steady progress in a tough division.
If they lose, they would be 4-4 in conference for the third straight year, finish 5th in the division, and need a bowl win to get their fourth consecutive 8-5 season. No momentum. No sign of anything being different, and being 19-21 in the SEC the last five years.
To me, the narrative is entirely dependent on the outcome of the games on Saturday. The real question, though, is who is A&M? Are they a team that is competing for the division with Alabama/Auburn/LSU every year? They haven’t done that the last five seasons. I understand why they want a new regime. Jimbo Fisher or Bobby Petrino or Mike Leach might could do things there.
Welcome to the SEC. The real question is why would Sumerlin GAS if he is let go. 12 million cash is a nice parting gift. The next school will get a bargain hire since Sumerlin won’t need much money. By the way the talk out of A&M is the players are beyond pissed and may not give it their all this week.
TAMU alumni are moneyed and politically connected. Third or worse in the SECW is nowhere near where they think they should be. They will do what it takes to buy their way into a championship and fear that Texas is closer with both a good coach and easier path in the Big12.
What they ought to do is hire Steve Patterson as a new and improved AD. Then they blow Reveille and enhance the Aggie brand by having Joe Barton make an offer that Tom Herman can’t refuse.
“I don’t mess with Jack,” Smart said of the player named the Peach Bowl offensive MVP.. “I don’t mess with kickers. I let them do their thing. Probably the best thing to happen is he didn’t have long to think about it.” — AB-H, 1/1/21
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