Thought I’d get this week’s edition started with a couple of requests.
I had some emails asking me to share some pics from Rennsport, so here goes.
This is the Porsche 64, the 1939 prototype that led to the post-war Porsche company. I’d never seen one in the flesh before. They actually took it on the track for a short run.
I was lucky enough to get a pass on to the bay area adjoining the track. I got a close-up opportunity to see cars heading in as they prepared to race.
This year’s Rennsport was a four-day affair that drew over eighty thousand fans. Pretty impressive.
Topic two? Well…
https://twitter.com/mondilator/status/1047208082395344898
Kirby ain’t happy about Sasser’s “Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son” moment.
“If what I read and heard is true, it’s really unacceptable behavior that’s not who we are at Georgia,” Smart said. “We’re trying to build a program on tolerance and mutual respect. You can’t control what other people say, but the expectation is that people that are part of our program and come to our games share the same beliefs that we do. It’s sad that something like this would happen. I’m disappointed. But it doesn’t affect our family, our unit here and our kids have been great. It’s not something I’ve had to address with them. I’ve addressed it with Justin. That’s the most important thing.”
Actually, no, that’s not the most important thing. The most important thing is public perception and whether that trickles down to the recruiting trail. So, while I agree with this take…
Gulebian was asked what her and her friends thought should happen to Sasser.
“Honestly, that’s kind of hard to say,” said Gulebian, a junior majoring in animal science. “I don’t know how far his consequence should go. But I do think something should happen. People will think it’s OK if it doesn’t, and it’s not OK. Plus, he’s a student-athlete. He’s a public figure, people know who he is and he represents our school. He should know better. So I don’t know what should happen but I think something should happen.”
… I strongly suspect Sasser’s fate rests largely in Smart’s hands.
Share your suspicions in the comments section, if you dare.
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UPDATE: And there you have it.
Get The Picture 
I’ve never been much of a car guy but have grown an affinity for Porche over the past 5 years or so. I’ve been eyeing up a Cayenne for quite a while but can’t pull the trigger due to the sticker cost. Maybe I need to consider used, but for now I continue to be very happy with my 8 year old, 180k XC90.
As for Sasser, he serves as a valuable lesson that, while you certainly have freedom of speech, you don’t have freedom from consequences. As embarrassed as he (hopefully) is, he is very, very lucky his actions werent caught on video by someone quickly pulling out their phone, or he would be plastered all over the news and social media. And as we know, actions caught on tape are 1000x worse than word of mouth. Think Ray Rice and many others.
He’s probably feeling sorry for himself, and while he now has an albatross around his neck, again he got off easy, even if he’s kicked out of school.
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Folks need to learn that lesson … Sure, you have the freedom of speech, but you aren’t free from consequences.
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Catenne? What? Nooooooo. Buy a Porsche. Please, for the love of all things sacred.
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The Cayenne is kind of a big beast. I’m not exactly a SUV fan, anyway, but if that’s your cup of tea, you might want to look at the Macan, which is a little smaller, more nimble and a lighter hit to the pocket book.
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I could be wrong, but I’m almost certain someone caught Sasser’s outburst on Snapchat. Surprised his fate hasn’t already been determined.
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Georgia coaches have more control over discipline these days. No doubt Sasser had to speak with Fields one-on-one and there will be extra conditioning and service work involved for Sasser.
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I’m an E30 lifer. On my third one. (It’s a 1984-91 325i and it’s variants). But I’m also a car guy and I’m happy the senator had a special weekend. It’s road Atlanta for my son and I next week.
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I have a feeling Sasser’s fate is not in the hands of Kirby, Stricklin or McGarity. Maybe not even Morehead. It’s surely written in stone somewhere, probably in fine print, so nobody has to decide, it just happens.
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It’s a violation of the student code of conduct without doubt, and it would be reported, investigated, and action very possibly taken through the university.
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I don’t understand; why would it be in Smart’ hands? Isn’t this a baseball player?
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If its anything other than written very clearly in black and white, exactly what must happen to the kid, then someone has discretion. If anyone has discretion, then that person is going to do exactly what Kirby wants them to do. In the heirarchy of the entire State of Georgia school system, Kirby sits on top whenever there’s an issue into which he feels like interjecting himself.
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Probably no connection but the timing of the Haselwood decommit makes it feel like this story might have been a tipping point.
Any reason anybody can think of why white people are all of a sudden more open in their racism? Any reason why current events remind me of fictional and historical movies?
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GTFO with your ridiculous analogies.
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Your stated distinctions are certainly persuasive.
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So cute. Yes. 2018 USA is exactly like 1939 Germany. It’s only the brave idiots like you who can speak out against the genocide Trump is engaged in.
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The important take here is the averted eyes from the reality of what Trump is suggesting, even to the points of using the highest office in power of the world to denigrate a private citizen who felt compelled to come forward as the individual citizen we all project in ourselves. Look closely at the words of those who support Trump to see the meaning that rolls down the hill towards all citizens. He appeals to that same base moral character that Hitler appealed to for years before his attempt to take over the free world. That appeal is reaching an unconscionable level of divisiveness that affects all of us.
Look carefully at the moneyed oligarchs we have here and abroad for the source of push with power behind the throne that none of us vote for or against as being the root cause of Trump’s denigrative and appalling comments at his biergarten-like rallys. His soothing words from the day before flip into what he really means at those ego-infusing public get- togethers. If you can understand how appalling the UGA baseball player’s words were, why can’t you see that as the words and attitudes that Trump has expressed for years? Remember Trump’s valet? Take a look at some of the racial quotes the valet expressed quoting Trump, the guy he followed religiously, to envision how this political game plays out. Many of us are already divided into camps that approximate politically the preface to the Civil War.
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Well said
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I will agree that Trump is the most racist president we’ve had in the last 15 minutes. However, my view of history is longer than that. It’s ridiculous to suggest that Trump is more racist than FDR, Wilson, Lincoln, Eisenhower, or just about any other president except for Obama. And to suggest that Trump’s historically low levels of racism will result in anything approximating genocidal policies is nonsense on stilts. Unless you redefine genocide to mean anything except open borders and government benefits to the world.
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When it comes to immigrants, how many deaths/abuses does it take to qualify as genocide? Just askin’ about one consequence he has perpetrated on us all and that doesn’t take into consideration what he has done to air quality, clean water to drink and the other enacted ecological protection measures that he has struck down surreptitiously. The count on that is a little bit harder to account for genocide levels that approximate the mowing down of the population with machine guns, but what kind of numbers do you need to qualify for the word “genocide” that you used?
My point is and always has been that these actions by Trump approach the same level of divisiveness pursued by Hitler when he was coming to power and that he used to accuse the Jews for the economic problems of Germany after WWI. Most of us see how that played out, beginning with “Kristallnacht”.
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Well, genocide requires large numbers of deaths. I haven’t seen reports of border patrol killing significant numbers of immigrants, have you? Also, rolling back environmental regulations doesn’t even mean the air and water get dirtier, let alone lead to mass deaths as a result.
I understand your point about divisiveness. But you’re off base. Hitler saying bad things about Jews and Trump saying bad things about MS-13 members aren’t comparable. Not even a little. So it’s completely unfounded to equate the two and then insist that the next step is genocide.
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You are equating the post WWI Jews in Germany to the MS-13 gang crossing the border? That’s exactly the divisive thinking that I’ve posted about – equating an international lawless gang to immigrants fleeing them.
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No, I’m talking about Trumps words vs Hitlers. Hitler denigrated Jews in general. Trump has denigrated MS-13 members in particular. That’s why they’re incomparable. It’s more divisive to insist that insulting MS-13 members is insulting to ALL Hispanics than it is to simply argue the merits of border control.
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Trump didn’t even know what MS-13 was when he started denigrating Mexicans. Your excuse making is ridiculous. You’re so dug in to defend your glorious leader that you’ll beclown yourself to whatever end rather than admitting he is what everyone says he is – an idiot racist clown.
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Whatever, dude. If you want more MS-13 thugs in the USA, just admit as much instead of crying about how “diversity is our strength.” If you want an open door to human traffickers, just admit it instead of fretting about innocent families being temporarily separated. They’re stupid positions, but at least they’re honest positions. Own it.
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Cojones,
There’s never been any Irish, Jewish or Italian thugs who immigrated here. Ever. Thuggery is unique to Hispanics.
OR
Someone should have had the decency to keep the Irish, the Jews and the Italians out. Country has gone downhill ever since.
That’s the two positions. Its gotta be one or the other. Either the Hispanics are unique in being bad among all the groups of people who have come here so they deserve to be singled out OR we fucked up when we let the Irish, the Jewish people and Italians in in the first place.
It’s either stupid or racist or both.
You’re better off talking to a wall than to that dick.
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Finally learned your lesson not to debate against your intellectual betters, eh Derek? Good boy.
But as usual, you’re ass backwards. Most illegal immigration comes from the US-Mexico border. That’s just a fact. It’s also a fact that the federal government is perfectly within its rights to try to limit said illegal immigration.
Do you think you could drop a couple million Hispanics, Jews, Irish, or whatever other demographic straw man you come up with, into the middle of Hong Kong and not affect its culture? Of course not. But that’s what is being done here. That’s why no countries have open borders. Now, I understand you believe yourself terribly enlightened and progressive to believe that inviting the world’s cast offs would only improve our country. But you’re more wrong than usual.
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Bonerhead just copy/pasting from Stormfront, now… pretty much confirming he’s a full on white nationalist.
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Great points Chili. Border security = white nationalism. Given Mexico’s harsher penalties for illegal immigration, does that mean they’re white nationalists as well? How about Israel? There sure are a lot of white nationalist countries in the world. Scary.
Or were you just using ad hominem attacks to evade discussing an actual point? One never can tell with you.
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Well said Cojones. Spy novel author John LaCarre was interviewed recently. He was asked about Russian oligarchs and how they effected our elections. He responded the oligarchs weren’t just Russians – there are plenty right here in the USA, and some have absolutely no interest in democracy.
Fox news actually deleted the laughter from last week’s trump address to the UN! Never thought that could happen in this country either.
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White people aren’t any more or less racist than any other group.
This guy was a dipshit.
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“White people aren’t any more or less racist than any other group.”
See, that’s what we call “white privilege.” You’ve got a bad case of it.
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Did Jewish, Irish, or Italian immigrants enter our country illegally en masse and then start making demands? There is a difference and that is it.
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What demands Mike?
Like, “sure is a nice business you got here, it’d be a shame if something happened to it.”
That sort of thing?
How about “hey politician, you remember that money you took from me. Now you do me this favor.”
Is that what you mean?
The idea that prior immigrant communities were pristine and law abiding is a farce. Every group has its issues, but so far as I can see your average Mexican laborer is about as fine a person is any of us will ever meet.
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You’re arguing a point that I didn’t argue. I didn’t even suggest that prior immigrant communities were pristine. Never even thought it. But I don’t believe any of them showed up illegally in waves and acted as if we owed them a job or a life in this country. As to whether or not the average Mexican laborer is as fine as person as any of us will meet, again while that’s most likely true, I’m not arguing the point of whether or not they are nice people. And only a fool would argue their work ethic. But the ones who came here illegally did so knowing full well that they were breaking our law as it relates to immigration. They played the odds and took a risk. I don’t blame them. But I also am able to see that in doing so they are not victims when they are caught and deported. Both sides are stupid to act as if this is a simple issue. It isn’t as simple as “you’re a racist!,” when people voice the valid concern that we can not take everybody who wants to come here from Mexico and can’t just act as if our immigration laws don’t matter. And it isn’t as simple as “damn liberals just want open borders.” And we can’t just slam the door shut. Americans are mostly too far,lazy, and weak to do the jobs these folks want to do. We have to figure this out but it ain’t as simple as so many want to make it. Yelling slogans is easy but it doesn’t help anybody.
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*fat not far.
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Fair enough but you did suggest that there was a unique quality about current immigrants in making demands and en masse and illegally all things that either did happen or in the case of the jewish people, I wish it had, but whatever. (We rejected thousands of Jewish immigrants who would later be killed by the Germans. My preference would have been they be sheltered anne frank style if necessary, even if it was against the law. Sometimes man’s law must yield to God’s.)
My solution is:
Show up at a crossing.
Personal data taken
Photo Taken
Finger Prints taken
Checked against a criminal history database..
Some minor health screening.
Q: Where you going?
A: Omaha, Nebraska
Ok. Show up at this office in 3 months with your pay stubs.
Show up. Confirm employment and no criminal violations. Repeat that for a period of time. Work and stay out of trouble and welcome to America! It’s not that hard. We make it hard because it pays politically to make it hard.
There was a reason that Cubans were treated differently: Florida’s electoral votes.
The problem is that we reward the politicians for purposefully manipulating us.
Labor is a market like any other and to the extent possible, it should be a free one. We’ll know when we’re full. They’ll stop coming.
People aren’t a drain. They are a resource. No reason in the world to want less people who want to come work.
More labor means reasonable labor coasts and that means that affordable food and construction will follow. Domestic workers make money to buy goods at Walmart. Walmart needs more employees. In totality, immigration is a good thing. Always has been despite the fact that the natives resented each and every group, including ourselves.
Of course I’m in a unique position in that I’m pretty sure my first ancestor showed up 500 years ago involuntarily an ear light because he wouldn’t pledge allegiance to the British crown. Why? Because fuck that asshole that’s why.
We’ve not progressed a lot in terms of respect for authority.
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I don’t have an issue with that if the government doesn’t find a way to screw it up. Guess how much faith I have that they won’t. Otherwise That sounds good to me. As an iron worker I’m in one of the last bastions of good paying blue collar work that Americans haven’t totally abandoned and decided is too hard to be worth the money. I’m mostly Scots Irish and German like most Southerners but also have a good dose of Italian and there is some Jew in the wood pile too. So I am those people you mentioned as I suspect you probably are too. Anyway,enjoyed the discussion. Nice chewing the fat with you.
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See, we CAN get along!
🙂
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Does anyone know if has Sasser denied or admitted to it?
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Gulebian heard nothing directly. As of last night, Sasser has not confirmed nor denied the allegation. The investigation is ongoing. And as usual, Sasser has been prematurely prosecuted and found guilty. Let the process run its course. Duke Lacrosse.
***not commenting directly to you Hardcore
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Two others did hear something directly.
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“Two others did hear something directly.” – and that resulted in them confronting Sasser and that led to the policeman being called who stood facing Sasser for the rest of the game. It was a big fucking deal.
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I actually think “the most important thing” is that students/peers called him out and went after him in the right way for his racist, dipshit behavior. It is nice to see them saying they will not tolerate this shit at their and our university. We are always going to have people like this in our midst. It is important to call them out and let them know that their behavior has consequences. Kudos to those kids.
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Enter the “wait for all the facts” guy, looking for anything to grasp onto for an excuse.
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Well then, let’s just crucify the mother fucker right now! Why even investigate?
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Look closely at your words, Chilli. Tex has a great point that I think, after reading other posts you have typed, contradicts what you have espoused. You have clear words of agreement with my thinking most times, but that wasn’t one of them.
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Nah. You see, I’m making a not-so-veiled reference to the standard refrain anytime something happens involving a racially motivated offense. Example: Cop shoots unarmed black man in the back. Excuse maker: “wait for all the facts.” That excuse maker is not really withholding judgment because he wants to wait for all the facts, he’s waiting for something he can latch on to and use as an excuse – “oh, well, the guy had weed in his car.”
Exactly what facts are you waiting for here? Multiple people were there and heard this. What “alternative facts” in your opinion would absolve Sasser of being an asshole here?
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I get it, Chili. Similar to the way excuse makers like you want to wait for all the facts when an act of terror is committed. Holding your breath all the while and hoping like hell it’s a white conservative.
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The jury has spoken and the guilty verdict is in. Kudos to UGA and its decision. Moving along.
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I think Sasser should have to spend 10 minutes in the football lockerroom with no coaches present.
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Oy, you just don’t say that word in public. It was nice knowing you Adam. OTOH we all suffer offense in this life. There is no secret or non-secret club of people who breeze through. The parade of virtue signaling is quickly going to be tiresome but I guess it’s gotta be done.
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It’s a whole lot easier not to say it in public if you teach yourself not to say it even to yourself. Whatever happens, this kid is about to get it good and hard. The question is whether he decides he was in the wrong or everybody “picking on him” is.
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True. And I hear the word all the time from my African-American friends. I always tell them that’s not even a real word because J. Jackson had it struck from the dictionary years ago. In any case you don’t want to get it stuck in your head and let it slip. Not good.
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and that goes for both sides.
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No, it does not.
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Sure it does, why should there be a double standard?
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It’s not a double standard. The n word signifies white supremacy. If a white man says “white power” it’s not the same as a black man saying it. Simple as that. One is problematic, one is a joke.
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JEEBUS…in your mind that may be true. Use it all you want, IDGAS.
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I’m I white guy so I don’t use it. I think you missed my point somehow.
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Not surprised…
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Thanks I guess?
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You don’t say that word. Period. It’s not a public vs private issue. As for the rest of your post I have no idea what you’re talking about but “virtue signaling” sounds like something Trump, Jr. would say.
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Virtue signaling is when imperfect people proclaim their superiority in public, and frequently use it as a club against others. Pharisees, let he who is without sin,etc.
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A fancier name for “whataboutism” in other words.
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I’m just glad Trump doesn’t ever judge or criticize people.
Or he’s without sin so he can get away with it.
One of the two applies I’m sure.
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Virtue signaling is a real thing, I’ll grant you that, and it’s tiresome.
Calling this kid out for yelling “Put the n***** in!” over and over from the stands ain’t virtue signaling.
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I would disagree. If you delve into the true meaning of that word the essence of it’s history is white people proclaiming their superiority of black people.
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What the fuck are y’all talking about? You people are talking like this is a word you say in private all the time. I always suspected it, but damn, y’all are just copping to it.
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I can’t see how anyone can justify saying the word. It is used for effect and when a reaction is desired. I’m 57 and heard it every day growing up and still hear it almost daily. It should never be used at all, whether in private or public.
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Where or who do you live with to hear it almost daily? I’m in a big city, and that is not the case here.
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Nor is it the case in most big cities where I have worked; but small places , counties and even segments of states and of this country where I have lived have been open about their racial expressions and even more so since Trump has taken office.
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I work in Covington. My work brings me in contact with every race and class of people there are. I bristle at hearing the word and always ask the one who says it to stop. I guess because I look like a good old boy they are comfortable with saying it. I hear it from every race, none of them have the market cornered on ignorance.
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The only time that word ever comes out of my mouth is when I am singing along with some old school rap. Dr Dre, Snoop and a lot of my other homies from the 90s. Those songs do not work as well without it. Just sayin…..
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I’d have never have dated that car as a ’39 model.
I wonder how it’s streamline would look if examined in a modern wind tunnel.
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Sasser is a complete idiot. Given his age, he’s grown up knowing that word is obscene and should not be used. Unfortunately, that is apparently a part of his character. He needs to go (IMO).
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Great comment on the recruiting. Just like that….Jadon Haselwood decommits….I have no idea that this played a role in the decommitment but it sure as hell didn’t help. I know he and Justin were pretty tight.
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Haselwood has been looking elsewhere for 6 months now (“soft commit”). I would probably more likely chalk it up to “I don’t want to play in a system that throws it 20 times a game.”
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I agree. Not to mention the fact that the receiver room is packed and it appears it is difficult to get on the field.
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Maybe he doesn’t want to block downfield?
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Yeah, I understand imposing your will on a team, but damn, what happened to the flea flicker bomb to start the game against Miss State? We have the dudes to light them up through the air, I don’t understand the thought process behind full run commitment. I wouldn’t want to play for this offense either if I was a receiver. I don’t mind blocking, but if I’m the best player on the field you better put it up in the air and let me do my thing.
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No one should be guessing what the penalty is. Just go to the handbook and see what the rule is. It isnt hard. He shouldnt get a pass, but he shouldnt given extra punishment so Smart can recruit a little easier.
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Losing him from the baseball team would be an enormous blow. I hope they find a way to get the point home without resorting to kicking him off. Besides, I think a suspension would be a punishment that fits the crime.
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I can remember two examples of football players who were insolent to their professors and Coach sent them packing. I don’t recall anybody having a problem with that including myself.
If it was as reported, how can this be any less serious?
I’m all for second chances so I’m not saying he can’t earn his way back, but (if true) he has to go and seek redemption.
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Let’s ignore, for a moment, the fact that Sasser directed his comment at a member of the football team and focus strictly on the baseball team. Sasser has black teammates, does he not? Doesn’t it stand to reason that such racist comments—even if not directed at his own baseball teammates (whom he’d regard as “the good ones,” I’m sure)—would have a negative effect on team chemistry? And if Sasser doesn’t get the book thrown at him, wouldn’t that indicate that a certain level of racism will be tolerated from baseball players as long as they can hit?
Going without Sasser’s talents would hurt the baseball team in the short term, but letting him off lightly would hurt the team for much longer. Yank him for the rest of the season at minimum, and no, the “what about free speech” argument doesn’t need to be entertained here. The government has to tolerate bigotry, but baseball coaches don’t.
And with that, let this be the only Playpen comment I ever write.
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Not if I can help it. 😉
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This is right. Being a loudmouth is a different issue than being a toxic member of the baseball squad. If I’m Strick I sit him down and explain why it’s in his best interests to apologize and leave the team and if he doesn’t, I’d cut him.
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Fuck what losing him from the team means. Sasser should not only be kicked off the team, he should be immediately expelled.
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It won’t affect recruiting. There isn’t a black kid in this country who doesn’t believe a majority of white people are thinking the word. One of them saying it out loud isn’t going to be considered special to Georgia.
As for Sasser, he’s grown up in a politics that thinks white men are under attack from n****** and feminist b******. In his head, he’s just fighting back. Defending what’s his. Standing his ground. Making America Great Again.
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The kid’s from Evans, Ga, isn’t he? He hasn’t been under attack from anyone.
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I have a relative, never voted Democrat in his life. His wife usually votes Republican, although not as reliably.
His neighbor put a huge Trump flag in his yard. Nice neighborhood, 4000 sf homes, many with pools. My relative couldn’t bring himself to vote for Trump. When his neighbor found this out, things turned frosty.
The neighbor wants them to trim a tree on their property that overhangs his yard. They politely said they would look into it.
The neighbor started yelling at them, calling them f****** liberal pussies, and said he would be packing from that point forward. Said he would shoot their dog if it came onto his property. Flipped them both off. Stormed into his house.
This shit ain’t rationale. And it ain’t economic.
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It’s MAGA!!
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there are extremes on both sides….
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That doesn’t sound made up and flagellant at all. It’s cases like this that demonstrate why N=1 means data. If some guy who voted for Trump is unhinged, we can credibly extrapolate that all Trump voters are unhinged and no Hillary voters are unhinged. That’s why Hillary was just telling it like it is with her “basket of deplorables” statement.
Good story, bro.
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Nice try, BF.
Believe what you want. You’re going to anyway.
It happened. I don’t need to make shit up to make that point. The question is why the anecdote bothers you so much.
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I’m sure it happened. It involved a Trump supporter, after all. And anecdotes don’t bother me at all. They’re all around us. Racist whites. Racist blacks. Racist homosexuals. Facist gay muslims. It’s what people think anecdotes signify that I find disturbing.
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You missed it, BigFart. Trump is unhinged and his followers emulate him, not the opposite. Funny that you would use the word “unhinged”.
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Unhinged politicians? Surely you jest!
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Maybe you should read the book “Unhinged”, written by one in the Trump administration before posting such a week argument.
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You’re arguing that unhinged now applies exclusively to Republicans? And any counter argument is weak? Seriously? Come on son!
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Your whataboutism doesn’t work when your side has discovered new depths of “unhinged” that we previously thought only existed in banana republics.
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Your faith in one party is completely unjustified. Trump is an asshole. But compared to LBJ, he’s a third-rate asshole at best. He’s a womanizer. But compared to JFK and Clinton, he’s a third-rate womanizer. And on and on.
There’s nothing new under the sun and there’s certainly nothing new in the White House.
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I am not loyal to any party. Unlike you. And your attempts to normalize Trump show what a complete fool you are.
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Again, you misread me. I’m not a Republican. I’m just a guy who recognizes that Democrats are hypocrites who are guilty of exactly the things they accuse Republicans of. And I’m also a guy who knows a bit about history. So when snowflakes cry about how Trump is literally the worst guy ever and the most racist and the most terrible and the rudest and they just need to hide under their bed until he’s gone, I can put things in the proper perspective. Historically, Trump’s just another asshole in a long line of assholes to occupy the White House. Try not to worry so much.
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Just telling like it is? I’ve only ever heard one candidate defended with that kind of phraseology, and it wasn’t Hillary.
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As someone who grew up in Columbia County on the 90s, it looks like the “redneck wannabe” contingent is still alive and well. Kids of doctors and engineers that often lived in gated communities, drove $50k trucks with suspension, mud tires, and a Browning sticker, and wore camaflouge.
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I live in Columbia County and it cracks me up because I grew up in a rural farming community where we all tried to dress so we did not look as poor and country-ass as we really were. These kids here all want to look like us, but we didn’t really want to look like that….lol…if that makes sense.
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(I think that’s his point)
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What did Justin Fields do to Sasser that required him to fight back?
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Obviously, he shouldn’t have used the word. I don’t think it should end his career at Georgia unless there’s a lot more going on that what I’ve seen, but if they want to suspend him for some games and subject him to diversity bullshit as punishment, that seems totally fair to me.
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How could we possibly want such a redneck on a racially diverse team at UGA? He signals to many that UGA doesn’t stand behind it’s racially inclusive words as long as he wears our insignia and shouts denigrative words. He stands for everything repugnant when using racial epithets that our University is against and he shouldn’t be in an institute of higher learning if he can’t learn such a basic moral stance in this modern era turned backwards momentarily by such utterances.
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He’s been on the team for two years without any issues as far as I know. It’s not like he was at a klan rally. He drunkenly threw out a racial slur. It’s gross and embarrassing, and it should carry some kind of punishment, but I don’t think it’s so egregious in itself that he should be kicked off campus. Now, if there’s more to it or some kind of pattern, that would be a different story.
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You do not “drunkenly throw out racial slurs” unless they are racial slurs that you use when you are also sober. Alcohol does not make people racist. It just removes your filter.
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That would depend on how drunk he was. If he was obliterated, it’s probably not how he normally thinks. If he was in that happy area where the brain is still mostly functioning, then yes, it would have more likely been a darker aspect of his actual self on display due to a lack of inhibitions.
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No it doesn’t.
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Well then.
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Bwahahahaha Sasser is from Evans, GA and played at Greenbriar, one of the large wealthy Columbia County high schools. So he’s from the rich part of the suburbs, i.e. from the land of fake rednecks where the houses are new, the boots aren’t muddy and the truck beds don’t have scratches. This shows, because he thinks he can use that word in public without someone knocking him out for it, which he would learn had he ever crossed the line into Richmond County. Instead, that word gets used for a special type of virtue signaling, along the lines of “I’m really country!” Should’ve just shut his trap and tried to get in on the next football team dove hunt. Hope Sasser enjoyed dragging the university into the mud, and degrading an athlete far superior to himself.
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I live in Richmond County. I got a good chuckle out of your description of Columbia County. There are lot of folks who live in Columbia county who are exactly as you described. They can play some baseball though.
Sasser is an asshole who touched the third rail. UGA needs to boot him and end this quickly.
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Do you know Sasser and is an asshole? Asking because I’m curious, not defending him. I don’t know a thing about him.
This is an investigation and we don’t know the conclusion yet . The story I read was the student that reported it didn’t actually hear it said.
Should be pretty easy to investigate and confirm.
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I don’t know Sasser personally so I actually don’t know if he is an asshole. If he said what has been attributed to him, then in my opinion, he is an asshole. If an investigation shows that he did not say those things, then he will have my sincere apology.
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I grew up in Richmond County (lower Augusta FTW!) and I too chuckled at that description of Columbia County.
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I grew up in Richmond County and graduated from ARC. When we moved back from the area we moved to Columbia County and my kids graduated from Lakeside. Both counties have plenty of rednecks.
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ARC? Well, that explains a few things.
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I was an army brat who lived near the Augusta Mall graduated in 1977. Not sure what you mean by your comment. Where did you go to high school maybe that will enlighten me?
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Westside ’73. Didn’t mean anything, just a little high school rivalry kidding.
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👍. Gotcha. We used to gripe we had to share our stadium with you and you had ac and we did not.
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I couldn’t believe we actually had AC at Westside. 10th grade was the first time I enjoyed AC. Kids nowadays have no idea.
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I remember having to wear dresses to school. Times have changed in that regard mostly for the better.
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Did not read your comment and replies to it before commenting above. So true!
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PCNA employee here. Glad you had a great time at Rennsport. It’s a huge endeavor for our crew, but man is it worth it!
I was able to get out to the track on Thursday. It’s an unbelievable gathering of cars and car people. Motortrend has extensive coverage (6+Hrs) at their youtube channel. – https://youtu.be/f6ffwPncGUk
Can’t wait for 7.
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This was my second Rennsport.
I can’t wait for 7, either.
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Don’t let all of this distract you from the fact that there is a student lead BLACKOUT for the game this Saturday. I mean, HOMECOMING, Vandy, Night game, BLACKOUT would be awesome. BLACK JERSEYS are a must right? I mean come on, break them out let the kids have some fun. We can still be business like with a slight smile on our faces. Like casual day at work. Yeah we all want to be Bama, but can’t we be Bama with a side of fun. I mean all work and no play make Homer go something, something.
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Go crazy?
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Don’t mind if I do
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Classic.
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I had forgotten about the feeling fine part. Awesome.
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+1
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Sasser is an idiot and should pay the price. If I’m the baseball coach, I’d suspend him, and then put him in front of the football and baseball team to explain why he said it.
I don’t follow NFL much, but I saw where Chubb blew it up this weekend. 105 yards on 3 carries, including TD runs of 60+ and 40+ yards. One run, he smoked a DB who thought he had the angle, and the second, he made a move behind the line to avoid one tackle, then broke the ankles of another DB in the secondary. Of course, being the Browns, they were absolutely screwed by the refs at the end of the game and managed to lose in OT.
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Chubb got 105 yards on just three touches. Nick sees action on special teams and is making the most of his limited opportunities.
Carlos Hyde (from Ohio State) is a local fan favorite and barring injury, it tough to crack the starting lineup.
But it’s nothing Nick hasn’t already seen at Georgia.
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I think Brett Kavanaugh should be confirmed. And if he isn’t he should run for president
There, that should take this somewhat civil discussion into the gutter
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Better to have partisans in politics than on the bench.
Of everything that’s happened, his lashing out at “the left” Is the worst in my mind.
Any court ought to be free of that sort of ideology and partisanship.
And, yes, that goes both ways. It would be just as unqualifying to me had it been the other way.
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Lashing out at those accusing you of a heinous crime for political purposes is excusable. If there were something impeachable in his rulings, you can bet the left would have seized on it. There’s not. It’s just the fact that he didn’t hit the Goldilocks level of an emotional defense that looks bad. Initially, he was too cool and detached. Then he was too hot and fiery. It’s almost like the goalposts were going to move to wherever he wasn’t.
And it’s humorous to suggest that you have equal standards for left and right. You’re a leftist shill. Period. Sexual assault is fine when it’s Clinton, Kennedy, or Ellison. As long as the predator is for higher taxes and open borders, women beware. Once again, you prove your complete lack of morality.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoNYbhwU0AAC-kU?format=jpg&name=small
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Sasser needs to be punished for the use of the n word. Whether the punishment is lose a season or get booted from the team should be up to his coach and teammates and what he can learn from the experience. The word needs to disappear altogether it’s use by black youths with another sends a mixed message to younger people. Ben Watson tells a story of going to the home of a teammate who had a confederate flag hanging in their bedroom. He explained why it was hurtful the teammate took it down. That type of discussion can cause real change.
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I happen to know Adam and his family and I am sure everyone involved is just sick about this. No person on this blog has not said a derogatory word at one time or another, so please don’t cast stones. He made a huge mistake and he will pay dearly. He meets today and I am sure a media report will follow.
There are always three sides to every story, let’s all chill and watch the process take place.
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I agree Bone. In the end hopefully he’ll be a better person and learn from this. Maybe he should sit out 10% of the next games, make appropriate apologies, and receive treatment if there is a drinking problem. Like you said, get all the facts first. Unless there’s more out there, I don’t see how you treat this kid any tougher than Jonathan Ledbetter was.
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Alcohol doesn’t make people racists. It just removes their filter.
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It sure removed Ledbetter’s to the point that he embarrassed himself, his family, and UGA. It removed his filters enough he passed out in the middle of an intersection and made crazy accusations against the officers.
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It ain’t on the same level, dawgfan.
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“No person on this blog has not said a derogatory word at one time or another”
I can say with 100% certainty I’ve never used that word to describe a person in public
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Good on you Jeff, good on you.
Adam was kicked off the team and made an example of…
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’89 930, ’97 turbo s, a 5′ 2 inch brunette and the DAWGS are the true loves in my world. Big guy upstairs and my sister make up my short list of all time greats.
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Discuss.
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Maybe they should have given him a carry or two when they were trying to run out the clock at the end.
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Yep. But they got screwed on that call with 1:30 left in the game. Guy obviously had the first down, even with the bad spot. Somehow they overturned it.
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I watched the replay. I don’t think they should have overturned it, but it did look like his elbow hit with the ball short of the first down. I’m just not sure there was irrefutable evidence of that.
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Fair enough.
Watched part of the NL wildcard game last night and there was a double play against the Rockies to end the 8th (I think). Guy at second was so obviously safe that even all the Cubs players just stood there, instead of heading to the dugout. Finally, they called for replay, looked at it, and called him out. It’s amazing what those replay officials see.
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You mean like the Chicago tv market going down the toilet?
The cubs strike zone was also noticeably larger IMO. Rockies pulled it out anyway. Rocktober vs. Choptober would be a fun NLCS.
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I am a car guy and Endurance racing is my 1st love having made the track for Petit LeMans every year, as well as multiple Sebring 12 hours and Daytona 24 trips. We will be at Petit again this year. You can’t be a fan of Sportscar racing and not respect Porsche. I’d love to make Rennsport or car week in Monterey such amazing machinery
Another photoblog I follow usually post some great pictures of Monterey and Rennsport with their most recent being:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2018/09/brace-yourselves-rennsport-reunion-is-coming/
In the spirit of Leach’s lost play calling script a story of a rogue Le Mans 24hr victory which to bring thing full circle involves a Georgia resident fabricating some trick parts:
http://sportscarpros.anamera.com/across-the-border-features-from-guests/features/what-it-takes-tony-dowe-on-winning-at-le-mans-with-jaguar/default.htm
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Senator- Creating the Playpen is one of the best things you have done for this blog. I can now read all the posts knowing the bickering will be football focused and not get into the shit show that is today’s political theater. I only read this today because I had no idea what this Sasser kid had done. Thank you again for your foresight.
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I can’t decide what to bitch about. So many choices.
But the race in Cali looks like an awesome time. Jealous.
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This Christine Ford/Brett Kavanaugh situation is fascinating to me. Getting past the emotions and politics of all this, do you let her testimony prevent him from serving on the court?
After her testimony, I kept hearing all the tv pundits, Senators, and even Trump say how credible she was. I’m not sure that is the right word- empathetic sure but we still don’t know how credible she is because no one asked her any real questions. She was treated her with kid gloves wrapped in a pillow.
There were several red flags that day that for me regarding Fords testimony. For example, did anyone catch that Ford couldn’t remember if she took a polygraph the day of her grandmother’s funeral or if it occurred the next day. How was that not followed up on in the line of questioning? That was just a few weeks ago – I think I would remember exactly how the day I buried my grandmother went.
Very frustrating situation if you really wanted answers. Basically, she got paraded in front of all America and we didn’t learn anything new other than what had been reported in her letter.
As far a Kavanaugh’s testimony I wasn’t a big fan of the crying. That, and also, saying the Democrats “completely destroyed my reputation” made him look a little weak – like it had already occurred and he can’t get back his good name.
Basically, this is a he said she said unless the FBI investigation comes back with something new.
What did you guys see that day?
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Well, I think you can dig shit up on pretty much anyone, especially if you go back to high school and college. But there are enough red flags on this guy for me, so why die on this hill? Go get the next asshole and nominate him/her. No need to drag this out further in my opinion.
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Just have the vote…
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Republicans want no part of a full scale FBI investigation into the situation, and they wanted no part of the other people supposedly present at the party where the alleged assault occurred being questioned. Which tells me that they don’t feel too confident that a high level of scrutiny would exonerate the accused SCOTUS nominee. They just want to push this nomination through as quickly as possible before the November elections so they can get rid of abortions.
On the flip side Dems just want to delay until after the elections so they can keep abortions, and they had the good fortune of Trump nominating an asshat the likes of Kavanaugh, who would neither confirm or deny whether he used to get blackout drunk as a student. Instead he fake cried from a prepared statement about his dad’s old calendars and lifting weights with his bros Tobin and Squee. He also misrepresented facts when he stated that everyone who was allegedly at the party said that the assault didn’t occur when all of them stated that they simply couldn’t remember, with one stating that she believed Ford. Whether innocent or guilty, is that the type of character we should reward with a promotion to the highest court in the land? He also flat out lied about the definition of a devils triangle which is a well known sex act tantamount to a gang bang.
As far as Ford goes, she didn’t come off as the brutish femi-nazi that the right wing was portraying. She didn’t seem like the type of person who would willingly uproot her life and subjugate herself to death threats in order to tow a political line or for publicity. In fact, it seemed like she went to great links to remain anonymous when she submitted the information prior to the nomination. As far as her memory goes, I’ve had grandparents die recently, and I definitely couldn’t give you a run down of my itinerary from that emotional day or the day after. Also, did it matter when she did the polygraph? The fact that she passed it was the most interesting factor IMO. Those things aren’t fool proof, but I can’t say that’s nothing.
I don’t have a problem with a conservative SCOTUS appointee, but I really hope this dude isn’t confirmed.
That said, a conservative appointee will likely favor the status quo of amateurism for those of you traditionalists. That could end up in a travesty imo, but I know many of you would salivate at the thought of continued subservience of the student athlete.
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lengths not links
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It seems to me that the whole anonimty request, followed by leaking by someone, turned the whole thing into a fiasco.
The real question for me is what we do about what we know:
He was a belligerent drunk who had terrible but somewhat typical attitudes towards women for that time 35 years ago.
I think he lied about “devil’s triangle” for sure and “boofed” maybe. Lying under oath for a judge is pretty bad. But my main issue is that his defense led him to show himself to be a political partisan.
That should be disqualifing.
We have the right to expect rulings that emanate from law, not from the DNC or the RNC. Even if there are disagreements they should be based on judicial philosophy, not political philosophy.
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As usual, you know even less than you think you do. He was a college kid who drank beer to the point of getting drunk. That means he’s typical. He had words with one dude while he was drinking beer. Again, typical. Then, one time in the 80s, he threw ice at somebody. SCARY!!!1!1!
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Then submit to a full FBI investigation and clear his name.
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He is. But what is the FBI going to uncover that the six previous background checks missed? The witnesses Ford named have all refuted her story. Do we need the FBI to ask them again if they’re really sure?
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No, he’s submitting to an inquiry in which the White House isn’t allowing him or the alleged victim to be interviewed.
The witnesses didn’t refute her story, they just said they don’t remember what happened 36 years ago. One of them even said they believe Ford.
I don’t know much about the protocol for federal investigations, but I do know that lying to the Feds will land your ass in prison. So yeah, asking them if they are really sure might change their story if in fact it needed to be changed.
On the flip side if Ford lies to the Feds she would go to jail. If you really believe Kavanaugh and hate libs you should want a full scale investigation imo.
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Given that Kavanaugh and Ford have already been questioned at length under oath, what would the FBI glean by questioning them again?
And yes, the witnesses refuted her story. Not only do they not remember an assault, they don’t even remember a party with the two of them together. So there is nothing there.
Everybody currently on the radar has submitted a statement under oath to Congress. That gets one in the same hot water as lying to investigators.
While I don’t really mind the FBI asking questions that have already been asked and answered, I do object to the Democrats’ plan to take off all restrictions and have an open-ended fishing expedition for months into every possible facet of Kavanaugh’s life. What about that time he threw ice at somebody in the 80s? I’m sure he did some shit in the 70s as well!
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I’m in my early 30’s and don’t remember half the stuff I did in high school and I didn’t even drink. Not remembering a party that would have been inconsequential to anyone not involved in the assault doesn’t prove anything. Neither do the lollipop questions from both sides of that inquiry last week. Let’s get some sharp toothed investigation coming from both sides. If anyone lied lock them up.
Republicans delayed Obama so this is simple par for the course in politics. Republicans just want to rush it through before the mid terms for the same reason dems want to delay. Apparently both sides think dems are going to pick up some seats.
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It’s true that we can’t prove a negative. So it’s possible, even though nobody can testify to it, that Kavanaugh was on the grassy knoll when JFK was assassinated.
But investigations and legal proceedings don’t work that way. Accusations rely on corroboration. Sometimes, corroboration is strong and we have DNA, video evidence, or a confession. Sometimes, it’s weak and we have circumstantial evidence that two people were together at a specific place and time, but that’s all that can be said for certain. In this case, it’s nonexistent. The witnesses Ford relies on can’t put Ford and Kavanaugh together at any place at any time. Ford’s statements to the press, to Finestein, and the Judiciary Committee have inconsistencies. I seriously doubt the FBI, or anyone else, could construct a coherent narrative about what might have happened 36 years ago.
But you’re correct about the reasoning behind both sides wanting to delay vs move forward. The difference I see is that moving forward is the more decent action as opposed to letting unsubstantiated, unprovable, decades-old allegations hijack the process.
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The question to me is did he do it or not. Maybe we can’t know for sure, but I’m interested in really putting relevant person’s feet to the fire to see if we can find anything tangible. I don’t think Ford is lying, she passed the polygraph, but if she is then put her in jail for all I care. I just want the truth. No partisanship. There’s a lot of smoke around Kavanaugh. Let’s put Tobin and Squee on the stand.
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The other issue is what level of evidence do we require to investigate a case of alleged teenage groping almost four decades old. Ford is the only accusation that is remotely credible. But she has nothing to bolster her story. Polygraph tests are unreliable is general and this specific one is nonsensical. Swetman’s accusations are farcical.
I get wanting the guilty to hang. But due process should apply even to Supreme Court nominees.
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Supreme Court Justices should never be “typical”
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Even when they were children? We expect justices to be life long teetotalers? Seems unrealistic.
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High school kid
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I was against the Kavanuagh nomination BEFORE any of these allegations came out, on the grounds that he was chosen for no other reason than because of his written opinions that you cannot prosecute a sitting President of crimes. I’m sorry, but that’s nowhere in the Constitution. Don’t tell me you’re a Constitutionalist and then make shit up to serve the interests of the state. And that is consistent with who Brett kavanaugh is, given his lack of regard for the 4th amendment.
His dishonesty and overt partisanship is just the icing on the cake.
But here’s the thing – Republicans know it would be easy and just as good for them to withdraw him and get another nominee confirmed. Someone just as conservative. But they don’t want that. They see the poll numbers, and they know they’re losing on every issue. This confirmation battle is the only thing they have to whip up their base right now. They don’t care that Kavanaugh isn’t a good choice. They care that they can grandstand over it and whip the idiotic Trump base into a frenzy over it. Lindsay Graham delivered a performance so absurd on its face it could only happen in 2018. But this is where we are now.
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He’d know something about destroying people’s reputations.
His aggressive demeanor and his record leave my non-plussed. But then, I wouldn’t support anyone DT puts forward on principle. Not that it matters. I’m not a Senator.
Although it’s curious to me that we aren’t concerned about waiting a month (as opposed to, what was it, three? four? six? months?) to hear from the electorate before we put it up. (It’s not actually curious to me at all, just par for the course). I can’t believe McConnell and them are so worried about losing the Senate after lining up behind their boy.
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Excuse all the typos in the above thread- hard to compose a long comment on this damn iPhone 6.
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True I remember when girls only could wear dresses. The times have changed.
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That should be to Gurkha Dawg
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BTW: If you received in today’s equivalent of $413 million from your father’s real estate holdings and $60.7 million in loans (or $140 million in today’s dollars) would you have more or less than 4 bankruptcies?
As I’m on 0 bankruptcies and inherited somewhat less than .001% of that total I think I’d be a “bigly” president.
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If you have 100’s of millions or billions ,like old man Trump did,you have people who take care of your estate planning and that is all that any of this is. This Times article accuses Trump of evading and /or avoiding taxes. These reporters are some anal retentive idiots. One is illegal (evading)and one is not(avoiding) but running those two together just shows a complete lack of objectivity. It strikes me that a) if POTUS was engaging in complex tax fraud as an 8 yea old we should all consider yourselves lucky to have such a genius as our President, b) this story is timed to avoid having to talk about the fact that both the Muller and Kavanaugh investigations are coming up with big zeros from the Times point of view and c) you would think that the Times would understand that the vast majority of America (admittedly not people in NY or numerous posters here) view the Times as a partisan rag and attacks like this only confirm that predisposition and galvanize Trump’s base. When you sling more shit at a shit monster he just gets bigger and bigger. (This is a corollary of the theory of holes)
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If I may pat myself on the back. . .
Three years ago, I took my girlfriend to the Vandy game in Nashville (her first SEC game.) At some point in the 3rd quarter, after a drop by one of our receivers (don’t remember who) someone ( a Georgia ‘fan’) a couple of rows below us shouted ” I bet he wouldn’t drop it if it were a watermelon.” The crowd around us was noticeably uneasy. I shouted back something to the effect of “Shut the hell up, that was totally uncalled for.” People applauded.
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Since the PlayPen is the best place for this, here’s how I filter current events.
Whenever I hear a news story or report about “President Trump”, I substitute “President Obama” and ask myself how I feel about it. Try it sometime, it’s enlightening. . .
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Well said.
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Well done UGA.
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Glad they didn’t waste any time sending the little turd packing. Hope he leaves Athens posthaste.
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Let’s string and quarter him while we are at it. Ruining his life would make us all feel better.
Your glass house could use some Windex Chili…….
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No. That’s what we did to THOSE people: https://museumandmemorial.eji.org/
You (and everyone else) should go see it. There you can see what lynching is really all about.
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Sorry pal but it was not I that made any mention of lynching. Check out Braveheart this evening on Netflix, you will see what I meant.
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Technically, while primitive, William Wallace was tried no differently than many of his countrymen at the time.
http://www.thesocietyofwilliamwallace.com/wallacetrial.htm
Lynchings, pal, have no such official proceedings or record.
Also, of note, that trial was in 1305 some 6 and half centuries before the last lynching victim..
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Hell, why didn’t you go the full monty and compare him to the monsters who ran this joint.
http://auschwitz.org/en/history/
You morons are not able to make any distinction whatsoever.
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Thanks Dude….I think I will retire from this play pen. We all could learn a lesson from what Adam did. This young man will have a very tough row to hoe going forward and he should be in our thoughts and prayers. He is a DGD, he made a mistake, it’s his cross to bare.
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I hope he redeems himself. I really do.
No one wants to see anyone destroyed permanently but he crossed a line and this thing was in him somewhere, for some reason. That’s why it came out to play.
He needs to own it, exorcise it and move forward.
The school did the right thing here. Now Adam needs to step up for himself, his family and the people like you that know him and are pulling for him.
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Huh? You’ve got it exactly backwards.
The issue is whether 86BONE’s sarcasm that we might as well hang and then draw and quarter Sasser is a fair comment. He’s the full monty here dude.
Reading dude. Reading. Try it sometime.
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Are you fucking serious you twit…no one but YOU mentioned hanging anyone. You with CNN or something….Get your facts straight or shut the fuck up!
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Letting your emotions get away with you? This was you right?:
“October 3, 2018 at 5:01 PM
Let’s string and quarter him while we are at it. Ruining his life would make us all feel better.
Your glass house could use some Windex Chili…….”
No one but me mentioned hanging? What is the string then? You know Wallace (you brought him up at 5:19 above) was hung initially right? That was the first thing they did to him. Says so right there in the transcript I sent you.
Twit.
Since my facts are all on point I’ll continue with your kind permission.
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I love when the closet racists come out to bitch about mild repercussions for racist behavior and equate them to actual executions like the lynchings that racists used to carry out on the people their racist behavior is directed toward. The death throes of white privilege are fierce.
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“String” is pulling entrails out…quartering is chopping limbs off….get your shit in one sock if you want to fuck with me
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Ok. I’ve always thought “stringing him up meant” hanging but the shit in a sock thing is new to me to do what do I know? However, how is disembowelment less over the top than hanging?
It seems you’ve gone more over the top than I was suggesting not less.
And that was my only point. Your sarcastic reference to torture, of whatever flavor, takes victimhood to ridiculous levels in this instance.
Everyone knew this is where we’d be if the allegation were true.
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Why are you such a pussy?
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I was skeptical of the Playpen at first – I didn’t really see the genius of it . And, it has grown on me.
So funny.
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Sasser is someone UGA does not need on campus. I don’t care if he has 60 home runs and a 800 batting average..
Also Senator, I am glad you enjoyed the Nazi car race…
sounds like fun..
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Initially, I agreed with yanking Sasser for the same reason that I agree with not bringing back the Kennesaw State cheerleaders- they’re dividing and offending their respective fan bases. Now, I’m not so sure on either issue. What if instead of this, an athlete was recorded in a debate with someone on the Tate Center Plaza’s free speech platform in which he affirmed the New Testament (or Tanach’) teaching on sexuality. Many would have no problem labeling such a confession of religious teaching hate speech. Would any of you trust some administrator at a state institution to make a distinction between this and what Sasser did?
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Every incident should be taken on its own merit. I’m tired of everything being shoehorned into some grand national narrative by everyone. Sasser’s expulsion was an overreaction, but what he did should have carried consequences. The example you’re describing should carry no repercussions. If it did, there would be justified outrage, but it’s all purely hypothetical.
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Sorry, I should have said dismissal instead of expulsion.
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