Is Jake Fromm still wide-eyed?

Jeez, David Hale.

2. College Football Playoff at the Rose Bowl Game presented by Northwestern Mutual: No. 3 Georgia vs. No. 2 Oklahoma

(Jan. 1, 5 p.m. ET on ESPN at Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California)

Georgia hasn’t faced a QB quite like Baker Mayfield all year. Mayfield hasn’t seen a defense as tough as Georgia’s. The Sooners’ defense has been questioned, while Bulldogs QB Jake Fromm needs to prove a true freshman is ready for the big stage. It’s a matchup of contrasts that should be a whole lot of fun to watch.

“Jake Fromm needs to prove a true freshman is ready for the big stage”?  After winning at Notre Dame in his first start and the SECCG in his last, we’re still left to wonder if Fromm can handle the bright lights?

At some point, Fromm deserves the benefit of the doubt with regards to his composure.  I’d say after thirteen games, he’s earned that much.  Look, he may flop for all I know when he plays in the Rose Bowl, but it won’t be because he’s overwhelmed by the setting.

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54 responses to “Is Jake Fromm still wide-eyed?

  1. Was the media talking about Jalen Hurts being overwhelmed by the moment last year? Hale is being lazy.

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  2. TnDawg

    For some reason, those up north and out west think the Rose Bowl is the biggest game in college ball. Don’t know where Hale hails from, but probably buys into that crap.

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    • Hale used to be our beat writer with one of the Georgia papers.

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      • Got Cowdog

        Correct on both. UGA beat writer and lazy.
        I can’t shake this feeling that OK is in over their heads. Little Munson is quiet and that’s odd. I’m going to see if I can find one of their games online to see what they look like, wake him up a little.

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        • 92 grad

          I haven’t seen much of them either but what I have seen so far is that baker benefits mostly from plays that develop quickly and get busted, then it’s just scramble and throw to a receiver either coming back or breaking away. Looks like neighborhood games where everybody just runs around until the qb decides to wing it.

          Oversimplification, but I haven’t really watched them. I know they’re good and have a sharp HC. Really, we all can tell when we see a specific play run from the snap and we can tell when the play has run itself to the end. What happens when a play has ended and the qb still has the ball is what I’ve seen from OU.

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        • Russ

          I’m guessing you haven’t watched a lot of Oklahoma. Their offense (and Mayfield) can be pretty impressive, better than anything we’ve seen. Their offense seems to be the typical Big 12 “defense”, though. We should be able to run on them and move the ball.

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          • Russ

            Dammit – their defense seems to be the typical Big 12 “defense”, though.

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          • Got Cowdog

            I acknowledged my lack of knowledge in my post. So did 92. However, UGA’s defense has rendered some highly touted running threat QB’s ineffective this season. Wimbush, Fitzgerald, Stidham, the kid from tech, and don’t forget Taylor Lamb from Appy State. He ain’t no turkey.
            My point is, you’re not going to beat Georgia with your QB alone. In a league where there isn’t a lot of defense (rumored) Georgia will be a different kind of animal for Mr. Mayfield. Hell, one of the tackles ran down the Auburn slot back from behind in the SECCG, and caught him four yards past the line of scrimmage. Even Gary commented on that one. On offense, have they played an O-Line (!Take that 2016!) or a stable of backs like they will see against Georgia?
            Wow, this is some good kool aid. Yummy. 🙂

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    • Comment after comment from people who can’t wait to go to the Rose Bowl and it’s “crap” huh. Bend over, grab your ears and pull your head out of your ass.

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    • Rose Bowl is special. No denying that.

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    • Macallanlover

      Some just don’t realize the SECCG is bigger than the Rose Bowl, at least almost every single one ever played in Pasadena. This particular one will join 2005’s Rose Bowl as something special and unique but I don’t fear Jake changing his demeanor or approach. Hale once showed a better understanding of CFB than he demonstrates in this piece.

      Also it is about time folks realized Jake isn’t a freshman any longer, and he can throw the ball very well, when his two, over-protective guardians let him. 🙂

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      • FisheriesDawg

        By my count, the winner of the Rose Bowl has won the national title 24 times since it started (by name) in 1923. That’s not counting several more that were already named national champs and lost the Rose Bowl.

        The winner of the SECCG has won the national title ten times since 1992. That’s an excellent rate, but the SECCG still has a ways to go before it can carry the weight of the Rose Bowl.

        (YMMV. I put a LOT of weight into tradition when it comes to CFB)

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        • Erk's Forehead

          By your traditional logic, the Rose Bowl produces a National Champ every 4 Rose Bowls on average. The winner of the SECCG goes on to win the NC every 2.5 SECCG’s on average. According to this, if the SECCG were as old as the Rose Bowl, the SECCG would have produced 38 National Champions compared to the Rose Bowl 24.

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        • Russ

          I agree with you on the tradition of CFB. It’s why I watch it. And the Rose Bowl is kind of a big deal.

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        • Macallanlover

          I love college traditions as much as anyone. You completely missed my point. To state it directly, Fromm isn’t going to be any more phased about playing in the Rose Bowl than he was the SECCG. He didn’t grow up watching Rose Bowls for the past 100 years, and in the state of Georgia you grow up dreaming of winning the SECCG. Not against the RB at all, just think the SECCG is the more compelling match up over the last 25 years…especially for those growing up in the Southeast. In fact, it was usually the least interesting of the Big 4 bowls every New years Day behind the Sugar, Orange, and Cotton. When they added the Fiesta and Peach on NYD, it became 7th, to me, when looking for interesting games. But, they won the parade.

          And comparing the number of Rose Bowls producing MNCs is silly,m which has been around longer, and limited to two conferences which were protected from all other challengers. How many times did the Big 2/Little 8 winner win a MNC because they had to win 1-2 significant games the entire season? Always been a pet peeve of mine and why I don’t put that much stock in any MNC before the bowl arrangements were weakened and teams had to face

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          • Erk's Forehead

            Agreed. Also, the SECCG tix were @ 1200-1500 a pair. Rose Bowl tix are between @ 425-600 a pair. Maybe not exact numbers, but even leaving room for significant error….it sums it up.

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  3. Gaskilldawg

    Fromm is 6th nationally in passer rating, ahead of Will Grier at WVU, J . T . Barrett at OSU, Jalen Hurts, Heisman Throphy winner Lamar Jackson, Jake Browning at Washington, Sam Darmold at USC, Kenny Hill at TCU, and Kelly Bryant at Clemson. Does Hale think Barrett still has to prove he is ready for the big time?

    From’ rating is 168.18. Kelly Bryant is 47th nationally at 138.08. Is Hale going to say Clemson’s QB needs to prove he can do it on the big stage?

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  4. 92 grad

    Its going to be a loooong month. There will be enough time and material published about this game it likely will create its own news cycle and conclusions will be made that run in circles. Fromm will be a junior by the time the game is played.

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  5. JG Shellnutt

    They have to write something.
    This is an easy an convenient narrative.

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  6. simpl_matter

    Dude was groomed for the main stage early in life. He needs to spend the next 26 days either on the practice field or in a deer stand, stay away from all the talk. I think Jake from state Fromm keeps chopping wood and the D-Line grinders prove they are some first-round moneymakers. @AU will be looked back upon as a blessing in disguise….

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  7. HiAltDawg

    Jake “America’s Sweetheart” Fromm at 11 yrs old managed to thrive in Little League Baseball politics and mania with the WWL’s cameras rolling. He probably handles the “Big”‘Stage” just fine.

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    • J-Dawg

      Jake is the 2nd coming of Aaron Murray and even looks like him. I’m not worried about him but I think our OC might be. It’s time to take the leash off him and just let him do his thing. It was a thing of beauty when Aaron took over a game and it will be with Jake. Let the boy loose!

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      • HiAltDawg

        2nd Coming? Those of us that have been in the Arena know he already has a ring gathering dust. I Keed, I Keed. Interestingly, Fromm was 350ish passing yards less than Stafford in ’07 with more TD’s and less interceptions. Then I looked at Murray’s FR stats and see where you’re coming from.

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  8. The problem with Fromm as QB is we just can’t count on him to run the 2 minute offense right before halftime. Of course, Chaney not giving him the opportunities to do so. Perplexing.

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    • 92 grad

      It only takes about 4 seconds to run the flea flicker. What else do we need?

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      • Macallanlover

        We don’t even try that before halftime. I have said before, I don’t think KS understands that points scored in the last 2 minutes of the half actually count.

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        • Well of course he does.

          But, we generally have been in control of most games or controlling it (like Secc) . No need to make a foolish mistake and give Auburn cheap momentum.

          Kirby could see we were whipping up on Aubie despite the close score. And saw a wounded Kerryon.

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  9. kfoge

    As far as being overwhelmed, I read an article yesterday (can’t remember where) and it was talking about when Eason got hurt in the first game and a coach went over to get Fromm ready and “composed” and Fromm smiled and winked at him. The dude (Fromm) doesn’t get wide-eyed and overwhelmed. Any mistake he makes will be from lack of knowledge (reading defenses, etc) not from being scared or overwhelmed.

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    • Huntindawg

      Kfoge thanks for that. Fromm winking at the coach before going in is a great story.

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    • Lack of experience is Fromm’s ONLY weakness, dude!
      Fromm isn’t short on knowledge of any phase of the game, nor in how to read defenses or when to change a play at the line.
      He started classes in January, and knew the playbook as well as Eason by G-Day. He was breaking down film and answering questions in the QB room faster than Eason was during spring practice.
      He started the US Army All-America game because he was the only kid who knew the plays. He learned all of the limited playbook two days after they gave it to him.
      He is not getting the recognition he deserves for his contribution to the success of his team… and to his credit, he doesn’t want it.

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  10. Castleberry

    Pretty much cements my theory that the sports media at-large isn’t watching the games. They look at box scores and follow along with whatever uninformed narrative Joey Galloway is spitting.

    Unrelated side note. The game time in your post reminded me. Game is 2 PM PT. It didn’t occur to me initially when booking travel, but folks will want to take that into account if they’re staying in Vegas, San Diego, etc. You will be up EARLY on 1/1 if you are planning to ride over that day.

    Unrelated side note two: Can we get a follow up on the cord cutting experiment??

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  11. Gravidy

    I’m a big fan of David Hale. I really enjoyed his time as a UGA beat writer. I always thought he was diligent, insightful, and funny. But that is just lazy. He’s better than that.

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    • Russ

      Agree on both counts.

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    • The Dawg abides

      Yeah I’m a little surprised. He had a great rapport with fans and really seemed to love Athens. So good in fact that Seth was behind the eight ball with fans from day one when he replaced him at the Macon Telegraph. Seth has really grown into a solid reporter and I admire him for not turning into a click-bait hack like others at the AJC.

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  12. Scorpio Jones, III

    Its really too early for this, but didn’t Okie Dokie score like 104 points on somebody in the first half? Remember….Mizzou scored 28. And, rumor has it that Awbun scored some in the warm up game at Awbun.

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    • Easy, big fella. You’ve got three weeks to fret. Best pace yourself.

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      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Its never too early to practice.

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        • OU will score some points against us, but they are not going to blow up the scoreboard against our defense, I can promise you that.
          They, however, had better figure out a way to keep us out of the end zone. If we run the ball like we’re capable of doing, like we have most every game this season… and if Fromm tosses a couple more TD’s …it could get real ugly for them, real quick.

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  13. Cousin Eddie

    Will Fromm still be a freshman two years from now? He has played an entire season, he ain’t a Freshman any more.

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  14. whb209

    If you watched Fromm for just the last 4:30 min. of the ND game, it would be very hard to repeat the BS about being a freshman and having no big game experience. While I was worried about the coaching staff having a mental breakdown during that last drive, Fromm was cool as could be and took the team down the field to a winning FG. All season he did everything asked of him and at this time of the year he is no longer a freshman.

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  15. The Dawg abides

    Here’s some interesting news that could still be having an effect in a few weeks. UCLA has cancelled all activities including a basketball game tonite because of the wildfires in SocCal.

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