Interesting thread on Twitter yesterday that started with this news…
… continued with this observation…
… and climaxed with this breathless reaction.
First off, it’s always sad these days to see announcements of mass layoffs in the media industry, both from a personal perspective and as well as what it means for the consumer. I’m in my twelfth year of blogging (I know) and if there’s one thing that experience has illuminated for me, it’s that college football beat writers are, without exception, an underappreciated lot. I don’t see how I could do what I do here at the blog without being able to rely upon their insight and effort. I hope that’s something I never have to contemplate.
That being said, it’s hard to see what’s so offensive about Staples’ observation. I’ve certainly done my fair share of wading through what SEC Country and Land of 10 have produced, even linked to them occasionally, and while I’ve found a respectable amount of original product there, there’s also been plenty of “according to” material generated at those sites. Not that there’s anything wrong with aggregating information (as long as credit is properly given, of course), but I can aggregate as well as the next guy; Twitter, CSS RSS feeds and news services like Topix make that easy, once you know what you’re doing.
And if you’re making that part of your business plan as one way to generate steady quantity for the readership you want to reach, the risk you run is that it’s hard to monetize that over time. If I’m going to pay for online media, or visit regularly to generate ad revenue, there had better be plenty — hell, almost an exclusive amount — of original content and/or presentation. I expect insight and information for my hard earned coin and my attention. Passing on what a beat writer in a small college town writes about the local program provides neither, especially if I can go to the source for free.
As Andy noted, that’s not on the journalists. It’s on the editors and publishers who devised the business plans that forced the journalists down that path. Ignoring what your potential customers value is something you do at your peril, as Cox Media and its soon to be former employees have learned. Pointing out that sad reality is hardly reprehensible. Ignoring the lesson, though, is another story.
Yeah, I didn’t see why Adams was so upset. Was he joking or something?
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We live in an age of hyperbole no doubt.
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Brandon Adams gets paid to make mountains out of molehills.
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Adams has always seemed a bit of a blowhard to me, so he was just blowharding.
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I don’t know that I’d react as strongly as BA. But I do get where he’s coming from. Staples’ tweet reads a little bit like he’s kicking down on a group that just got fired, with some indirect self back-patting, too.
I’m surprised at the BA hate here. Is a lot of Dawgnation Daily fluffy? Sure. But a lot of it, especially Sentell’s segments, is interesting. And they put out a 45 minute podcast every day, so I’ll forgive them if they frequently discuss the takes of other writers.
Dawgnation Daily, and BA in particular, also go out of their way to have a sense of humor about themselves. They rarely feel sanctimonious or blowhard-y to me.
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Let’s be honest the guys “writing” for the Cox sites – SEC Country – were not “beatwriters” in any traditional sense of the word. Those sites were garbage aggregators – that wasn’t the writers’ fault, it was Cox’s “vision” – a cheap way to generate hits and clicks.
Sadly, they are doing the same thing to Chip Towers and it has become more and more obvious the last yearish. If they are not careful, they will kill one of the last golden geese they have left. In my opinion, people are/would be wiling to pay for really good local journalism, particularly on issues like local/regional sports, and it could be a big money maker. Instead, regional papers like the AJC are doubling-down on the shallow and sensational, hiding behind ambiguous leads in order to “lure” readers in…
I am sorry for the guys who lost their jobs, but to view running a clickbaiting listicle site as an actual career in journalism is pretty naïve, at best.
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Has anyone signed up for the Athletic? If so is it worth the money?
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I have. Enjoy it, although I think it’ll be better once they create a section devoted to Atlanta/Georgia sports.
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Any word on when they plan to have a Georgia/Atlanta section?
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Not that I’ve heard.
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Very soon.
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I stand corrected. 😉
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Seth, I know you have to find a balance between asking tough questions and being, in the eloquent words of Corch Irvin Meyers, 37F’d for access. Just curious, but how do you find that?
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Let’s put it this way: If I was penalized for asking tough questions, that’d make an even better story than whatever I was asking about originally.
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Agree – it definitely seems over the years you’ve provided good, objective coverage of the program as opposed to some of your peers in Birmingham, Montgomery and Gainesville.
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Will you actually write about sports at the Athletic or will it be more left wing political BS and whining that your wife doesn’t get paid enough?
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WTF
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The king has spoken.
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worth the money. A good set of writers for college football and baseball. And yes agree with the Senator that it will be better with an Atlanta/Georgia section which i believe is coming
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I have. Seth Emerson is still producing his high quality work covering UGA there. It will be much better when they fill in gaps in coverage with all MLB/NFL/MLS teams, though. They claim still to be “working on it.”
Plus, Google around for the best deal. There are 50% links floating around out there that work wonderfully for the first year of your subscription.
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I just saw a link and signed up for a year. It appears to be a pretty decent deal.
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Damn. I knew hanging around this place was going to cost me money at some point. Just signed up. Thanks for the google idea.
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Somebody owes me a referral fee. 😉
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True dat. Is your name “Google” by chance?
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Great looking site. And the deal is too good to pass up. Thanks for the referral.
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The Athletic has been awesome so far. I dove in a bit before Georgia became a niche site, so I didn’t just sign up for that. I know a lot of people aren’t into soccer, but they just launched a new soccer vertical and it’s fantastic. I really hope it takes off and can sustain itself.
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Brandon Adams is a fucking clown.
He is the king of regurgitation.
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He really is, he’s even worse on the radio.
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I disagree. I’ve been listening to his daily podcast for almost a year now. I find it very informing, especially when he brings on Jeff Sentell and Chip Towers. He brings good content to his show. Loves the Dawgs. Why would you refer to him as a fucking clown? You familiar with fucking clowns?
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He knows nothing more than the average fan. In fact, I’d say the majoirty of the comments on GTP are more informed than that half ass real estate agent.
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Link to the “Athletic” please.
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Here you go.
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Thanks!
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Is Mandel tolerable? I liked his early SI work but toward the end in his last year there I grew frustrated with him and his left coast love affair.
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There’s a lot more content there than just him.
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Mandel is still, to this day, unwilling to admit he was wrong about his inane comment about the Georgia helmet not being recognized by anyone in a random sports bar in Montana.
Other than that… Bruce Feldman just joined, and he’s pretty great. Seth is awesome.
Where The Athletic really shines right now is in their baseball coverage. Basically, everyone who left SI and ESPN the last couple of years ended up there. It’s literally a who’s-who of great baseball writers.
Still no Braves beat guy, though. Although everytime I ask, their main twitter account, and now Seth, say it’s coming.
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Small proofing note – I suspect you meant RSS feeds when discussing aggregation tools.
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I did. WP Spell Check doesn’t understand me. 😉
Thanks for the catch.
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One thing I really like about your blog, it isn’t like twitter.
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Call me crazy, but if I’m let go and someone tweats out that it ‘sucks’, followed by basically telling management to get their heads out of their a**** so you don’t have to lay people off….I’m not going to label such a tweat as ‘reprehensible.’ Hell if anything I’m going to thank them for their support.
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Sports blogs inhabit a space in between social media and journalism that’s a sweet spot for me. Social media gets too emotional and reactive, with the added curse of too much noise. And journalism these days is too often a quid pro quo, with the added curse that the primary goals are maximum immediacy and maximum attention.
Blogs usually offer more depth than social media and less devotion to maximum clicks than journalism.
Sites like SEC Country miss their audience, and Andy is dead right on that count.
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I agree with everything here except the line about it being on the editors and publishers. I think that’s unfair to the editors as I would put this 100% on the publishers who demand insane workloads which then means aggregation is the only possible outcome.
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Those click-bait headlines don’t write themselves, Parrish.
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But the publishers set everyone up to fail. When you’re demanding 8+ posts a day you have to do BS headlines to get clicks otherwise the minutia that gets posted wouldn’t be clicked. What’s an editor suppose to do other than quit, which is always something that sounds easier said than done.
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You are free to excuse. I have a hard time doing so after this classic, which I chalk up not to production pressure, but general assholery.
That one was bad enough they went back to change the header after the fact and remove the tweet.
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Certainly people make mistakes, but when the game is rigged from the beginning and set to blow, I’m not sure what editors can do when publishers say X amount of clicks have to be hit or else. It’s a terrible model and I hope it’s one that dies, but I’m skeptical it will.
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I run a media company. We have magazines, blogs, websites, conferences, tradeshows, etc. When you try something and it doesn’t make money, you close it and cut your losses. #capitalism
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Some of us might say its not making money because you aren’t giving your customers what they want… Thus its no surprise that garbage clickbait listicle sites that are simply set up to get click-thru’s on search engines are crashing and burning.
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Regarding “The Athletic” NO POPUPS is music to my eyes. I’ll happily pay for really good content with the hope that “popups” become a relic of the past.
That and the message to turn my Ad Blocker off to read the content. I get the fact that they need to make $$$ but as I said good content free of the gibberish will be rewarded with subscriptions.
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This is difficult for me to admit, but I really like former Florida Gator, Andy Staples. A lot. I listened to an XM show he did with Tom Luginbill (!) last Fall coming home from JAX for, like, three full hours. It was fantastic.
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