So much for patience, grasshopper.

Interesting timing for this news, to say the least.

Highly touted quarterback Justin Fields has notified Georgia he intends to transfer, a person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the school has not yet acknowledged the transfer.

It’s a little weird, as Seth Emerson explains.

Assuming it plays out as Wolken indicates, I can’t help but wonder whether this is motivated by Jake Fromm indicating that he’s planning on staying four years, or simply basic frustration over the way Fields was deployed this season.

According to Wolken,  Fields is planning to appeal to the NCAA to be eligible this coming season.  While I’m not sure what grounds he’s asserting for that, I would think wanting to play immediately is more about Fromm’s future than anything, because were Fromm to leave early for the NFL, if Fields doesn’t get the NCAA waiver, he wouldn’t be starting elsewhere any sooner than he would in Athens.

More to come, obviously.

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143 responses to “So much for patience, grasshopper.

  1. Hobnail_Boot

    But, who will panic during fake punts now?

    (sarcasm meters on, folks)

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  2. Yurdle

    Hate it. Selfishly, I wish it weren’t happening. But I’m not surprised, and I can’t ask for Justin to do anything other than what he thinks is best.

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  3. anon

    That’s how good Fromm is. He has now made 2 five star QB’s leave.

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  4. D as in Dawg

    I think it’s a dumb move but it’s his to make. Welcome to the new age. Wonder what effect this will have on current recruits.

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  5. He isn’t going to get a hardship transfer unless it’s to Georgia State or Fech to be closer to home. Therefore, he’s sitting wherever he goes.

    His sister is coming to play softball. If all of this is true, why would he be participating in bowl practice. Doesn’t make sense to me.

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  6. Derek

    If he’s looking for a waiver…Tech??!

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  7. TC405

    If true, what a pussy.

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  8. Bo

    Bye. I just can’t get that upset about it. He hasn’t been good enough to take the job away from Fromm, and he apparently doesn’t think he’ll be able to any time soon. Next man up.

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  9. dawgfan

    I wonder which SEC schools would love to have Fields and Hazlewood together next year? I can think of at least a couple.

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  10. doofusdawg

    Time to lawyer up.

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  11. Bright Idea

    Many on this blog routinely advocate for player freedom. It’s the new age of college football. If he leaves some will bash him but I hope most of us don’t. What would we say if a 5-star QB wanted to transfer to us?

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    • Turd Ferguson

      There is a difference between “bashing” him and simply pointing out how nonsensical the decision would be. Eason made sense. This does not.

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    • playmakers in space

      I’m not out to bash him, but could the timing be any worse? Why did he commit to us in the first place? He knew what the situation was. He clearly wasn’t ready to be the starter this year. He almost certainly will have to sit out next season. What is the rationale here?

      Just a huge bummer. I was looking forward to him developing and lighting things up in 2020.

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      • Russ

        Actually would rather learn it now than AFTER signing day when we push our QB recruit to hold off for a blueshirt.

        I wish he’d stay but I’ll wish him luck wherever he wins up (until he plays us, of course).

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  12. Turd Ferguson

    Of course, I’m concerned about our depth. But … if this is true, he’s some combination of painfully stupid and shamefully narcissistic. In which case: good fucking riddance.

    But again, our depth. Ugh.

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    • Derek

      I don’t how it’s that stupid if chances are he’s riding pine for the next two seasons. I wouldn’t want to sit 3 and play 1 either.

      I’d rather he made a different choice but I’m not mad at the kid.

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      • Turd Ferguson

        Unless Fromm has made some private declaration/promise that he’s staying 4 years, he’s a likely 1st rounder after next season. And as the Senator points out, in that case, Fields wouldn’t be starting elsewhere any sooner than he would in Athens. So, on the assumption (until I’m proven otherwise) that Fromm goes pro after next season, this could only be Fields refusing to play second fiddle for the 2019 season.

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        • Derek

          I think you’re wrong about 11’s pro prospects. He’s unlikely to go after next year because he’s probably a 3rd round or later guy. He may make it but there’s not that many small, slow pocket qbs in the league. Only one Brees. On talent Murray was a better prospect and he went 3rd round after 4 seasons and never played a regular season snap.

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          • Murray went in the 5th round and is at least an inch shorter than Fromm.

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          • Turd Ferguson

            Fair enough. I just flatly disagree with you about this, and I guess we’ll have to wait and see what the future holds. Barring injury, I bet he goes in the first or second round. Even by your own reasoning, though, Fromm would be wisest to take whatever pro grade he gets after next season, since he’s not likely to grow much taller or get much faster between 2019 and 2020.

            Again, it all comes down to whether or not Fromm has made explicit to Fields and the coaching staff that he already intends to stay through 2020. If he has, then I retract what I say here about Fields, and don’t really blame him for the decision. But if he hasn’t, I stand by what I said.

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          • PTC DAWG

            Not what the experts think…

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          • Thorn Dawg

            Murray was 5’11” and threw too many picks. Fromm is a 1st round pick in 2020.

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  13. TMC DAWG

    Fromm is the man today tomorrow and until his eligibility is exhausted.

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  14. Hobnail_Boot

    This only further cements my love for D.J. Shockley.

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  15. Will

    I wish the best place for him was at Georgia, but I can’t hate on the kid for doing what he thinks is best for himself. Especially at the QB position, he’s got to be all about #1.

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  16. Mike Cooley

    I know I’m supposed to be panicking but I just don’t care that much.

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    • Derek

      If I thought Fromm couldn’t be hurt I’d be less concerned. But he can.

      Also I think whoever plays Fields for an entire season is going to be very hard to beat. Not too many guys with power, speed and a rifle.

      He’s got some growing to do, but when he’s ready, he’s gonna be a star.

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      • Mike Cooley

        Well Fromm being able to be hurt is no front page news obviously. But we will recruit another good quarterback. We don’t seem to have any problem doing that. And Fields won’t be going to play for a rival. And if he honestly thinks he should start over Fromm despite all Fromm has done the last two years, yeah no, I don’t care if he leaves.

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  17. Jim

    In Kirby we trust

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  18. Coweta Dawg

    I understand he’s doing what he thinks is best for him. What I don’t get is why he chooses 2 days before early signing to do this. That ain’t right.

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    • playmakers in space

      Exactly. Two weeks ago? Fine, see ya’, best of luck. Two weeks from now? OK, no problem. But holy shit is this bad timing.

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    • stoopnagle

      He didn’t make the announcement. That was Dan Wolken citing an unnamed person. Right now, Justin Fields is practicing with the team and by all accounts doing his best. If he is having private conversations with his family and the coaches, that makes total sense. Don’t bang on him for the timing when he’s got nothing to do with it.

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  19. The Dawg abides

    I’m afraid I can guess what grounds the appeal will be on. And in today’s hypercharged climate, the NCAA will pass that red hot potato off quick. This family could really end up killing the program’s momentum. Hope I’m wrong.

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    • What do you mean? Some drunk baseball player yelling in the student section? The school handled that swiftly and decisively. Sorry but that would be ridiculous, and this doesn’t address the fact his sister is coming to Georgi next year.

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  20. CPark58

    Sucks not to have the depth but the college window is so small you got to go where you have the best chance to play just like the coaches have to play the guy who gives the team the best chance to win. I wish him the best in his endeavors.

    I’m honestly not worried about him as long as Fromm is upright. Dude has lost 4 games in his first two years out of high school and two of those were last minute to Alabama. UGA is gonna be fine. Fields will play a year and win a natty for Cameron S. Newton Junior College in Texas before transferring to Oklahoma or somewhere. UGA may face him one time (with a stacked defense) in the playoffs in 2020 and then he’s gone to the NFL anyway.

    I’m not sure it’s possible to have a stable of 5 star quarterbacks unless they are 2-3 years apart. If you can get them to commit, great but you have to know this is probably how it’s going to end more often than not.

    Greene/Shockley arrangements are ideal but super rare as I can’t think of another instance like that anywhere. Leak/Tebow situations are probably the best you can hope for but I’d take Murray/Mason type cycles every time.

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    • playmakers in space

      You can only keep two stud QBs on the roster with roughly the same eligibility if you’re Alabama. Because Lord knows they could use a few more breaks.

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  21. Ellis

    Fields never grasped the offense. Frankly, I bought the hype and was disappointed. My guess he goes to OU or Penn State. With the qb’s we have coming in and Fromm at the controls it’s no big loss if he transfers.

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    • Uglydawg.

      Think he’d want to go to a conference where they don’t play pressing defense. His problems seem to come when they come after him…and it didn’t take long for DCs to figure that out. The way he was used this year didn’t help.

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  22. The Dawg abides

    Stranger things have happened. Just my own speculation on a loophole for a waiver. Again, hope like hell im wrong.

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  23. ASEF

    Looking back at what Bama’s 2017 class did on the field, and how prominently they used some true freshman this year, I was seriously disappointed in the way the 2018 class was used this year. Apparently Fields was too.

    Developing and retaining elite depth is damn hard. And this is why.

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    • Tony Barnfart

      we had true freshman make starts at OL, DL, Safety/Star, and Corner with tons of linebackers and other getting reserve action. Cade May, Trey Hill and Jordan Davis did pretty well.

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  24. Otto

    It is Wolken, I’ll wait for a more reliable source.

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  25. All I can say is that I understand if he leaves, but the timing is bad. It must suck to think you are the baddest man on the planet at QB only to find out you are not as good as everyone told you. At least not yet. Best of luck to him.

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  26. illinidawg

    And after Kirby covering for him when he should have called time out.

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  27. Salty Dawg

    I wish this was happening (if true) to AL and not us!

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  28. W Cobb Dawg

    The skill sets of Fields and Fromm couldn’t be more different. That could be a huge advantage, but it seems we’ll never find out. Other than using Fields in the wild Dawg, it was clear Chaney made the choice he isn’t going to adapt the offense to better use Fields’s abilities. I think it sucks if Fields leaves, because he has talent we’re going to need in some capacity to get us over the hump.

    SOS showed he could adapt to an RPO approach when he had Conner Shaw. Chaney never showed any desire to adapt. If Fields were to stay, I’m sad to say his talent might go to waste. Can’t say I blame him.

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    • We run RPOs where the QB has the ability to make the call based on what he sees. Fields said he picked UGA because he wanted to play in a system that would prepare him for the pros.

      If people have a problem with the way Chaney deployed him, fine, but we never were going to change the offense to Ohio State’s spread option or to Oklahoma’s Air Raid.

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      • W Cobb Dawg

        Offenses need to adjust. The second half of both bama games serve as a prime example of what happens when an offense doesn’t adjust. The skill sets of Leak and Tebow were nearly polar opposites. Yet corch and mullen were able to find a way to maximize each player’s production when they entered the game – and ended up winning a championship. My point is I regret we didn’t find some ways to use Fields more creatively and productively. I have no idea whether Fields will ever be a pro QB. But he does possess skills we could’ve used to get us over the hump.

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        • Russ

          Yeah, if Fields does leave, that’s what I will regret. We didn’t use his skills at all.

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        • No doubt … Leak and Tebow coexisted only because Leak was a senior and Tebow a true freshman. Tebow understood and accepted his role in the offense as a change of pace, but Leak was mobile enough to run the offense the way Corch and Mullet wanted. If Leak had been a sophomore and Tebow a freshman, no way would both have stayed.

          No one has said what we should have done on December 1 in the 2nd half other than keep the foot on the gas. The offense scored enough to win the game (and would have won the game with similar output in January). No one wants to call out the fact the defense gave up 21 points to the backup QB that we exposed in January.

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          • ASEF

            It was 14 points, not 21. And Hurts has clearly improved as a passer. He wouldn’t pull the trigger on those passes last year.

            That said, in two 4th quarters, Alabama has run 20 more plays, averaged 2 yards better a play, and outscored Georgia 24-0. That’s not depth or talent. That’s momentum and coaching,

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  29. Gurkha Dawg

    I was saying in September that Fields would be gone in December. I stopped talking about it because people were saying that I was putting down Fields. I think Fields is going to be great, just didn’t think he could beat out Fromm. Fields didn’t come here to sit. There was no way he was going to sit in 2019. Ray Charles could see this coming.

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    • RangerRuss

      Don’t treat me so mean.

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    • Turd Ferguson

      “There was no way he was going to sit in 2019.”

      Barring some unprecedented decision from the NCAA, he’ll be sitting in 2019 if he transfers.

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      • Unless he goes the JC route or for some crazy reason decides to go to an FCS or lower school … not saying I believe that’s what he’s going to do, but that would be the only alternative to getting an NCAA waiver.

        As I’ve mentioned earlier, I see no grounds for the NCAA to grant a hardship waiver without absolutely letting the genie out of the bottle.

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  30. Turd Ferguson

    Even less coherent than Fields’ decision to transfer is the reaction I’m seeing from some Georgia fans, which is essentially: “Since our coaches didn’t utilize him as well as they could’ve, I actually hope he leaves.”

    Yes, let’s definitely hope that Georgia is crippled by a complete absence of depth at the most important position on the field, effectively ruining any and all hope of success in 2019 if Fromm gets hurt (not to mention possibly killing all of our current recruiting momentum), all because we’ve got a bug up our ass about Chaney’s play-calling.

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    • Junior

      Holy hell, I have seen the same shit! I gotta believe these are either trolls, or extremely unintelligent or possibly very young fans. Makes zero sense. I’ve gotten into debates with a few. Arguing with morons is a losing battle.

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    • Russ

      I certainly don’t want him to leave but if he does I’m not going to call him a pussy, or a narcissist or anything else. I’ve seen several fans doing such and it is low class.

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      • Turd Ferguson

        To lump “pussy” and “narcissist” into the same category here is plain stupid, Russ. One is a derogatory term. One is a descriptor, referring to a very particular sort of motivation for behavior. If — and, to repeat, I’m saying if — Fields is transferring because he’d rather ride the bench somewhere else for a year, per transfer rules, than play second fiddle to Fromm for another season, he’s a narcissist.

        You can either praise the “team first” attitude that football is supposed to foster or you can have this “more power to ’em” attitude when players transfer for more spotlight. But you can’t do both.

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  31. Texas Dawg

    While I would prefer that he stay, if he is going to become a locker room distraction then he needs to move on. Sometimes the most talented player is not the best player. He has more natural talent then Fromm, but at this point he is clearly not the best QB option. From the moment from stepped onto the field last year, Fromm seemed to have a firm grasp of the offense and could read a defense. At the same stage in their careers, Fields does not seem to have that.

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  32. Blinding Whiff

    Is it possible someone asked Fromm to decide if he’s going to stay, and if so tell Fields before signing day, in order to free up a QB scholarship ??

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  33. doofusdawg

    Tommy Mars threatening to turn UGA into next Donald Trump. Hope you left wing lawyers are happy. Communication came from Mars directly to adgm.

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  34. Ldawg

    Justin was told before his commitment that we play the players who give us the best chance to win, no one’s job is safe. And that he would have to compete for playing time.

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  35. Mayor

    FWIW I think it’s a mistake for several reason. Fields could play up to 4 games next year and still redshirt. He could effectively be the backup like Hutson Mason was and not lose a season of eligibility. Maybe Fromm goes pro early, maybe not. If Fromm does leave after his junior year Fields is the likely starter for 3 seasons. He could try to beat out Fromm for next year. Fields clearly was not ready to start this season so what’s the beef? Also, I agree with the Senator that absent some real funny happenings Fields isn’t getting a waiver to play anywhere other than Tech or GA State and I don’t see either in the cards for him. What is his other option to play immediately— a D-IAA school like KSU? No way! He’s better off staying in Athens.

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  36. Texas Dawg

    If I am a top tier QB in this recruiting cycle, I would hold off on any commitment until this plays out. You can still sign in January and if you are top tier they will hold you a spot. Especially if I am a pro style QB, I would be salivating at being protected by that line AND having a killer running game so the play action is effective. Even w/o Hazelwood, the WR group is top shelf as well. Redshirt and you would have 3 and possibly 4 years of being the TOP DAWG

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    • This is interesting. I doubt we flip anybody significant but you’re right. If Fields left it would be an opportunity for yet another number one quarterback to come.

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    • artful codger

      I’m sure Harrison Bailey is watching closely

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    • stoopnagle

      If Justin decides to stay, then we don’t have to have Plumlee in so early and maybe the blueshirt option is resolved. I’m thinking that move was because Justin started talking about his plans and Kirby knows he needs 2 QBs and all this talk about “gotta have someone in January” cranked up. It sounds like the kid in Hawaii is leaning USC now (can’t blame him with KK there now — but they did start a true frosh this year).

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  37. Hooba Stank

    𝕱𝖎𝖊𝖑𝖉𝖘 𝖎𝖘 𝖌𝖔𝖓𝖊?

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  38. Bye momentum. This is much bigger than a selfish QB who wears #1 and never REALLY wanted to be here. It’s bigger than losing QB depth.

    Don’t be surprised when the bad decisions by this staff have the trickle down because they already are. People were quick to dismiss the concern over the bad game decisions. Well those are just the ones you see.

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  39. illinidawg

    A source told ESPN that Fields practiced Monday and is expected to play with the No. 5 Bulldogs against No. 15 Texas in the Allstate Sugar Bowl on New Year’s Day (8:45 p.m. ET, ESPN).

    “[Fields transferring] is a possibility, but we expect him to play in the Sugar Bowl,” the source said. “It’s not done. He practiced [Monday] and practiced his ass off. He’s going to explore what’s out there. He might come back.”

    The source said that Fields and his father have had multiple meetings with Bulldogs coach Kirby Smart about his future over the past few weeks, and that Fields hasn’t formally requested a transfer, nor has he been placed in the NCAA’s transfer portal, which notifies other schools that he’s interested in leaving.

    Sources told ESPN that Fields might consider Florida State, Ohio State and Oklahoma if he decides to leave.

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    • stoopnagle

      I get Ohio State.

      Does he have a death wish? Florida State? They don’t have an OL.

      Oklahoma is loaded at QB. It’s an even worse situation from a depth chart perspective than what he’s got here and now.

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      • Russ

        He really should have stayed with Penn State. He’d be set up to replace McSorley right now. I guess he must have had a good relationship with Morehead and when he left for MissSt that killed the mojo.

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  40. NCDawgMan

    Come on Up to Athens…….
    Mr. John Rhys Plumee……. love to see you in the Red and Black. Class act willing to bring his lunch pail everyday 4-5 years maybe.

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