How can you tell when a recruiter is BSing?

This is sort of related to my last post and to those who would say it’s up to the recruit to do his due diligence before agreeing to sign a NLI during the early signing period.

Here’s the story of a kid who tried to do just that:

Georgia football quarterback signee Dwan Mathis is arriving at the University of Georgia on Saturday to begin his collegiate career…

Mathis chose to sign with the Bulldogs and decommit from Ohio State on Dec. 19 after a late push from the Georgia football staff.

Former Bulldogs’ backup Justin Fields had been talking with the Buckeyes about transferring into Columbus, leading Mathis to consider other options.

“I called before I went in to sign, I had papers from both schools in front of me,” Mathis said. “… I asked if they were talking to Justin Fields, and I got a ‘No’ ”

Mathis didn’t buy it because there was too much noise on social media suggesting otherwise, but what does it say that a coaching staff would go there anyway with all that out there?  And what does it say about situations to which there isn’t massive attention paid on social media?

I’m also guessing that Georgia’s staff told Mathis a little about Fields’ plans, which didn’t hurt.  It worked out fine for Mathis, but what about the other kids dealing with coaches who don’t shoot straight?

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26 responses to “How can you tell when a recruiter is BSing?

  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    And who, pray tell, was the head Corch at Ohio State responsible for the honesty of recruiting efforts?

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  2. Merk

    Hopefully that spreads and I am sure Kirby will use it to boost recruiting

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  3. JoshG

    I’d like to think Kirby and staff aren’t misleading recruits in this manner. But…

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    • Debby Balcer

      But what… there is no indication of that happening so why speculate that it is.

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        • Macallanlover

          Still think that was about changing the EE schedule for his timing, but you may be right. If he wasn’t able to crack Texas’ 2 deep, he wouldn’t have been happy with playing time in Athens either. I still don’t agree with programs misleading recruits about playing time, position they will play, or depth chart to the degree they know. Short of something being taped, not sure how we will ever know. With Meyer involved, I lean toward deception.

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  4. To answer your question, when his lips are moving.

    This whole process at every school is full of BS … even at Georgia.

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  5. UGA '97

    On top of that, is the news announcement of his new OC/QB coach from the No D/Big 12 – Mike Yurcich. tOSU may not be done with staff turnover, so Mathis likely made a good decision to leave that culture.
    Though, if Cheney or Coley or both leave, hope that doesn’t piss off Mathis. Kirby likely has addressed that with him.

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  6. Derek

    Was Fields in the portal on that date? If not, that’s the only answer they could have given. Even if it was bs. If not, remember R and UCLA?

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  7. Derek

    Btw: I like the film on this kid. Quick feet for a tall dude. If he fills out, he’s 6’5” 205 now, and maintains his quicks and speed he’ll be a problem to defend.

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    • sniffer

      I also like that he had choices and made his to Georgia. Kid wants to show his ability and tweak OSU at the same time. Don’t know anything about him, but it seems he will focus and strive to improve. Good luck, kid.

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  8. FlyingPeakDawg

    I want to see him handle a fake punt on G-Day.

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  9. There are good people and bad people in every occupation.

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  10. gastr1

    And people think that the players should suck it up and be loyal. To pricks like that.

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  11. Chi-town Dawg

    Besides this kid’s physical attributes, I really like his and his family’s attitude. He understands his role and comes in ready to learn and fit in. Let’s not forget the tOSU system’s track record of NFL QBs is anything less than impressive in recent years (Trey Smith, JT Barrett, Tyrelle Pryor, Braxton Miller, Cardale Jones), so this may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Mathis. I wish Fields all the best and think his departure will reduce the level of locker room drama (for UGA at least) on next year’s team and find it hard to believe under the tOSU system he’ll be better prepared for the NFL unless he wants to play WR;-)

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  12. Dylan

    I thought Fields couldn’t talk to other schools until he entered the transfer protocol, which was well after 12/19 right? So are we implying Ohio St. was committing a recruiting violation and should have admitted as much to Mathis? Not saying they WEREN’T committing a violation, but it would be stupid to admit it.

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    • Chi-town Dawg

      They may not have been talking directly with Fields or his family, but there’s nothing to stop third party intermediates like an advisor or former HS coach from having hypothetical discussions with both parties. This could easily lay the ground work for when he does enter the portal.

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      • Chi-town Dawg

        However, you’re correct in there’s no way OSU would committ/acknowledge a violation and working thru a third party gives them plausible deniability. Legally, they were telling the truth, but probably not in reality.

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    • The Dawg abides

      Fields and Haskins have the same qb coach. In my limited estimation, this is the guy that got the entire thing rolling. First with Justin’s dad, then with Justin himself.

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  13. If a recruiter tells you something-double check it. I would think the only way to get a real feel for a u would be to talk to the upper class men on the team. All of them, not just the hand picked ones.

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  14. dawgman3000

    Seems like a good kid. I hope he is coming to UGA for the education because he likely won’t see any meaningful playing time.

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  16. spottieottie

    Y’all Corch didn’t lie to the kid, he simply forgot that he was talking with Fields – on account of the selective amnesia and all – and didn’t know how to look up messages on his cell phone to see if he’d ever texted with Justin or Justin’s parents.

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