Umm… since Papa John’s is the official delivery pizza of UGA, will Greg McGarity have to self-impose punishment on the athletic department in light of this news?
I keed, I keed… I think.
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At least our stadium isn’t name Papa John’s Stadium.
Have fun Louisville…
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The left can have Macdonalds… we’ll take Chick filet… yall have pepsi… we’ll take Coke… you can have colgate… we’ll take crest … you can have the nfl… we’ll take college football… blah blah blah… politicize everything… get over it.
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Well, it WAS Papa John’s Cardinal Stadium…
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/07/13/papa-johns-n-word-scandal-u-l-address-cardinal-stadium/783009002/
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When are they going to make using the n word a death penalty offense?
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Mayor, I hope I’m misunderstanding the point you’re making here.
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Do you mean there is actually a point to all this BS? Really?
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You mean other than it’s bad form to be a racist jerk?
Gee, I dunno… let me think about it.
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Well, yeah. Think about it.
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It’s really hard being that guy:
http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104296/birth-of-n-word-guy#source=473fef35-48a7-434c-afc6-207874c7f1a3:f25941f2-ed00-11e0-aca6-0026b9414f30&position=2&sort=playlist
Can’t THEY just get over it? Look at what their intolerance for interlerance leads to. It’s an unimaginable indignation.
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Mind you, I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to use that word, but he was using it in context of something else (KFC), and not using it directly. Regardless, its still horrible judgement on his part, and I’m glad action was taken. But labeling him a racist as a result is an insanely huge leap, and an irresponsible one at that.
My main issue is we continue to throw around the racist/racism word, when obviously 99% of the population has no clue as to it’s meaning. It used to be that we appropriately labeled something/someone as prejudiced, bigoted, or – an extreme cases – racist. Now all three have jumped into one. When is the last time you heard someone say someone was being prejudiced or bigoted? Most likely rarely if ever. Instead, the R word is immediately thrown around to garner some sort of shock value, which is a rather sad reflection of our society today.
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Racism is prejudice and bigotry institutionalized with government power. There was a (brief?) time where a distinction could be made as there was little concern that negative racial veiws were a motivator in public policy.
That unfortunately is not where we are. Most Americans believe the president harbors negative views towards minorities and he doesn’t lack for giving evidence of that.
So for now, until this era has passed, I see no need for making any distinction.
You can disagree on the conclusion but you can’t dismiss the concern. It’s there.
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Most Americans….laughable!
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FACTS suck: https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2554
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As 3rd has said, those folks giving and answering that poll can’t define “racist”.
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And I said currently the distinction is irrelevant.
Every confrontation we see on the street with a Hispanic. Every time someone calls the law on person of color doing innocuous things we see that the distinction need not be made.
People with prejudices and bigotry see themselves as being in power and are acting on it. Someone is emboldening that. We all know who that is.
The pardons of the sovereign citizens is just another nod to those people and giving them more power and legitimacy.
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No, the distinction isn’t at all irrelevant. You just want to conflate those things because it accommodates your simplistic understanding of the world.
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Derek- Yeah that record unemployment rate for minorities sure is deplorable. Only a racist would do that. FFS!
Most Americans? Please. Get your head out of the sand and talk to people in your community. Start with your neighbors. You’ll see we have far more things that we have in common than that which we disagree.
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Dismissing the value of people is a feature not a bug for you guys and I get that. If you think some people are lesser, rapists, invasive pests, deserve to have their kids snatched etc… why would you give a rat’s ass about those people’s opinions? They don’t matter to you. We get it. It’s abundantly clear.
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Reread what you wrote, then say it out loud. What a bigoted comment.
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And it’s Germany whose in Russia’s pocket.
I’m aware of the tactic and unimpressed with same.
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“deserve to have their kids snatched” this was happening well before Trump. In fact if you spend the time researching you will find the government can do the same to U.S. Citizens – it happens all the time. It could happen to YOU based on the law.
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Thanks for the bullshit.
Unaccompanied minors arent “snatched.”
People do get seperated AFTER due process of law. The kids are not detained at that point either.
If this was justifiable it wouldn’t have chained in the face of protests from all of humanity.
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Changed not chained.
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Sorry Derek – it’s NOT BULLSHIT. Rather than making some condescending comment why don’t you look it up.
And I think your “snatched” remark is way off the mark.
But feel free to live in your bubble and ignore the laws that you don’t like – good grief.
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Ok. Trump’s zero tolerance policy does not exist and was not implemented and was not withdrawn and obama locked up kids whose parents asked for asylum but we never heard about it and there were no law suits or news stories on it or complaints from the Hispanic community because George Soros and the Illuminati.
Got it. I’m right wing re-educated by Fox News and y’all radio.
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“Dismissing the value of people is a feature not a bug for you guys and I get that.”
In making that statement, aren’t you dismissing the value of others based on your own bigotry?
It’s telling that when confronted with the data point on the low minority unemployment rate, you fall back on slandering people that you don’t even know.
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No, the traditional or classical definition of racism is the belief that one race is genetically superior to another, and thus that superior race thus should harbor complete control over the inferior race as a result. Apartheid is a good example of this.
The three definitions are distinctly different from one another, and in my experience most instances of ‘racism’ actually is prejudiced behavior, with a smaller percentage of bigotry as well. True racist behavior or actions are quite rare. To be very clear, none of the above should ever be condoned, but racist actions/behavior is far worse than prejudiced behavior.
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You don’t get governmental policy without supremacy being part of the issue.
Very few people say: we’re equal in all ways but I hate you. That’s not from whence it springs.
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The applying of the R word to seemingly every slight ramped up far before Trump took office, so I’m not sure why you are invoking the current administration here.
Please give me just one example of institutional racism in the U.S. Please name that institution and cite a current epidemic of racism within that organization.
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Seriously?
Both sides.
Child separation.
Rapists.
Infesting our country.
I could go on. It’s a real stupid suggesting that racial tensions haven’t been ratcheted up. It’s clear to me that it’s by design.
I would suggest that a political party that gets 3 million more votes nationally and has only 17 governors and state houses, is the minority in both houses of Congress and is minority on the Supreme Court and 95% of the voters of a sizeable demographic vote with that majority yet are grossly underrepresented, there’s a significant problem. There is a systematic process via voter ID, voter fraud propaganda, making political contributions both secret and protected as speech, draconian immigration strategies and the elimination by the SCT of voting rights act protections to insulate our country from the effects of representative democracy.
I would also suggest that most US police departments are less than impartial on the issue of race. Evidence of how force is used depending on race is overwhelming. No white guy has been choked to death for selling cigarettes by officers who did that with complete impunity.
I can assure you that if we saw 4 to 5 black officers choke to death a white guy under similar circumstances our own reactions would not be so circumspect.
If I ever found myself in a situation where I felt that I was policed unfairly and put at physical risk due to my race, I’d make Nat Turner look like Thomas Jefferson and Bobby Sands look like MLK.
When I went through the lynching memorial in Montgomery recently what struck me was the grace to accept that history and move on with love, hope and forgiveness. I would not. That’s not me. Not for a minute.
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Derek – you didn’t answer my question. You mentioned institutionalized and gov. racism. I’m asking you to please cite for me just one specific example of institutionalized racism, and name that specific organization along with concrete example. Please refrain from continued diatribes that make little to no sense.
You also stated the following: “People with prejudices and bigotry see themselves as being in power and are acting on it.” The fact is, the less educated and less powerful you are, the more likely you are to harbor prejudiced or bigoted feelings towards others. Myriad studies over the years have overwhelmingly proven this. Conversely, the more educated you are, you are far less likely you are to have such a mindset. Oh, and you also are more likely to associate or work with a greater diverse set of people as well, which is instrumental in overcoming any prior prejudices you may have harbored. As noted below, I can personally attest to this, as I work with a bunch of diverse, wicked smart colleagues, and the overall tenor of our group is about as harmonious as you can get.
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That is very true.
Who said: I love the under-educated?
I appreciate that you conclude without countering my suggestion that our representative democracy has been hijacked in part because the right doesn’t think it can appeal to minorities. I also appreciate that you don’t think that police abuse of minorities is an institutional problem of racism.
I suppose that if you narrowly define any issue to your liking you can live in Thomas More’s Utopia not in reality but within your own rhetorical fantastical framework.
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Whoo, buddy, you have reached the tip of quite an iceberg! Here’s some reading for you on the subject:
An entire Wikipedia section dedicated to the institutional racism in the U.S. context with plentiful examples and sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism#United_States
A more detailed, passionate, and well-written piece detailing centuries of institutional racism, its impacts, and how we might be able to come to grips with it as a nation: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
The problem with the mental gymnastics you’re doing is that you don’t acknowledge centuries of abuses that have been perpetuated in the name of white supremacy, a concept which fits neatly under the umbrella of your narrow definition of racism. These abuses still manifest themselves today less viscerally, and not acknowledging the inequalities we see today in their proper historical context only perpetuates institutional racism. When politicians undermine laws like the Voting Rights Act (as they are currently doing in many states) under the fraudulent guise of “voter fraud”, it is in the context of white supremacist policies that once made it impossible for African Americans to vote and allowed one race total superiority over another. These conversations have to take place in the proper context, and forgetting this history is an extremely dangerous and sometimes willful omission. Hopefully you’ll find these resources helpful and continue reading about the subject. Go Dawgs!
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“…racist actions/behavior is far worse than prejudiced behavior.”
This is an honest question, asked in good faith: What is an example of a behavior you would call prejudiced, but not racist?
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Sure, the mere prejudging and applying stereotypes to someone of a different ethnicity, religion, sex, etc. than you. For example, say, and older white/Asian/Hispanic lady noticing two younger black men quickly leaving a store together and assuming they are up to no good. This would be an example of prejudiced behavior, but certainly not racist behavior. (FWIW, I personally have been prejudged for not being intellectually competent because of my ethic makeup alone, though certainly this is a far cry from what others may have experienced due to theirs.)
Now, if she were to take that a step further and state, “I do not like black people (or any other race different from hers) and don’t want such types around me,” that would be an example of bigoted behavior. And finally you have racist behavior, which I already pointed out above and is, IMO, truly evil behavior.
Regardless of their excuses – such as the ones Derek espoused above – those who conveniently like to lump all three together are intellectually lazy at best, though often times it is done for other reasons; often for shock value or due to pure ignorance. In my experience, anytime I’ve asked someone face to face to please define racism and/or compare/contrast between prejudice/bigotry/racism, I’ve always gotten blank stares and have yet to receive a reasonable good answer. The most often reply I get is, “umm, aren’t they basically all the same?”
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One last thought on all of this- perhaps I’m very, very lucky, in that I work with and live near people of many different ethnicities, cultural backgrounds, and several different religious backgrounds, and we all get along extremely well with literally zero ethic or cultural rifts. Most importantly of all, we don’t view or label each other by their select ethnic group, but instead we treat each others as individuals only. For ex., I don’t view my close colleague and friend at work as a black male first and foremost; instead I view him merely as Jon who shares my love of technology, family, and football. The same applies to my Hispanic, Asian, gay, and Muslim friends.
I’m NOT a GOP guy, didn’t vote for Trump, etc., but I strongly feel that the left likes to label us or separate us by our group identity instead of simply treating everyone as individuals only; and in fact these efforts do far more harm than good. If everyone would simply treat each other as individuals only, instead of continuing to try to pit or elevate one group over another, we would all be much better off.
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Even if you’re right, other than a need to be pedantic, what’s the fucking point?
We don’t speak no good English ‘round here. Few do. What does this etymological debate accomplish?
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Right wing media has been labeling, grouping, segmenting, demonizing and dividing since I can remember being stuck listening to the nonsense in carpools on the AM dial as a middle schooler.
Anyone who argues this is a device of the left either hasn’t been paying a bit of attention or has been so indoctrinated by the “left does it, but we don’t, nope, not us” that they can’t see straight anymore.
Yes, it’s a common rhetorical tactic across the board, but it’s been the foundation of right wing radio since the ’80s and right wing cable news since Fox took to the airwaves. They’ve made it an art form.
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Brother, I don’t know you and won’t stoop to making judgments about your character. But I’m finding it basically impossible to draw any distinction between the examples you offered.
A woman sees two black guys leaving a store and assumes—for no other reason than because they’re black—that they’re “up to no good”? That’s racism.
Maybe she didn’t say anything ugly to them, and maybe she somehow managed to keep from calling the cops. But it’s still a racist attitude, whether a physical action was attached to it or not. I know there must be some kind of logical calculus in your mind such that it makes sense to deem that a lesser offense, and I wish I understood it—more understanding can never be a bad thing, especially in this royally fucked-up era. But I don’t.
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3rdandGrantham, that’s great that you don’t view your coworkers as such. I mean that. Unfortunately, you’re in the minority. Have you ever had a discussion with those folks about the everyday racism that they run into? Or some of their relatives that maybe aren’t quite as successful as them? Maybe they didn’t get the breaks that your coworkers did. It’s out there, man. And maybe the left does take things to a hyperbolic level, but at this point I can’t see any other way of getting the awareness out there. White people have a built in advantage on the road to success in America, if you can’t see that then go out and talk to more minorities.
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What did you think Mayor’s point was?
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Since Bluto didn’t respond I will. I have no point, merely an observation. Certain people can use the n word with impunity: blacks, liberal whites (if it it is said in the correct context), etc. But if you are the wrong person, say a successful white male who likely votes Republican, if you use the n word even in a throwaway line, you get hammered. The double standard is palpable.
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Actually, I did respond and basically said the same thing. Except your “double standard” is BS.
The question isn’t whether you’re the wrong person; it’s whether you’re using the term in the wrong context.
Not really sure why being ill-mannered is such a big deal to some people. After all, it’s not that anyone is preventing you from using the word. It’s just that you can expect to be criticized for doing so. If you don’t want the criticism, don’t use the word. Seems like an easy choice to me.
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Senator, I agree with you basically about Schnatter. I have no sympathy for “Papa John” Schnatter for multiple reasons. He did it to himself by being so vain that he had to make himself the face of the company instead of using a professional spokesperson plus he’s a hotshot, big wheel executive and should know better. When you decide to make yourself into a public figure you better become like Caesar’s wife–above reproach. No DUIs, no hanky panky with women, no drugs, nothing controversial, and certainly nothing racially insensitive, ’cause if you do you will get hammered into oblivion in 21st century ‘Merica. All that said, I completely disagree with you about the double standard issue. You say my contention that there is a double standard about this is BS. Have you ever been to a Chris Rock concert or watched one of his videos? He uses the n-word every other sentence–and everybody laughs. If a white comedian tried to make the very same jokes he would get called very name in the book on TV, in the papers, on the intertubes and would never get another gig. If the wrong guy says it (it’s just a word–right?) he loses his job and basically becomes the focus of ridicule. If the right guy says it, sometimes even if he’s white (remember F. Lee Bailey’s cross examination of Mark Fuhrman?), it is not only OK but laudable (after all Bailey was defending OJ, a black man). So don’t tell me there is no double standard because there clearly is one.
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Let’s say for the sake of argument there’s a double standard. Does that mean you excuse Schnatter because of Chris Rock? Because if it doesn’t, then why should you GAS about what Rock says?
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My point but in reverse: If Chris Rock can say it why GAS about Schnatter?
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Because, as I posted above, the question isn’t whether you’re the wrong person; it’s whether you’re using the term in the wrong context.
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Schnatter wasn’t using it to insult some black person. As I understand it he was making the point that the spokesman for a business rival had said that word and it didn’t have a negative impact on sales. That’s pretty far removed from any malice toward any black person or the African race in general. Your context argument fails because Schnatter’s actions are the definition of benign context that you seem to think is the exonerating criterion.
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Mayor, nobody who knows Schnatter well is trying to defend his use of the word. Even Schnatter isn’t trying to defend Schnatter. And yet here you are, apparently ready to die on this hill.
You go, girl!
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I’m NOT defending Schnatter. I don’t even like the guy. I just don’t like hypocrisy. There is no genuine righteous indignation about Schnatter’s use of that word. If there were, the same people would be saying bad things about Chris Rock concerts, Rap music and everybody else who says it. But no……
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Didn’t say you’re defending Schnatter. You’re defending his ability to use a word that traditionally has been used as an insult by white people because black people have had the audacity to appropriate the word for their own ends.
I think the technical term for that is “context”.
We’re done here, boss.
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The issue is money.
No team will sign Kaepernick because he will cost them money. It has nothing to do with their opinions of his position, his protest or his talents. I have no problem with every team in the the league saying we’re not signing you. They have a right to make that economic decision. Colin should have been aware of the consequences. There was a way to express that viewpoint without sitting on his ass and he’d still be in the league. His mistake.
Likewise no business wants to be associated with a “N-word guy.” Whether they think is was a one off or a slip or temporary insanity doesn’t matter. Schnatter made the same mistake as Colin.
It’s all the same thing. If you do something that offends a great deal of people the market will respond.
If you don’t like gansta rap using the n-word. Don’t buy any.
This isn’t unfair. It’s reality. Tough thing to fight against.
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You should watch South Park Episode 1, season 11. There’s hope. Congress can solve the difficult problem of white guys who’ve been caught saying the n word. It is a terrible situation.
Maybe start a campaign and have a commercial with Sarah McLachlan singing as the sad faces of Michael Richards, John Schnatter, Donald Sterling, etc are portrayed as victims of horrific abuse.
After all, how much more of this can we accept in a post-post-racial America? http://southpark.cc.com/clips/155469/go-ahead-apologize
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I do not consider myself bigoted or prejudiced. I find that there are stupid people (and beautiful women) of every ethnicity. But growing up in rural Georgia and Louisiana the word was tossed about freely and there was nothing nice or colloquial about it. I find it offensive and demeaning in any form and would rather my kids say “fuck” out loud in front of their grandmother than whisper that word to themselves.
That being said, the Southpark episode Derek linked is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on T.V. It still cracks me up every time I see it.
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Those guys are the best.
The way that episode ends is just too much.
They KNOW everyone is full of shit and they prove it every episode. I hope they never stop,
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Word.
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Company wants to attract, among others, black customers, Part of the brand says racist bullshit. Company parts ways. This is worth arguing?
Why is it that free market capitalism rules until someone spouts some racist bullshit? And then everyone has to pretend said racist bullshit is more important than, you know, the brand’s commercial viability?
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Exactly.
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ASEF, maybe I missed the question, but it’s still free market capitalism when they part ways. It’s protecting the brand.
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Say Mayor, why don’t you go back to the Dawgchat, where your racism won’t be challeged.
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hairofthedawg.rocks
These are your people. Right, JC-Dawg? You wouldn’t dare post here what you do in your little bigoted bubble…
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How do know I didn’t get the exact type of conversation I was trying to spark? 😇
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No. Not since he’s gotten Smart.
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Right now, I’m picturing McGarrity frantically dialing every pizza place in the greater Athens area and trying to find out if a) they deliver and b) would they like to fork over several million dollars for corporate sponsorship.
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The guy is a jerk and has always been a jerk. His switch from Coke to Pepsi was a sleazy move.
In some ways, his comments remind me of Lincoln Riley’s comments about UGA from last week. To me Riley’s comments sounded like sour grapes.
These comments from Papa John sound like sour grapes. Who cares whether Colonel Sanders could go around saying the n-word in the 1960’s and 1970’s? Colonel Sanders died 38 years ago. How is it even relevant to your situation today aside for the coincidence that you are both from Kentucky and purveyors of crappy food? Hopefully we have different view of what constitutes appropriate lexicon for describing others in 2018.
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With the only slight difference that Riley was talking about football and Schnatter was perpetuating use of language that was historically used to abet the abuse of and institutional second-class citizenship for an entire group of (millions of) people. Other than that, it’s a perfect analogy. 🙂
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No I get that … they were both sour grapes comments. What Papa did is just way worse – he is sleazy human being. Always has been and always will be.
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Their pizza sucks…and I don’t care what they call me.
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Their pizza does suck. Support locally owned Italian restaurants (the mod can’t afford too anymore). Besides, I think Payton Manning might own a chunk of Papa John’s, one more reason to stay away.
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Payton sold out when the first shit storm started.
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The official pizza delivery for UGA should be Steverino’s. Everything else is just noise.
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They don’t exist anymore do they?
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Did not know they closed…………best steak and cheese sub evah.
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Unless my google is wrong, it’s still there on lumpkin. I checked before I posted and I read that the one in Duluth closed. And yes, I had a great many $5 steak and cheese sub delivered to my dorm room…
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They do not.
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Gumby’s
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You’re aging yourself.
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Anyone remember Express? Behind Jimbo’s (?) on Baxter? I don’t remember if their pizza was good (hell that might not have even been the name of the place) but I spent some quality drinking time in there during the Russell Hall days.
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It was Express Pizza. Cheap pitchers of bad beer and a long walk to Tallassee Club Villas from there. Better than living in a dorm. I got used to those long walks a few years later.
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That’s the place!
Thank goodness it was downhill back to the dorms……..
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What??? Gumby’s was a thing when I attended, and I graduated in ’09.
Am I…. is that old?
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Johnny’s and Automatic Pizza in Athens are both good.
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I was always partial to a late night “wheel of death” from Gumby’s.
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Nothing beat the one topping “dammit” with a TANSTAAFL coupon for 3.99 delivered to Russell at 2 am.
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Peppino’s or nothing.
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Pizza from Louisville and barbecue from Tuscaloosa.
What’s next? Official beer from Maryland and official coffee from Seattle?
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There’s a Starbucks in the Tate Center now. So, my guess is neither of the coffee making companies in Athens (Jittery Joe’s and 1000 Faces) could fit McG into their schedules… or something. Probably.
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You’ll be happy to know that there’s a Jittery’s in the MLC, Baldwin Hall, and the Law School.
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and Science Library/Boyd Lobby where the Sloth used to be
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I have this on my kitchen counter and it’s very good.
https://jitteryjoes.com/products/attack-the-day?variant=41472385613
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I’ve given a lot of those out for gifts.
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I am surprised they didn’t put one in Sanford during the west end zone project. I guess the problem would be supplying the enough baristas to handle the crowd especially when it gets cool outside.
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Rest assured, would consider a local sponsor if they could afford it.
#COMMITTOTHEG
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Papa John must have said the “N” word with an “er” at the end. Totally unacceptable. You are not allowed to use that word in any context. He should have used an “a” at the end instead of an “er”, since this version of the word is commonly used in movies and social media ( twitter, memes, etc) and is widely accepted. I see and hear it used daily, often for comedic value. Hell, I just rewatched HBO’s The Wire and one character named Bodie must have said it 20 times per episode.
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I can see him thinking that Col. Sanders used the hip hop version. Makes total sense.
More importantly, this discussion keeps leading me back to some of the best moments in television history regarding the “N word”:
As the episode teaches us we should also always be mindful of saying “S word” rather than saying the whole word.
But there may always be well intentioned confusion. Sometimes it may be hard to tell the difference:
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Yawn. Asshole says something ridiculously stupid and gets shown the door. That should be the end of the story. It really doesn’t have a broader meaning to me. I think folks just want to yell at each other these days and virtue signal. What a weird time to be alive.
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Amen (Can I say that?)
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Amen times two. To paraphrase a comedian whose name I can’t recall, “It ain’t like the white man wakes up every day and says, ‘How can I fuck with the black man today?” Most of us have too much shit to do every day to worry about screwing around with somebody else’s life.
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That’s what every white South African woke up and thought during Apartheid. They had nothing else going on.
Pretty sure every German in 1943 woke up thinking about imprisoning and killing Jews.
Thanks for your insight.
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I get your point but I think using examples of genocide to qualify it is a bit of a stretch.
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Of course its a stretch. The point is that what people wake up every morning thinking about does not matter. It isn’t comparing the underlying problems. There are stark differences between Apartheid, the Holocaust, the elimination of Native Americans and slavery.
What they all share is that people’s thoughts in the morning don’t have a damn thing to do with them.
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One common thread in your examples is “true” racism. The domination of one ethnic group by a supposedly “superior” other with superior simply meaning more powerful. With the exception of your Native American example, It was apathy by the general populace that allowed these things to happen, which turned to fear once the balance of power was established. So the point I hope you are trying to make is not so much what people think about in the mornings, it’s what they choose not to think about or ignore that establishes the effect. If that is the case, I agree.
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I should probably flesh that out a little but it’s right at beer-thirty.
Later.
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You’re talking about governments and I’m talking about regular citizens. But yeah, go ahead and move those goal posts. As an aside, if there’s a more miserable person on this planet than you seem to be, I’ve yet to meet them.
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You were saying that since white men don’t waking up thinking about screwing with black people that there is not a problem. That is demonstrably stupid so I demonstrated it.
I am miserable because I have to read stupid drivel. I feel better after mocking it though.
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You have to read stupid drivel or you choose to read stupid drivel? Again, I can’t figure out if you’re 17 or 75. Do you wear a beanie in the summer also?
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Excellent questions. Almost as spot on as your points.
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If only I could be as smart and cultured as you. We can all dream, I suppose.
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Man you are so over the top. Your virtue signaling is received. You are a better more woke human being than the rest of us. You can take a dipshit racist making a dipshit racist statement and bring in the holocaust, apartheid and slavery to beat up people who aren’t as sufficiently outraged by this. The only thing that would make this complete would be some Hitler comparisons and maybe a Stalin or pol pot killing fields reference. A guy who is the face of a pizza franchise saying racist stuff just doesn’t qualify to a reasonable person as reaching the most extreme levels of depravity of the last century but hey man you do you.
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He’s just a daisy, ain’t he?
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Man if I mash up all of your words out of order and without context you sound stupid:
You said: “Stalin top man signaling dipshit Hitler.”
What an idiot you are.
Your words dude.
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“Man if I mash up all of your words out of order and without context you sound stupid”
That is so profound. If that is the best you can do I rest my case.
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“My profound case is best if that?”
What are you babbling about now?
We’re talking about a former pizza chain founder. Can’t you stay on point?
Pretty soon you’ll be talking about Ray Kroc for God’s sake.
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Actually I am talking about you and your 25 comments on this thread alone. I have a hard time believing your mom lets you stay on line this much.
You are the king at hijacking threads. Congratulations.
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Derek I think I have you figured out – you enjoy acting like an asshole to stimulate debate. Throw in a little butt hurt because Trump did what no one thought possible and you can complete the circle.
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Why haven’t responded to any of them instead of spending your time suggesting that I was off point?
You’ll note that my first foray was to respond to the Mayor’s post about his perception that the penalty for those who get caught using the N-word may be disproportionate.
Nothing was hijacked. Your suggestions otherwise, every post herein was directly responsive to the one prior.
I know you’d rather debate whose a better or more likable person rather than substance and that’s fine. In the debate you want to have be assured I couldn’t give one fuck about what you think of me.
I have no problem debating the substance of this issue with you or anyone else.
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Spur 21,
As a Trump supporter I am very sympathetic to your general distaste for people who act like assholes.
I, moreover, respect your intellectually consistency in respecting civil debate.
In that regard, I’d like to grab you by the pussy. Look at that face. Your wife is uglier than mine. Is blood coming out of wherever? My cock is quite acceptable in its size.
I know that in your view that this is the sort of language and behavior does not belong on a mere blog but at the highest level of government.
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If any was needed, we’ve got more proof that a first class jerk can make it big in America!
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That sums up like 88% of our federal representatives.
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You mean the ones we keep re-electing?
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it is sad isn’t it.
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Which is why I did not vote for a single incumbent in the primaries a couple of months ago.
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I AM old, so maybe senility is kicking in, but it seems as though this blog used to be a place where civility was usually observed. And, yes, I’ve been reading GTP about as long as it’s been around. Correct me if I’m wrong (I know, I’m asking for it).
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Some folks simply can’t accept the will of the people – especially the people that don’t live on either coast. If you dare think differently you are homophobic – a racist – and dumb ass uneducated rube.
Obama was the most racist president in my lifetime and set race relations back 50 years – but hey he was magic to some.
On another note 51 1/2 days when we can stop pulling chains and enjoy DawgBall.
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That’s very civil. Because you think it.
Trump is a racist and most respondents to a recent poll say so, is not civil because you disagree with it.
I’d also note that you chosen candidate has never acted civilly in his public life and that doesn’t bother you in the least.
Asshole in the WH? Got your vote.
Asshole on a blog? “I’m getting the vapors.” You’re just totally full of shit.
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Calm down Derek. There’s only 6.5 more years of this presidency.
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LOL. Putting aside the fact that he’s unlikely to finish his 1st term, the man lost the popular vote by 3 million – to the weakest Democratic candidate in modern time. He’s the most disliked President in history, and the worst, maybe second to James Buchanan. It’s a cute barb that the rubes like to toss around because they think it “owns the libs,” but it only furthers the case that you lot are woefully out of touch.
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Personally, I’ll never underestimate the Democratic party’s ability to fuck this all up. How do you lose to this idiot in the first place? It can’t happen again if the people are given a good choice, but who knows what they’ll spit out? The only Democrats elected in my lifetime have been likeable people. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders do not fit the mold. They’re Hillary v.2 and Dukakis v.2 respectively.
Republicans have proven that they will vote for literally anything. Our voters don’t come out for just anyone. They have to like/love him/her. We don’t hold our nose and vote anyway.
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I think the defeat of Joe Crowley by Ocasio-Cortez is the canary in the coal mine – the old guard is on the way out. It won’t be Warren or Sanders, it may not even be younger blood like Booker or Harris (though my money is on one of them). If Beto O’Rourke takes Cruz’s Senate seat (and this is looking like a distinct possibility) then I wouldn’t be shocked if his stock rises like a meteor.
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Your canary scares me.
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I’m not of a political mind aligned with hers, but it represents renewed energy at the level it needs to be to really shift things. Incumbents winning is a sign of apathy.
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The old guard is about dead. I would bet on Harris as the D nominee but I don’t see a California dem winning a national election. Cruz ain’t losing his senate seat.
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Cruz is only leading by five points to a relatively unknown junior Congressman from El Paso who has out-fundraised him in the first half of this year.
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With Vlad’s help, a rigged system of electing representatives, and heaping helping of good ole fashioned stupid, you may be right.
If his heart doesn’t explode from Big Macs and KFC before he’s 74, he’ll still be a race baiting, demogogue and moron.
The first real test of the American Idiot comes in November. I think Mein Fürhgrabber is gonna have a long night. If I’m right the rein of the Tangerine Mussolini will be nearing an end.
Did you hear he out polls Lincoln among Republicans? Very few people had cell and house phones back in 1862 as the iPhone was in its infancy, but the Gallup poll was going strong by going door to door. Look it up. Such a stable genius. Or morally bankrupt con man retard Russian agent.
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Still crossing my fingers that the House AND Senate flips so we can get an impeachment, though I’d take solace in just the House as it would at least put a check on the GOP.
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You two clowns are so out of touch with reality. Sad! Good luck with that Blue Wave.
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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At least we’re not traitors:
“The indictment alleges Russia “on or about July 27, 2016” started trying to access Clinton’s personal emails. Which is the same day Trump gave his “Russia if you’re listening, I hope your able to find the 30,000 emails…”
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Vlad appreciates your complicity.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html
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This is just sad to watch. Doggoned I guess you have your answer.
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Glad the Senator got his click bait. Derek is good for something I guess.
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A question for our esteemed panel of posters: Is this racism? https://www.thedailybeast.com/woman-arrested-after-allegedly-beating-elderly-man-telling-him-go-back-to-mexico?yptr=yahoo
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In the parlance of our times, and in due respect to 3rd, yes that’s racism.
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Agreed. Is there really any question?
Yes, black people can be racist too, just like there are rednecks in Massachusetts and even some mild-mannered soccer moms can be filthy, cock-craving MILFs. That’s what the Internet says, anyway.
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Attention Greg, you might want to get ahead of this:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2785759-louisville-football-players-want-papa-johns-branding-removed-after-racial-slur
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The Falcons, ATL UTD and the Braves all suspended their partnership. https://www.ajc.com/business/falcons-atlanta-united-suspend-papa-john-affiliation/49mja5iPeNrKBeoV4E4HuI/
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How did Colonel Sanders restore him reputation?
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He made good tasting chicken instead of lousy pizza. 😉
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I missed all the fun.
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This is the stupidest over reaction I’ve seen. I hope he sues Papa John’s and UL for everything he can get. PC police are the most self hating humans on the planet.
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Sue ’em for what?
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Oh look, another white person upset that they can’t say “n******.”
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I’m bored, I’m gonna click on an ad for every one of Derek’s it gets the Senator paid.
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