So now we’re going to hammer Drew Lock for stupid stuff he tweeted in his eighth grade year in middle school? (h/t)
Jeez, if that’s now the going standard for living the righteous life, there aren’t going to be enough hours in the day to rake every guilty soul over the coals. People do change from being idiotic fourteen-year olds, I’ve noticed. Maybe cutting some folks a little slack might be in order. Just sayin’.
That being said, kids, the next time an adult tells you to be careful what you post on social media, maybe you should think about paying attention.
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What an insufferable douche the anonymous guy who dug those up and gave them to the paper is. Lock must have stolen his girlfriend the next year in the ninth grade.
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Lock seems like an insufferable douche himself, so it’s hard to feel too bad for him.
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“Seems like an Insufferable douche”…what is it that makes him seem that way??
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The way he behaves on the field, obviously. It’s not like I’m around him to see how he behaves otherwise.
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How does he behave??
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Just say you’re fine with his antics and be done with it. Stop being obtuse.
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I have to admit I hadn’t noticed “antics.”
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The absurd celebrations, reacting to crowds, that kind of thing. I think it’s douchey behavior, and it makes me think he’s kind of an asshole in his normal life. Obviously, that’s a possibly unfair assessment, which is why I said “seems” originally.
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I guess I’m still numb from Tebow’s ludicrously long 1 yard gain celebrations. Without penalty of course because….well, we all know.
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I’m still amazed they let his taunting of the crowd go against LSU with his phone call thing.
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Tebow didn’t do anything but excessively celebrate. But the rule wasn’t made for folks like him. It’s pretty disgusting and pisses me off.
They were looking for a way to get AJ and they just let Tebow go on and on.
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I must admit I enjoyed Texas sticking his celebrations back down his throat in their bowl game. He’s like a Baker Mayfield with a much less talented team around him.
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LOL!!…guess you’re not the brightest bulb, hey?
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Drew Lock? I honestly haven’t noticed him being over-the-top. You sure you aren’t confusing him with Maker Bayfield? Because that guy is most certainly a douchenozzle.
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Thinks he is as confused about this as he is his handle.
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I vote for Tom Herman winning that douche contest.
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So the quarterback is a douche and the supposed adult is ok? Really? I don’t give a damn if the kid is a douche or not. Finding tweets from 8th grade is more than pathetic. Same shit was pulled on Sean Newcombe the other day ONLY because he was closing in on a no hitter. Garbage.
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No, the coach is worse, but the post wasn’t about Tom Herman.
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Mark Gastineau, Ali, David Pollack & even Mayfield. I have no problem with any of it if you can back it up with game. Sports can be emotional, let them show it…as long as it is within the rules & you don’t get penalized.
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Lock is a little sassy on the field. Especially when playing at home.
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WGAS……all kinda talking going on …on the football field. If you don’t think so, you’re kidding yourself.
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This is pretty douchey: “The most encouraging part for me is looking back at myself as a 14-year-old kid versus today as a 21-year-old leader of men and realizing how much I have grown as a person.”
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He is an “Insufferable Douche” because he does not play for my team.
Simple as that..
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No, I’d think it was douchey and embarrassing if Fromm did it, too.
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Well, if football doesn’t work out, looks like he can get a job at the NYT Op-Ed page
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Weak, very weak
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What are you a joke critic?
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Weaker still
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Weakest yet
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At least you’re original.
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Well, yea Walt. He needs to be much more hateful and bitter to qualify for the Times.
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Why do you say that?
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Because the lady the Times hired revealed some serious anger issues in her tweets.
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So do you think Ann Coulter is mean and hurtful? How about Hannity, Limbaugh, Jones, etc? Just wondering.
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Tu quoque doesn’t address the proposition. But I shan’t deign to argue with you. Yawn. Ciao.
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Spoken like someone who has no clue how much hate and abuse she suffered from racists and sexists that prompted those tweets.
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And where are the tweets of all that hate and abuse?
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I thought you left this thread. Guess I better brush up on my Eyetalian.
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I don’t think proof matters anymore my man.
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And before I get called names. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist in this case. I’m just bitching about the sorry state of the world.
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You’ve never been on twitter dot com, have you?
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Like the one’s about hating cops and men? I guess when a group of people are mean to you, that justifies racism, sexism, and whatever the word is for hating cops.
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WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE COPS???!!!
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Well, as long as she had a reason. It’s the (white) racists who have no reason for their racism that really get to me.
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Yeah, clearly he’s going to have to be way more blatantly offensive. But everyone needs goals to strive toward.
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LOL! Now that was funny. I haven’t read the tweets, and it seems that it will depend on what the NYT standard is for the day. It seems to have changed with Jeong from what it was for Norton. Of course, it could have more to do with who was disparaged in the tweets.
Funny post! Props to you Jeff.
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I agree. I just can’t stop laughing. Funny as hell. Especially, the part about NYT. Dude ought to go into comedy. Hell, he probably is a commedian or maybe a joke writer.
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Do you work for the Times or something? You seem awfully defensive over a cheeky jab.
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My bad, I thought this was a comments section.
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Yeah, clearly he’s going to have to be way more blatantly offensive. But everyone needs goals to strive toward. Stupid comments are still comments. You’re good to go,
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I think Walt might be in the newspaper business
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I didn’t call anyone stupid or an asshole either.
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+1
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On a college campus, especially that one, somebody’s always looking. His next tweet might be about SOD.
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Not clicking, but I can only imagine the grin of the SJW for every click it gets…today. And no one remembers tomorrow. What oil spill?
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Actually John Denver is dead
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So he’s probably REALLY full of shit. Hasn’t had a good healthy one in how many years?
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I would probably be considered an SJW by some of the commentariat here (a badge I wear proudly), but even I find this recent trend of digging up stupid things that guys said when they were teenagers (and, in this case, when Twitter was a completely different animal than it is now) to be really ridiculous. Most of us probably said stupid, sometime racist, sometimes hateful things when we were kids….my problem is with the people who never grew out of it.
And, by the way….I don’t really like Drew Lock, but based on this response he has a future in PR if football doesn’t work out for some reason. That was pretty much a master class in how to react to something like this.
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Everybody does – and the irony is that a lot of the people doing the digging these days are the ones who throw around the term “SJW.” James Gunn, the director of Guardians of the Galaxy, was fired by Disney because Trump cultist Mike Cernovich went digging through years of old tweets because he was pissed that Gunn was critical of Trump. It’s gotten to the point where we can’t enforce any standard of decency because when we do, someone goes “OH YEAH WELL WHATABOUT_____,” insisting we push the envelope to include something “the other side” did, until everything is completely and totally fucked for everyone.
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Perhaps the solution is not to fire people for “wrong think” when those people represent opposite sides of the political spectrum? Crazy thought that you probably agree with.
Sarah Jeong shouldn’t be fired. Kevin Williamson shouldn’t have been fired. James Gunn shouldn’t have been fired. Brendan Eich shouldn’t have been fired.
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Eventually, companies will realize that Twitter mobs aren’t going to cost them money, but it will take a few of them to put it to the test before this nonsense calms down.
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Easy to say when it isnt your money on the line.
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Don’t know who all these people are but if you screw with a man’s stock dividends you’ve got to go.
There is a different standard in place when you’re talking about $. If you’re in business you want ALL the business. In politics, 50% +1 (save presidential races of course) and you’re fine.
If the “pussy grabber” tape had come out while he was still hosting his show, he’d have been gone. No doubt in my mind. You’re screwing with people’s money then. No tolerance for it.
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Of course I agree in principle, but I also believe private business has the right to choose who they want to represent their brand. The villain isn’t the employers firing people – it’s us. The notion that we can either hold everyone to an impossible standard of moral righteousness, or none at all. That’s why we have a President who is completely morally bankrupt while others in the private and public sector are crucified for failing to be perfect. The center cannot hold.
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In fairness, we had a choice of two morally bankrupt candidates in this latest case. That’s a flaw in the system, but that’s another matter. I’m fairly certain that the only person Trump could have beaten is Hillary, and I’m pretty sure the only person that would make some segment of the population long for Hillary is Trump. Putting aside the tribal nature of politics where a decent number of people would have freaked the fuck out over anyone from the wrong tribe.
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I think Hillary’s main problem was being unlikeable more than the substance, but I agree that she was poison as a candidate, for whatever reason you choose. Every Democratic nominee who has been personally liked since 1988 has won. The stiffs: Kerry, Dukakis, Gore and HRC all lost. (I would note that Gore and HRC both got more votes.)
Someone still needs to explain the freak out over Obama that has zero to do with his race.
I remember when he won. I told my wife that night: these people are gonna freak the fuck out.
And they proceeded to do just that. For me, the Tea Party and Trump are a reaction to Obama and it has everything to do with race.
I’m not saying every (or even most) Republican is a racist. I’m saying that the racists, and there are a lot of them in this country, vote Republican.
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The Republican party catered to the racists to bolster their election chances during the Obama administration, and the racism consumed the party. It has zero to do with fiscally conservative governance anymore, it’s just straight ethno-nationalism with a good sprinkling of theocracy on top.
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and they got their tax cut so they’re ok with it.
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That’s baloney. He governed as a hard core liberal. Business owners were killed, absolutely killed by Obamacare. Anyone in the individual market that had to pay for their own healthcare came out way worse under that mess. Also, the Tea Party was more a reaction against Bush and Obama than just Obaman. It was all about the bailouts of the people who should not have been bailed out. Calling them racist is just an easy dodge of bad policy the Tea Party wanted to point out.
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So unpopular and dumb that they came up with an alternative right? Better health care a a fraction of the cost right?
People like most of what the ACA does. That plan was a conservative think tank’s alternative to single payer. That’s the hard core liberal solution and the one I favor. Its just stupid to point to ACA as an example of “hard core liberal.” Its a moderate to conservative effort to:
reduce the cost of HC
decrease the number of medical cost bankruptcies
cover people who are difficult to cover so they aren’t as significant a burden on the taxpayers
Its fucking Romney-care. Remember when you nominated that guy? I do.
There should never have been a need to bailout Wall Street but if we hadn’t it would have made the Depression look like the fucking Garden of Eden. We were weeks away from empty grocery store shelves.
The Tea Party was a “re-branding” effort away from Bush because he was toxic after 8 years of dumb irresponsibility. I will remind you that their clarion call tho was “we want our country back” from the black guy. Just like its really Make America White Again.
You can deny that there are racists in this country but its a damn lie. They are loud and proud and numerous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJlZyFxp88
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Of course there are racist in this country. We see it daily with identity politics. I still hope that what MLK says will come true one day… you know, the idea about character instead of color, etc. Unfortunately, one party in this country tries real hard to keep color, race, etc. as a reason to discriminate. Identity politics are about as bigoted as one can get.
The ACA was clearly hard core liberal. That conservative think tank you mentioned actually threw away that idea, rightfully so, years ago. Not one conservative voted for the ACA and for good reason. As I stated, it has ruined the individual market. The sooner it is canned the better off many (not all) will be. The only people the ACA works for are those that are getting subsidized by the taxpayers.
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Calling Mexicans rapists is playing on racism.
Suggesting that Hispanics are “infesting” America is playing on racism.
Separating THOSE people’s parents and kids because fuck ‘em they’re brown is racist.
There is NOTHING you can point to from the TOP of the Democratic Party that any such direct appeals to people’s hate at play. Because it ain’t there.
The heritage foundation disowned it when it was adopted. Not before. It remains the only plan the right has ever come up with to try to help the fact that we spend double in GDP on HC and deliver an inferior product to most western democracies and Cuba.
Their current plan is “who gives a fuck? We don’t.”
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By racists voting Republican, of course you mean WHITE racists voting republican. La Raza and Farrakhan aren’t pulling any R levers. But there is one party they support wholeheartedly.
Of course, it’s stupid to insist that opposition to a disciple of Jeremiah Wright who had a history as a radical, socialist, race-baiting community organizer and little experience in national politics must be motivated by nothing more than racism.
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That is not racism coming directly from the mouth of candidate or the office holder. I don’t expect you’re smart enough to understand there’s a difference.
I’m not pointing a finger at David Duke which would be an equivalent of your argument. I’m pointing a finger at the Tangerine Mussolini.
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You don’t even understand racism well enough to make the argument. A wall must be racist because somebody brown told you to think that, so you’re following orders like a good little useful idiot.
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Thanks for the “nanny-nanny boo boo.”
It is the pinnacle of your rhetorical capacities. At least I bring out the best you’ve got right?
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I just enjoy watching you attempt to make points. You argue that all racists are Republican voters. When faced with the fact that make racists are Democrats, you switch gears to arguing about politicians. Which is equally stupid. What’s your evidence? It’s whatever somebody else told you to think. Immigration laws are racist, but bombing foreign children isn’t. Precious.
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Identity politics comes from the mouth of every democratic leader. Those politics are pure racism.
The whole “require people to buy insurance” was NEVER embraced by conservatives on a national level. It was not constitutional (and still isn’t despite what the supreme court thinks). Republicans rejected the concept in the 1990s.
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And we I say asshole I mean this asshole among them:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/justice-department-finds-no-responsive-records-support-trump-speech
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Wrong spot. Oh well.
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Yeats’ poem is having a revival.
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;”
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I’m with Scott on this one. I would definitely be called a SJW by many here and am 100% proud of it, but this shit is lame. The kid was 14. Not saying we shouldn’t tell him how dumb it was, but harping on what a 14-year-old said/did is just dumb.
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Social media…the ability to prove your stupidity to the masses instead of just those closest to you. Can’t we just leave it to the professionals like Kim Kardashian?
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Ridiculous. Next up are the tawdry hand written letters with things like :Do you like me check yes or no or maybe? Circa 1951 Lewis Grizzard to Kathy Sue Loudermilk
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Lot of stones being thrown from glass houses these days.
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The first one has the defense of “parlance of our time.” That slur wasn’t on the “no no” list until recently.
As for the second, while unfortunate, stereotypes of this type are a pretty universal cheap joke. There’s no suggestion of inferiority or superiority just distinctions. https://youtu.be/nRmPFnWKfdc
As far as dredging up old stuff tho, I don’t necessarily have a problem with it if it’s part of a much needed process of reconciliation. But let’s not destroy somebody for youthful stupidity and indiscretion.
We need to constantly “own up” and confront and improve, individually and collectively. If we treat these things that way instead of being either defensive or righteously indignant maybe we could make some progress.
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Dredging up old stuff is used much more as a gratuitous club to hurt people than it is used for reconciliation. Everybody’s done regrettable things, nobody’s special.
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I’m not disagreeing. But the other side of the coin is the reticence to confront past sins.
While I agree that using past mistakes as a cudgel to beat people up is wrong, its equally wrong when people want to stick their fingers in their ears and scream every time slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing of the native Americans, get mentioned. Both grace and acknowledgement of errors are essential to moving forward.
Its a two way street.
The problem is that there’s always some asshole trying to grab power by exploiting that tension instead and that forces people to choose sides.
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The key issue is WHY one wants to confront past sins. The fact is that for decades, everyone acknowledges that slavery, land theft, etc., happened and shouldn’t have. If you want to use that to ensure that it doesn’t happen again, you’ll find no opposition. If you want to use it to argue that some demographics owe other demographics something, then you will. Is it racist to argue that a seventh generation descendant of a slave owner doesn’t owe anything to a seventh generation descendant of a slave? Of course not. But that’s exactly the argument that is made. Maybe in another 150 years, we can put slavery in the past. Probably not. But one can hope.
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This SJW “movement” is not about owning up and improving. It’s about using sanctimony to procure social status and power, plain and simple. That’s why the search for offenses gets more and more petty. The need to feel superior is insatiable. They are the “church ladies” and town busybodies from yesteryear redressed in secular clothing. They are not Rosa Parks. They are the Harper Valley PTA. Righteous people do not constantly seek to condemn and hector others to make themselves feel worthy.
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“Harper Valley PTA”. Well done. Can I borrow that?
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I need to create a business plan for charging famous people to go into their accounts and delete tweets for them, seeing as how this totally obvious action hasn’t been done by lots of people with lots to lose.
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If you’re looking for business partners I’m all in. ‘Social media cleanse’ should be taught in college if nothing else. Many big companies scrub your social media accounts before considering you for a job.
Lock may very well be a racist bigot, but anyone mining the tweets of an 8th grader for publicity can get fucked. That being said, if our defense wants to make Lock’s day especially miserable when we play them I won’t be mad.
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It’s really an easy piece of software that searches for key words and deletes. Obviously we package it as an app and sell it to the right people for a $200 an install.
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Exactly. The key to anything related to the web is to never let people know there’s a cheap way of doing what we’re going to charge a premium for.
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The timing of my life has been spectacular: young enough to take advantage of all the advances in medicine, but old enough not to have had social media when I was 13-14. 🙂
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Amen, brother.
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For real
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Silencing people you don’t agree with by excoriating and dehumanizing them over the dumbest thing they’ve ever said is the new national past time.
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Its interesting that everyone immediately assumes that this was some SJW boogeyman, when this was really a Kansas fan with time on his hands.
twitter searching for keywords is pretty straightforward if you want to kill some time.
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It’s SJWs who have made it possible. Wrong think is now a capital offense. Others are now simply playing by the new rules.
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Stuff like this “story” makes me hate people sometimes.
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People suck. Suddenly everything sucks. Need college football STAT.
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Young athlete is embarrassed for a few days and apologizes. Nothing to see here. Big picture question. Is the flippant racism found in these old tweets indicative of a larger pervasive amount of racism that lurks beneath the surface of our society? Many commenters here can probably recall using similar language in a joking manner whether it was as a child or even today in private conversations (Having never met any of you I am profiling that most of you are white guys over the age of 35, and many of you are successful professionals). I don’t blame the kids, but they are learning this shit from somewhere.
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Excellent thread title, Senator.
See post above.
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SO much irony here lol
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The irony of your not-so-humble virtue signalling was not lost on me.
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You assume I don’t account myself among the guilty I was referring to.
You’re response is a more refined version of “you think you’re better than me?” Lol.
If my original comment offended you then your life is really easy.
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My response was merely affirming the pervasiveness of the SJW movement in social media, which I think we all agree has gone too far in this instance. You turning it into an opportunity to virtue signal was ironic.
The only thing that offends me is the threat of political correctness on free society, which you are either a product of, or a post-modern ideologue that has created it.
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Free speech isn’t the same as having no consequence for the things you say. Free speech is a legal issue. If you tell your boss where he can shove his opinion and he fires you the free speech argument won’t save you.
Like I said, if you’re offended by this you probably don’t really know the meaning of being offended. Really you’re just mad and you’re confusing that with actually being offended which is a joke in and of itself.
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I agree with your first premise. I don’t understand what it has to do with what I was talking about though.
Post modernistic collectivism triggers the fuck out me. You, personally, do not, despite your willing or unwilling complicity.
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Isn’t collectivism and the idea that the group is more important than the individual essentially what every coach preaches to his team? This is a football blog after all.
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I don’t consider myself an SJW btw. I’m just a white guy who has worked in the hood for about 5 years, and when I look around it has become obvious that the people in these suffering communities didn’t choose this for themselves. If my worst fear is somebody digging up some of my old tweets then I’m probably operating from an advantaged position IMHO, YMMV of course.
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Checking your own privilege? Priceless.
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Really great comments here. Chilidawg’s social commentary normally makes me roll my eyes but he is spot on today. The thing I’m surprised by is some of you guys who describe yourselves as SHE types think you’re in the minority here. Not from where I sit. Reading comments here any time the topic is political always leaves me thinking, “For a southern college football fan base ours is decidedly politically liberal.” I especially liked what was said about the center not being able to hold. In today’s climate of virtue signalling nobody can be progressive or open minded enough. The goal posts get moved so fast that anything short of being perfect makes you a bigot. Or a fascist.
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Surprised? Might be your definition of “liberal” that’s off. The new right labels anyone who isn’t on the “trump train” as a liberal. Yes, I am a liberal, in the classical sense, but I don’t think that means what you think it means.
I chuckled at you guys yesterday saying I’m the “ban all guns” type. You say “anything short of being perfect makes you a bigot or a fascist.” What you don’t appear to recognize is that you guys basically do the same thing to anyone who doesn’t share your uncompromising stance on certain sacred cows.
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Its different when they do it because they say so.
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S J W types not SHE types. I hate when I have to trick this thing.
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Oh I see what you did there.
h/t
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I laughed at it the first time around, Mike….should have left it alone . Justice is a word not unlike “hope and change”……I don’t know what it means. One man’s justice is another man’s vengeance and vice versa..I guess I lack conviction as to what Justice looks like which according to Derek and Yeats makes me the “best”
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Illiteracy is not a badge of honor.
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so who is illiterate you ,me or Yeats? I’m going back to work now…I suggest you do the same..
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With the full support of the Hargrett Library, our staffers are currently researching all historic student-athlete and coaches’ social media correspondence for possible game suspensions and fines.
Rest assured, no one does righteous indignation like The Georgia Way.
And that’s yet another Bulldog Point of Pride!
#NOTWEETUNHEARD #COMMITTOTHEG
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Man there is a ton of Butt Hurt in theses comments. Everyone is so sensitive today
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No kidding. People need to get a life. I see worse shit written online everyday.
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Political grandstanding aside, dredging up comments from a 14 year old to use against him as an adult is about as chickenshit as it gets. And the sanctimonious asshole who wrote the linked article is just as bad for pontificating on it. I wonder how he would feel if someone wrote something similar after searching his 14 year old kid’s browsing history………
The douchebag is the guy who used the 14 year old Drew Lock as a soapbox. Ugh. People suck.
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Might be my definition of liberal is off? Like you have a grip on the nuances of it and I dont? Lol. Dude,spare me the intellectual posturing. I’m not impressed and don’t find you nearly as intelligent as you seem to want me to believe that you are. Might be that yours is off. As for the last part of your post, your the guy talking about an AR15 like it’s a rocket launcher. But, you’re right that conservatives are as hypocritical as liberals. Totally agree. As far
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….as far as “You guys” references in your posts, I’m not a member of a team in terms of political party. Your brand of preachiness has just been particularly obnoxious so I addressed it. This post is meant for chilidawg btw.
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As far as the last part of your post, your the guy talking about an AR15 like it’s a rocket launcher.
Really? I did that? Funny. Here’s what I said yesterday –
How many of you had AR-15’s?
That was, in fact, my only comment at all, and it was merely a question. You have serious issues with projection.
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You have serious issues with butthurt.
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I think it’s quite clear who the butthurt party is here. The usual suspects.
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Whatever makes you feel better, chili.
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