Room to grow

When it comes to your Jimmies and Joes, depth matters, but so does elite talent.  With that in mind, check out PFF’s 101 best college football players and consider that Georgia has two on the list.

Alabama has three in the top ten.

Clemson has two in the top ten and seven overall.

It’s still a process, in other words.

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54 responses to “Room to grow

  1. Athens Dog

    Jake Fromm is not very good……………evidently. It’s weird how he doesn’t get any credit.

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    • Macallanlover

      We have fans who continue to bitch about him, how can we expect those folks not even in the Dawg Pound to rate him highly? Easier to take all the shiny new cars that get unanimous reviews. Lazy journalism and analysts are all the rage these days. Good thing is, our QB is pretty unflappable and just keeps performing (although he has missed an open receiver, and failed to spot an open receiver, as is always pointed out. Those others would never do that. )

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      • DawgByte

        It’s all about legs these days. For the record Fromm is 2-0 against 5* QB’s trying to unseat him. That should tell these journalists something.

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  2. Gosh, frigging Kansas has as many players in the top 101 as we do. Puts our talent distribution among classes in perspective.
    Be interesting to see how many we put on the list next year when the 2017 and 2018 classes get more physical development and experience. It will also be a measure of how well our staff coaches at practice.

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  3. Mreed

    Sure were a lot of Washington players there. Don’t know if I buy that.

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  4. 30904Dawg

    Senator, that’s an almost entirely subjective list. A disclaimer would be nice, especially considering it’s coming from PFF which typically is entirely performance-based. THIS list, while trying to qualify things at the start, is almost entirely subjective. Players that barely rank in the top 10 at their position (which PFF readily notes in their graphics for each player) are in the top 10 overall? Please, this list is trash.

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      • 30904Dawg

        You and I both know that the AP lists are heavily influenced by the national title game participants and upperclassmen; and the AP’s own sense of self-importance (i.e. this guy was on out preseason list so let’s make sure we keep him in some capacity on the year-end list so we can self-congratulate ourselves). The point being, this is still subjective. I’m not arguing that players on the list aren’t good, but to act like there is a vast difference in elite talent would be ignorant. Remove seniors and 3rd year players that are leaving early from that list, and the perceived discrepancy gets even smaller. And that is before mentioning players like Swift and Fromm (absolutely top 100 players) or our rising sophomores and juniors that put up terrific numbers with limited snaps.

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        • Of course it’s subjective. So is your evaluation or mine.

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          • kfoge

            Touche Good Sir!

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          • 30904Dawg

            Fair enough, but implying in your original blurb that we have a sizeable gap in elite talent between ourselves and Bama/Clemson seemed unfair to me. And u stand by my criticism of the PFF list being a radical departure from their usual evaulation metrics. That being said, a lot of my disagreement comes down to symantics. But I think all can agree that Kirby has gathered an impressive array of elite talent in Athens that can do big things if correctly developed.

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      • CB

        Not really. Greedy Williams and Andrew Thomas aren’t listed at all in the top 101. That’s not to say the list is meritless, but I’m not buying that runningbacks from Iowa State and Memphis are better than D’Andre Swift.

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      • CB

        Hell, Grant Delpit was a 1st team All American and isn’t on this list.

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  5. No Dre Swift? If he were healthy at the beginning of the season, he’s a 1,500 yard guy.

    No Jake Fromm? The nation’s 3rd highest ranked passer during the regular season.

    No Andrew Thomas? The guy made the shift over to left tackle with no problem.

    That list is garbage.

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  6. Hobnail_Boot

    Notable UGA players not on that list that could be 12 months from now:

    Fromm
    Thomas
    Wilson
    Swift
    Anderson
    Davis
    Lecounte
    Campbell
    Stokes
    Blankenship

    The future is bright.

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    • Russ.

      You mean notable players that should be on that list.

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    • dawgman3000

      Lecounte won’t be on that list unless he learns how to take better angles and wrap up when he gets to the ball.

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    • CB

      There is nothing to suggest that Campbell and LeCounte have a chance to make that list outside of their high school star ranking. Based on their on field production last season they would have to become totally different players to make a list like that.

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    • GruvenDawg

      Depending on how the new coordinators approach the game plans (O- more balance 55 run/45 pass, D more pressure from front 7) these names could very well end up on the list next year.

      Jake Fromm
      Andrew Thomas
      D’Andre Swift
      J.R. Reed
      Jordan Davis
      Jermaine Johnson
      Rodrigo Blankenship

      Possible:
      Tyler Clark
      Eric Stokes Jr.
      Adam Anderson
      1 of Monty Rice/Channing Tindall
      1 of Jeremiah Holloman/Demetris Robertson/Matthew Landers

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  7. RandallPinkFloyd

    Seems like the Gators had a lot of guys on that list, most of which I believe were seniors or juniors that left for the draft.

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  8. Biggus Rickus

    Smart must be a hell of a coach, then, because Georgia was roughly as good as Clemson and Alabama this year.

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  9. Michael L. Murphy

    Actually, not close to bama and clemson..,

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    • Mayor

      Actually, close to Bama but not Clemson.

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    • Got Cowdog

      They were pretty damn close to Bama, Clemson might have done the same thing to us as they did to the fighting detergents. The way we struggled against Texas and their big wideouts should be an eye opener to our defensive group.

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      • Biggus Rickus

        Ehlinger threw for 169 yards.

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        • Exactly … and that was with Baker in bubble wrap and Walker hurt. The defense held up long enough with the crappy field position the offense and special teams put them in.

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          • Got Cowdog

            Sure. And I’m getting the cart before the horse but Clemson has a hell of a passing game and we (if) will likely see them in the playoffs should we return. IIRC Ehlinger high pointed a couple of our corners on the outside for 1st downs to keep drives moving. Baker didn’t play, but he won’t play this season either.
            I was referring to what I think will be an issue moving forward.
            I also have the feeling Bama may be slipping a little, maybe it’s just me.

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            • If you make a QB high point a throw and make a receiver make a play, generally, there isn’t a darn thing a corner can do about that short of interfering. No one has corners that can go against WRs that have basketball player height and size. That 6’5” kid who had NBA dreams now considers himself the next Julio or AJ. 5’11” to 6’2” corners can’t stop them if a ball is thrown perfectly.

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            • Biggus Rickus

              People are going to complete passes against the defense sometimes. But you referred to what happened against Texas as “struggling”. If the defense struggled against Texas’ passing game, then teams should struggle more often.

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    • 30904Dawg

      Hmmm, manhandling Bama for 3/4s of the SEC game and losing by a single TD would definitely wualify as “close”

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  10. LD

    I don’t know whether this list says all that much about Georgia’s elite talent when Jake Fromm doesn’t make the list but QBs at Ohio and North Texas do. I’d say Fromm is better than 7 or 8 of the QBs listed.

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  11. spottieottie

    Here’s the SEC breakdown:
    Alabama – 5 total, 3 remaining for 2019 (#9 Tua Tagovailoa, #58 Jerry Jeudy, and #65 Jaylen Waddle)
    Florida – 3 total, 1 returning for 2019 (#94 CJ Henderson)
    Georgia – 2 total, 1 returning for 2019 (#84 J.R. Reed)
    LSU – 2, 1 (#92 Kristian Fulton)
    Mississippi State – 2, 0
    Auburn – 1, 1 (#71 Derrick Brown)
    Kentucky – 1, 0
    Missouri – 1, 0
    Texas A&M – 1, 0
    Arkansas, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt – 0, 0

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  12. pantslesspatdye

    Really begs the question, why wasn’t Washington and Notre Dame better this season?

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    • Kdawg

      I’m not sure I agreed. Notre Dame was undefeated and in the playoffs. They played Clemson about as close as Alabama did.

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  13. ASEF

    Recruit. Develop. Deploy.

    Kirby is firmly established with Step 1. 2019 will say a lot about Steps 2 and 3.

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  14. Kdawg

    What I find interesting, as if anybody cares, is UGA played 5 of the top 10 and kept all of them mostly in check with exception of the “pretty fly for a white guy” Andy Isabella from ……UMASS?!?!?

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    • Merk

      He was in check too until we were up by 28 points and there was 0 reason to keep the 1s in other than to pad stats and keep their score down.

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  15. Russ.

    Interesting list. Not sure I agree with all the names/placements, but Tyler Badazz, center from Wisconsin, gets my vote for all-name team.

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  16. 86BONE

    There is a whole lot going right in Athens these days and Kirby is building his wall. There ain’t no me in TEAM!

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    • Sanford222view

      Well, actually there is an “m” and an “e”. There is no “I” in TEAM. UGA has had shirts with, “TEAM me” meaning the team is bigger than “me” dating back to at least the 1980’s. I remember a gray shirt with that being worn by Herschel.

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  17. RandallPinkFloyd

    The biggest miss by this list is no Andrew Thomas. Dude is a top ten pick in the 2020 draft.

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  18. Will Trane

    Post that list in the locker room with a question on it. Do you have what it takes to be in the 101?
    My take from that list.
    No doubt we have some coaches who can coach.
    Bama has all that talent they barely beat us. Plus Iowa State, Washington, Wisconsin, etc… none of them finished ahead of Dawgs in final polls.
    Conclusion.
    If Smart had years of recruiting the talent Dabo and Nick had he could take their players and beat each other’s players.
    Keep on trucking Coach Smart…on the road to getting there.
    Hope to see the defensive side of the ball coaches hires or changes this week.
    Looks like the offensive is up.

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  19. Tony Barnfart

    D’Andre Swift is the best running back in college football. Other than that, kiss my _ _ _.

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  20. Nashville West

    There are 8 QB’s and only 4 offensive linemen in the top 50. This list is a POS.

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  21. Pedro

    While the high end certainly is one measure of on field performance most rankings like these are incomplete because the don’t include talent variability across the roster. Alabama and Clemson have high end talent for sure, but they also have a starting roster of potential nflers. While Kansas equals us for talent in the top 100, the same can’t be said for the whole 85. Variability in talent level matters, weaknesses can be exploited, and that is where the bulk of our talent catch up has occurred thus far. However, how well we do in getting more of our 5 star talent into this list over the next two years will heavily drive our chance at taking out the tide and Clemson.

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  22. Al Ford

    This is a better measurement, in my opinion. Fromm and Thomas are in the top 4 of next year’s NFL draft.

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php

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  23. Chris

    bullshit article……….couldn’t find felipe franks anywhere on the list

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