I’ve actually been saving this for a few days in anticipation of this week’s Playpen:
Jerry Falwell, Jr., the president of Liberty University and a close ally of President Trump, told USA TODAY Sports in a phone conversation Friday that Nike’s ad campaign centered around Colin Kaepernick might cause the school to re-consider its relationship with the apparel company, which signed a contract last year to outfit Liberty’s athletic teams through 2024.
“We’re exploring the situation,” Falwell said. “If Nike really does believe that law enforcement in this country is unfair and biased, I think we will look around. If we have a contract, we’ll honor it, but we strongly support law enforcement and strongly support our military and veterans who died to protect our freedoms and if the company really believes what Colin Kaepernick believes, it’s going to be hard for us to keep doing business with them.
“But if it’s just a publicity stunt to bring attention to Nike or whatever, that’s different. We understand that. We understand how marketing works. But they’re going to have to convince us that they’re not proactively attacking law enforcement officers and our military. If that’s the reason behind using this ad, we’re going to have a hard time staying.”
Says the guy who currently employs the former AD at Baylor.
If I’m parsing this correctly, Falwell appears to be saying he’s totally cool with Nike if it turns out this is nothing more than a cynical marketing ploy, but if he determines there’s a shred of sincerity behind promoting Kaepernick, that’s a bridge too far for him. Maybe.
Jeez, could he be a bigger wanker if he tried?
The comments are yours, peeps.
Get The Picture 
Yeah I’d say his reasoning isn’t sound. Either your support the ideology of Kaepernick or not. Speaking of which, what exactly did Kaepernick sacrifice again? Oh yeah, a big ole plate of nothing…
LikeLiked by 1 person
The ‘sacrifice everything’ comment just jumps right out at you. I don’t believe Colin nor Nike understand the definition of sacrifice. If anyone is sacrificing, it’s many of the people they protest against. I don’t know where these people live but it must be horrible with all the biased treatment of sweet innocent people. They should move here, were I live. We don’t see the treatment of minorities that they protest. If anything, the minorities here need saving from themselves. The crimes that the minorities commit against each other here are out of control. And since whites are not involved, they get no help from the Reverend. Many of the minorities in my circle of friends, are sick of the smoke screen and want help where they really need it…right in their own back yards. The ladies in my employment come to work with a new story of shootings, break-ins, abuse and drug activity almost weekly. They fear their own people.
LikeLike
Kaboom!
LikeLike
I guess Colin should thank President Trump for improving the economy so much that even CK could find a good paying job.
LikeLiked by 2 people
I’m just glad that unemployment isn’t 40% anymore and that people on the right all of a sudden think the government can accurately report unemployment statistics.
I would also point out that the last time you dumb fuckers were in charge you cut taxes, overspent, the economy went fine for awhile and then all of a sudden it was 1929….again. Oh and you stupid fuckers were in charge of that catstrophuck too.
All that’s to say, you can go on sucking on each other’s cock for the temporary results of your stimulus and profligate spending but deficits are heading way north again. There will be a reckoning. The right will invariably fuck it up. They always have.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Classy. You should probably up the dose on your meds, sparky. I can barely hear you over the sound of winning. I appreciate your reasoned, thoughtful response to a mild joke, though. I’m totally convinced now that you are correct. Bless your heart.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Derek, you are not a dumb guy. But, your arguments sound dumb with all the unnecessary name calling.
Has anyone called you a name this morning where you feel compelled to call an entire group cocksuckers? Drowns out what you are trying to say.
LikeLike
You’re welcome to. I gave up trying to convince stupid fuckers of anything. You can’t fix stupid. I’m not trying to persuade people dumb enough to vote for a guy who, among a million other things, questioned the heroism of POWs. Why even try? I could get farther teaching a fucking cat calculus.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Derek, I’m sure that feels better now, releasing the Kracken like that. Rock on, my friend, rock on.
LikeLike
You think Derek’s not dumb? Based on what? His logical fallacies? His childish tantrums attacking everyone to the right of Mao? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, …
LikeLike
Don’t feed the troll folks. What y’all need to realize is Derek and Chili are just Chinese bots programmed to screw with college football fans that mention things considered “conservative”.
LikeLike
Only when we’re not planning false flags and running child sex trafficking rings out of pizza parlors. That’s the day job.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Dude those are probably the mildest theories coming out of 8chan these days. I get excoriated frequently by friends that are deep into the Q stuff because I’m “not doing my part”
LikeLike
I’m sure it gets worse. When you’ve lost the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections and you’re facing the headwinds of changing demographics, every tin foil hat matters.
That to me is the saddest part of 2016. I thought we’d reached a tipping point where the GOP was finally going to have to compete for non-white votes to be relevant. Instead they found a path by adding a few skinheads and their sympathizers.
LikeLike
Isn’t losing the popular vote in a presidential election like losing the time of possession in a football game? An interesting statistic that means zero, because that isn’t how we keep score. I’m sure it means I’m a skinhead for reading the Constitution, but you’re winning me over with your nuance. Bless your heart.
LikeLike
Fucking stupid will of the American people. You’re right not to give a fuck.
LikeLike
…the idea that the popular vote would be exactly the same if the election were decided that way is ignorance at its best.
In short…behavioral economics. People in red states or blue states who have no reason to go to the polls because the outcome is basically predetermined would more than likely be incentivized to show up. Look at the lower turnout states in 2016…Hawaii and Utah are at the bottom. Basically foregone conclusions…and no one bothered to show up because of it.
Where it gets interesting is Texas, New York, and California…all below the national average. I can only speculate, but I would assume that switching to a popular vote would potentially bring a large number of people in those states to the polls that feel disenfranchised otherwise.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Irwin, your logic is way too complex for Derek. But you are absolutely correct.
LikeLike
Red states tend to have lower populations. If a national popular vote came to be all things being equal, I don’t see how that would favor the GOP. Other than Trump, who called the electoral college a disaster in 2012, no one on the right wants a national popular vote. Just the margins in CA and NY eliminate several red states.
LikeLike
I’m not trying to prognosticate who would win…only point out the conclusion that you yourself make… prognostication would be necessary because it would be a different election.
So knowing that…when you call out the popular vote and describe it as the ‘will of the people,’ you’re just being intellectually dishonest.
[BTW…you’re whole ‘the GOP would never want a popular vote’ is a fine take…but only if you throw in the fact that the Dems, despite the talk, wouldn’t want one either…the only way to open the door to a legitimate threat of a third party challenge to the presidency is to move to a popular vote and neither party wants that]
LikeLike
The vote totals are the will of the people willing to get off their asses and vote. Happy?
LikeLike
You’re still incorrect. It’s the tally of the people willing to go vote under the current electoral college system. If we had a different system, candidates would run different campaigns and different people would vote.
LikeLike
So….to sum up: when Derek’s side loses, STUPID AMERICAN PEOPLE. I guess what we need is a system of government where the benevolent ruling class looks out for the vast, stupid majority. Have they tried such a system anywhere that you can recall? The USSR? North Korea? Venezuela? Stop me when I get to one where it worked.
LikeLike
I merely stated as fact that more people voted for the D than the R in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections. Just a fact. I know they hurt. Have mommy kiss it.
LikeLike
To quote one of your heroes, “What difference, at this point, does it make?!?!”
LikeLike
Oh, Derek, Derek, Derek. It is a fact. Facts don’t hurt. It’s about as relevant a fact as “water freezes at 32 degrees F” or “Jefferson City is the capitol of Missouri, but, FACTS!!!!!!!
here’s a fact for you: Donald Trump is your duly elected president!!!!!! Enjoy the next 2 to 6 years! How you like THEM apples????
LikeLike
I’m significantly less excited about it than Putin.
LikeLike
Thankfully the founding fathers foresaw the douchebaggery that you like to pimp Derek.
LikeLike
“The Electoral College is different. I would rather have the popular vote because it’s, to me, it’s much easier to win the popular vote.”
Trump 4/26/18
I haven’t advocated a change.
Also: “The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.”
Trump Nov. 2012
Sorry stupid.
LikeLike
LikeLike
so….Trump didn’t like the rules, but played by the rules as they exist in the Constitution, and won. Yet, HE’S the stupid one????? Uh, Derek…..you know those two things aren’t mutually exclusive, n’est pas?
LikeLike
Why yes he’s stupid. He can’t spell counsel. Pretty low bar.
LikeLike
I wonder if he knows how many states there are? Does he need 12 teleprompters? Genius.
LikeLike
Derek you act like the Dems are a better solution and they’re not. There’s not a handful of motherfuckers in the whole government that give a damn about anything besides money and power.
LikeLike
I get so tired of this kind of false equivalency. The major pieces of legislation that the Dems passed when they had full control of the government after the crash were 1) a stimulus (that was actually needed because the economy was shedding 500K jobs a month when Obama took office) and 2) an expansion of healthcare coverage to 20 million people. While many of us wish they had done more (like pursue single payer health care and break up the banks), these were good faith efforts to improve the lives of Americans. Also, the ACA was self funded through tax increases on the richest Americans
Since the Republicans took office, they have past a massive corporate tax give away which damages the governments ability to fund critical infrastructure investments and social safety next and attempted to remove health care from those 20 million people. Not to mention their assaults on environmental regulations which we are seeing the complete necessity for with the recent storms and algae plumes in FL.
The democrats are certainly less than ideal and have been corrupted in many ways by the legalized bribery that our campaign finance system requires to run elections, but in general they attempt to act in good faith within the confines of a broken system. The Republicans are the party of the plutocrats who are attempting to knee cap the government and loot the treasury all in the name of greed.
LikeLiked by 4 people
Just mock them. You’d be better off explaining quantum mechanics to a hamster than treating wingers as sentient beings. Waste of time.
LikeLike
While I would likely agree with most of your positions and understand your frustrations given the numerous crisis we face, I don’t think your rants are particularly helpful or constructive and in fact just cause people to further dig in their heels. If Democrats refocus on economic issues which address the real issue – the class war that the Republicans are waging against everyone not in the 1% – they can win back many working and middle class voters.
LikeLike
You tell them, sparky! Why don’t you suggest telling him to claim their mothers smell of elderberries? That will show them!
LikeLike
Save it sport, I don’t give a fuck why you believe Democrats are the true answer to what ails America. I’m sure some GOP fanboy can rattle off statistics as to why Democrats are the devil too.
LikeLike
I’m sorry. I thought discussion was the whole point of this thread. Also, I’m sure that a “GOP fanboy” would fail to provide any examples that are actually supported by economic realities or science.
LikeLiked by 1 person
It is, but I’m just trying to save you some time on trying to win me over to your team, or whatever the heck it is you think you’re accomplishing by expounding the virtues of your political ideology. Ya see, my comments are just me ribbing Derek, and trying to rile him up, because when he get’s going it’s funny.
LikeLike
My apologies for taking you for someone who might be interested in an open debate of the issues. Won’t make the same mistake again.
LikeLike
It’s ok fella I won’t hold it against you.
LikeLike
You sound mad.
LikeLike
Trump did say some people would get tired of all the winning, and I didn’t believe him. Thank you for proving his point.
LikeLike
I don’t think winning means what you think it means – unless your a billionaire.
LikeLike
I wouldn’t call Obama’s stimulus successful when it (perhaps) led to the weakest recovery in history and the unemployment rate quickly shot through the ceiling of what was promised if we passed stimulus.
Second, it’s disingenuous to criticize Republicans for tax cuts (which simply allow people to keep their own money) as costing money, while praising Democrats for entitlement programs (paid for by seizing money from people through taxes) as saving money. That’s only true if you assume that the government is entitled to everything and allowing people to keep their own stuff is somehow overly generous of politicians. Also, Obamacare was only paid for by using accounting gimmicks and unrealistic assumptions. More recent and realistic estimates show, unsurprisingly, that entitlements are expensive. And not only is Obamacare expensive for taxpayers directly, it’s expensive in indirect costs by raising private insurance premiums significantly.
I agree that Democrats are much better than Republicans in PR. They claim to be all about the poor. It’s only when the numbers are dispassionately examined that one can see that it’s bullshit.
LikeLike
Hey! Someone else gets it…I think, lol. Yes, Derek is a troll of some sort. He sure just jumped right in this morning to get things rolling, didn’t he? Anyway, it is the only logical explanation for his extreme bipolar behavior here. One minute he is breaking down film tape, the next he is cursing everybody out. He also makes a seven figure salary and has been to every big game going back to the early eighties. I don’t know about you, but I think a person would have a better chance finding a unicorn than a old, rich, extreme liberal who loves football and has time to post on a blog all day……wait.
LikeLike
Don’t forget that he’s married to Morgan Fairchild.
LikeLike
Language like that shows a lack of reasoning skills. I would guess you argue at a middle school level.
LikeLike
It may be that you’re fucking stupid.
https://nypost.com/2017/08/28/smarter-people-are-more-likely-to-use-curse-words/
LikeLiked by 1 person
It says smarter people are more likely to curse, not cursing people are more likely to be smart. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc, amigo. Nice try, though. Let me know when you find a study says people who engage in childish name calling are more likely to be smart… you still have the same logical fallacy, but it should keep you busy for a while.
LikeLike
Thanks 81. You’ve saved me a lot of time this morning responding to Derek. Keep up the good work.
LikeLike
Thank you both.. and to all the others who combat his (and ChiliShits) vitriolic and bigoted comments. They are cancers, and if allowed to “spread” (i.e. continue to shitpost their opinion on non-sports issues, mainly politics) their cancer on the other posts, it would drive off many more possible commenters, only to he replaced with more like them, who just want to point fingers, call names, and argue. Confining the both of their drivel to here, was a very tactical move by the Senator.
LikeLike
Can’t we stop the racism? Cant we talk about fine Nazis and Mexican rapists or crying brown children snatched from their moms? Let’s move past the intolerance and indifference and hate.
LikeLike
And get on to the fact that per the Washington Post Trump is complicit with whatever damage is caused by hurricane Florence. And I am supposed to have an intellectual conversation with people like you. You are a fucking advocate for the hurricane. Go away.
LikeLike
At least your president doesn’t call people names. Clearly you’d be offended if it were to ever happen.
LikeLike
I think this is a debate technique called “deflecting.” So, it’s ok if you show poor manners because some other person not a party to the discussion showed poor manners somewhere else, talking about someone else. I thought you said you were smart. How disappointing. I’m trying to help raise the level of discourse, and all you do is pitch a hissy fit. Bless your heart.
LikeLike
Since implication is clearly wasted: You’re a stupid fucking hypocrite.
LikeLike
I get the impression you’re trying to say something, Derek, but what? Quit beating around the bush, my friend. It’s almost like you have decided to take a hostile tone in this discussion. Of course, when all one has to contribute is angry polemics, I guess it comes out hostile. I love you, man! If it wasn’t for deep thinkers like you, people like me would have no one to win against. Thanks for playing!!!!
LikeLike
Mark Twain said it best, “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
LikeLike
Why shouldn’t he? He’s educated at a middle school level.
LikeLike
Are we going to allow comments like this here?
LikeLike
Quit bitching about debt. Saint Obama’s fiscal restraint added $9 trillion to the national debt. And now that a Republican is in office, you think it’s suddenly an issue? Fuck off.
LikeLike
People were dying well before 1939 and all of a sudden Hitlers the bad guy?
LikeLike
People were dying well before 1939 and all of a sudden Hitlers the bad guy?
LikeLike
So now you are defending Hitler! Twice! You left wing extremists are more fucked up than I thought.
LikeLike
If only Hitler were a Democrat. Then, we could see Derek arguing in favor of the Holocaust.
LikeLike
Shhhhh. If you keep confusing him with facts and numbers, he’s just gonna get angrier. Why cant you just acknowledge his superior intellect and debating skills? WHYYYYYYY? HE KNOWS WHAT’S BEST FOR US IGNORANT SAVAGESSSSSSSSSS!
this is gonna turn out just like when I asked him about Nike’s slave wages in Asia. You’d think that would be a bad thing, but noooooooooooooooooooo…….
LikeLike
Is it ok to despise all three, (Kap, Nike, and Liberty dude)?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Testify!
LikeLike
LikeLike
Just checked the schedules, if Florence interrupts our game this weekend, there is no alternative for rescheduling. The bye weeks don’t overlap.
Keep watching the weather, folks. The forecast for northeast Georgia isn’t looking good for this weekend.
LikeLike
Guess they would not try to move MTSU to MBS?
LikeLike
I guess they could, but the Falcons play the early game on Sunday.
LikeLike
I was wondering about that. Think they’d make it an early kick instead of evening? 6+ hours may make a difference.
LikeLike
The question is whether the state would want the traffic on all of the roads heading into Athens. If the path brings the storm into NE Georgia, I don’t see any way that a football game on Saturday is going to be conducive for public safety.
LikeLike
Well, if anybody knows about stunting in public for attention it would be a Preacher on TV, preying on emotions and whatnot being their MO. Why wouldn’t Falwell be cool with that? Hell, people are sheep with wallets to advertisers and Preachers anyway. Except for the cops, of course. They’re the good guys. And the military. Don’t want to piss that bunch off and get your compound raided.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I really don’t get why Kap kneeling was ever a big deal. I understand why people on both sides ACT like it is a big deal —- using it as a totem for something real —- but any time people talk about this in real life (representing either pro or against sides) I just walk away.
LikeLike
I think the problem is hypocrisy. There is a large swath of liberals that believe that how the person interprets language, symbols, etc. a.k.a. how it makes that person ‘feel’ is how the expression should be judged…except when it is kneeling in front of the flag. At that point, we should look at what the person is trying to say and his/her intent. There is also a large swath of conservatives who think that the PC police is a bunch of garbage…until someone does something that is non PC related to Merica.
There is a highway 8 lanes wide where a large majority of Americans (white, black, police, military) could have a reasonable discussion about state power and how it is used against minorities and low income citizens. The problem is that the loud voices are driving on the shoulders in Mad Max like vehicles and that stuff gets better ratings for what passes as ‘journalism’ these days and pulls more people to polls in primary elections.
LikeLike
Nike sales were up 31% last week and the stock is back up over where it was before they started the ad campaign. Someone tell Clay Travis.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes, thank goodness SJWs are rushing to support a company that pays slave wages in Asia to make their product. The Vietnamese kid who gets 20 cents an hour to make Jordans appreciates that all of you are down with his struggle.
LikeLiked by 1 person
When did wingers decide they gave a fuck about fair wages and working conditions? I thought it was all supposed to be about earnings for shareholders? What happened? You found out a corporation could be both greedy and disagreeable? WTF? Has it short circuited the wiring?
LikeLiked by 2 people
Derek, I really don’t want to fight with you and get called names, but let me turn your question around. Let’s stipulate that wingers haven’t proven they care about fair wages and working conditions in the past, BUT YOUR SIDE HAS ALWAYS CARRIED THAT FLAG. All of a sudden, you’re willing to look past all that because one of your new icons is that corporation’s spokesman? Doesn’t that make you at least as cynical as the wingers?
LikeLike
First, I’m not praising Colin much less Nike. I thought Jim Brown was right. Good idea, terrible execution.
Second, while I support fair wages and safe working conditions at home, I don’t think:
that can be enforced in the Phillipines for example
that cheap shoes, and other products, are good for the economy here at home
I’m a free trader and an anti-protectionist and a free market capitalist.
The best way IMHO to promote American values abroad is to have free trade. While we should have some minimum standards: slave labor for example is way too low, $7.50 minimum wage is too high, I think the standards should fit the realities of the places of production. It may take decades or centuries but eventually industry will produce economic power and then political power for those at the bottom.
LikeLike
It’s actually a pretty simple policy fix from a trade agreement standpoint: require that trading partners chain their minimum wage to median income so that as their production and wealth increases their wages increase. This ensures that the workers in those economies share in the wealth gains from trade and that their labor markets don’t experience a permanent advantage over the US.
LikeLike
I don’t favor protectionism in any form. Their policies hurt them, not us. The result for us is cheap goods leaving more money in our pockets for, among other things, IPhones and football tickets. The sooner they realize that the sooner they’ll be able to compete.
If you’re an American worker and your job is threatened by a Mexican or a Vietnamese you’ve made some horrific life choices. There are plenty of good jobs in this country. Get an education and stay off drugs and show up to work and you won’t need a chicken plant or sock factory job.
LikeLike
I guess this means you’re ok with Foxconn and Apple paying Chinese workers slave wages, too, as long as you have money for an I-phone. Some friend of the working class YOU turned out to be. The workers get screwed and Apple corporate keeps all its cash offshore, free from taxation…..ummmm, until recently, when it started bringing cash and jobs back to the US. But, hey, you can afford an I-phone! Life is awesome!
LikeLike
I’m a friend of the AMERICAN working man and consumer.
LikeLike
oh So, you admit you’re a racist??? How arch.
LikeLike
The problem is that we are allowing capital to be free to move globally while labor is not. Creating properly functioning markets is about balancing the power in the market so that transactions can be made on an equal, competitive footing. Globalization inherently favors large multi-national companies against smaller local ones and has also given capital a massive advantage over labor – don’t like our negotiation terms, fuck you, we are moving overseas.
When people say “free markets” they think they are talking about markets free from government interference. This demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of markets. Fair markets, where having power or money doesn’t allow you to just take whatever you want or dictate the terms of the economy, exist precisely because of the rules established and enforced by the government.
So what you are talking about is “tariff free trade”. I’m not necessarily against having tariff free trade, but the terms under which that is allowed have to be looked at otherwise we end up with a race to the economic bottom such as what we are seeing now where countries are competing to drive their tax rates to unsustainably low levels to attract flighty capital.
LikeLike
So? It’s not our responsibility to build their middle class. Our focus should be preserving our own. Let them revolt, strike, die, kill for a decent wage. That’s what we had to do. The rich aren’t giving away shit. You gotta take it.
All power to the people. They can leverage it or perish.
It can’t and shouldn’t be regulated from DC except in extreme circumstances.
LikeLike
How exactly would companies dictate terms of an economy without government cooperation? Without government interference, wouldn’t competition be free to enter the market to the detriment of the large companies?
LikeLike
Oh, Derek. This is how it starts. One minute you’re in favor of fair wages for workers and against greedy corporations, and then suddenly you’re foaming at the mouth when someone points out a greedy corporation is not paying its workers fair wages. You’re against hate speech, then you hate people different from you. I’m so confused. I guess a foolish consistency really is the hobgoblin of small minds. I anxiously await your next thoughtful, well reasoned post. Bless your heart, I’m praying for you in this, your hour of turmoil.
LikeLike
So I was right on the short-circuiting thing. Thanks for the confirmation.
LikeLike
Is it true you were the model for the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail? I’m always amused when someone who is badly losing the argument proclaims VICTORY, YOU IGNORANT RABBLE and then runs away. But, if it helps you feel better about yourself, I understand. Have you considered yoga? Maybe some calming meditation would help you with your emotional outbursts. I’m not sure there is a cure for your reasoning (sic), but one thing at a time.
LikeLike
How does stupid keep score exactly?
LikeLike
You tell me, amigo. But I think counting total popular votes in a presidential election, as if they matter, would be one way.
LikeLike
Jerry Falwell?
LikeLiked by 1 person
LOL where was your outrage before the Kap campaign? And I hope you’ve diligently researched all the companies that you support through buying their products.
LikeLike
Speaking of cynical marketing ploys, I’m surprise that one of Nike’s competitors hasn’t already wrapped itself in the flag.
LikeLike
Under Armour tried something in 2017 … and then realized they wouldn’t get a comparable spokesperson.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/15/investing/under-armour-kevin-plank-stephen-curry-charlottesville-trump/index.html
LikeLike
Admittedly I haven’t heard or read everything that’s Kaepernick’s said about his stance on the anthem, but I don’t see his protests as attacking law enforcement or veterans (and I am a veteran, FWIW). Saying that there are problems with the legal system, or that you’re not okay with the apparent instances of police brutality, is not “attacking law enforcement” in my opinion. Please note, I said “apparent” instances of police brutality because not every incident is the same and sometimes facts come out later that contradict the initial media reports of police brutality.
I stand for the anthem because that’s what I feel compelled to do. If others choose to kneel as a form of peaceful protest, that’s their right, even if I disagree with what they’re protesting. It’s a shame that the conversation has been so focused on whether or not he’s right to kneel for the anthem rather than an actual examination of the issues he’s trying to bring to light.
LikeLiked by 1 person
agree 100%.
LikeLike
How about him wearing socks with police depicted as pigs. Is that enough of a statement about his thoughts on how he perceives them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/kaepernick-made-prior-statement-police-pigs-socks%3famp
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s certainly not how I would choose to protest, but again that’s his right. I don’t have to agree with it or condone his chosen form of expression in order to have a deeper conversation about those issues he’s trying to raise. In that same article you linked, he states:
“There is police brutality,” Kaepernick said. “People of color have been targeted by police. So that’s a large part of it and they’re government officials. They are put in place by the government. So that’s something that this country has to change.
“There are things we can do to hold them more accountable. Make those standards higher. You have people that practice law and are lawyers and go to school for eight years, but you can become a cop in six months and don’t have to have the same amount of training as a cosmetologist. That’s insane. Someone that’s holding a curling iron has more education and more training than people that have a gun and are going out on the street to protect us.”
I have no idea if he’s right regarding how long it takes to become a cop vs. a cosmetologist, but I’d love to see someone debate him on the facts rather than focusing on his footwear or him kneeling during the anthem.
LikeLike
Yep
LikeLike
A state of Tennessee legislator is asking to re-visit state schools that have nike contracts. I suppose that everything else in Tennessee is good to go and this is the biggest issue facing the state?
LikeLike
To the contrary. If he can occupy his time with the logo on school uniforms, it’s better than him writing legislation affecting the entire state population.
LikeLike
The amount of racists – like Jerry Falwell – who want to deflect from their own racism by mischaracterizing Kaepernick’s protest is very surprising. Whatever happened to the “pride” in “white pride”? Racist, cowardly assholes. thanks
LikeLiked by 1 person
They’re just a bit annoyed.
LikeLiked by 1 person
DON’T DO IT RANDY !!!!!!!!!
LikeLike
If you watch this episode and don’t think these guys are the best ever, I just don’t know what to tell you.
The way the episode ends with Congress is the most genius thing ever.
And they have dozens of episodes just as good.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Why did you even post this? Just to get people pissed off and being out the Derek’s? How about you stick to college football and we can debate politics somewhere else. Exactly what Kaepernick and Nike should have done as well.
LikeLike
Are you new here? The points is to put all the BS in one thread and not have it in all the others.
LikeLike
LikeLike
BS is right, I’m out.
LikeLike
Well bye melty!
LikeLike
Answer. First amendment
LikeLike
Wait, is the Senator an arm of the government now? I appreciate your expansive reading of the First Amendment, does that include freedom of religion, too? How about the second amendment?
Man, this not reading or understanding thing can be tricky.
LikeLike
I didn’t realize that invoking freedom of speech meant your claim also has to classify as religion. You left out the press too, but I’m sure you knew that.
It’s an especially rich sentiment coming from a right wing Trump supporter (guessing from your handle you’re an old white guy). All of you conveniently gloss over the “well regulated militia” qualifier, and skip straight to the “right to bear arms.”
LikeLike
“guessing from your handle you’re an old white guy”….WTF? LMFAO. That’s a bit of a reach isn’t it?
LikeLike
Not really, I’m not Sherlock Holmes but most of the commenters on this blog are white guys. And if you graduated from Georgia in 1981… You do the math.
LikeLike
“most of the commenters on this blog are white guys” – you make the assumption that only white people have certain opinions. Stereotype much? Careful or someone might call you a bigot who does not like old, white people, and is inclined to treat them differently. You sure rant about them. Tell us how you really feel dawg…..
LikeLike
Being an old white dude means that you don’t really have problems. Which is why you have to manufacture things to complain about like Nike… and we’ve come full circle.
Bigoted against white men? What could I possibly say? LOL, you’re rich. Hahahaha, must suck to be you with your lack of problems and your nice house and cars LOL.
LikeLike
by the way, thanks for paying my social security (when I finally start to take it). It will be comforting to know that a friend of the people like you will be out there working for me so I can afford hookers and blow well into my 90s! You have shamed me into realizing the nice house and cars I have are not, in fact, the product of working hard and saving my money my entire life, but rather a preordained conclusion simply because I’m a white guy, which means I have no problems at all and never had to work at all, for anything. Seems like the least I can do is thank you for taking care of me while you live in a refrigerator box, or wherever it is you oppressed victims live these days.
LikeLike
Oh, I’m a white guy too so I’m doing pretty well myself. Mostly because I had grandparents, and great grandparents who were educated and/or had really good jobs and/or owned successful businesses that they passed down and/or sold and/or parlayed into acquiring hundreds of acres of real estate that continue to appreciate in value. All of this in occurred in the deep south where, of course, history empirically shows that if they weren’t white men it really wouldn’t have mattered how hard they worked, or at least they would have had to work that much harder in order to achieve a fraction of that level of success. Not to say that they weren’t hard workers. Anyway, I guess I just got lucky. I’m sure you earned your fortune whilst working outside and never taking days off even if a major hurricane (that was definitely NOT a direct result of warmer oceans caused by copious amounts of fossil fuels burned over the last 100 or so years) hit your business on a work day.
Good for you man. Good. For. You.
LikeLike
LikeLike
Thanks for playing.
LikeLike
Good point. That’s why all the kids check “white” on their college applications, amirite? To get all that privilege?
LikeLike
Ah yes, not getting accepted into a PhD program at Harvard is basically the exact same as being gunned down in cold blood by a government employee. Fight the power man. This country just doesn’t understand the struggle of the white man.
LikeLike
LikeLike
“All of you”. Like the Supreme Court?
LikeLike
Supreme Court? You mean the one where 7 out of 9 justices (one pending) were appointed by old white dudes? Yeah, I think we’re talking about the same one.
LikeLike
What’s your problem with old white dudes? You racist piece of shit.
LikeLike
I have no problem with old white dudes as it pertains to their age and skin color, in fact I hope to be one in the future. I’m sure they appreciate you taking up for them though lol. They have it tough these days.
LikeLike
This is our country, the rest of y’all are merely guests. Now kneel before your overlords.
LikeLike
Literally how this country was founded despite the fact that we were the guests. Immigrants are a problem though lol. If there is a worse immigrant in the history of the world than the white man I wouldn’t want to meet him (or her).
LikeLike
I guess you didn’t really mean “the First Amendment” when you said “Answer. First Amendment.” See, if you read the entire amendment (get someone to help you with the big words), you would see that it references other things than freedom of speech. I’m not sure I can dumb it down for you enough for you to get the point of my questions, but since you clearly didn’t even understand what the questions were, I’m going to guess you haven’t scored well in reading comprehension tests.
If you understand the “militia” portion, you’d learn, with a little effort, that the “militia” was basically everyone not in the regular military, and in order for them to be useful if called into service, they needed to keep and bear their own arms. Just like in the Revolution, which was apparently run by evil old white guys. Picking and choosing in order to misread stuff is kind of a rookie error, but not really a surprising move by someone who’s best move is to start name calling. You certainly don’t seem to be capable of getting very far on facts and intelligence.
Believe it or not, there were plenty of women and “people of color” at UGA even in 1981. I’m not sure what that has to do with your argument, but it makes it easier to identify the people with zero constructive ideas for you to blather about my race, gender, etc. Facts must be such a tiresome thing for someone like you.
LikeLike
The question was asked about why the Senator posted this, and I responded “First Amendment,” because it’s his First Amendment right to post whatever he wants. How are you not getting that?
I didn’t call anyone names did I? Unless you’re talking abut being called old, in which case I would implore you to take off your skirt and stop acting like a snowflake. There’s nothing wrong with being old. It means you’re not dead yet. I commend you.
I’m not smart? What were the requirements to get into UGA undergrad in the late 70’s again? A pulse and a High School diploma. Pat yourself on the back sir.
I completely agree with and acknowledge your definition of militia which proves my point. Those no longer exist, therefore the 2nd Amendment (which is one sentence long) does not protect your right to bear arms unless you are a part of a well regulated militia that is securing our free state (which is the subject of the one sentence).
LikeLike
SIgh. The Second Amendment, properly understood, is an individual right, because that was what the drafters intended. I guess context is a difficult concept for someone who seems to be certain he knows a lot about stuff that each of your posts demonstrate you don’t know anything about. But hey, enjoy your outrage. The grownups in here are laughing at you and your humble bragging about yourself. You are free to assume anything you like about me, or my intellect, or my background. It wont make you right, and it will provide me continued amusement. If you cant win on the facts, go ahead and pound on the keyboard.
LikeLike
Ah properly understood huh? The 2A is an individual right with a clear qualifier. I personally don’t have a problem with guns, I just think it’s hilarious how people who are so high off of their own perceived self superiority try to explain away a sentence that was written in plain English. In the context of post Revolutionary War America the wording makes perfect sense. It wasn’t written in order for buck tooth Uncle Jim Bob to accumulate AK’s and AR’s for recreational target practice IMO, YMMV.
Facts? I love facts. Were you going to be using any today? As far as the intelligence assumptions go, you’re the old man throwing barbs about lack of cognitive abilities in the comment section. I just hit you with some facts about admissions standards at our Alma Mater.
LikeLike
the clear qualifier, read in proper historical context, that isn’t really a qualifier. Rights don’t come from the government, according to the drafters. The Constitution was a limit on the government. The second amendment is an individual right, which shall not be abridged.
I only seem to have a sense of superiority to you because…well…..intellectually, I’m superior. I’m not sure what “facts” you hit me with about admission standards in the 70s, but what, exactly, has that got to do with me? Do you have a copy of my application, or my transcript? Every 4th person in the world is Chinese, so by your reasoning (sic), if I line up you, Derek, the Senator and one other poster, one of you must be Chinese, right?
I see you’re behind on points, but flailing around because someone (not me) might have gotten admitted to UGA in 1975 with an 850 on the SAT proves what? I didn’t suggest you were uninformed based on my guesses about your HS grades, I did it based on your demonstrated reasoning deficiencies today. Clearly, you think your best approach is to throw a tantrum. Are you related to Derek? Maybe you can get a family group rate on anger management counseling! Dawgspeed!
LikeLike
Well, I guess I’m just too stupid to understand how one voids out the entire subject of a sentence with historical context that most learn in high school. My guess is you obtained a double PhD in English and History since you clearly have achieved such a nirvana of understanding on the subject. This was of course after you turned down full scholarships to several Ivy League institutions.
The irony of a grown man exclaiming his superior intellect, and claiming a points victory in the comments of a college football blog are not lost on me. That is the stuff of photo shopped inauguration crowds, and for that I sincerely thank you.
You’ve definitely proven me wrong with regard to the general tone deafness displayed by old, white, southern, republicans LOL. I think my stereotypes are pissing you off because they’re spot on, hence your insult laden responses.
I’ll be waiting expectantly for your genius retort which I know is coming because at this point I’m pulling the strings while you dance to my tune.
#TaxBreaksAndHipReplacements
LikeLike
Man. You are even worse at guessing than you are at reasoning. Based on your general skill (sic) level, I can see why you’d happily proclaim yourself as winning this argument. You must have a lot of guilt for your unearned white privilege. Or whatever hot air justification you want to use. You haven’t got a clue about me. Or anything else, it appears. As David Pollack once said to a SC defender years ago, “if this is me being your bitch, I’m loving it.” If you were any less intelligent, you’d be going backwards in time.
You did get one thing right, however. You are just too stupid to understand. I guess it’s a start on the path to self enlightenment! Congratulations!
LikeLike
Again, you’re completely backwards on the Constitution. Read anything by primary sources of the time. Read the minutes of the ratification conventions. Read the militia act of 1792, which states explicitly, “… each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia …”
Obviously, the Founders didn’t write the Second Amendment to keep military arms in the hands of the government and only allow private citizens to keep rocks and sharp sticks. That’s an interpretation only a 21st century academic could invent.
Stick to your racist stereotypes. Don’t try analysis.
LikeLike
81Dog,
I don’t intend to lower myself to the point of claiming comment section victories as I am not 15 years old. Might as well claim to be a champion of life. Remember, you called yourself a bitch not me. At this point you’ve completely reduced yourself to small minded insults and self exaltation as opposed to articulately defending your point of view. Keep dancing old man (sic). Keep dancing.
It’s been a slow day at work and you’ve been my jester.
LikeLike
“who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia …”
Napoleon,
The above statement is no longer the case. I’m in that age range and I’ve never been in any militia, and neither have you. 81dog may have forgotten since he is well past the expiration date, but he wasn’t in a militia either. That statement alone proves that the language no longer applies in the context of our society. Not to say that the 2A is worthless, but if you can’t at least concede that the 2A doesn’t unquestionably give you the right to own AK’s and AR’s the you’re just an ideologue. Simple as that.
LikeLike
You, me, 81, and every other man here has registered for the selective service, which makes us eligible (under the above act) to be conscripted into the militia. It still applies.
It’s not the idealogues who acknowledge the plain language of the amendment. The idealogues are the ones arguing that somehow over time, the amendment has come to mean the exact opposite of what the text shows. Again, read the original sources. If you doubt the actual words of the amendment, Mason, Adams, Madison, et al., can explain it fully.
LikeLike
Also, I think it’s interesting that you believe that technology has rendered the Second Amendment obsolete, yet not the First. There is little chance that any of the Founders could have envisioned anything like the Internet. Yet rifles were in use at the time of the ratification of the Constitution. Even semi-automatic rifles, which you argue invalidate the Second Amendment, came into being less than one hundred years after ratification. Does that mean the telegraph invalidated freedom of the press? Or that Vatican II invalidated freedom of religion? I wouldn’t think so.
LikeLike
“It’s not the idealogues (sic) who acknowledge the plain language of the amendment.”
Plain language? So with regard to militia and selective services (not really the same, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt) were you just going to pretend that the word “enroll” and the word “eligible” are synonyms and hope I didn’t notice lol? Then that would mean “registering for the draft” is the same as “enlisting.” Seriously man, at least proofread before you post. That was weak, and indefensible.
Moving on, I’m not saying that time has rendered the 2A obsolete, I’m just suggesting that there is at least a chance it might not specifically apply to AK 47’s, but for some reason that’s not even up for debate among ideologues. For some reason we have to refer to ancillary material not included in the US Const which in my view weakens the beloved document because you’re saying it can’t stand on it’s on.
With regard to 1A and technology, crazy ass white kids aren’t murdering their classmates with newspapers or facebook (which is a pretty significant difference) so I haven’t really considered the position, but I am open to having the discussion. Although, I am skeptical that I would reach the same conclusion.
LikeLike
I’m giving you context for the word militia. If you’re arguing that only militiamen were eligible to bear arms, you would be wrong. But even if you weren’t, under the usage of militia at the time, it meant everyone. Or at least, all white men between 18-45. So we’re back to you being wrong and the 2A allowing everyone to bear arms.
Next, you continue to be inconsistent. You argue that the 2A isn’t obsolete, but it just doesn’t apply to semiautomatic rifles. Which is it? Why do you believe that there is an unstated technological restriction built into the 2A, yet not any other part of the Constitution. And you’re continuing to double down on your own incorrect interpretation of the 2A. You think that militia means something and that there is a technological restriction. Rather than read what the authors of the amendment state that it means and what the ratifiers state that it means, you’ll just believe in the “living breathing document” fairy. Weak. Educate yourself.
Back to technology, you don’t think Internet bullying has lead to violence? Why not take away the Internet … for the children? And why worry about what crazy ass white kids do with technology? If some crazy ass white kids use guns, but some MS-13 thugs also use guns, does that make guns good or bad? Or are guns simply tools for the bad white kids and the saintly Latinos? Just wondering.
LikeLike
Thanks for the context lol. I don’t know who all was allowed to bear arms at the time, but I know that based on the exact wording of the 2A that only militia have that right. Even if that did apply to all men between the ages of 18-45 (which it definitely doesn’t), that still doesn’t include everyone so you are still quite completely and embarrassingly wrong.
I didn’t say the 2A was or wasn’t obsolete. I just said there is an open minded and reasonable conversation to be had with regard to the advancement in weaponry over the past 250 years. You would have to be open minded and reasonable in order to understand that.
Again, I said the same thing about the 1A, but being that guns are manufactured for the sole purpose of killing and speech, media, and other forms of communication exist to spread ideas I would probably arrive at the conclusion that you would have to be a complete moron to apply the same level of criteria to both. If your argument is that mean Facebook posts are just as dangerous as AK’s and AR’s then I would suggest taking out your tampon while I laugh in your face. Once again, ymmv.
There you go with your sacred ancillary material argument bullshit. It says what it says. Deal with it. The founding fathers weren’t Gods. I’m only interested in the things they wrote that are actually laws and effect my life today.
MS-13 members aren’t shooting up our schools, churches, movie theaters, concerts and night clubs. White men are. So by Trump’s logic we should deport all white men because some of them are dangerous. MS-13 might cut your head off, but a white kid will take out your whole congregation.
LikeLike
If the militia were the only ones allowed to bear arms, then the amendment would read, “the right of the MILITIA to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” But it doesn’t say that. Inconveniently for you, it reads, “the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Since people <> militia, you’re wrong. Still.
And I’m not arguing that newspapers are as dangerous as guns. Although the government may disagree based on various sedition laws passed over time. I’m simply trying to get you to apply your “logic” consistently throughout the Constitution. If the 2A changes over time based on technology, why doesn’t the 1A? It can’t be the fact that guns are dangerous. They were dangerous in the eighteenth century. They killed people back then.
I’m not suggesting that eighteenth century poetry will inform on what the Constitution means. I’m suggesting that the authors of the Constitution, in writings explaining what the Constitution means, can inform someone on what the Constitution means. It’s interesting that you’re so invested in remaining ignorant on the subject.
Your argument is that white people are more violent than MS-13 members? Thanks. Even though it’s not lunch time yet, I am awarding you the official “Dumbest thing written on the Internet today” award. It also tells me all I need to know about your intellectual capacity.
LikeLike
If the militia weren’t the only ones allowed to bear arms then why would they be mentioned at all in the 2A? There has to be a reason.
Take some Law classes perhaps? Different types of scrutiny are required for different amendments because they all deal with completely different issues. For example the 4th amendment has changed with time regarding searches and seizures. You can now get a warrant for phone records. Phones didn’t exist when the constitution was written. Understand? Sometimes things change. Conversely, we still have a right to a fair, speedy, public trial by jury. That has not changed regardless of the crime.
Again, I am open to being incorrect about 2A application, but ancillary writing isn’t constitutional because it isn’t in the constitution. You seem as if you’re pretty well versed in these writings, so I’m a little surprised you haven’t quoted any at this point.
White people commit way more crime this country than MS-13 (and more crime per capita than all immigrants in general). That’s a verifiable fact. Obviously the idea that we should deport all white people is ridiculous. My point is that it is an equally ridiculous notion when applied to any people group.
LikeLike
With regard to the deadlines of weapons in the 18th century compared to now. Why don’t you try bringing a musket to an AK 47 fight. LMK how you come out if you can still access your account when you’re dead af lol.
LikeLike
81Dog’s point, which you have continued to miss, is that the First Amendment doesn’t apply here. If you read the First Amendment, you will see the statement, “Congress shall make no law,”. Since Congress has not made a law regulating playpen posts on Bluto’s personal blog, we’re not in First Amendment territory. Get it?
LikeLike
Congress can make no law restricting the Senator from posting as he pleases. Therefore he can post whatever he wants. The First Amendment affords him that freedom.
LikeLike
You can do anything the federal government doesn’t prevent you from doing? You really believe that? And you believe that it applies here? Hokay.
LikeLike
Dude, what are you talking about? It was an offhand comment that makes perfect sense within the context of the Constitution. I’m not about to go into deep state conspiracy theories just because you’re embarrassed that you tried to make me look stupid and ended up being wrong.
LikeLike
Who’s talking conspiracies? Your reading comprehension is as lacking as your legal reasoning. I suggest you read something like The Constitution for Dummies (at a minimum) before you start spouting off on the subject in the future.
LikeLike
Alright genius. Explain to me how “Congress shall make no law… prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,” doesn’t allow us the freedom to say what we want. Based on the Constitution the Feds can’t stop us. I just gave you the correlation, and it ain’t disputable, sorry dude.
Like I said, you’re wrong, but it really doesn’t matter either way. I wasn’t intending to make a political statement, just a bit of snark. Best for you to move on with your life.
LikeLike
Now the first Amendment would not apply if say, the Senator deleted your comment because he didn’t like it, as GTP is not a state entity. Was that your point? If so, that’s not what I was referring to,
LikeLike
Now you’re getting it. Bonedawg’s question wasn’t why Bluto was allowed to post something inflammatory on WordPress by the government. If he had asked that, then your First Amendment answer would have been correct. Bonedawg just asked why Bluto wanted to stir the pot. Nobody suggested that he didn’t have a legal right to post on his own blog.
LikeLike
I am just perplexed at how my tongue in cheek statement about freedom of speech has gotten you on such a high horse about constitutional interpretation. The fact remains that the Senator does have a legal right to post on his own blog without fear of government intervention and the First Amendment affords him that right. Not that the government would intervene, which is where my obvious (at least I thought so) snark comes into play. Geez dude, get triggered over nothing why don’t you.
LikeLike
It’s interesting that you’re so invested in defending your throw away joke. Has the information 81 and I offered about where and when the First Amendment applies (which you now, belatedly, acknowledge isn’t everywhere at every time) triggered you somehow? Has our not laughing hurt your feewings? Can you show us on a doll exactly where?
LikeLike
Oh man, you spelled “feelings” wrong. There is no “w” in the word feelings. Do you not know how to spell? What an embarrassment. How could you be such an inept and uneducated speller? Maybe you should read “spelling for dummies” before you go around trying to use words since you clearly think that’s how you spell that word. Let’s talk about this for an extended period of time, and don’t try to tell me that you spelled it wrong as a joke. I won’t hear it. I demand to that you acknowledge how correct I am.
^^ You all day.
Although, I still suspect that at some point during this discussion, you realized that your smart ass remark was wrong, and you’ve spent this entire time trying to lay the foundations of argument that might allow you to save a little face. WordPress should give us the options to delete comments so that people like yourself don’t waste your whole day.
LikeLike
Still doubling down to defend your throw away joke I see. Go ahead and tell us how you’ve just been trolling everyone because you’re so smart and funny. Why, I guess when you say dumb stuff as a joke and people refute your points, that’s the definition of winning! Good one.
LikeLike
Who said anything about winning? Anyone who fancies themselves a winner on an Internet forum is a loser if I’ve ever seen one. You haven’t refuted a single thing I’ve said which is what I’ve found so strange. You don’t want to have a conversation, you just want to change the definition of words and declare some sort of victory. I was initially just trying to hash out what your original point of contention was. Then I realized what was actually going on.
If you had a real argument you would have at least attempted to explain away the obvious inconsistency in your previous post, but you didn’t because you’re a troll.
LikeLike
Keep defending your incorrect throw away joke. Are you willing to spend a week defending it? A month? Exactly how hurt are your feelings that you incorrectly interpreted and applied the Constitution?
LikeLike
Not defending it. Just calling s spade a spade. Sorry you weren’t able to comprehend the joke in the first place and got yourself worked up for well over a day. 🤷🏻♂️
LikeLike
The anthem protests have been Issue #1 on the Russian intelligence agitation machine, for good reason. It’s a really reliable way to get Americans yelling at each other.
“Disregard that country leveraging its military power and fossil fuel resources to threaten its European neighbors back into the Iron Curtain days. Look at that n***** kneeling during the anthem!”
It’s especially odd in my neck of the woods. Men and women who seem to prefer the Confederate flag seem the most bent out of shape over the NFL players’ protests. I don’t know, maybe preferring the flag of another country to your own country’s is more disrespectful than kneeling (as if in prayer) during the singing of the national anthem?
LikeLiked by 3 people
ding ding ding *
We have a winner! Seriously, best post yet.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-trolls-using-nfl-protests-sow-discord-online-republican-senator-n805296
https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/08/technology/nfl-national-anthem-russia-trolls/index.html
LikeLike
I recently read a book about a top Soviet spy that defected to the UK in the 80’s. The book was written in the 90’s, well before widespread internet and social media. He described perfectly the techniques the KGB used to sow doubt and discontent with false or inflammatory news stories and editorials. Social media was like steroids for their techniques.
Fascinating book overall, and it was chilling reading about their disinformation techniques. Of course, that’s all “fake news”, right?
LikeLike
Very interesting, thanks. I’ll look into that.
And you’re right… the Soviet/Russian tactic of using disinformation against Western democracies has a long history. These days, Russian disinformation leverages social media and polarization to further divide Americans. But the Russian government uses disinformation on its own people as well. (Good background reading, by the way: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/os-trid-033017.pdf)
And speaking of former spies, interesting report out this morning on that bizarre assassination attempt (with a Soviet-era nerve agent) in Salisbury, England: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/podcasts/the-daily/putin-sergei-skripal-russia-spy-poisoning.html
Strange times. In the last four years (or so) we’ve seen arguably the most confrontational Russian behavior since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
LikeLike
bravo
LikeLike
The late Christopher Hitchens once said of Jerry Falwell Sr. “if he had been given an enema, he could have been buried in a matchbox”. I see the shit apple didn’t fall far from the shit tree.
LikeLiked by 1 person
TPB +5
LikeLike
“if he had been given an enema, he could have been buried in a matchbox”
What did Hitchens mean by this quote? It’s clearly an insult, I’m just not getting the correlation between shooting an enema up your ass, and shrinking a corpse to the size of a matchbox.
LikeLike
It means Falwell was full of shit.
LikeLike
Ah, 👏🏻👏🏻. Thanks.
LikeLike
I find it funny that nike is using a washed up, has been, failure to represent its product. Michael Jordan he ain’t.
LikeLiked by 1 person
He’s not a washed up, has been, failure. He sacrificed his career for this, dude. Didn’t you watch the ad? It’s got people with physical challenges doing amazing things, historical figures taking stands against social injustice, and right in the middle of it is good old Colin, whose only challenge is apparently affording a haircut since the Niners kicked him to the curb ………
LikeLike
Hey, anybody want to talk BBQ and movies?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Careful, people will fight to the death over BBQ.
LikeLike
Boy, now you’ve done it…
LikeLike
And yes, I do. Saw’s in Homewood is the best southern bbq anywhere. Maurice’s is second and that roadkill from Eastern Carolina should be outlawed.
LikeLike
I love the Playpen segment – I also spit my coffee out three times laughing at these comments. Keep it coming you stupid fuckers!!!!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I agree. All these comments are a lot more entertaining (that’s what this is, right?) when they don’t interrupt the important stuff.
LikeLike
The vitriol that some of the posters here argue their positions has it’s own entertainment value, for sure.
FWIW, I was kind of hoping this one would turn into a roast of TV preachers.
LikeLike
Amen – Falwell = Reverend Flavel
LikeLike
…… and there’s Ray Goff calling out stupid fuckers! (perhaps the irony?)
LikeLike
Kap, Nike, the NFL and Falwell are all just FOS> Every one of them has an alliterative motive for their faux “stands” . It’s about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Get it? None of them are sincere. There isn’t an ounce of sincerity in the whole sorry assed bunch.
If you think any of them are making a statement that gives you some sort of personal validation for your belief system, you are a mullet.
LikeLiked by 1 person
What a d-bag. However, if that is his stance then his agreement with Nike is safe because a marketing ploy is all that it is.
It is ironic though, Falwell Jr.’s real stance seems to be, “publicly stand for something as long as you keep your options open, its in line with your support base and makes you some money. And hopefully that will make a difference”. Which, as I said in last week’s playpen, is Colin Kaepernick’s(the marketing genius) apparent mindset.
LikeLike
Who is upset with Nike’s ad campaign and the Kaep protests in general? Answer. Mostly white people with nothing else to complain about.
The only group who’s opinion on this subject interests me are former and current black service members. They’re the only people who live on both sides of the fence. The majority of them seem fine with it, and many support it. So why would I care?
Cue white people googling examples of black people speaking out against Kaepernick.
LikeLike
Two individuals who aren’t old white guys who live in your same country and somehow have a far more optimistic and less of a victim hood mentality. Maybe you should discuss your issues with them.
Ben Watson
https://dailycaller.com/2016/09/07/why-this-nfl-player-will-never-sit-during-the-national-anthem/
Dak Presscot
https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dak-prescott-anthem-comment-reaction-10964133
LikeLike
LOL, did I call that or what?
Well as long as two black guys “who never served in the military” think it’s wrong then I guess they speak for everyone.
Unless of course you actually read all of what Watson said
“His (Kaepernick’s) actions and similar actions by figures of the past and present are a vital part of our journey and a key component of the equation for social change and should be respected as such.”
So now you’re down to one. Commence googling.
LikeLike
BREAKING: Politicizing everything compels people to “take sides” on issues on which reasonable people ought not take sides, and the result is that everyone involved sounds like an imbecile.
LikeLiked by 3 people
Open comment thread censored. Nice move.
LikeLike
LOL! Check the previous thread. You posted your hot take there by mistake.
LikeLiked by 1 person
We got a genius over here.
LikeLike
LOL. Blame it on Ambien?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-blames-ambien-zolpidem-drug-real-side-effects/654683002/
LikeLike
Stirring the sand or the toys in the play pen this morn?
Good grief!
Digress.
Will it be a wet, rainy game Saturday in Athens?
Amusing to watch those liberal, sky is falling dudes at Atlanta based Weather Channel re Hurricane Florence.
Over night there is a changing track is what they are saying.
Notice the NHC and NWS do not run out screaming like those folks!
That cone this morn is moving slowly south. Wise to print those cones and watch the movement along with the national weather maps once the a system comes into play.
Best forecaster and hell raising mantra for we combat vets is this song from AC/DC [for you guys dealing in sex this morn and more profanity].
“I’m a rolling thunder, a pouring rain
I’m comin’ on like a hurricane
My lightning flashing across the sky
You’re only young but you’re gonna die
I got my bell, I’m gonna take you to hell.”
Partial lyrics from “Hells Bells”.
Looking at that cone now guess Jerry’s prayers re the storm may have been answered.
Way to go dude.
LikeLike
Anybody in the path of Florence? Besides me that is. Florence is gonna level Florence.
LikeLike
Get out of there Hog. I rode out a TS on the gulf coast once. That was scary as hell, especially when the lights went out and the water started coming up, and that was nothing compared to this bad boy.
LikeLike
Reading the forecasts for Florence gives me flashbacks of Harvey last year. I’ve never seen that much rain in my life, 50″ in 3 days. With Florence forecast to stall inland, everyone there should be much more worried about flooding. Wind damage inland will be minimal, but this doesn’t sound like just a wind storm. Flooding will be the real threat. Once it starts raining, it will be hard to leave.
LikeLike
Yeah, I should probably bone up on my South Carolina geography. Florence isn’t on the coast. Stay dry, Hog!
LikeLike
Not on the coast but only an hour or so inland from MB.Darlington speedway may be a lake.
LikeLike
How news can impact business profits and wealth.
Poor weather forecast, possibly can.
Georgia Power may have to stay closer to home.
But power companies from Kentucky and other southern states are staged
Wonder how many ships return to Hampton Roads and Norfolk.
Or other assets at Cherry Point or Fort Bragg will be impacted
Consult with Jake Fromm. Impressive young man for those recent words.
Must be pursing a BBA.
Glad to have taken that lab course in weather while pursing my undergraduate degree back in the day.
Hell’s Bells it paid off while in combat, thank you UGA!
Colin, who would want to serve with you when the rounds got thick and hot?
No respect for America and those who served with honor and their life.
LikeLike
LikeLike
Will, it’s been a long time. But I remember the Patrol Order. 1.Situation a.Enemy Forces (1)Weather (note effects). I’m a big fat liar. I still keep a Ranger handbook close. What’s important is weather considered the enemy.
LikeLike
ASEF and MDDawg express my feelings. A member of my family asked months ago how I felt and I expressed to her that, as a veteran, I have no problem with anyone expressing themselves by kneeling during the national anthem. I told her that there is no better standard for expressing respect for the flag than kneeling, protest or not, and, like religion, should be expressed as uniquely as you feel in this country. That was to mollify her sense of religion that had been placed into the falderal by tRump and I was called a hippie for being straightforward.
The division that the ahole elected by less than a majority has created is now a re-infected societal wound that is not going to be healed anytime soon, but, in retrospect, maybe we should thank the stupid putz for opening an unhealed and scabbed-over racial resentment that needed to be exposed to the light of day. It turns time backwards to the 50s-60s period when racial animosity was experienced openly in this country when we had to examine our social conscious along with our religion. I feel the same now as I did then and by voting for John Kennedy I was able to express myself politically and hopefully will be able to do so again in a couple of months.
I’m with Kaepernick and Nike all the way and in the same vein of protest that Patagonia stands for in the rape of our environment by the greedy Right. Every standard of education and citizens’ rights in place to protect the air we breath and the water we drink is being assailed as if a foreign government has reached in to twist the progressive standards fought for and won by a progressive society over many years. I don’t kid myself concerning the outcome either since most people have been 2/3 wrong by vote on these issues and it can happen again in Nov, but I have hopes that the spark of decency can come alive and most citizens can conscientiously pull together to right the ship.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Even the “Hound” would not tolerate Colin!
LikeLike
Just think a simple commercial, who if you don’t want to see. Change the channel.
Where has the ability to talk civilly to each other as Americans come to the point of harsh rhetoric that makes ya wanna busts guys windshield out with a crow bar.
Yup be proud Americans; We have come so far with segregation, L A Riots, Chicago, mass shootings of children.
Ya’ll ever heard of Rome. They used crucification to go against the words that opposed them.
You see how that turned out !
LikeLiked by 1 person
1 Not that I care, but yes it’s hypocritical. He’s pandering to a base constituency. Shocker.
Count me in the camp as one that disagrees with Kaep’s idea that this is an appropriate way to protest issues (I don’t think it is), but he has every right to do it. Too many people don’t understand that.
H
He has his own credibility issues, and has now monetized the issue he created. That’s not very genuine. But yay capitalism!
LikeLike
So Black Jerseys?
LikeLike
Curious to why we haven’t seen the “wild dawg” formation this year.
LikeLike
Depending on who you ask in here, it could be 1. We are saving it for later, haven’t really needed it so far, 2. It’s Trump’s fault, 3. THE RUSSIANS ARE CALLING THE PLAYS NOWWWWWW!, or 4. Jim Chaney is an old white guy who doesn’t respect the modern game.
Me, I’m going with 1, but that’s probably just my hypocritical white privilege showing. I am shame.
LikeLike
3 quotes from Barry Goldwater strike me as apropos here:
“Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.”
“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in ‘A,’ ‘B,’ ‘C’ and ‘D.’ Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?”
And of course: “I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass!” (Father-son, tree-apple.)
LikeLike
Falwell is a conman. Period, paragraph.
LikeLike
Remember 17 years ago today when we were united as a country? Then the liberals wouldn’t go along with invading Iraq, which we all now admit was stupid as fuck, including Trump, and we haven’t been able to agree on anything since.
Liberals fault.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Trump is much smarter than you,Derek. You dumbass.
LikeLike
Given your random irrelevant response I’m not trusting your judgement on it.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Great response. I was simply busting your balls. You seem to be a highly intelligent individual who brings an interesting perspective to this board. Keeps me from living in the echo chamber of my limited social circle. Unfortunately I don’t have the time or patience to argue.
LikeLike
You mean House Democrats, who voted 39% to invade? Or Senate Democrats who voted 58% to invade? Or Obama who responded to the war (and his campaign promises to end it) by initiating the surge and doubling down on occupation? Party of doves my ass.
Cool story though.
LikeLike
Maybe “WMD” played a small part.
LikeLike
Must have been tough to think of something to write about today, huh, Blotarsky? I thought this was a UGA football site.
LikeLike
LOL! Somebody didn’t get the memo.
LikeLike
Other than one MPC and seven posts about football today, you may be on to something…
Oh, and bonus points for “Blotarsky”. True wit, there.
LikeLike
Seems more appropriate then Blutarsky. Especially in some pontificating blowhard like you. Of course you are not the only one on this blog; just read these comments.
LikeLike
Seriously, if you have that kind of contempt for me, why do you read the blog?
LikeLike
Just a casual observer here, but Axe to Grind seems more appropriate “then” No Axe to Grind.
LikeLike
In Russia, Pussy Riot got put in jail for speaking their minds. We are fortunate to be able to have our freedoms and Kaepernick/Nike have every right. As for Falwell, his brand would know a lot about a cynical marketing ploy, that’s what he does. Kaepernick should stick to football, however, oh yea he can’t cut it in the league, he was only a one hit wonder.
LikeLike
LikeLike