Chicks (and coaches) dig the deep ball.

For those of you proclaiming it’s only a matter of time before Justin Fields puts Jake Fromm’s ass on the bench, best to keep in mind there are a few hard realities that need to be taken into account.

Okay, I admit that ain’t G-Day QBR, but it’s not chopped liver, either.

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26 responses to “Chicks (and coaches) dig the deep ball.

  1. gastr1

    I thought his deep ball accuracy was outstanding, and that’s a real asset when you want to also have a real running attack.

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  2. Castleberry

    I personally have no issue with packages for both players a la Florida 2006 or Georgia 2004.
    Fromm isn’t going anywhere and he doesn’t strike me as the type that would clam up because another kid is having some success at QB.

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  3. I suspect that we’ll see some situational platooning next year at QB. As far as whose starting, Fromm, or the entire roster, would have to regress.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing us do the reverse of what Paul Deitzel did at LSU way back in the day with the “Chinese bandits.” Have a totally seperate 11 that comes in led by Fields with an entirely different offensive approach. Not in 2018, but the next year.

    I think you could drive defenses absolutely crazy with that. And then you could switch it up. Fromm starts running plays we’ve only shown with Fields and Fields run plays we’ve only shown with Fromm, all out of the same formations and personnel packages.

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  4. ASEF

    You get 20 hours a week in college. Running 2 offenses comes at a cost in execution. This idea of a Fromm offense and a Fields offense doesn’t seem very Smart.

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    • Obviously the play book would have to be entirely different in scope. We’re running other teams plays every week in scout team. A lot of the people we play do things vastly different that what we do. Adopt a few that work, you’re repping them anyway. I just want to:

      1) do a better job of utilizing the unique skills of the second guy then we did with DJ. Running the same offense that Greene ran when he came in wasn’t very effective and
      2) the other thing I don’t want to repeat is waiting until he’s a senior to get real value out of the kid.

      There’s got to be something between what Tebow did in 2005 and what we did in 2004. The former would be great in 2018, but then there’s 2 more years. My suggestion seems to get a lot of meaningful reps for guys that would otherwise be riding pine.

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      • Tim in Sav

        Greene wasn’t very effective?…….Really?

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        • Yeah that’s it. Not DJ, he was fine. Greene was the problem. So what I’m saying is treat Fields exactly like DJ, but then I worry about Fromm bc of how Greene only ended up being the winningest starter in school history. Most people wouldn’t have been able to get that out of what I was saying due to being literate. .

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  5. Got Cowdog

    Damn. Already? OK here goes………
    Fields already has all the intangibles and is a better “leader” than Fromm. His high school stats are better. His high school QBR is better. He is more mobile in the pocket, Fields is a true dual threat and can run, blah blah blah.

    With Fromm, this will be the first year UGA has started an experienced QB. (I’m not counting Eason, he got hurt immediately. But this is where the comparison is headed) It will be his second season with his OC. He has had time to learn in the system and mature, wonnnnnk wonk wonk.

    I hope the football gods are smiling on us, and we don’t have to start a true freshman again. Based on what I saw this season? Unless lightning strikes twice or Fields is truly a Marvel comic hero in disguise, Jake from State Fromm will be the staring QB this season. I for one am looking forward to it.

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    • 81Dog

      Don’t forget that, for whatever reason, Fromm’s freshman year was exponentially more productive than Eason’s. I don’t mean that in any way as a dig at Eason, either. Let the best man win, I guess, but I am already bored with the “Fields is going to unseat Fromm” line of discussion. Could he? Sure. How anyone can make that call today is beyond me. I guess the most popular guy on campus is always going to be the number 2 QB.

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  6. McTyre

    Sad but not surprising that some of the Drama Dawg and “Protoype QB” Fanboy factions of our fan base learned nothing from the 2017 season. I have no idea what’s going on at practice much less inside Kirby’s head, but a his public words and demeanor and on-the-field results suggest a few things:
    * Kirby is running a meritocracy in doling out PT rather than playing politics (upperclassmen over frosh, my guy over the previous HC’s guy, what Hartman donors or media think, etc).
    * Kirby values greatly fundamentals and FWIW most QBs under Saban have been very fundamentally sound on presnap reads-checks, decision making, throwing accuracy, etc.
    * Fromm made some big time mistakes at times in 2017, but he quickly grew up before our eyes to not just be an adept “game manager” and team leader but a clutch playmaker (MUCH more than thrower of “simple slants”).
    As much as I think Fromm is the total package – or ~80% if it’s possible for another QB to have all of his abilities PLUS elite running ability – I will trust Kirby to play the QB who gives us the best chance to win ( game to game and in the broader sense). Some of the rest of you should give that a try and get your drama or combine/ fantasy fixes through other outlets.

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  7. Macallanlover

    Fields isn’t just a good running QB, strong passer with more upside on the RPO than Jake. He also didn’t choose UGA to be a Michael Vick/Tebow run guy, he want to develop as a better pocket passer in Athens to better prepare for the NFL. This is not to say his skill set would not require more QB designed runs than we have for Fromm, he is definitely a better/stronger runner. So the special package everyone calls for would not be all that different, imo.

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  8. McTyre

    Agreed. All for getting JF reps – packages or, like Shockley, some drives here and there – as long as it presents a net positive to the offense and team. Or if he takes the unlikely step of starting Fields. What Kirby decides on those counts is good enough for me as he and Chaney clearly know what they’re doing.

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  9. Dawg19

    Fields is a great talent but he missed almost his entire senior season. There’s basically no way he’ll come in and beat out Fromm. However, I can see him running a version of the Wildcat (or WildDawg) to mix things up.

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    • Macallanlover

      What? He was hurt at the very end of the season, not sure he missed but one game. Being on campus early should allow him to be ready to compete, or step in as needed. I hope to see him in for several snaps in the first game to get that behind him. If we intend to compete for a title in Atlanta, we need two scholarship QBs that have had live game reps.

      Should be fun to see the uber talented freshmen play in Sanford in April at G Day, as well as the youngsters who didn’t get much action in 2017. One of the players I have heard good things about is WR Holloman, along with what we have back, another receiver to replace Wims and fit in with Godwin and Ridley should have us in good shape. Add the slot guys and backs to the TE group and either QB will have enough targets. This UGA offense should be very good, best in years.

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      • Dawg19

        Mac, I was thinking he got hurt around the 3rd or 4th game of the season. I just checked and it was the 8th game of the season. They played 13 games and could have played a couple more, so he was hurt closer to mid-season.

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        • Macallanlover

          I thought it was in mid-November, it was October 19. He was hurt in the last few minutes. Thought was like 10th game, but only 8th. Still, he had almost a full senior season, and will get an early jump on spring. Should be fine for contact all spring practice from what I have heard.

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    • Dawgpa

      You’ve got to love when people post and have no idea what they are talking about.

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  10. 1smartdude

    Fields will not replace Fromm anytime soon. He’s bigger, might have a stronger arm, and possess a stronger running option, but having watched both in person, he’s not close to being as effective as Fromm. Given, Fields didn’t have the surrounding talent he’ll have next year, but he also didn’t go up against the same talent level either. He’ll need to be cultivated to be as effective as Fromm. I believe he can certainly get there, but on the job training as a freshman is much more difficult than our experience with Fromm has led us to believe.

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  11. DawgPhan

    Highest rating of sec qbs ain’t sayin much.

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  12. CPark58

    Am I the only one who hopes Fields doesn’t see the field in any capacity next year at all? I know he’s good but damn, a redshirt freshman behind a 3 yr starter is a hell of a lot better than a true freshman behind a true sophomore. Give him a year to settle in to the routine, learn the system, eat and train in the S&C program and practice against SEC players and he will be far more effective than he would be as just a hyper talented freshman.

    If Kirby keeps recruiting like he is and is able to get some QB separation to build real depth the mean machine in red and black is going to give all the drunk UGA fans a reason to be obnoxious for a long time.

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  13. I have been a Jake Fromm fan & supporter since his high school days.
    I am pulling for him this year/ He Is also a future NFL QB.

    I think Kirby Is looking for a dual-threat QB like Fields.
    He does have a chance to be the QB.
    A first-year QB as a starter for the third straight year ???

    In Reserve A preferred 6-foot tall walk on.dual threat QB.
    I believe that he can move the Offense down the field also.

    Anyway: Go Fromm. Go Dawgs. Go you Silver Britches.

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