This is what reloading looks like.

Georgia watched its 2013 recruiting class implode and it eventually led to the downfall of its then coaching staff.

Alabama sees the 10th transfer out of its 2015 class, and the world yawns as the program is expected to progress towards another national title run.

The Tide actually has lost even more than that.

When you combine transfers, draftees and Taylor’s departure, only 10 members of the 24-member, top-ranked class remain with the program.

How many other programs could survive that level of attrition, let alone continue to prosper at the highest level?

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43 responses to “This is what reloading looks like.

  1. Lrgk9

    Give Kirby 2 more years and ask the question again…

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  2. Greg

    Who cares??…..Georgia is the new Bama, Saban to retire very soon.

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  3. Skeptic Dawg

    This is why we, and pretty much every other program, are not yet ready to compete with Alabama. Alabama is simply deeper at every position with highly talented kids due to the unbelievable recruiting success under Saban. The Crimson Tide have 4 and 5 star kids stacked like cord wood. Kirby is doing an incredible job of closing the gap between the two programs, but as evident in the national title game, we are just not there yet.

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    • I compare 2015 in the rain to 2018 for the national championship … the gap isn’t as wide as it may appear.

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      • Otto

        You don’t compare 1 class. Ratings will be proven wrong, kids will wash out. Bama moves on as the kids transfer or drop out and restock with fresh recruits with the chance to live up to expectations.

        It is like the Cowboys and the Herschel trade. Half of the drafts might be busts but that gave the Cowboys that many more chances to draft talent that produces.

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      • dawgtired

        …and Bama needed the ref’s help in the 2018 NC…so the gap is small IF there is one.

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    • Greg

      We ain’t too far off, not enough to make a difference imo (link below)….only can play 22 at a time. Good QB play can make a difference, we have that QB IYAM:

      https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-secs-football-rosters-2018

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      • Otto

        22 a game multiplied by how many snaps by how many games, and how many get injured. Yes UGA is as close as almost anyone but you don’t had any advantage to an organization that has proven to capitalize on their chances.

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        • Greg

          Meant to link the national one….

          You’re not going to play all 85 in a season, no matter the injuries. We are competitive with them now, and probably should have won the last game we played….Bama also had more overall talent than Clemson when they lost to them. The QB was the difference. Hence, “QB play can be a difference”.
          I feel that we have it.

          When you get past the first & second teams…depth is overrated for the most part, but still nice to have. Players 50-85 are not going to make a difference in most all outcomes. We are as talented now….

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          • Otto

            Worked for Richt….

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          • Granthams replacement

            Players 50-85 are the scout team, which push the starters in practice everyday. The competition level in Tuscaloosa makes them the best team.

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            • Otto

              Further it goes past the 1st 2 strings Auburn beat UGA and Bama but with 1 of the 2 1st string RBs and the other nursing an injury they didn’t stand a chance against UGA. Depth matters on the game and practice fields.

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            • You literally have NFL GMs take a chance on a Bama guy, who may not receive said chance had he played elsewhere, simply because of who he practiced against.

              We’re not all that off from that either. I know a 7th round wide receiver (Javon Wims) commands little commentary either way, but we just had a receiver with 1 good season in a UGA uniform while tying for 118th nationally in receiving yards GET DRAFTED ! So he will jostle for playing time in Chicago with 2nd round selection anthony miller of memphis, he of 187 receptions over his final 2 seasons to Wims’ 55. The $$ and the round of selection suggest Wims has an uphill battle (whether or not directly against miller). But having watched these 2 players, 2 programs and their competition (internal and external) very closely, there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell I’m going to put money on Miller outshining Wims.

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            • Greg

              And the second stringers push the first. Not saying that 50-85 do not matter, just saying it does not matter as much as some think. Again, Clemson showed that it didn’t, in a perfectly called game….Georgia would have won last year imo. Ohio State did not have as much overall talent as Bama when they won the MNC.

              Who would not love having the overall depth of “blue chippers” as Bama. But if you break it all down, we are not as far off as most think. Not enough to make a difference imo….those 3 or 4 more 5 stars buried as 3rd & 4th stringers on the bench are not going to be the difference in a game.

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    • Stoopnagle

      I thought we competed pretty well all things considered.

      I’m ready to see if we can do it year-in-and-year-out.

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      • W Cobb Dawg

        Not only competed, but had them beat – if not for lousy refs.

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        • Uglydawg

          Yes. Need a new law requiring any written reference to that game* be highlighted with an asterisk and attached footnote of how ‘Bama was helped. That blocked punt was ‘Bama’s would have absolutely been ‘Bama’s death blow.

          In the 2017 NC Game, Georgia, with a big lead already, blocked an Alabama punt deep in Alabama territory. It would have allowed Georgia to, at the very least, to run clock on offense with a chip shot field goal tacked on. At best, Georgia would have scored seven and the Tide would have been finished. Instead, a ref standing by the Alabama bench flagged Georgia for being off-sides, which video has shown to be absolutely ridiculous. This was the turning point in a game in which the refs continued to allow Alabama to tackle Georgia pass rushers and also failed to call a false start when Alabama was desperate for the tying score.

          The ONLY reason I continue to harp on this is some comments make it sound like we just didn’t have enough to beat ‘Bama We did.. We had them on the ropes and we should always remember that it was the referees, not the Georgia Bulldogs, that lost that game.

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          • Silver Creek Dawg

            I’m amazed that people on here keep harping on the blocked punt call the refs missed. Frankly, if the refs had been doing their job, the play would have never happened; Bama had 3 guys moving prior to the punt being snapped and the block would have never occurred due to the dead ball foul.

            The more egregious missed call for me was the missed false start on the Bama WR on the 4th down TD pass that tied the game. He clearly was across the line when the ball was snapped and the side judge ignored it.

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            • Uglydawg

              3 players moving??? If that’s so, it’s even more proof the refs were dry humping the Dawgs. Bottom line, we took a five yard penalty and Bama didn’t, but the moving thing is so close that the human eye couldn’t catch it without the aid of slow motion video. Running slow mo it probably happens on just about every single snap.

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  4. Bright Idea

    And his coaching staff for the most part is a revolving door. He reloads without worrying about “relationships” between assistants and players. Bama has become the NFL developmental team and recruits notice.

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  5. PTC DAWG

    We shall soon see…

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Yep. I think this year’s talent exodus (players and assistants) was more substantial than normal (um, normal for saban). They aren’t going to take a dive down to 4 losses with that soft schedule. But I feel the trajectory of that program has changed, be it ever so slightly.

      Per Brother Bluto’s link to current recruiting rankings, notice UGA has three 5-stars and bama has one. Kirby’s closing ability caused some real problems for bama last recruiting cycle. I expect that to continue.

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  6. Dawg in Austin

    Having the best ever recruiting class the following year helps, but we’ll see. Another injury bug like last year could do some damage.

    Interesting that Bama has also already lost 6 out of 23 kids from that amazing 2016 class and could lose at least one more if Hurts transfers this summer. At some point you have to think this catches up with them at a position or two. Kirby’s got to close that gap and take advantage of the opportunity that may lay in front him this year or next.

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  7. Argondawg

    When you have that much attrition it only takes a down couple of years to bring you back to earth. He recruits 6th again this year and sends most of his upper class men packing or in the draft and the playing field is going to level out quick. I have a 19 year old and their way of thinking is completely different. Saban is older than one of her sets of grandparents. 67 is ancient to a 19 year old. I’m not predicting an end to Saban’s run this year or next but it’s coming in the next few years. Age is a factor. Then again I’m no Saban.

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      • #fakenews Everybody knows 247sports is in the tank for Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas A&M and Florida State.

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      • Hill Billy Dawg

        Agreed. But wouldn’t you also agree that two or three kids can swing that ranking pretty quickly? Maybe Kirby closes strong again like last class; and I think he will after our last game.
        Will be interesting for sure.

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      • Argondawg

        Kirby is recruiting more like Saban than Saban is from that graphic. I get your drift though. Honestly though Senator do you think he can keep this going into his 70s? I am not being snarky just curious. I think if anyone can its him but I also think it is hard to hide from negative recruiting on age

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  8. Argondawg

    On another note. Did anyone see kirby’s Trolling last night on twitter. It made me laugh out loud. That guy is relentless.

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  9. Russ

    On the one hand, that’s an amazing stat for Bama. But like some of the others said, I don’t think the gap is huge. We were lucky with injuries last year and Bama wasn’t, but a #3 and #1 (huge) class vs #1 and #6 starts to balance things out nicely. If Kirby picks up another top class this coming year and Bama stumbles a little, we’re essentially there.

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  10. Biggus Rickus

    There’s certainly no reason to expect a drop from them until they have several cycles finishing outside the top 5 in recruiting or Saban retires. As it stands, they have a bunch of redshirt freshmen, sophomores and juniors who were part of loaded number 1 classes to fill whatever holes might be left by departures. Maybe assistant coaching attrition could catch up to them and cost them one extra game, but I wouldn’t bet on that.

    The nice thing is that Georgia is one more recruiting class from being in exactly the same position, and it certainly appears that 2019 is going to be a lot like 2018 in that regard.

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  11. Hill Billy Dawg

    I’m telling you; Kirby was the power behind all of Bamas success in recruitment. What he’s building in Athens will be something to behold and tell your grandchildren.
    “Let me tell you the days of HIGH adventure.”

    Conan the Barbarian c 1982

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  12. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    The difference between the ‘implosion’ of Alabama’s 2015 class and the ‘implosion’ of UGA’s 2013 class is that the first one – Jonathan Taylor aside – happened because of competition for jobs on Saturday. There were as many reasons for UGA’s collapse as there were players leaving, but competition for jobs wasn’t the case for many. Plus, it wasn’t like we had a string of back-to-back top rated classes like Bama had.

    Get used to it, too: 25 players a year time 4 years is 100 players, but you can only have 85 in any given year. Fifteen are gonna get weeded out somehow, and if it isn’t competition for jobs (Pat Allen comes to mind as someone who wanted more PT) there is going to be some sausage making. I am not claiming we are at Alabama’s level, but there is a trend that way for sure, and you’re seeing evidence of it beyond an appearance in the BCS championship game.

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  13. No Axe to Grind

    Must be the coaching.

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  14. Jt (the other one)

    Ours will…2 ‘years max and we will be THAT program…we are so close now.

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