Your 8.22.18 Playpen

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  1. Atlanta Magazine has just published its list of the metro area’s top ten BBQ joints. They are, in order:

    1. B’s Cracklin’
    2. Community Q
    3. Heirloom Market BBQ
    4. Fox Bros. Bar-B-Q
    5. Zeigler’s
    6. DAS BBQ
    7. Dave Poe’s BBQ
    8. Thompson Brothers BBQ
    9. Dixie Q
    10. Anna’s BBQ

    I’ve hit six of the ten there (#s 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7) and enjoyed myself at all of ‘em. I can quibble a little about the order at the top – Heirloom is my gold standard and it looks like AM docked Heirloom a bit for not having any seating – but I would have the same top four in some order.

    A few years ago, if you’d have asked me, I would have placed Greater Good BBQ in my top ten, but the last time I had something there, it seemed like the quality had dropped off.

    The good news is that this city is now a good barbecue town. Amen!

    Anybody tried any of the four places on that list I haven’t? Or have suggestions for their own top ten in metro Atlanta?

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    • Hogbody Spradlin

      I’m a Fox Brothers man myself. Brisket as good as any in Texas. YMMV.

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      • It doesn’t.

        Well, maybe a little. 😉

        Seriously, it’s probably my favorite in town, but compared to what I had in Austin a couple of years ago, nah.

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        • MillyDawg

          Fox Bro’s brisket is right up there with Salt Lick BBQ outside of Austin.

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          • gastr1

            Almost any barbecue in Texas and Kansas City beats all those places. There, I said it.

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            • Tronan

              Depends on what you’re in the mood for. The SE does pork better than KC and TX. IMHO, KC does brisket the best while – coming at an oblique angle here – TX sausage is unsurpassed.

              Uh, that didn’t quite sound right.

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              • Bulldog Joe

                Pecan Lodge in Dallas, Texas (Deep Ellum) for brisket.

                Better than any place I’ve been to in KC.

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                • Bulldog Joe

                  KC is no slouch, though. For the best burnt ends, take the 30 minute ride south to Martin City to Fiorella’s Jack Stack BBQ. It’s much better than the one in the freight house. Worth the drive.

                  Also, Jess & Jim’s Steakhouse is a couple blocks away and serves a great KC strip with the seasoning. It’s now my favorite no-frills KC steak place since they burned the Hereford House down.

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                • gastr1

                  Sorry, man, Jack Stack is good but not the best. Hayward’s (now in Lenexa) and Joe’s KC are both better.

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                • Bulldog Joe

                  I need to try Joe’s next time in town. Heard a lot about it.

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                • gastr1

                  Jack Stack is a great place, though, for sure.

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              • Mad Mike

                It’s like you WANT someone to make a joke at your expense. Lol

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              • gastr1

                Joe’s Kansas City does pork better than anywhere I’ve had it otherwise. And I was just in South Carolina and North Carolina last week to make the comparison.

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              • gastr1

                I have to say, Tronan, if you really think the brisket is better in KC than in Texas, you just haven’t been to the right places in Tx yet. Unless you’re talking about burnt ends, which are in fact bbq gold…

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                • Tronan

                  TX brisket is just great, but Gates & Sons and Arthur Bryant’s are the best I’ve had. Nostalgia could be influencing my opinion, though. I used to go to those two places when I was little (I was born in KC) and their style of brisket is what I grew up thinking brisket should taste like.

                  I’ve had (Oklahoma) Joe’s pork. It was very good, but no better than at any number of places in GA.

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                • gastr1

                  Fair enough. Make sure to tell me which places in Ga. re: the pork so I can make a point of getting there next time I’m there.

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              • Uglydawg

                This is heresy according to UGA Saint Lewis Grizzard.
                “If it ain’t pork, it ain’t BBQ”

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          • Jack Klompus

            No offense, Milly, but that’s not saying much.

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          • Silver Creek Dawg

            Not the Fox Bros I had. Salt Lick is far better.

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            • gastr1

              I tried the Salt Lick in the Dallas airport and it was pretty bad, but it’s the airport, so it doesn’t count, IMO. Need to get there next time in the area. Have you been to Louie Mueller’s? That’s my personal favorite so far.

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              • Bulldog Joe

                Salt Lick in Driftwood is great for atmosphere, just OK on the BBQ, IMO. Also has a winery on site. Weird combination, I know.

                Also try the Jester King brewery while you are out that way.

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                • stoopnagle

                  This is a good take. Salt Lick is all about the atmosphere with decent bbq.

                  Eventually I’ll get back to Texas and try all the bbq. It’s been 15 years since I was in Austin/Hill Country.

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                • Otto

                  Austin residents view Salt Lick as mostly for tourists but many will tell you the Peach Cobbler is darn good. If I ever went back I’d get ribs and cobbler.

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                • AusDawg85

                  Correct. Franklins is now the gold standard in Austin and Valentina’s is 1A. Salt Lick is for the tourists. Texas doesn’t cook pig, but…damn fine babyback ribs are at Opie’s in Spicewood.

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        • ugafidelis

          That’s one problem with going to the mecca. Once you come back, nothing is the same.

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          • gastr1

            +1. I grew up on Carolina BBQ, but once I moved to the midwest, my personal regional loyalties gave in to my tastebuds.

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            • Hogbody Spradlin

              A lot of this is apples to oranges. I grew up on Stamey’s in Greensboro and frequently stop there and love it, but pork is just different from ribs, and ribs from brisket, etc.

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              • Mad Mike

                Is that the place in the old gas station?

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              • gastr1

                I seems to me that if a place is not offering something that another place does really well, that’s fair game for comparison.

                For example, no one in Kansas City does brisket as well as they do in Texas, but Texas also does beef ribs and sausage, which are amazing, btw. But no one in Texas does burnt ends, as they all do in KC, and that’s fantastic. And they pretty much all do pork as well– ribs, pulled, etc. To wit, the best pulled pork I’ve had, after growing up in NC, is from a place in Kansas City.

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        • Senator: Where in Austin. I found some little wagon out on the sidewalk on the east side of town, with fantastic BBQ and brisket. Wish I could remember the name.

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        • Kdawg

          Senator, have you been to Franklin’s BBQ in Austin?

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    • heyberto

      Where does Lewis Grizzards’s favorite figure in? Sprayberry’s?

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      • PTC DAWG

        I try to hit the original spot once a month…

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      • Grizzard was a DGD, but his taste in BBQ joints was hit or miss. Spray’s is meh, IMO. Sweat’s in Soperton was borderline inedible. The one time I ate there, I didn’t finish my meal.

        On the other hand, Harold’s cracklin’ cornbread was worth the price of admission. And Fresh Air is a good joint.

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        • paul

          Did you eat at the original location of Sweat’s? Once it got ‘discovered’ and they ‘upgraded’ the facilities it was never much good in my opinion.

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        • dawgfan

          I had forgotten about Harold’s! That cornbread and stew were the best anywhere. You could request in and out meat too! As you walked in the door they were chopping the meat in the open to your right and one of the employees was always packing heat. The last time I was there several years ago it looked like it had changed ownership and wasn’t nearly as good. I’m with you on Fresh Air.

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        • PTC DAWG

          Harolds stew and cornbread is mist.

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        • heyberto

          When I lived in Georgia, I never made it to the west side o the state much, so never got to eat there. Interesting take.. thanks Senator.

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        • Otto

          Sprayberry’s just off I85 was much better than the original but still not outstanding on limited 1 time visit to each other past 2-3 years.

          Also speaking of legends I went to Fresh Air BBQ in Warner Robbins (not the original) and thought the pork was very meh but the chicken look good, stew was solid.

          I like Que in Alpharetta as an underrated standby which is close to me. I don’t get down to Heirloom and Das BBQ near as often as I would like.

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        • Uglydawg

          Sparyberry’s is overpriced and underserved. “Meh” is an over-rate.

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    • Snoop Dawgy Dawg

      That Sam’s BBQ 1 in East Cobb isn’t on that list is a travesty. Their BBQ is amazing, and their Mac n Cheese is better than my mom’s. There, I said it. Good thing my mom will never read this.
      At least they didn’t put Fat Matt’s, the most overrated BBQ in atlanta.

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      • If mac and cheese is your thing, you should hit B’s Cracklin’, which has phenomenal M&C. Also, the hash is fantastic.

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      • Otto

        I made it to Sam’s East Cobb just once and it may have been on an off day but I was not impressed. It was just before or after the July 4th rush so maybe the regular pit master was not working. However I have been to Sam’s BBQ West Cobb and it was night and day better.

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        • 79Dawg

          Exact opposite thoughts here – the original East Cobb Sam’s is much better than West.
          I prefer Dave Poe’s anyway, and disagree with Mayor that they are essentially the same.
          Am I the only one who like Spiced Right (Roswell)’s spare ribs?
          Finally, does mentioning Maurice’s in South Carolina violate the TOS for the Playpen???
          P.S. I still can’t believe Johnny Harris’ is gone!

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          • Silver Creek Dawg

            Grew up in Savannah and Johnny Harris was way overrated. Just meh. I will say their Carolina Gold BBQ sauce is good though.

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      • Mayor

        I’m glad you mentioned Sam’s. If nobody else did I would have. Sam and Dave Poe used to be partners and Dave’s is essentially the same as Sam’s. Sam’s should definitely be on the list.

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    • NCDawg

      My problem with lists like this is they paint BBQ with a broad brush. Pulled pork, brisket and ribs should be rated separately. They are different skill sets. At B’s for example. Love the pulled pork, but the brisket is only fair. Some what dry when I had it. When I go for BBQ, I generally don’t go for some kind of BBQ. I’m going for pork or brisket.

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    • Harold Miller

      I’m glad you mentioned Greater Good. I feel the same way.

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  2. 81Dog

    Charles Pierce is an idiot! (am I doing the shit post thing right?) 😉

    Seriously, if you just want to nuke all the political stuff all across the spectrum, you would be ahead of the game. Consider me a bad socialist. I do like BBQ, though, always liked the Brunswick stew at the Hickory House on Northlake Parkway.

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    • I remember the original HH in Buckhead. You’re right about the Brunswick stew, although the rest of what they served was eminently forgettable.

      The stew at Old South BBQ in Smyrna is very underrated.

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  3. Keese

    Joes in blue ridge and Biggins in talking rock would be tops for me outside of Atl

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  4. Saccerdawg

    I like Hudson’s in D’ville.

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  5. John Denver is full of shit...

    Any Atlanta BBQ list without Fatt Matt’s is no list at all.

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  6. Dolly Llama

    Anybody remember Cherry’s outside Athens out about Ila on 106? I remember as a boy I never ate anything but their Brunswick Stew, because I just never wanted anything else.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      You may be talking about what’s out there now, Scott’s BBQ.

      Pureed stew is tasty.

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      • Dolly Llama

        After posting, I’m not sure if it was on 106 or 145 going into Athens, but I would be astounded if it’s still around. When went there in the early 1980’s when I was a preteen. I can still taste their stew, though.

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  7. mwo

    Stripling’s has great stew packed to go. I was hoping instead of the playpen you would call this Oh, FFS!

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  8. TimberRidgeDawg

    Heirloom is numero uno for me.

    Place off the list I like in East Cobb called Righteous ‘Que that’s worth a visit

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    • The other Doug

      Yep. Heirloom is the place I miss the most and tops the list of places I must go to while back in Atlanta.

      fwiw, #1 used to be Greenwoods in Roswell. Man I miss that fried chicken and pie.

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  9. Mark

    If you’re gonna start a non football thread, Atlanta’s best BBQ may be the best topic. My Dad worked off Cleveland Avenue and back in the late 70s we’d meet him at that HIckory House at the intersection of Cleveland and Stewart most Friday evenings. In the fall they always had the current week’s edition of Leonard Losers which was prognosticating gold. Thanks stirring the memories.

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    • Russ

      Yep, we used to eat at that HH. Southside representin’!

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      • RangerRuss

        Bank’s BBQ in Elberton used to be a destination. I taught a class there last Friday. A group of the quarry men had lunch at Bank’s. I asked the big man how it was? “The chitlins were out of this world good!” His breath nearly made me puke my Vienna sausages.

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    • ETDF

      Man I miss Leonard’s Losers. That was as much a part of my UGA experience as the game its self. Please tell me I can still find it via a streaming network!

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      • Russ

        I’ve never been able to find it archived anywhere. There was a current version someone was doing, but it was a poor imitation. I used to have a cassette with the “Fire up the Dawgs” show that used to broadcast on game days in Athens. I had a Leonard’s Losers or two caught in there. Wish I could find the tape.

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        • Normaltown Mike

          Fun Fact from an old dirt lawyer: Leonard Postero was a builder/developer and had a ton of real estate around Athens back in the day. Running his name took awhile

          I think that Len Davis (retired UGA attorney) did the radio spots for a few years after Leonard died.

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      • Tronan

        LL came out as a newspaper-style insert when I was in Athens (mid- to late 80s). It was always an end-of-the-week highlight.

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        • Trbodawg

          There are a couple of shows on YouTube, but i too have been looking for an archive. Leonard is in the Ga Radio Hall of Fame, but I don’t think they have any tapes.

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  10. Borodawg

    Can y’all help me remember? When at UGA (graduated in 1996) we went to a BBQ (at least that is what I ordered) place outside of Athens heading East on 29. Made several turns out in the sticks to get there. They had glass flasks on the table that held the sauce, think it was vinegar based. Any clue?

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    • Bulldog Joe

      Swamp Guinea, perhaps?

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      • Fun story – my family owns the Swamp Guinea in Hartwell so I spent a lot of time in the restaurant and lake growing up. My great-uncle lived in the house just up the hill from the restaurant. Our cousins used to own the one in Thompson, but got out of the business like 15 years ago. Hush puppies were the best thing on the menu.

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        • DawginUtah

          Booty’s Fish House in Royston is where it’s at.

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        • S

          Ha! One of your family was in a Marine Bio lab that I taught as a teaching assistant at UGA. I was talking before class about how sad it was that the Swamp Guinea closed and she told me about the Hartwell location.

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    • DawgFlan

      I can’t remember if it was the 29 or 441 (before it was expanded) but when I was at UGA at the late 90’s there used to be a place right off the road with a wooden sign, and you would go up the driveway past the house and there was a shed in the back converted to a BBQ restaurant. Only place I have ever had roast goat. Talk about a hole…

      As for Atlanta, Heirloom takes top prize for me. The problem with BBQ is that it can be so inconsistent. I live a mile from Community Q, and at it’s best it can’t be beat, but I have had a couple of off meals. If I am taking the whole family out, I’d rather go to the original Greater Good in Tucker. Consistently decent, with good sides for everyone. Hickory House is fun for a cheap breakfast and it’s like entering a time warp, but no on the BBQ.

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      • Got Cowdog

        I used to hit that place up, too. The goat wasn’t bad!

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      • Bulldog Joe

        Sounds like Old Will’s on old 29 near the Winder airport.

        Used to stop there before they built 316.

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      • Satowndawg

        You’re speaking of gene’s bbq.. old timer was a great guy..loaf of white bread and a pitcher of sweet tea on the table…hash was great and if you finished your plate he gave you seconds free of charge

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        • Normaltown Mike

          Where exactly was it?

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        • DawgFlan

          YES!!! Gene’s. Thank you. Man, what memories.

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          • SAtownDawg

            No problem…I always remembered the name but not the location…off 29 sounds right…maybe it’s nostalgia, but Ive been stationed in SC, NC and TX and have had a lot of cue, but would put Gene’s pulled pork and hash up against any of them…definite NE GA/NC style, similar to Zeb’s and a favorite of mine that was up in Royston — forgotten the name…always wondered if anyone else had eaten or remembered the place

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    • stoopnagle

      29? Zeb’s?

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      • Got Cowdog

        No, this place was on 129 on the right coming in to town from Jefferson. Maybe less than a mile from the bypass. Seems like the goat was on Wednesday? I washed cars for a mechanic’s shop while I was in school and would go get everyone a plate for lunch.
        I also came back to Athens to work in 08, it was already gone by then. I don’t know that I ever knew the name of it.

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    • Dawginutah

      Zebs

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  11. waterloodawg

    Chunky peanut butter and bread n butter pickles are terrible. Those who enjoy them have no taste!

    Is that ok or do I need to use all caps and more exclamation points?

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  12. Oh good hell. This thread will be 200 deep by the end of today. Have fun.

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  13. Spike

    Dale’s BBQ.. Fort Pierce, Fl! and Rudy’s in Texas!

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    • Silver Creek Dawg

      For a chain, Rudy’s is not bad. It was better when Rudy was still around. Again, for a chain, Dickey’s is ok too.

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      • Russ

        I’ll eat at Rudy’s. Like most chains, what it has going for it is consistency. I know what I’m going to get when I order there, and it’s not bad. Certainly not the best, but it’s close by, easy to get to, and I know what to expect.

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      • Got Cowdog

        You should go wash your mouth out with soap. Dickie’s. Blah. You might as well have said Sonny’s.

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        • AusDawg85

          Dickie’s is terrible. Rudy extra moist is damn good as is their sauce, but not where I’d take a visitor. They also have a hamburger chain called Mighty Fine and that is an outstanding burger. Better than 5 Guys in MHO.

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    • 86 BONE

      Spike, Rudy’s is average at best buddy. I grew up on the banks of the Savannah River and have eaten Q all over the south, and now in Texas, which ain’t the south…ask me about my bush axe story one day….and I know two things for sure:
      1) A snake can’t stratle a log
      2) There ain’t nothing better than great BBQ, regardless of where it comes from!

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      • Otto

        Texas isn’t the south. Boy… Texans hate being told that but then if they speak on their own they put Texas as almost independent and say how much better it is than anywhere outside of their borders….

        Texas BBQs beef, the south serves BBQ.

        I have had some good BBQ’d beef at Hard 8 in Dallas. Salt Lick was overrated IMO. The sausage is good out there. Brisket will never ever come close to being better than BBQ (pork) IMO.

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        • 86 BONE

          Shit Boweeeee….right on!!

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        • Russ

          All the native Texans I know (starting with my wife) will tell you straight up that Texas ain’t the south. I’m fine with that assessment, and agree.

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          • Otto

            A friend from Tennessee who is living in College Station now started this topic on her Facebook page and some “native” Texans very much disagreed.

            Granted I have also talked to “native” Georgians who are best 1st generation and their parents weren’t from the South (or Texas).

            I put them as similar in values but different, at least they serve sweet tea.

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          • Mark

            If you ask a Texan, “Are you a southerner, or a westerner?”, the answer will be, “I’m a Texan.”

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            • Russ

              Yep. And there’s the Original Mexican Cafe’ in Galveston with their motto “In Galveston. Near Texas.” Texans are an independent bunch.

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  14. Snoop Dawgy Dawg

    LOUD NOISES!

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  15. DT

    You know who ain’t got good BBQ at all? Columbia, SC. Better take some wid ya boys… GATA!!!!!!

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  16. Hogbody Spradlin

    At least once back in the 80’s the AJC rated no. 1 The Flying Pig on Virginia Ave. in Hapeville. Is it still around.

    How about the place down Capital Ave. toward the prison?

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    • DawgFlan

      Pit Boss just off Virginia is a good, cheap option in the area for BBQ. Won’t light your world on fire, but decent BBQ with a bar.

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    • Red Cup

      That was Harolds- it is closed

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    • Uglydawg

      The Flying Pig was good..real good..the guy would put your bbq sandwich on a paper towel and place it right on the filthy table. Roaches were everywhere and not shy…the windows had never been washed and you could barely see outside..but the BBQ was delicious…

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  17. ASEF

    I only get to visit ATL about twice a year, so I will put B’s and Community on my list for next time.

    Fox Bros was a bit of a disappointment. I got burnt ends, and… not a lot of flavor there, which seems hard to accomplish in a burnt end.

    Heirloom was awesome. Father’s Day 2016, I ate a sandwich and a couple of ribs to make sure, and then I took home about 20 pounds of various products for my Father’s Day Feast. I was popular that day back home.

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  18. Ellis

    I sent a link of the article in The Athletic yesterday to my friends in Austin regarding the possibility of a Georgia-Texas home and home and the discussion inevitably turned up where this thread is today. Having lived in central Texas for sometime, there are too many good BBQ joints to mention, Coopers and Black’s probably my two favorites. But the list is equally as long here in the southeast. The beauty of bbq is the regional flavor.

    Senator, you did a solid job with the list above for Atlanta. An off the beaten path place I recently ate lunch at in Marietta is a place called Freckles and Blue and it was some of the best brisket I have had outside of Texas. Ya’ll check it out.

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  19. Mad Mike

    Here’s a related question, best barbecue places south of Macon? I’m not driving three hours (I’m in DoCo) just to eat barbecue, or well, anything for that matter.

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  20. Geezus

    If you’re in Jacksonville, NC (Camp LeJeune), check out Mission Barbeque … good stuff.

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    • Mad Mike

      It’s been 15 years, but I stilI hope I’m never in Jack Vegas again!

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      • MDDawg

        I was thinking Mission Barbeque as well. They have them up here in MD as well and this thread has got me thinking of stopping in there for lunch. They have consistently excellent service on top of the good food.

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        • ChiliDawg

          I hit the one in Columbia up every once in awhile. It’s pretty good. Service is great, but I wish they’d tone down on the over-the-top displays of “patriotism.” I appreciate the veteran discounts, but a little uncomfortable with marketing yourself with stuff like “join us for lunch on Tuesdays when we sing the national anthem!” That’s just tacky, IMO. But the deuce and a half with a smoker in the back? Awesome.

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      • Geezus

        Nice, you would not recognize the town now, it has tripled in size. I live in New Bern and venture over maybe once a month.

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        • Mad Mike

          That’s what I’ve heard, in all honestly I’d probably swing through there if I was in the area just to check it out.

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  21. RandallPinkFloyd

    Rodney Scott’s in Charleston is incredible. Get the pork rinds and get some ribs as a second protein. Rodney Sauce will light you up, be careful. Home Team BBQ is also a great spot. Lewis BBQ is alright, but the other two are definitely another level better.

    It’s in the burbs here in Atlanta, but ‘Cue and Smokejack are pretty darn good. Smokejack has the only smoked wings I’ll eat besides Fox Bros. For some reason, most BBQ spots can’t smoke wings. I’ve tried them myself on the egg and tend to ruin them, my next attempt will be to sous vide first then finish with a smoke.

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  22. Got Cowdog

    I have to give a shout out to a local joint, “The Smokehouse” in Oakwood, GA. Serviceable Q in a pinch.
    And since we are free to go off topic/locality here; Hands down best pork ribs I’ve ever eaten? Dreamland in Florence, Alabama. The Dreamland joints in ATL and Tuscaloosa are not the same.

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    • ChiliDawg

      Dreamland struck me as the most overrated BBQ I’ve ever tasted. Dry, not good.

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      • Derek

        True dat. Archibald’s is the better choice in Tuscaloosa. Saw’s or Miss Myra’ is the better choice in Birmingham, but overall, Alabama bbq sucks. If you ain’t got stew it ain’t proper ‘cue! And BEEF ain’t barbecue!!

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        • ASEF

          Gibson’s in Decatur is very good. The man has won multiple Memphis in May competitions. He knows what he’s doing.

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          • Silver Creek Dawg

            I love Alabama white sauce. There, I said it…

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            • ugafidelis

              Second.

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              • Silver Creek Dawg

                Wife and I make our own and marinate boneless chicken thighs in it. Grill ’em up and they are awesome.

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            • Otto

              We stopped at Green Top BBQ in Dora, AL on the way to an Ole Miss Game. I thought it was pretty good, didn’t try the white sauce.

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            • Derek

              It is the highlight. Saw’s BBQ chicken with white sauce is wonderful. As far as Green Top noted below, yes that’s a good one. You have to take a detour now to get there now with I-22 opening.

              It isn’t that there are NO good BBQ places in Alabama its that there are far too few relative to Georgia. You can’t throw a rock in Georgia and not hit quality BBQ. For Alabama to be sitting between Atlanta and Memphis and be that weak on the ‘cue is just sad to me.

              Also the fact that almost no one has stew in Alabama is just unforgivable to me.

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      • ASEF

        Used to be awesome when it was one joint in T-town. And then it franchised. They depend completely on the sauce now.

        I smoke ribs myself on a BGE and use the sauce to finish. Throw in some Sunbeam white bread and a couple of bottles of beer – it’s a really nice way to watch some football on Saturdays.

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    • DoubleDawg1318

      The Duluth Dreamland is underwhelming and I have been multiple times

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      • Got Cowdog

        Dreamland is overrated, sure. But on my one visit to Florence 20 years ago we stopped at Dreamland and I had a religious experience with a plate of pork ribs that I have not been able to replicate since. I’ve searched from the Georgia coast to the Louisiana-Texas line, with frequent trips to Memphis and I still haven’t found it again.
        The closest I’ve come was a tiny stand on 80, right outside Wrens, GA on the way to Waynesboro. Those, while magical (smoked over oak pallets, no less) still didn’t quite touch my soul like my one night in Florence……

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  23. Brandon M

    Middle of nowhere in Pike County but The Oink Joint in Zebulon, GA is solid.

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  24. Smokey Joe

    “The Smokehouse” was much better when it was in the little shack with the screened in dining room 50′ away. Now that they have a fancy building with tables and bathrooms it has gone downhill. BBQ itself doesn’t have much flavor anymore.

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    • Got Cowdog

      Since I’m local and was craving Q (thank you GTP), I gave it a try today. You are correct and so was I: Serviceable in a pinch.

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  25. LakeOconeeDawg

    Middle ga area there are a few in close proximity. You have Holcombs in White Plains and Greensboro although the GB location is just reheated from the WP location. Ga Butts on the Parkway and Sissons Old South on Harmony in Eatonton. Personally, Sissons is in a league of its own compared to the others. Pulled Pork is to dye for. Brisket can be heavy on the seasonings sometimes. as for sides, the Mac and Cheese is fantastic. the stew is not what I call Brunswick Stew. More of a chunky soup. I watched my grand dad and his buddies watch over a many black pots of stew. Nothing, I mean nothing went into that pot unless it was ground.
    Nothing political in this post but I would imagine people would be just as passionate about their Brunswick Stew!

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    • RangerRuss

      I’ll vouch for Holcombs in White Plains. Damn good Q.

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    • TomReagan

      My vote in all of this goes to Holcomb’s in White Plains.

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    • Got Cowdog

      That’s a touchy subject LOD. My family Brunswick Stew recipe, without question the best ever concocted, is all ground. I made some and brought it to share at work, my one time good buddy and now random co worker called it “hash”. I was mortified,to say the least. Hash is something you make out of a can for breakfast, right?

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      • LakeOconeeDawg

        Agree GC. I’m guessing depending on where you were raised, everyone’s interpretation is different. My idea and recipe of what Brunswick Stew is, sounds alot like yours. I remember watching a show on GPB about where Brunswick Stew originated. Brunswick Ga and Brunswick Co. Virginia I believe are the two that fights over it. Neither of them though are really ground thus to me, they are not what I consider Brunswick Stew. I am sure others do.

        The stew at Holcombs mentioned above is pretty close. Maybe a little to thin but it is mostly ground.

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  26. dawgfan1995

    With all this talk about BBQ, I have a question for the commentariat:

    What’s the best fried catfish in Atlanta? I’ve seen some say Crawfish Shack on Buford Highway — and it’s very good — but I’d be interested in other options as well.

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  27. Russ

    Oh, and since the Pig Stand closed in Houston (reputed to be the original drive in restaurant), I just eat whatever. Brisket is okay (yeah, I’ve had good stuff and dry, crappy stuff) but I prefer my BBQ to be a pig. And that’s not as easy to find in Texas. There’s local spot down the street that has a nice chopped beef sandwich.

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    • 86 BONE

      Russ, the new Henderson & Kane General Store near me has recently opened and is serving, believe it or not, the absolute best brisket and smoked turkey that I have eaten in Texas!
      Close to Henderson Heights bar, just off Washington.
      Let me know what you think when you try it….order a pound of each for take home, you won’t be sorry!

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  28. DawgPhan

    I rarely eat BBQ out, but community Q is my go to for eating bbq out.

    All things considered it works for me. Easy to get to, easy parking, always consistently very good and you smell like bbq when you leave.

    Best at home cooking bbq is beef plate ribs. Brisket is great, but the richness and texture of beef ribs is where it is at.

    60 day aged wagyu briskets dont even compare to beef ribs for richness IMO.

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  29. I sometimes work near the Atlanta airport and like Pit Boss, a little shack BBQ joint near. The brisket is decent. Anyone else try it?

    I love Brunswick stew, but over here in Augusta we do hash, which you either love or hate. I go to Sconyers for their pulled pork and hash over rice; inevitable indigestion follows.

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    • DawgFlan

      I did a word search to make sure someone mentioned Sconyers. The hash over rice is… something weirdly craveable.

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      • Argondawg

        Good hash over rice is a helluva lot better than most Brunswick stew. My low country roots are showing.

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      • Growing up in August – I had a ton of that hash over rice. Everything else is pretty meh there.

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        • DawgFlan

          Same. And when you say “everything else is pretty meh there” I assume you are not only talking about Sconyers, but all of Augusta. 🙂 I kid, sort of. I tell people it’s a good place to be from.

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          • Yeah, Augusta is not much on good BBQ, which I have always found odd. I will say that Sconyers is unique and should be visited at least once by any lover/critic of Q. You either love it or you hate it, but it is different. My family loves it and we go often.

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            • Mayor

              Sconyers is a bit inconsistent also IMHO. Sometimes pretty good–other times not so much. As for Augusta as a place to live, like all towns there are good parts of town and not so good parts of town. I would argue that the nice parts of town are pretty damn nice–and in the spring you would be hard pressed to find any place more beautiful than the “Hill” section of Augusta, GA.

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            • Steve

              If you’re looking for barbecue in Augusta, head a bit south to Country Boy’s Cooking in Keysville, GA (home of former dawgs Marcus Washington and Cornelius Washington).

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            • WF Dawg

              Is Motts in Augusta still open? That’s where my wife’s family first introduced me to hash. Being from South GA, I had only had Brunswick Stew. Now I’ll defend both of those (hash + stew) to the death.

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    • DawgFlan

      Oh, and I mentioned Pit Boss above. Better option than most in the area, and cheap lunch specials. A winner for what it is.

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  30. 86 BONE

    I never hear any of you guys mention Hash…no real BBQ joint is hashless! I don’t mean Brunswick stew, or Frogmore Stew, or any stew for that matter.
    South Carolina joints, along with Sconyer’s in Augusta, make some damn good hash. Texans don’t know what hash is, therefore no BBQ joint out here is complete IMO.

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    • Gurkha Dawg

      Agree about hash. It’s definitely a GA, SC thing. Sconyer’s BBQ has gone way downhill IMO. Hash is still damn good.

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  31. illini84

    Try White Tiger when you come to Athens for a game. http://whitetigergourmet.com/

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    • stoopnagle

      Best burger in Athens.

      The pulled pork is pretty good too.

      How do you feel about PHBBQ?

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      • Steve

        Pulaski Heights is hands-down the best barbecue in Athens, since the Pork House guys on Baxter didn’t or couldn’t renew their lease a few years ago, but it is also outrageously priced in my opinion.

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        • Got Cowdog

          The pork house guys or at least one of them ended up opening the Butt-Hutt on the other side of town. They should get an honorable mention, and their beef ribs are really good. Worth the trouble if your’re in town.

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    • RangerRuss

      White Tiger is the bomb when I’m slumming “where they make it hard”. Saucehouse makes the best brisket I ever et.

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  32. 86 BONE

    A double secret spot in Lincolnton, GA, is very rarely ever mentioned in the BBQ lore conversations….it’s called Norman’s BBQ, and their slogan is…
    “Nobody Beats our Meat”. Best hash and chicken that have ever crossed my lips…period!

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  33. Otto

    Any recommendations for something close to I75 or I475 between Perry, and south of I285? I would love to try some new BBQ coming back from the beach.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      Fresh Air, Jackson – If you don’t mind the drive off I-75.

      It’s certainly not new.

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      • The one in Macon is fine, too, and it’s right off the interstate.

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        • Bulldog Joe

          True. They also have a drive-thru. Heresy, I know.

          But sometimes I just stop for a tub of stew to take back home.

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          • Otto

            We went to the one in Warner Robbins/Macon. I thought the pork was very dry. Chicken looked great. If I lived near it, I can see myself picking up a tub of their stew.

            In the South, I always try the pork first and might get a combo platter with ribs. In Texas I get Brisket and something else on the combo platter. If the area is known for ribs I would get the ribs.

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  34. Mark

    I have to add old Melears in Union City. Been closed since the 90s but was consistently good 30-40 years. Run by Dawg people with UGA stuff everywhere. Every New Year’s Day we’d have lunch there with my grandparents…except one..the 1/1/81 meal had to wait til about 4:30…there was other business early afternoon. That’s supper was as festive as a dry establishment full of Baptists could possibly be.

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  35. W Cobb Dawg

    Since we’re talking food I’ll throw Bell Street Burrito into the ring. Eat one of those burritos and you won’t need another meal for a couple days.

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    • That could be for more than one reason. 😉

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      And the gumbo at Henry’s in Acworth is first rate. Though I’m told the gumbo at the Gumbeaux’s in Douglasville might be better.

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    • David Chadwick

      I love Bell Street. It’s a stone-cold knockoff of Tortilla’s that was on Ponce. I started eating at Tortilla’s in ‘86 back when the business was small and they knew folks by name. Charlie and Grace Kerns, and Billy, were good people and made great Mission-style burritos. I’m glad Bell Street makes the tomatilla sauce. A taste of that time warps to the late ‘80’s.

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  36. Anyone who believes in QAnon is a fucking moron.

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    • ChiliDawg

      I read a tweet thread the other day where people were sharing screen caps of what some of those QAnon’ers were saying about how it had basically ruined their relationships with their families, and they were still persisting saying “they’ll see!” One woman was saying how her daughter broke down crying about how she felt like she was losing her mother, one person shared that they were about to get a divorce from their spouse over it, and all of them were angry at “the MSM” for causing it. None of them expressed the slightest bit of doubt that they were the problem.

      By the way, the conviction of Manafort and guilty plea by Cohen yesterday completely shattered the current QAnon narrative, but they’re already adapting the conspiracy.

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    • ChiliDawg

      And also on that note – I predicted to some friends a couple of months back that there were fewer than 100 days left in the Trump presidency and I’m starting to think I won’t be off by much. Only question is whether he resigns before he’s impeached.

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    • Ellis

      Do they make good ribs?

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  37. Truckin

    Smokehouse 107 is pretty good in Middle Georgia. It’s a fairly new place in Gray with damn good brisket. Don’t expect to order alcohol though.

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  38. jrod1229

    I live steps from Dixie Q and can unequivocally say it brings nothing to the table other than cold frosted glasses. While that is endearing in and of itself, it doesn’t belong on any list of Top BBQ places unless that list is reserved to Top BBQ places within 1 mile of the Brookhaven MARTA station.

    Heirloom tops in ATL, but that parking just ain’t worth it. Community and Das probably best in terms of ability to get a table and good food.

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  39. Thatguy

    Glad to see that someone else mentioned Holcomb’s in White Plains. Best stew I’ve ever shoveled into my gaping maw. Daddy D’z should be on the Atlanta list, if for nothing else, being in that neighborhood for however long. I desperately miss the old Spring House BBQ on Baxter in Athens, as well.

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  40. RangerRuss

    9mm pistols and soccer are Eurotrash commie plots with the ultimate goal being the pussification of The South.

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  41. Russ

    Senator, the irony seems to be that this will be the longest, yet most civil thread in a while. I guess we all CAN get along. It just took BBQ to do it.

    God bless us, every one!

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  42. Dawgonetired

    Not enough people say this, “Senator, thank you for your efforts.”

    You put a hella lot of work into this, and make my surfing that much easier.

    Thanks again.

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  43. Those with experience buying away game tickets, I’m looking to buy tix to the the LSU game. What’s the sweet spot for pricing and availability? Better to buy now or wait to see if LSU drops a game before hand and reduces home team demand? Stub hub? Craigslist? Walk me through this.

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    • Russ

      Unless LSU completely implodes, I don’t see demand dropping for that game. If you see ’em, buy ’em.

      LSU is a fun trip. Fans are great before the game. After the game (especially a night game), it can be a little dicey if the Dawgs win. If they win, everyone is your buddy. Lots of good tailgating food and they’re always willing to share.

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      • The Truth

        Win or lose, if you can’t make your way to or from an LSU game and pick up a great bowl of gumbo at somebody’s tailgate, you are the biggest introvert or prick on the planet.

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  44. Hogbody Spradlin

    Anybody remember Walter & Ralph’s on West Broad? The sign said “Pit Cook” with the ‘ed’ squeezed in at the end. I also used to drive out to Peanut’s, just past the old HWY 78 turn off. I asked for slaw on a sandwich and he looked at me like it was sacrilege. There was also a really out of the way place sort of north of Athens that had goat BBQ. An, uh, acquired taste.

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  45. Tommy

    Das is run by some friends of mine, who come out here to Austin fairly frequently to learn from local masters like Aaron Franklin. The thing to understand about Texas ‘cue is the focus is as much on the wood as it is on the meat (and sauce is usually optional or not even served, as Texans will tell you their meat has nothing to hide). Post oak is the standard here in Central Texas and it’s central to the flavor. If you like bourbon or malbec, you get why this is important.

    Point being, the Das guys get it when it comes to wood. They can talk at length about the wood used, how/where it’s sourced and aged, etc.

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  46. Jared S.

    210 replies and no discussion about Trump or Richt. What on earth. This was billed as a repository for foolishness but instead turned into a great discussion on BBQ. I’m incensed! Where’s the foolishness you promised, Senator????

    FAKE BLOG

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  47. Derek

    Ok, that’s enough niceties. Fuck this Kumbaya bullshit. We had a half a day of that. Everyone knows what this place was built for and I don’t like to disappoint. So here goes:

    Trump: Impeachment, prison and/or execution for treason? Discuss. BTW: if you have a 4th option, well, then you’re probably painfully stupid.

    And we’re off!

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    • Haven’t heard of this Kumbaya place before. Does it specialize in pork, or brisket?

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    • ChiliDawg

      I tried getting it started awhile ago but you fuckers are all too focused on your stomachs.

      I’ll take impeachment and imprisonment because I think life without twitter would be worse for him than death, but I could be talked into execution.

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      • Derek

        They may just feel very defeated. Lost. As if everything they were warned about has come true: they really did make a stupid and irrational choice.

        Its not silence, its shame.

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        • Napoleon BonerFart

          Maybe it’s boredom. A rich guy not paying taxes isn’t exactly earth shattering. And many believe that Cohen didn’t even commit a crime. So it’s hard to see how his guilty plea blows up on Trump. Mueller probably needs Trump under oath to try to create the crime of lying to investigators. But that’s unlikely. And of course, none of it has anything to do with Russia.

          So I’ll let you get back to your circle jerk about how the noose is tightening around Trump’s neck.

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          • ChiliDawg

            Many believe that Cohen didn’t even commit a crime

            Fortunately the law does not hinge on what “many believe.” The FACTS are the Cohen plead guilty to a federal crime, and he stated under oath that Trump directed him to do it. If you can’t see how that blows up on Trump, it’s because your head is up your ass.

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            • Napoleon BonerFart

              A guilty plea isn’t adjudication. The tax evasion was probably criminal. Paying off bimbos probably isn’t. But I’m not deranged over Trump.

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              • Derek

                Under what conditions can a federal judge accept a guilty plea moron?

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  You going to start citing guilty pleas as precedence? Can we now establish that paying off bimbos is illegal because Cohen decided he didn’t want to spend years fighting against a politically motivated prosecutor with no limitations? You’re going to have to repeat middle school civics.

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                • ChiliDawg

                  Ah, ok, so Michael Cohen pled guilty to crimes that will send him to prison for 5 years because he didn’t want the hassle of fighting it in court?

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                • Derek

                  Of course you don’t know. Because you’re painfully dumb. All pleas in federal court must state a factual and legal basis that evidence exists of each and every element of the stated federal crime moron.

                  A court can not accept a guilty plea to something that is NOT A FEDERAL CRIME dumbass.

                  The federal judge accepted the plea because: money in excess of that permitted by federal statutes was contributed to a federal campaign at the direction of the candidate for the benefit of the campaign you idiot.

                  The judge had full opportunity to say: “these facts do not fit the elements of this federal statute” you brainless jackass.

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  And those facts must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, right? No. They can just stipulate the matter and agree not to pursue it any further.

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              • ChiliDawg

                I like how you’re sitting here offering on your opinion on what is and probably isn’t illegal as if it’s a matter of debate and not a matter already settled in court. That’s cute.

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  Not as cute as your belief that a deal between a prosecutor and his target is simply statement of facts that can’t be disputed or even questioned.

                  You don’t think that Cohen shortening his possible sentence on tax evasion by up to 60 years is sufficient incentive to plead guilty to something he didn’t do, or something that wasn’t criminal? Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him plead to the JFK assassination.

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                • Derek

                  The credibility of Trump’s fixer is a separate question, you idiot.

                  Is he saying he broke the law under oath because he just chose lying as more beneficial to trying the case? Unlikely, but possible.

                  He did admit to breaking the law and the judge could not accept the plea without that, you fucktard.

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  It’s just adorable when you can’t argue facts, so you have to resort to name calling. It cracks me up every time.

                  I’ll let you go now because I know the short bus leaves school first. Make sure you’re on it.

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                • ChiliDawg

                  That “deal between a prosecutor and his target” is not only a statement of fact, it’s a statement of guilt under the law. The judge would not have accepted a plea if there were not a crime. DOJ and Cohen’s lawyers agreed.

                  I see where you’re getting your cues from though…

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  “I see where you’re getting your cues from though…”

                  Likewise.

                  https://www.innocenceproject.org/when-the-innocent-plead-guilty/
                  https://www.rd.com/culture/why-the-innocent-plead-guilty/
                  “As many as 160,000 people behind bars may have admitted to crimes they didn’t commit.”

                  Now, those are cases where the accused didn’t commit any of the crimes they plead to. Cohen may be a case where he pleads to crimes he committed, as well as those he didn’t. Again, what does he care if he benefits from the deal?

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                • ChiliDawg

                  I am quite enjoying watching the contortions you fools are putting yourselves through to spin this.

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                • Derek

                  In fairness, its a single fool.

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          • Derek

            You’re not alone in your insane stupidity. You have friends in the tin foil hat subcuulture:

            “ALEX JONES: But, they want prosecutions of Trump legally taking care of women that thought he was going to marry them. Here’s a couple hundred thousand dollars. “Oh, he treated me really nice. Oh, he was super nice, he dated me in between marriages.” That’s the big dirty thing when Trump never said he wasn’t a ladies man, OK? I think the crime is that he’s heterosexual, I guess, with the media. So think about that. There’s not a thousand raped kids by Trump. There’s not one. There’s not one. And that’s what this comes down to is the insanity of the Hollywood pedophile rings and the sex cults and Nxivm and everything Roger Stone and others have exposed and now we’re here looking at this in its eyeballs and we’re hearing that, “Oh my God his lawyer is going to flip on him.” If his lawyer had a taxi cab company that might not have paid taxes. What the hell does that have to do with the frickin’ Russians, man?”

            It IS the insanity of the Hollywood pedophile rings boner.

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            • Napoleon BonerFart

              So, if somebody thinks Trump paying off bimbos isn’t evidence of Russian collusion, they must believe in Hollywood pedophile rings? This is your evidence of stupidity on the OTHER SIDE of your argument? Hilarious.

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  48. jhorne2000

    I made a sandwich last night according to Richt specs. In my mind I was eating a Georgia Way sandwich.

    Senator, is there any way the sandwich specs are included anywhere in the super secret Georgia Way bylaws?

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  49. If you’re a fan of Deadwood, this tweet is positively erotic.

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    • Hogbody Spradlin

      Deadwood was okay, but want more Raylan!

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    • Argondawg

      My god! The dialogue in Deadwood was phenomenal. Of course every other words was an F bomb but they still made the rest of it almost seem poetic. The prose was absolutely insane and hilarious. I miss the hell out of that show.

      “Pain or damage don’t end the world. Or despair or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you’re dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man… and give some back.” – Al Swearengen

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  50. Corch Irvin Meyers New WR Corch

    Anyone else feel like the new media (mostly website critics and bloggers who never went to j-school) push certain stars, comics, films, or TV shows on us because of their own ideological reasons and not because the stars, comics, films, or TV shows are actually good? You go to Uproxx, Collider, or any of the pop culture sites and they’re rife with that kind of crap. There are starting to be huge disparities between what critics like and what audiences like on Rotten Tomatoes. It’s like they’re REALLY invested in making sure shows or movies that match their ideology or made by people in that bent succeed. Like with Paul Fieg’s terrible Ghostbusters Reboot.

    Like, what’s the deal with Melissa McCarthy? It may be taboo to say this “in today’s society,” but I just don’t really find her funny. It’s not a woman thing, as Tina Fey is on my Comedic Mount Rushmore, but with McCarthy… I think she was gross in Bridesmades, The Heat was stupid, and the Ghostbusters Reboot was terrible no matter what the progressives critics try to tell you. I dunno. I just don’t get why people thinks she’s funny. Then again, it’s been about 10 years since Adam Sandler made a good movie, yet Netflix gave him a ton of money to make 6 terrible Netflix films. So what do I know?

    Then again, regarding McCarthy, I’m all-in on The Happytime Murders because it’s a high concept film (puppets are real and live among us) that looks to be absolutely filthy in all the best National Lampoon-type ways, that is not a star vehicle for her, so I’m thinking because it’s not about her she’ll be okay.

    Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has noticed how pop culture is being presented to us in the last 10 years or so… this kind of overt politicization of pop culture. You know, kind of how like this overt politicization is now trying to invade sports. And it’s always funny how the invasion always seems to favor one side of the ideological spectrum, isn’t it? Weird how that goes.

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    • Derek

      You didn’t give one example of “overt-politicization of pop culture.”

      Compare today’s Hollywood movies to Elia Kazan’s and get back to me.

      To me pop culture isn’t political, its just devoid of any substance at all. Its feeding cheap BS to stupid people to maximize profit. No one much seems to care about art or saying much of anything important.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers New WR Corch

        I did give one. The critics pushing a crap movie like the Ghostbusters Reboot because to them, it was ideologically significant, when it was an objectively moediocre or even bad film.

        Here are some more:

        Insatiable, a TV Show on Netflix, has been lambasted by online critics and bloggers as “fat shaming and homophobic,” with many of the articles and columns using all the same talking points verbatim in a very JournoList kinda way, while regular viewers like the show at an 80%-plus clip on Rotten Tomatoes. I watched it last weekend because I was bored. It was pretty good.

        Critics and bloggers blowing sunshine up Black Panther’s rear end and not mentioning any issues with the film at all, when it’s basically just a normal, formulaic Marvel film like Dr. Strange. Yes, it was a good movie. And I can especially understand why black audiences flocked to see it and made it a HUGE box office hit, but it wasn’t anything special. Yet we were constantly told in loving terms that it was. Because to them it is ideologically significant.

        The Oscars have suffered most in this thinking as smaller and culturally insignificant films that no one have seen are winning all of the awards because they are ideologically significant to certain people, while bigger, more popular films that are also excellent are ignored. Think of any film Christopher Nolan has directed, for example. Any of his films since The Dark Knight could’ve won best picture, as Titanic did, as The Return of the King did, but they didn’t and now The Oscars are instituting a ridiculous award for Popular Film instead of just rewarding the best film of the year that people actually saw.

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        • Derek

          So you’re saying that they are pushing women as stars in movies for political and not financial reasons?

          Seems both sexist, illogical and overly cynical for all the wrong reasons.

          Hollywood responds to money, period. They have neither the time nor the inclination for social commentary, unless there’s money in it.

          Have you considered the possibility that other people find Melisa McCarthy funny? St. Vincent was a great movie. Kirsten Wiig cracks me the fuck up.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers New WR Corch

            See what happens here: I never once said I didn’t find women funny. Why would your mind go there?

            Tina Fey is on my Mount Rushmore of Comedy. You’re correct, Kristin Wiig is hilarious.

            Try barking up another tree, because that dog don’t hunt, Derek. 😉

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            • Derek

              Well maybe I’m dumb. I don’t get what you’re saying. At all.

              Why is Melissa’s presence in movies political much less overly so?

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        • Derek

          I’d also note that the Oscars are a double edged sword.

          Denzel’s performance in Malcolm X was incredible.

          His performance in Training Day wasn’t nearly as good.

          There is no doubt that the movie artists: writers, directors, actors are typically lefties. However, the movie makers: studio owners and producers and financeers aren’t necessarily so and they are more interested in a ROI than anything else.

          Didn’t Steve Bannon live in that world for awhile?

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    • Russ

      Meh, I think Melissa McCarthy is hilarious, in a Chris Farley way. But then, I like stupid humor. I thought the Ghostbusters remake was fine. Kate Mackinnon was the funniest one, though. I didn’t give a FRA that it was all female leads. I just thought it was funny.

      Yeah, occasionally I’ll get triggered (I’m an older white man, so yeah), but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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      • Russ

        Although I do say, as a huge Marvel fan, that I got tired of all the hoopla over Black Panther. I enjoy all the Marvel movies and Black Panther was as good as many of them. I also get that it was significant to have an African superhero. But, as Kareem Abdul Jabbar said about the premier, when the audience gives it a standing ovation BEFORE the movie even starts, that’s a big much. Luckily, I still enjoyed the movie and liked how it fit into the larger MCU.

        One area like this that’s bugged me recently is “Marketplace” on NPR. I know that nobody is as impressed with Kai Rysdahl (the host) as he is with himself, but last week I just about had enough. This is a business show, yet every day, he had some piece that seemed styled to show us how “woke” he is, and another reason why I should be ashamed of something white males have done to somebody somewhere. I get it. Some people suck. But not everyone. And a fucking 30 minute radio show on business and economics isn’t going to change the world. Shut up and tell me how Tesla is going to crank up production, or how Walmart is trying to keep up with Amazon. Just bring back David Brancaccio.

        Okay, I feel better now.

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  51. Normaltown Mike

    Does anybody recall a Pate’s BBQ down in South GA…maybe off I-95 near Darien or Midway?

    My pop was of the “I’ll try anything once” BBQ philosophy and I recall going in the 80’s and dad ate 4 sandwiches b/c the rest of the fam found it bowel stewing inedible.

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  52. Will Trane

    Best Brunswick Stew in Georgia.
    The Chick in Cairo.
    Nobody is even close to them.

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  53. 209

    Poss’s BBQ
    Atlanta Hwy.
    Athens, Ga.
    Mr. Poss did not charge football players.. Really great..
    Someone gave raves to
    The Swamp Quinea.. Great place..
    same pricing policy as Poss’s. Great place
    Re: Leonard Losers .. Mr. Postero would come in the dressing room at the
    old Coliseum at least once week and just shoot the shit. The man in person
    was exactly what you got on the radio.
    If you don’t agree with me that’s OK. I just had a senior flash bad..

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  54. I Love The Fuckin' Eagles Man

    And Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975 just became the best selling album of all time!

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  55. ugafidelis

    Anybody got a good spicy boiled peanuts recipe? I’ve got a bunch to boil and I want to try some spicy.

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    • Russ

      First of all, you have to spell it correctly. It’s “boilt p-nuts”. At least that’s how they spell at all the roadside fire-in-a-barrel places where I buy mine.

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      • ugafidelis

        Haha right?

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      • Got Cowdog

        1/2 cup salt to 1/2 gallon water. Fill your crock pot with peanuts and cover with salted water. Add crushed red pepper to taste ( 1tbsp to 1/4 cup) cook on high 2-3 hrs, then go to low, let them go until they are to your liking, for me 12-18 hours. I start them of an evening and they are ready when I get home the next day.
        Easy-peasy.

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  56. W Cobb Dawg

    Um, if we’re gonna discuss BBQ at length, shouldn’t we re-name it ‘the pigpen’?

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  57. Dawg Vegas

    Okay. I’m very late to the party because work kicked my ass today.

    Spotted Pig just across the Ga-Sc line. On the way to Seneca. Outstanding.

    Grand Champion in East Cobb. Great ribs and stew.

    Fuck Williamson Bros. Ugh. Can’t believe they are still operating.

    Sam’s BBQ1. Haven’t yet been to the Marietta location, just E Cobb original.

    Local Q is pretty good too.

    I read A Staples mention a place downtown ATL. that has burnt ends. I can’t remember the name though, dammit

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