To everything…

… churn, churn, churn.

I wonder how many of those 43 are represented by Jimmy Sexton.  He owes Saban a commission.

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27 responses to “To everything…

  1. Greg

    Thinks the lifeblood (recruiting) of the SEC is getting tougher, especially in the east. Don’t look for Saban to dominate the way he once did. His job just got harder imo…would be surprised if he stays any more than 2 years. Time for it to cycle again…

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    • Sounds like wishful thinking…

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      • Greg

        As opposed to being pessimistic???……Things change, my man….go back and look. Or don’t, just continue to think that you are always right…kinda cute imo. God bless you.

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        • You always have to make things personal with people who question your opinions, don’t you…

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          • Greg

            Well there you go “projecting” again, Senator. I guess it works for you…entertaining for me. Keep on posting….best blog on “these here internets”. Go ahead, you can have the last word…….it is the least I can do.

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      • Dave

        There’s some truth to what he says, but I don’t think it will be quite that simple.

        From recruiting alone, the SEC has done well as a whole:

        2015) Bama 1, 4 other SEC teams in top 10
        2016) Bama 1, 4 other SEC teams in top 10
        2017) Bama 1, 3 other SEC teams in top 10 (4 in top 11)

        The thing is, there wasn’t one specific SEC team right behind Bama each year, so the elite talent has been dissipated.

        2017-2018 should be interesting. Georgia was right there at 3 last year, and if we finish like we’re hoping, we’re looking at being #3 at worst again. Bama will finish strong, but I’m not sure they can pull out a #1 ranking again.

        One thing I think we can all agree on is that Saban wouldn’t/won’t have quite the domination if they are hanging around top 5 classes with a couple other teams topping them in recruiting every year or two.

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        • Kirby Smart’s brought in two fantastic classes and Saban’s topped him both times.

          It’s one thing to say the gap may narrow a bit, although I’m not ready to predict that Pruitt’s going to have a recruiting juggernaut at UT. It’s totally another to argue that in two short years, Saban’s going to throw his hands up in despair and walk away.

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          • Dave

            I agree, but there’s also the issue of his age, and what he’s accomplished. i also believe he has his legacy in mind (as I would if I’d achieved success on that level). He’s 66 now, and if the writing is on the wall that they are coming up on a rebuilding year rather than a reloading year, well, we’ll see.

            He’s an extremely intelligent and forward thinking man. I wouldn’t put a two-year time frame on it necessarily, but I also think that, if he sees a slight slip in recruiting, he may consider going out on top, or at least, close to the top over the next few years if he senses this level of dominance coming to an end.

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            • … and if the writing is on the wall that they are coming up on a rebuilding year rather than a reloading year, well, we’ll see.

              The SEC has been turning over coaches like crazy and it hasn’t touched Saban. What is it about the most current batch that’s a game changer?

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              • Dave

                I’m talking strictly recruiting, and Smart is looking to be a game-changer. I put it at 50/50 that we finish ahead of Bama this year, and very early looks at ’19 show no signs of us not battling for the #1 spot.

                I am talking 3 years from now, when Saban is knocking on the door of 70, IF they start to slip just a tad (and, let’s face it, finishing at #1 over and over is damn near impossible, which he’s accomplished), then at that point I would say it’s on the table for him to hang it up.

                None of this is a knock on him at all, but the other part is that his staff has been almost completely picked clean over and over, and sooner or later, it’s going to affect recruiting just a little bit, even though it hasn’t to this point.

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                • So, if Kirby beats Saban in the recruiting rankings for the next two or three years, but both programs finish in the top five, that’s what will drive him to retirement?

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                  • Dave

                    Obviously there wouldn’t be. If Saban finishes 5th a couple of times, and has a team that he feels isn’t going to have a QB that’s ready to lead, along with a defense that’s regressing to the mean a bit, along w/ some higher-than-average attrition, transfers, etc, then he might consider taking his leave.

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            • Greg

              ^^^ gets it….nothing is forever, but Saban has made a helluva run. You got to respect what he has done there, whether you like him or not. I would hate to be the guy going behind him (but on 2nd I thought, maybe😀). He will probably go down as the best coach in CF history.

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              • Mayor

                Saban has to win a couple of more natties to be “the best coach in CF history.” That’s why he won’t be quitting anytime soon.

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                • Greg

                  Understood…..Got a feeling it will be Bama/Georgia for the MNC this year. That game could go either way. I believe that Saban now has 5, four at Bama and 1 at LSU. I believe Bear has 6 MNC in almost twice the amount of time coaching….I believe win percent is close to the same. Hard to argue different eras, but I understand your point. If someone would ask me, I would say that Bryant was the better of the two (as of now), but it could be argued that Saban is.

                  Here is a good comparison of both coaches, this link only gives Bryant credit for 5 MNC though (1 year not recognized):

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2607016-nick-saban-vs-bear-bryant-who-is-the-best-alabama-coach.amp.html

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                  • Mayor

                    How many Mattie’s does Urban Meyer have…3? Plus, he’s younger and has a higher all-time winning percentage. I don’t see him slowing down any time soon. If the greatest coach of all time mantle falls on anyone in this generation of coaches I’m betting Meyer is the guy….much as I hate the bastard.

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  2. MooseDawg

    Looking at the Walter Camp All Americans:

    6 in the 2 deep from GA ONLY rankings

    2014 recruiting class

    #36 Orlando Brown
    #64 Bradley Chubb

    133 Michael Gallup

    BTW #136 Nick Fitzgerald

    2015 recruiting class

    #2 Mitch Hyatt
    #6 Roquan Smith
    #20- Austin Bryant

    ONE (out of 6/7) went to UGA. We did well in 2014 class (Chubb, Michel, etc) but look at who we missed!

    We can’t get them all but we need to pay attention to the outliers…who can turn into stars.

    I bet Kirby is on it….

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  3. Jack Burton

    It’s insane. My biggest concern about the Pruitt hire is that there are now 4 coaches going after the same style defensive players in a 3 state radius. I don’t think Pruitt will be a successful coach because of the CEO/PR aspect but damn he is going to try to raid our state hard.

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  4. Bright Idea

    Most of those coaches were losing to lots of coaches not named Saban too. Some just ran their programs into the ground or quit working at it (Spurrier).

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  5. W Cobb Dawg

    I’d say he owes Nick more than just a commission. Maybe name his 3rd yacht something like ’sabandipity’.

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  6. JasonC

    So Sexton, not Sankey, is the real SEC Commish.

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  7. MDDawg

    I get the point they’re trying to make with this statistic, but that number is a bit misleading. Some of the coaches were terminated for off-the-field issues (Freeze, Petrino), some retired for health reasons (Pinkel, Meyer*). And as Bright Idea pointed out above, some of them were losing to lots of other coaches besides Saban.

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  8. PharmDawg

    Is Tennessee Coach Beldar Conehead a Sexton client too?

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  9. PTC DAWG

    There is a season…

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  10. Mayor

    I guess UGA is in the top tier with only 2 coaches during that period.

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  11. Mayor

    Serious question Senator: With all the HC changes being made this season why doesn’t some school (particularly in the SEC) hire Houston Nutt? He took Arkansas to the SECCG three times. He strikes me as an ideal choice for Mississippi State, for example. Is he blackballed?

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    • 92 grad

      I do not pretend to answer in place of bluto but I do have an idea. Houston likely would be a recruiting nightmare and a university PR problem. He’s a wacky dude that is wildly inconsistent looking at his ole miss days.

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