Coach rankings, like politics, are local.

Read Rocky Top Talk’s list of SEC head coaches and see if you don’t get the same chuckle I did comparing the logic behind their placement of Jeremy Pruitt at nine and Joe Moorhead at ten.  And, yes, I’m using “logic” in the loosest imaginable sense.

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36 responses to “Coach rankings, like politics, are local.

  1. Gaskilldawg

    Got a kick about one argument in favor of Pruitt is that his 2019 recruiting class is currently rated 9th in the conference (behind Moorhead’s, by the way.)

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  2. That list was trash when Mullen was placed ahead of Smart. Grantham should have been shown the door when his guys gave up that flea-flicker TD. The fact he was able to go with Mullen to UF baffles the mind (but I’m glad for it).

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  3. Jt (the other one)

    Logic in the loosest sense is right. NO WAY Eddie Munster is ranked ahead of Kirbo. Vowell “logic” at best.

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  4. Greg

    Well, it’s been a tough go for them since Fulmer…and he even tailed off there at the end. I believe Pruitt is the 4th coach since Fulmer, they probably don’t know what to expect. But yes, funny as hell to see them not sticking their chest out & spouting off. Seen too much of if 1st hand thru the years, the team I hate most.

    How would you rank the two coaches??

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  5. Brandon

    Check out this quote regarding Malzahn “Malzahn is in the Top 5 because he is one of 3 coaches in America who have beaten Nick Saban and he is the only one to do it twice”. I feel like this is missing some sort of unstated qualifier because I can think of 5 active coaches who have beaten Saban off the top of my head… Dabo, Corch, Sumlin, Gus, and… drumroll…Mark Richt (TWICE! 04 LSU, and 07 Bama). I suspect there are others.

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    • 81Dog

      Maths are hard for Vowels. So is research. And reading.

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    • Greg

      Yep….and I think Richt was 2 & 2 against him at that point. Then he started to “steal money”.

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    • TomReagan

      That quote about beating Saban jumped out to me, as well.

      There may be more, but you also have Ty Whittingham, Ferentz, and Cutcliff.

      Still. It’s an awfully short list.

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      • Brandon

        Agreed, but Saban’s been coaching a long time and I knew there was no way that was right.

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      • DoubleDawg1318

        The article specifically mentioned while Saban was at Alabama so I don’t think those three count.

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        • Brandon

          The RTT guy has edited that article since this morning. This morning it read as I quoted. It didn’t have the “at Alabama” qualification or the “currently in the SEC” qualification this morning.

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        • Brandon

          Yep, check out the comments to the RTT article, somebody called him out. It was blatantly wrong this morning.

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    • David H.

      Which were the two games when Dabo beat Saban? I only remember the championship game in Deshaun Watson’s final year. And what about Sumlin? I remember the 2012 game when Manziel was a RS freshman, but was there another?

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      • Brandon

        He says Malzahn is the ONLY one to beat Saban twice but that only 3 total have beat Saban at all, that’s how I read it. Richt beat him twice but like you I remember only one for Corch, Sumlin, and Dabo. That’s 5 right there.

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  6. Argondawg

    I am just glad they didn’t get any of the names that were ahead of Pruitt before finally landing on the 9th best HC in the SEC. I imagine Gruden had they landed him would have been 1B to Saban’s 1A or vice versa. I am also happy with the Mullen pick overall. Much better than Frost or Chip Kelly. Kirby knows Mullen’s system and how to defend it. He also is not going to kill it on the recruiting trail.

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  7. Cojones

    Malarkey! Give the coach with the worst players access to coach a team with premier players and we will see how this “Coaching ability” lineup gets shuffled. Pome de rue.

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    • Argondawg

      The expectations were just get to a bowl at Miss St. the expectations at UF are beat FSU and win it all. They needed another home run and they hit a double.

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    • Uglydawg

      A portion of this particular ranking criteria is recruiting. Acquiring premium players gets one elevated (and somehow gets Pruitt more than it gets Moorhead). Of course he mentions that Richt left Smart with a nicely stocked cupboard but doesn’t explain the dismal ’16 season for UGA.
      So what RTT has done is to slightly Dawgrade CKS and slightly Volgrade CJP. The fact that it is done so meekly instead of the traditional volarrogant way tells us a lot about their deflated egos.
      But the underlying belief by Vol fans that Tennessee is soon going to return to glory is without evidence to support it.

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  8. truck

    Am I the only person who’s almost totally unimpressed with Jimbo Fisher? Yeah, he was great as long as he had Jameis Winston at QB. But it seems like a lot of guys are “geniuses” as long as they have transcendent talent under center.

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    • ChiliDawg

      Jimbo’s team won the ACC and the Orange Bowl a year before Winston showed up. Not like they were only good when Winston was there.

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    • stoopnagle

      He got it cranked at FSU, but he flat gave up last year. He got a rash of criticism and he handled it poorly. The fact that Aggy paid so much says a lot about A&M, because from what I could tell Jimbo was wondering why he didn’t go to LSU by about mid-season. Which is an interesting question: why didn’t he go to LSU?

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    • Cojones

      I considered that the misfortune of loosing his starting QB in the first game of the season vs ‘Bama was the lynchpin that broke the FSU fans’ back and resulted in Jimbo being red-necked out of Tallahassee last year. His wife screwing her masseur, a former FU player, didn’t help in the fan dept either. If he had had a do-over and had come out of the first game with his QB intact, this would be an entirely different story.

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  9. GruvenDawg

    FYI…the writers research on Moorehead is dead wrong. He atleast has experience as a HC.

    “Some of them will be wearing the headsets as the head man for the first time in their careers. Such is the case for Tennessee’s Jeremy Pruitt and Mississippi State’s Joe Moorhead, who previously served successful stints as assistant coaches for Alabama and Penn State, respectively” and

    “Another coordinator cutting his teeth in head coaching game in 2018 will be former Penn State offensive coordinator Joe Moorhead.”

    Moorehead was FCS Fordham’s head coach from 2012-2015 and took them to the FCS playoffs from 2013-2015. He inherited a team that was 1-10 in 2011 then went on in 2012 to 6-5, 12-2, 11-3, and 9-3 before taking the Penn State OC position in 2016. Dude needs to do his research. “Noah is a junior at the University of Tennessee and is currently working towards a degree in journalism and electronic media in the College of Communication.” Guess he couldn’t get into Grady.

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  10. TMC DAWG

    Ever who wrote that has got brain damage. Should read Saban Smart Fisher Mullen then the rest in any order.

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    • DoubleDawg1318

      Fisher has a MNC. Smart does not. As of this moment, I would rate Fisher better, based on his track record. That’s not to say Smart won’t pass him a in a few years (although I would love for Fisher to help take down Saban).

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