Being good is hard.

Over at Saturday Down South, Connor O’Gara takes a look at how SEC teams have done in the playoff era against teams that finish ranked inside the Associated Press Top 25.

  • Alabama — 18-5 (.783)
  • Georgia — 9-6 (.600)
  • Ole Miss — 8-11 (.421)
  • Auburn — 7-14 (.333)
  • LSU — 6-12 (.333)
  • Arkansas — 5-15 (.250)
  • Florida — 4-12 (.250)
  • Tennessee — 4-12 (.250)
  • South Carolina — 4-12 (.250)
  • Mississippi State — 3-12 (.200)
  • Texas A&M — 2-14 (.125)
  • Kentucky — 1-12 (.078)
  • Mizzou — 0-10 (.000)
  • Vanderbilt — 0-11 (.000)

If you’re looking for an answer as to why Gus Malzahn doesn’t get the respect Auburn fans think he deserves, there’s a good answer for you.

In the bigger picture, though, it turns out the SEC is fairly representative in that regard.

As it turns out, having a winning record vs. the final Top 25 is quite the accomplishment. I found that only 3 non-SEC programs (Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma) could claim that during the Playoff era.

I dug up the records vs. the final Top 25 for a bunch of other non-SEC programs (during the Playoff era):

  • Ohio State — 14-4 (.778)
  • Clemson — 14-6 (.700)
  • Oklahoma — 10-7 (.589)
  • Wisconsin — 8-9 (.471)
  • Florida State — 7-8 (.467)
  • Michigan State — 8-10 (.444)
  • TCU — 6-8 (.429)
  • Northwestern — 6-9 (.400)
  • Stanford — 6-10 (.375)
  • Notre Dame — 6-11 (.353)
  • USC — 7-13 (.350)
  • Oregon — 7-14 (.333)
  • Penn State — 6-12 (.333)
  • UCLA — 5-12 (.294)
  • Oklahoma State — 4-10 (.290)
  • Miami (FL) — 4-11 (.267)
  • Virginia Tech — 2-7 (.222)
  • Washington — 3-11 (.214)
  • Texas — 2-14 (.125)
  • Louisville — 1-10 (.090)
  • West Virginia — 1-13 (.071)
  • NC State — 0-9 (.000)

So much for sneering at Ohio State’s and Clemson’s schedules.

Or, to put it another way…

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17 responses to “Being good is hard.

  1. kckd

    How about Mullen? I know it’s MSU but geeze. I just checked and his record vs. coaches who have won an SEC championship…..4 and 23.

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  2. kckd

    And regarding Malzahn and respect, the biggest reason is he has yet to put back to back great seasons together. I never knew this, until I read it on an SEC message board the other day. Auburn hasn’t had back to back double digit win seasons since Dye was there. I was shocked.

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    • Comin' Down The Track

      Have a double digit win season.
      Hide evidence.
      Sweat out NCAA investigation.
      Start cheating again.
      Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

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  3. NC State gave Dave Doeren a 5 year extension for $15MM…. You can’t make this stuff up…

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    • Dolly Llama

      I work at State and was absolutely astounded. One year everybody wanted to run the man out on a rail, and the next they’re locking him in.

      When I saw his name being bandied about as a possible successor to Butch Jones during the Tennessee coach search/goat rope, all I can remember thinking was “Oh please please please please …”

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  4. waterloodawg

    Now this you can use to debase ATM and Mizzou.

    As for Malzan, his team is tied for fourth in this metric and that’s actually good.

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  5. Hogbody Spradlin

    Yeah, but Corch is still a jerk.

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  6. Mayor

    I’m very surprised—shocked actually—at LSU and Auburn. But then, when you think about it, both play Bama every year and each other.

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  7. Mayor

    One of these days Southern Cal is going to wake up……

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    • DoubleDawg1318

      People made fun of UGA for underachieving but I think USC takes the title for biggest underachiever.

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  8. Greg

    Always liked to bring up Ohio State’s record against the SEC (bowl games), pisses’em off-shuts’em up. What was it, 0 for 9?? I guess they broke that streak against Bama in the MNC game.

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  9. Re: your point on Malzahn…interestingly enough, my own anecdotal experience with Auburn fans is that they are much more down on him than folks outside the Auburn bubble. There’s an outside consensus (national sportswriters and other coaches) that he’s a pretty damn good coach, but the Auburn folks are ready to run him off every other week. Auburn’s just a weird job, methinks.

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  10. Bulldawg Bill

    Face it, folks! Malzahn owes it all to Scam Newton!!!

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  11. dubyadee

    Maybe something that is more obvious, and probably has something to do with #dawgrading, but note that, in the playoff era, Georgia has played only 15 teams that finished in the top 25. That’s a little below average for the top teams. Alabama is no surprise at 23. A team that has made it to multiple conference and national championship games will have more. But Ole Miss jumps out at 19 (with no championship appearances). Oregon and Auburn look strong at 21.

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