Rolls and runs on the Plains

So, Barrett Sallee asked a question last night…

… and I responded with this.

I suspect he thought I was being snarky.

But for once, I wasn’t.

Mark Richt may not have won his fair share of titles over the last few years of his run in Athens, but beating Auburn was a different story.  Kirby hasn’t done too badly so far, either.

Sallee hasn’t responded to my last tweet, so I’m wondering what you guys think.  It’s not that I don’t respect Auburn — clearly the Tigers go into this season as the toughest opponent on Georgia’s schedule — but what has to happen to turn around a 3-10 stretch?  The obvious thing to me is that Gus does a lot better when he has the right kind of quarterback for his system, but even with that, Cam was a generational-type talent, the kind that doesn’t exactly grow on trees, and Auburn split the two games with Marshall.  (For that matter, Stidham did the same in 2017.)

Any thoughts?

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80 responses to “Rolls and runs on the Plains

  1. Argondawg

    “What kind of roll are you looking for?” Pretty much sums it up. I think one team on the roll is already happening. I am wondering how far back he needs to go to call it being on a roll? Even the Auburn fans know how dominate we have been lately.

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  2. Thorn Dawg

    I’ll ask this, when is the last time Auburn had consecutive seasons where they challenged for the SEC Championship?

    I think they’re overrated, at least offensively. Stidham is good, but the supporting cast isn’t there.

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  3. ChiliDawg

    I think you caught Sallee in a poorly worded tweet and instead of acknowledging the obvious he just doubled down. The Georgia-Florida series is pretty “balanced” in terms of overall record too, but no one would have argued it was balanced in the 90’s.

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  4. Go Dawgs!

    I like driving in my truck.

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  5. Navin Johnson

    If this tweet were from a non-existent Twitter circa 2004, Sallee crushed it.

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  6. Otto

    Another blathering bobblehead that does not what he talking about, this is why people don’t trust the media.

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    • ChiliDawg

      That’s not…. nevermind.

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    • Uglydawg

      Very little “media” left. Not many objectively reporting from the center.

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      • ASEF

        No money in it because no audience for it. Better to run stories about how a Hawaiian volcano that’s been erupting since 1983 suddenly portends California falling into the ocean. That’ll get a few clicks.

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        • Doug

          As a current Californian, I hope not . . . then again, I’m far enough away from the actual fault line that I can just sit back and enjoy living in an “island paradise.”

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  7. Bigshot

    I for one hope that AU never wins another game.

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  8. Russ

    Well, first off, I disagree when Sallee says “it was clearly not Kerryon Johnson” when it was obviously Kerryon Johnson. Gus wins when he has a dominant talent. “Big game coach Malzahn” looked like a deer in the headlights at LSU last year, and in Atlanta, once Kerryon’s arm fell completely off, they were toast.

    But yeah, Richt owned Auburn and I think Kirby’s going to continue that trend.

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  9. Castleberry

    I’d take 10 of the next 10 right now. That’s the kind of roll I’m looking for.

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  10. Exactly… And it’s as if the SEC world doesn’t realize it. Even some of my Auburn friends do not want to acknowledge the dominance and now with CKS in town….

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    • Uglydawg

      Had lunch with a ‘Bama fan the other day. He is oblivious to the fact that Georgia is on the rise. It was apparent that he considered the outcome of the MNC game just another example of Alabama dominating their opponent. He thinks the officiating was just fine.
      He talked about how great their QB’s are but he’s never even heard of Jason Fields….He seems to just assume that Saban will be there forever and will automatically win it every year.When I asked him who would he like to succeed Nicky, I got a blank stare. “Where do you think he’s going?” I was asked. When pressed he said maybe Kirby or Pruitt,-Alabama will have to see which one was the best when it happens.
      It’s as if neither would have the choice to say “no” if called.
      Obliivious
      Alabama is standing in the middle of the track and something’s coming down it.

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      • Jack Klompus

        No offense, but if I was an Alabama fan, I think I’d probably assume we were going to win it every year too.

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      • Sanford222view

        He’s probably never heard of Jason Fields because his name is Justin Fields. 😉

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      • MLB2

        My dad got diagnosed with cancer a few weeks ago and was told that he would be gone in 6 months if it didn’t respond to treatment. First thing he said, “I can’t die. I’ve got at least 6 more championships to watch the Tide win.” Bammers are a strange lot.

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  11. DawgPhan

    I feel like the whole balance/close overall score/road team winning storylines of the Auburn series have been through squashed over the last 13 years.

    Changing the narrative on that series is something that is greatly overlooked by UGA fans.

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  12. St. Johns Dawg

    Ironically Auburn has had the same mental problem with UGA that the Dawgs have had in Jacksonville over the past 13+ years … Somehow they have found a way to play their worst against us most of the time. I still remember being on the Plains in 2015 thinking there’s little chance we win … And watched in utter disbelief as Malzan ordered pass after pass instead of running right at us in the second half. By the time McKenzie’s punt returned happened, they were mentally beaten. Hope that overall trend continues.

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    • Doug

      2016, too. I mean, I get that Auburn had a ton of injuries, but the way we were playing that year, beating a top-10 team without scoring an offensive TD was on some deal-with-the-devil shit.

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  13. 3rdandGrantham

    Aside from winning 10 of 13, two of AU’s wins in recent years literally have been miracles as well. You had the ’05 game, where CWM, in all his infinite wisdom, decided to play press/man coverage while winning, with AU sitting at 4th and 15 on their own 20 with a minute left left in the game. Then you had miracle on the plains I, in which no further explanation is necessary. This century, I can only think of two dominating wins for AU over us; otherwise it’s generally either been a UGA win or a close AU win thanks to some freak play at the end of the game.

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    • Cojones

      Agree completely. Was going to post the same observation that it’s worse than 3-10 and we have taken our losses out of proportion. The loss that occurred last year seemed really a surprise to most of us and our win has an Auburn asterisk of “Iron Bowl injuries” beside it in Auburn minds, so there’s that.

      An Auburn member of my drankin’ club wears his jacket, but doesn’t get past head nods when we discuss SEC teams’ prospectuses. Methinks he knows how the see-saw tilts now and is happy when the FU guys tout their future with Mullen (never mind that they don’t have the troops yet) and lead the conversation away from the Georgia/Auburn series.

      Sallee is up and down when touting/flaying the Dawgs and he does seem to have his dick hanging out on this one. Yeah, since the 1800s everything is balanced, but in the last 13 yrs the roll is obviously Dawg overbalanced.

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    • Stoopnagle

      That ’05 game had a concussed safety on the field for us at the time. And we’ve won our share of miracles, too. I mean, 2016 wasn’t that long ago. But we’ve kicked the cat shit out of them a lot more than they’ve beaten us down. I’m still kind of disappointed with Richt for not getting one more TD in 2012.

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  14. AusDawg85

    First…I’ve been instructed that USCe is our toughest opponent. Second…it’s hard to maintain a roll when the other guy is cheating. Third…Auburn needs to play us twice at home. Fourth…I hate Auburn.

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    • Mayor

      You get it Aussie. Let me give you another point to consider. In even years Auburn plays Georgia and Bama away. In odd years Auburn gets both of those games in Auburn. Don’t you think that Translates into a big advantage for Auburn in odd years? Auburn has basically a throwaway season (which they’ll still win 8 or 9 games–maybe 10 with a bowl win) every other year. In exchange the War Plainsmen Tigers get another season every other year where they have a damn good shot at winning the West, the SEC and a national title. I think the current scheduling system favors Auburn–at least half the time.

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  15. What a dumb ass. Both UGA and Alabama are on a roll over those guys. They’ve lost to us and beaten us exactly the same number of times over that period as Alabama and in the same years.

    Its like asking can Florida ever dominate the Cocktail Party. After all, UGA does have an 8 game lead in the series.

    Can UF ever turn that around? Its that kinda dumb.

    Sports media people may be the most fucktarded people on the planet.

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    • Mad Mike

      Yup, pretty much.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      To be fair, he’s actually a good guy, and word around the campfire is that he’s a Dawg fan as well.

      Also, you have to tip your cap to him – last off-season he predicted UGA would go 11-1 on the year, with a lone loss at AU. However, we would get our revenge and blow them out in the SECC en route to playing in the national title game. Everyone, and I mean everyone (including UGA fans) basically accused him of being on drugs at absolute best. So if nothing else the guy is a great prognosticator.

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      • My sports media hero list is one: Larry Munson.

        After that, I don’t care who they want to win, if they’re in sports media, they are probably saying/typing something really stupid right now.

        (I’ll give you that there may be other credible and deceased sports media members.) Meanwhile, Tim Brando is allowed to live.

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  16. Hogbody Spradlin

    “What has to happen to turn around a 3-10 stretch”? Swap uniforms and coaches?

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  17. CPark58

    If American football is ever added to the olympics watch out for the group of “amateur athletes” at Auburn. They are hell on wheels every 4 years or so…

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  18. I’ve heard a lot of people (Sallee included) say Gus changed as as coach last year in the second half and he realized you have to “go for it.” I’m not sure that’s at all true, but rather they got hot at home and played two great games AT HOME where they had early leads.

    Cut to the SEC title game and the bowl game and they played away from home and, well, yeah.

    AUB was the best team in the country last year if every game was at Jordan-Hare.

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  19. Silver Britches

    Sallee’s pretty good, but you’re right. 10 out of 13, and they needed a) a transcendent player, and b) a hail mary to win 2 of their 3.

    I married into an Auburn family and I appreciate Gus in ways they don’t. Long may he reign.

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  20. Spike

    They lost to UCF.

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    • CPark58

      I’m all for making fun of Auburn whenever possible but I don’t think “they lost to UCF” is the best stone to throw from our glass house.

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      • Yep nightmare in Memphis was no fun…..cold too that night

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        • Argondawg

          One of these most inexplicably painful and sad losses I have ever been to.

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          • Stoopnagle

            So… you didn’t make the trip to Boulder that year?

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            • CPark58

              I got married on that day. I got a job offer across country so we got engaged and married in a relative hurry. We decided if we must get married in the fall we wouldn’t be “those people” but rather pick a game day where UGA is playing away, preferably against a crap team a long way away so few would make the trip and settled on 10-2-2010. We had a TV so people could watch the game but figured UGA cruises to a snoozer win that doesn’t require a bunch of attention and everyone toasts the dawgs and has a good time.

              Everyone had a great time but to this day, every anniversary my wife and I look deep into each other’s eyes and say, “We lost to motherf****** Colorado.”

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              • 92 grad

                Lol, I dunno if you remember the popular weed eater bowl game in Shreveport back in ‘91? I was engaged to a flag line girl, I’m a former trumpet section leader, we went to the bowl game and never saw each other…..what a crap game

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  21. ATL Dawg

    He got caught with his pants down not knowing that Georgia has won 10 of the last 13. If he knew that, why would he ask if one team could get on a roll? Of course they can – one team is on a roll right now.

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  22. tbia

    One interesting thing to me is the number of times recently (4 or 5) where Auburn has scored on the first or second possession against Georgia and never scored again.

    Tells me Gus is crap making adjustments during a game.

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    • DoubleDawg1318

      That has happened to both teams. The team that has scored first in the last 5 or so matchups has lost the game. Fortunately, Georgia has only scored first once. Several times AU has gotten a quick TD and then nothing more the rest of the game.

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  23. Kalamazoodawg

    Don’t forget 1 of the 3 was a complete fluke.

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  24. SCMass

    I can’t take seriously anyone that tweets that frequently.

    Even if the Senator didn’t intend snark, it landed. Sallee also had an almost identical exchange with another poster.

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  25. South FL Dawg

    What a dumb tweet as you pointed out. Dawgs keep it going in 2018 and for the foreseeable future. It’s not just recruiting a QB that’s a problem for our neighbors to the immediate west; after that they have to figure out how to keep him from getting killed running that offense.

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  26. Andy

    Even looking at their wins over the years, they aren’t easy games for them:
    2005- Amazing, last minute game in Sanford.
    2010- Worst UGA team this century played the best Auburn team, and we hung with them.
    2014- Prayer is Jordan-Hare

    Honestly, we should probably feel about this series how Florida felt about us around 2003.

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  27. Only roll Abuurn will have or see is at Toomers…..

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    • CPark58

      I’m pretty sure they are gonna experience more than their fair share of “Roll Tides”. Considering the Warplainstiglesmen’s record against UGA over the last 15 years, I don’t foresee many opportunities to roll Toomers however.

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  28. Spur 21

    Auburn Sucks

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  29. Jared S.

    “…clearly the Tigers go into this season as the toughest opponent on Georgia’s schedule…”

    You choose your words very carefully here, I see….

    Yes, they “go into the season as our toughest opponent” — on paper. And if that is your point, then I heartily agree with you. But I have a sneaking suspicion that Auburn will NOT be our toughest game. And our dominance in the series will continue.

    Yes, on paper Auburn looks formidable, but if I had to bet on our closest game (or loss) coming from 1) the hands of Auburn or 2) a team from the rest of the field, I’d bet on the rest of the field all day long. There’s just too much that can happen in the SEC and too many coaches who know that a win against UGA this year will do much to burnish their questionable brands (I’m looking at you, BOOM, Mullen, and Coach O….).

    Yeah, I’m saying we’re going to get everyone’s best shot. lol

    But seriously, I don’t think it’s an invalid point, just because it’s a meme on your (awesome) blog. The target on Georgia’s back is the biggest it’s been in a long, long time. It seems to me — and I hope I don’t come across as trying to misrepresent you… I’m just telling you honestly how it seems to me — that you kind of laugh off SCar this year as not a serious threat to what is presumed will be a perfect regular season for UGA. Presumed, that is, as long as we don’t face-plant inexplicably.

    I don’t think it will take an inexplicable face-plant or melt-down to lose to South Carolina this year. Or Florida. Or LSU. It’ll just take one of them having their best game of the year and us having our worst. Not so unthinkable.

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    • ChiliDawg

      I don’t think it will take an inexplicable face-plant or melt-down to lose to South Carolina this year. Or Florida. Or LSU. It’ll just take one of them having their best game of the year and us having our worst. Not so unthinkable.

      I don’t think Ted Bundy was a killer, I think he was just someone who made people not live anymore.

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    • Mayor

      You’re right Jared. Highly likely the Dawgs lose at least one game this regular season and it will probably be to either USC, LSU or FU.

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  30. MGW

    He was lazy, got called out, and is trying to backtrack. “Georgia’s already on a roll” is the obvious retort, and he’s upset. Just say “fair point” and move on. Auburn went 1-1 in national titles in two of those three years so it doesn’t feel as stark as Georgia Florida used to be, but as far as the rivalry, it’s pretty one sided recently. Georgia is in fact on a roll.

    I wonder if he’d have been ok with someone making the same comment re: Georgia Florida circa 2010?

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  31. Hobnail_Boot

    What’s fascinating to me is how much the series has shifted away from road dominance.

    Auburn has only won in Sanford twice this century, not in 13 years, and both of those games literally came down to the last minute.

    I do give them credit for having the loudest stadium in the SEC, bar none. But the talent gap is widening and we get them at home this year. I look for 12-3 come November.

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  32. Mike from Myrtle Beach

    Maybe Barrett doubled down because he is an Auburn grad

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  33. DoubleDawg1318

    It’s a very quiet domination unlike the UF vs UGA rivalry. Auburn’s limited wins have been very high profile in years when they went on to have nationally relevant teams. Georgia’s wins haven’t generally meant as much because we weren’t playing for titles. (Not saying they don’t mean a lot to UGA fans)

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  34. ASEF

    I honestly thought the wheels would fall off for Gus the last two years, and he’s kept it respectable. He’s a good coach.

    But his teams ride their emotions, for better or worse. That’s how they can look so impressive one minute and so inept the next. If form holds, they will get waxed by Washington, people will forget about them, and they will be on a quiet roll by November.

    I suspect Kirby’s Georgia recruiting is going to hurt Auburn the most in the long run. Can Auburn remain successful with Alabama and Georgia operating at peak capacity? I don’t see how.

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    • 81Dog

      Mark Bradley wrote an article years ago in which he observed that, in recruiting, it was largely a zero sum game between UGA and the Barn. They rely heavily on talent from Georgia. If our recruits are as advertised, they may be in trouble (my Tony Barnhart observation of the week!)

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    • Biggus Rickus

      I think he’s an above average head coach, but he hasn’t lost fewer than 4 games in a season since their inexplicable title game run in 2013. I have a feeling Auburn’s going to rue that ridiculous extension in a couple of years.

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  35. MLB2

    CMR fell short in championships and Jacksonville but he did flip the script on UT, Tech and the barn.

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  36. JAX

    Dye had his way with UGA in the 80’s aside from the HW years. They broke through in ‘83 with Lionel James from Albany and of course a young back named Bo. But time proved that Dye was a big time cheater, an embarrassment to UGA but a saint to Auburn who somehow, using their warped sense of credibility, reconciled the cheating with wins and named their field after him. And as a side note, everyone cheats some but for 50 years Auburn has made a living at it.

    Take away the cheating and the once in a blue moon players (Newton was both) and UGA will dominate Auburn. All things being equal we have demographic advantages that they do not. We also have more and better resources if we’d foster them.

    There has always existed a sense of desperation at Auburn – that they’ll do everything it takes to compete with Bama, their big brother. That sense manifests itself in the constant cheating and strange ability to not only tolerate it but embrace it. It’s been Auburn’s calling card for so long that they have completely forgotten wha is right and what is wrong. It’s a mental disease in the plains. JAC

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    • Mayor

      Yep. The Aubies are pretty open about the cheating too. Charles Barkley said of the Cam Newton pay for play allegations: “Best money we ever spent.”

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