It appears yesterday’s post about Natrez Patrick’s arrest related issues turned out to be a classic case of irrational exuberance.
Georgia linebacker Natrez Patrick has a court date for a probation violation in January after an arrest in another county triggered a government drug test that came up positive, Athens-Clarke County solicitor C.R. Chisholm said on Friday.
The test was administered after Patrick, on probation for an October misdemeanor marijuana arrest in Athens, was arrested in Barrow County on Dec. 2 for misdemeanor marijuana possession. That charge was dismissed on Thursday, and Patrick’s lawyer says Patrick passed a UGA-administered drug test within hours of the Dec. 2 arrest.
The Barrow County arrest triggered a probation violation in Athens-Clarke County, and Chisholm said the subsequent drug test was standard in such situations.
Never underestimate the power of Mudcat’s car. Damn it.
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Should Chisholm be speaking about this publicly?
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This….Sometimes I think the Athens Clarke County judicial system is run by Tech fans.
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That’s what I was wondering about. I thought it might violate HIPAA. But someone on dawgsports says that probation throws HIPAA away.
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There is a difference between a medical drug test and a legal drug test. One is protected health information between you and your doctor. The other is a matter of public record.
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So, he passes the first test within hours of the arrest, fails the second test days later and this leaves him in jeopardy? What the hell? The question seems to be, will BM allow him to remain qualified to play until the January hearing. Is that the size of it?
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The Process 1, Michael Adams 0, The Man 2.
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So I wonder what happens if UGA administers yet another test now, which he passes?
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Honestly, the kid seems to really like weed or to be in proximity of it. He’s an useful player, but I’m okay showing him the door.
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I know weed people claim that it’s not addictive, but having smoked a few times in my day, I beg to differ. At least for some people, I think it is addictive. He’s a good player, actually, and it’s too bad that we’ll probably have no choice, because he certainly makes the defense better when he’s on the field.
Plus, I just hate for his personal well-being that he can’t control this.
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Some (many) people have addictive personalities & will get “hooked” on something e.g. exercise, religion, sex, etc. I don’t think marijuana is terribly addictive, but some feel compelled to smoke it every day…
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“At least for some people, I think it is addictive.”
That is a common misunderstanding. I have friends that have been smoking for 30 years and are still not adddicted.
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All depends on how you define “addicted”, the general use of what was once considered a habit is now often called an “addiction”. Coffee, sugar, cigarettes, marijuana, etc., if indulged daily is habitual to some, but labeled addicted by others. When you have to do some one thing, even knowing the consequences for doing so will definitely hurt you, or those you care about, it is a problem. And it doesn’t matter the label assigned by others, it still can damage you, and others in some ways. Certainly some individuals are stronger than others and can control their physical/mental needs.
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You are absolutely right Mac. One of the best ways to determine if someone is addicted to a particular behavior is if they continue to indulge in that behavior despite being aware of significant negative consequences of continuing to do so. There is no question that Patrick is addicted to weed. The bullshit rationalizations of others on the blog don’t change the facts.
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Caffeine and nicotine are actually addictive, though.
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So, when you were in school and had your 5th beer (or 10th one, etc.), you were hooked? Sorry that you can’t kick pot since you smoked a few times.
I know smokers at present who feel as if they are smoking too much from time-to-time and quit for as long as they feel (days, weeks months) without a visible sign of joining in at parties where ganja is smoked. I have gone without smoking for over a few year’s time whenever I desired or felt that I needed to (or the wife asks me not to because of holidays and being around family that doesn’t, etc).
It’s possible that Patrick ate the pot that hadn’t been smoked up and it stays with him over time or he was around second-hand smoke afterwards. There are umpteen possibilities, but to say that Patrick is hooked ain’t one that suddenly comes to mind. If you like to have a beer, but don’t drink them constantly, I wouldn’t say you are hooked. If Patrick likes to be around those who smoke and has a smoke himself from time to time, I would consider that normal in today’s (and yesterday’s) college scene.
Patrick needs to make up his mind as to where he wants to be during football season and sometimes celebrations after a victory in the SECCG puts the team as a second thought. He has to keep the team paramount in his mind , even in relaxed moments when he thinks no one is around.
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Yeah.
It’s one thing to say, “This shouldn’t be a big deal.” I agree it’s debatable.
The fact is it IS a big deal as rules (and his active probation) currently stand. And if Patrick can’t get his head out of his ass and see what he’s doing to his team with his choices I have no problem with seeing him go.
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As for the cop, did he have to arrest Patrick because there was a tiny piece of marijuana leaf in the car seat he was riding in? If that’s all there was to it, it’s an insult to Mayberry to call the cop Barney. Andy and Barney always ended up doing the right thing. Is there no serious crime in Barrow County or was this a money grab? If it had been a 60 year old white male in the seat in the same circumstances, would he have been arrested? Why is the ACC solicitor out front in the media with this story? Does probation always move this fast on drug tests? There is so much about this incident that seems unwarranted and unfair. That being said, Patrick made choices that put himself in this mess.
It was painful to watch the arrest video and I’m glad I don’t have to make the decision as to Patrick’s future at UGA is. Hopefully Patrick will get his act together. I was in the coliseum yesterday watching my daughter graduate and I hope he can make it there too.
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If he’s actually guilty, fine. But there is enough ambiguity to make me wonder.
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Natrez may in fact be more trouble than he’s worth. We value him because the staff obviously values him and the depth that they enjoy with him. This story creates conflict for everybody for sure.
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Surely his teammates are in smh mode.
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So if he hadn’t been arrested to begin with would he still have taken the test for his probation? I don’t know how that works. Seems to me that if he knew he had a test upcoming he would have behaved differently.
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I think the arrest was a probation violation that triggered a test requirement.
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I say he still plays and then goes pro.
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When is his court appearance; certainly after the 1st ? Maybe after the 8th? It won’t make any difference then except to Patrick and the team and his probation officer.
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Read somewhere it is the 11th.
I have to say Patrick has now become a bigger distraction than the value of having him make the trip. We played 1/3 of the season without him, lets give the guys who care enough to follow the rules a chance to shine on the 1st and 8th.
It is also disappointing that in the 2 weeks since winning the SEC, the majority of discussion by the media regarding UGA includes the negative light caused by 3 players being foolish and brainless. You can bet this bad publicity will continue for another 2-3 weeks during broadcasts. It diminishes the accomplishments of over 100+ other players and the staff this season.
We all know that UGA has long stood tall by enforcing rules and discipline better than other programs, yet we now being referred to a school with bad behavior because we don’t sweep these incidents under the rug. I feel Patrick, at a minimum, should be shown the door.
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While disagreeing little from what you posted, my thoughts are more with the individual and what we sometimes wish for them rather than with the reality of all the circumstances.
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IDK Mac……SEC is down this year.
http://www.thefulmercup.com/standings/
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2016
http://www.thefulmercup.com/standings/2016-standings/
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But we are definitely running the two minute drill the last 2 weeks. And getting lots of publicity for our efforts. 😦
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According to his attorney, he passed the test given by the athletic department right after the arrest. The probation test came a couple of days later. So he dodged one bullet, then decided he was in the clear and blazed up again. Since the failed test wasn’t administered by the school and the probation hearing isn’t until Jan. 11, maybe they will let him play the upcoming games and then he can declare for he draft. Seems like the best thing for everybody. Now I’m worried about piss tests for the whole team after a week in California.
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They didn’t specify weed though so my question is what else do they test for and could be considered a probation violation? Is it just narcotics? Could he he have tested positive if he went out binge drinking? What about something like a prescription painkiller? Sort of grasping at straws here …
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what everyone one seems to be missing is that all tests have cut off amounts. Some of the Anytest locations have a cut-off off 50 nano-grams….meaning you can have 49 nano-grams of THC in your system and still be DEEMED clean/pass. Most employers use a 25 nano-grams cut-off. These cut-offs are used to make sure your not testing positive after going to a Widespread Panic concert ,even if you didn’t indulge.. The judicial system, or the Man as mentioned above, usually uses 15 nano-grams as a cut off The most likely scenario is that Patrick had THC,( the drug component of pot) in his system on the night of his arrest but it was a small enough quantity to be deemed a pass and than when he takes the test for the Courts 3 days later,on a half a million dollar state of the art urinalysis machine that keeps 5 to 10 county employees employed, the lower number of 15 is used as a cut-off and he suddenly is deemed to have failed even with a lower number. I doubt seriously that Patrick fired one up in the interim …he was or is just grist for the judicial mill
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What kind of pot smoker is he?
In general, here’s how long cannabis can be found in your system:
“For single use: up to 8 days
For frequent use: up to 15 days
For regular use: up to 30 days
For heavy use: up to 45-77 days
As a general guide, if you’re a regular consumer of marijuana, the chances are THC will remain in your urine for even up to a month after stopping.”
Question is can he stay until the 1-9-’18? How far are we into the process in Smarts 2nd year?
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What kind of pot smoker is he?…..only the best for our boyz….no Oconee County crap like we use to smoke …they have genetically engineered, Colorado hot house grown Maui Whoawee…..O you mean how much does he smoke …never mind.. Deny everything and make em prove it…….and the the Solicitor needs to STFU…..delay the hearing until after the Nat’l Championship game.
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“No stems no seeds that you dont need….Oconee CO. Greeene ……..is (Sssssssssssss)….bad ass weed”
Who knew?
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man this thread is makin me hungry, man
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Those figures have everything to do with your fatty tissue that stores and releases some after exercise. If Patrick and I smoked at the same time and same amount, mine would continue to show up longer than Patrick’s. When in shape, I could get rid of THC accrued in 5-7 days. I have the data from labs I’ve hired to test for presence before and after strenuous exercise before submitting to a lab test for a consulting job. Older now and with more fatty tissue, I’m glad to be retired and live life freely doing all that I enjoy.
BTW, whenever I’m headed fishing or hunting, I don’t touch ganja or booze, although I am guilty of faking it with a vodka bottle filled with water after some asshole moves within shot range on dove hunts. If you are close enough to see what I’m drinkin’, you’re too close.
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@Cojones: Nothin like raining bird shot down on some folks who get too close. Trick I learned at a very early age.
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I don’t care as long as he plays January 1.
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Here is what I said 2 days ago:
“reality check here
December 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Sorry, but I can’t help but feel the legal outcome would have been different in Athens Clarke County. Assuming he passed any drug tests administered we truly did dodge a bullet”
I believe police and solicitors in Athens Clarke County are out to get UGA football players. Before anybody tries to call me out as being soft on crime please be aware I am a former police officer.
As far as I am concerned Chisolm is a total douche bag. Patrick has been exonerated but Chisolm said to hell with prosecutorial discretion and is dragging him back in anyway. Patrick is likely to be cleared at the probation hearing but at a minimum he will miss the next 2 games and the circumstances are likely to force him to be dismissed from the team
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While I think you’re right about football players, those cops are equal opportunity in their zeal. I’ve known several students who got caught drinking underage or of age in public and they have been prosecuted to the fullest extent. When you have one government controlling city and county you need all the revenue streams you can get. Plus Clarke is the smallest in acreage in the state. Their tax rates are high as giraffe pu$$y.
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Tell him to flush flush flush and test him again
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