A few random early signing day observations

I’m kind of intrigued by how the ACC’s day went.

Let’s see… Clemson is still recruiting at another level compared to the rest of the conference, FSU isn’t gaining ground, Mack Brown outperformed Mark Richt and there are actually three teams who signed lower rated classes than Georgia Tech.  Yep, those guys will be back any day now.

I’m being a little flippant there, of course.  I’m impressed with the job Mack Brown did, to be honest.  He’s had a good first month, having hired good coordinators and doing a decent job salvaging a recruiting class at a program that was a dumpster fire in Fedora’s last season.  He’s a first rate program promoter when it comes to fund raising, so it won’t surprise me in the least at this point to see North Carolina on more solid footing in three years or so.

Other thoughts:

  • Les, you are in Kansas anymore.
  • Oregon is fifth in the 247Sports Composite.  Looks like the Process translates nicely to the west coast.
  • Speaking of the Pac-12, USC ranks outside the top twenty and UCLA outside the top fifty.  No doubt Larry Scott remains cool about that.
  • Ohio State is outside the top ten, but that’s because of class size, not the uncertainty recruits may have about no longer playing for a borderline sociopath.
  • Losers.


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32 responses to “A few random early signing day observations

  1. gastr1

    Ryan C. makes the excuses for Les, though! A garbage take!

    These Jayhawks will apparently never learn. Perhaps there is nothing quite so truly Midwestern as doing the same stupid thing over and over again because you’re stubborn and won’t admit you don’t know what the hell you’re doing.


  2. Biggen

    I can’t get over Miami. I mean, how is that not an attractive place to play football? CMR is in trouble down there with another 7 win season in the works…


    • I think the issues have been well discussed. Off campus stadium, sub par facilities, not a great college vibe. What I’ve heard anyway. They won’t be back any time in the near future.


      • Biggen

        I thought they were building a IPF? And didn’t they just build a brand new stadium?

        One would think a top 15 class (or at least 20) would be the low bar.


        • They did? Well hell, maybe they need a marketing overhaul lol. Yea I guess Richt recruiting deficiencies are really on display now eh?


          • See below – signing zero QBs and two FCS caliber OL is completely inexcusable. And when half of your staff is comprised of your son plus buddies from yesteryear, you deserve the heat when things start to go south. Fo ex, his ST coach was a former grad assistant from UGA with no prior ST experience. His QB coach is his son – also with no prior experience. Shocker – both areas were horrid this year yet no changes are planned according to CMR.


        • stoopnagle

          They are building an IPF. I don’t know where they are with that… but they play in the Dolphins’ stadium far away from campus.


      • Jack Burton

        Perhaps high school kids prefer to play football instead of attending prayer meetings for an FCA coach.


        • Dawg1

          Stupid Comment.

          Richt may have been known for how he lived his life and he spoke openly about his faith in appropriate settings, but I remember very few times, if any where he preached to just promote his own virtue, ala Hugh Freeze, et al.

          The last year at UGA he was number one for places other coaches would like to send their sons to play, so I am not sure it has hurt him any in his career.

          His issues are not faith related.

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          • Boz


            Works alright for Dabo


            • dawgxian

              Dabo appears to recruit on the same level as Richt- 10-14 blue chips/ class. But, he’s doing it at Clemson which is harder than Richt had it Ga. the flip side is Richt quite signing 15 man classes. Dabo actually did that in 2 of his last 3 classes


              • Boz

                Dabo done a little more with his program than Richt, like play for 2 NCs and won one, but yeah the recruiting may come back to hurt him, esp with only taking 4 OL in last two classes. His margin for error is much wider in ACC though…


              • ASEF

                And like Richt, he’s on self-imposed probation at the moment. 9 scholarship players down, I think?


    • AlphaDawg

      Poorly ranked class and its only 14 recruits. Me thinks he still has yet to learn how to manage a roster or is simply mailing it in for a few more years until retirement.


    • TXBaller

      Al Golden and Randy Shannon never looked so good. Seven wins a stretch bro.


    • Bulldog Joe

      Great opportunity for Miami wasted after hauling in a very good 2018 class.

      Florida schools this year are losing more battles for in-state recruits and Miami is failing to capitalize on it.

      2019 national class rankings so far are: FSU #14, UF #16, Miami #37, UCF #57, USF #63, FAU #88, and FIU #119. That was previously unheard of for Florida.

      Losing Diaz as DC had to play a key role, but Miami is not doing much better on offense.


  3. kfoge

    Well, go ahead and pencil in Clemson into next year’s playoff ….. they aren’t losing the ACC


  4. Bulldog Joe

    Georgia is on track to have a higher-nationally-ranked incoming class (#2) than outgoing (#6) in 2015, with Gaillard and Kendall Baker moving on from the (#8) 2014 class. As long as you are bringing in balanced classes and maintaining a full roster, that’s improving your talent base.

    Looking back, Kirby inherited an unbalanced and incomplete roster with the #9, #12, #8, and #6 ranked classes, with the most-noticeable gaps being across the lines.

    Going into the 2019 season, Georgia expects to be at a full, better-balanced roster with the #6, #3, #1, and #2 classes. In a four-quarter or overtime championship game, we’ve seen how quality depth matters.

    From a talent perspective, Georgia is in excellent shape.

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    • Normaltown Mike

      Good way to look at it.

      The biggest difference in recruiting thus far has been the emphasis on OL and man, it makes my heart leap.

      For Kirby to reach Nick’s success, we have to maintain that but also add the depth of talent on D. We’re not nearly as deep there and this class seemed to prioritize D talent.


    • Biggen

      I remember when Kirby got here and at one of the 1st press conferences right when he was hired a reporter asked him what he thought about the team. His response was something to the effect of “Our starting 22 are real good. But after that there is a noticeable drop off.”.

      In other words, no depth. He sure has fixed that issue in the last three years…


  5. WarD Eagle

    Let’s not forget that Mack Brown used to win ‘crootin’ national championships with regularity.

    Let’s also not forget that his previous tenure at UNC was during the fake academic period and marred by less-than-desirable behavior by his players.


  6. Hogbody Spradlin



  7. Miami is an absolute embarrassment in terms of recruiting, and it seems like things are really falling apart down there. They signed only two OL at a badly needed position – a low 3 star who chose the U over Illinois, and a 2 star, 240lb OT who flipped from App State. At the QB position, one is graduating and other just transferred, yet they signed zero QB’s and have none slated for the spring signing period.

    When CMR took that job I said it was a huge mistake, and unfortunately I just don’t see how things can possibly end well for him. I predicted earlier he would retire at the end of this year, but now it’s looking like one more rough year before he finally hangs it up.


  8. Dolly Llama

    Louisville’s class ranked 129th? Damn, I didn’t know there were that many college football teams in America.

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  9. Macallanlover

    Biggest surprise to me is UCLA with Chip Kelly at the helm. Didn’t expect a Top 10 class for them but this was the year he had a chance to get players to better fit his offense and you would think they would be in line for that. Admittedly, those players aren’t the NFL model that seems to get the better rankings.


  10. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    I just wish I had the photoshop chops to get a picture of Les in some ruby slippers.