TFW you’ve got this hot take you’ve just gotta share

Adam Rittenberg says Georgia’s a loser on the early exits to the NFL front.  That can’t be simply because of raw numbers, because there were plenty of other SEC teams that took similarly sized, or even larger, hits.  (Rittenberg does include TAMU and ‘Bama on his losers list, although Florida doesn’t appear.)

So, what’s the deal here?

Georgia: The Bulldogs had four offensive skill players declare as underclassmen, including their top three pass-catchers, wideouts Riley Ridley and Mecole Hardman and tight end Isaac Nauta. None is rated among Kiper’s top prospects at their respective positions. Would they have left if Georgia passed the ball more? We’ll never know. Quarterback Jake Fromm will have a largely new group of targets in 2019. Running back Elijah Holyfield’s departure made sense as D’Andre Swift remains in Athens and Zamir White returns from injury.  [Emphasis added.]

The Jadon Haselwood narrative has taken root, my friends.  That was quick.

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37 responses to “TFW you’ve got this hot take you’ve just gotta share

  1. Spur 21

    WTF is Adam Rittenberg and WTF should I listen to what he says?

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  2. artful codger

    Well, by extension, why would Holyfield leave? …seeing as how we do run the ball so much. Players leave for a multitude of individual reasons, not the least of which is try to get some $ before they ruin a knee.

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    • Well, by extension, why would Holyfield leave?

      I had the same thought when I read it.

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    • Yeah, one of our departing juniors has a Father who could tell him from experience that one’s body can only absorb a finite number of hits and he should be paid for absorbing each one.

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    • dawgtired

      Good point. And I don’t understand this statement..” Running back Elijah Holyfield’s departure made sense as D’Andre Swift remains in Athens and Zamir White returns from injury. ”
      Is that suggesting Holyfield is the lesser of the group and wouldn’t get PT? I’m sure due simply to numbers his carries would lessen to some degree but man what a statement he could make when he did carry. I wish he had stayed but I understand his concern for the future.

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    • Tony Barnfart

      Running back is a weird bird…. on the one hand, Sony Michel absolutely moved himself from a 4th-5th round pick to a first round pick by staying his senior year. Nick Chubb the same, even though he was just a shade into the second round. I don’t even know if Chubb would have been drafted without another year of fixed knee proof.

      ON THE OTHER HAND, Holyfield is almost in this neat little sweet spot. Tons of street cred for Georgia running backs, with the added BENEFIT of only 1 full year of significant wear and tear. And in that 1 year, he managed to hit the 1,000 yard mark and really turn heads with his talent and carries. In summary, he plays for the right team, hit his stats at the right time and he checks the “low wear and tear” box if you’re one of those types.

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      • Tony Barnfart

        And I do think he’s probably smart to go out on a high note. Remember, he got carries that the banged up Swift didn’t get as well.

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    • GruvenDawg

      Not totally agreeing with the statement about Holyfield fromthe writer but I can see his point. It could potentially move Holyfield down in carries and yards and add more tread. This doesn’t include the always possible chance of injury. This year is probably better for Holyfield to come out due to the draft class he will be competing against and this years slotting. The draft class for RB in 2020 is stocked. Here are just a few names that are eligible for 2020 draft which would all probably go ahead of Holyfield. Most of these names are considered very good RB’s.

      Najae Harris
      JK Dobbins
      Johnathan Tayler
      DeAndre Swift
      Cam Akers
      Tavis Eteinne

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  3. The only one of the 4 that was a head-scratcher to me was Mecole. Sure, he runs whatever it is in the 40, but he disappeared at times in the 2nd half of the season. Someone is going to draft him as a late 2nd day or early 3rd day guy as a punt returner first. He isn’t ready as a wide receiver and could have used another year to improve his route running in particular.

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  4. I understand wanting to make money while you can, and the chance of injury if they stay another year, but none of these guys is projected to go high in the draft at this point, and that to me is the surprising element in all three receivers choosing to leave early.

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    • artful codger

      I read an article positing that for the player who can see he will never be a 1st rounder and command big signing bonus bucks, the best shot at getting real money can only come in the 4th year when signing a new contract. Go ahead and get in the mix, prove yourself worthy, and point toward that first contract renewal.

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      • Exactly. By going pro Mecole can be paid while learning to run routes, and he can practice with the coaches and QBs all day every day in 2019. By staying he would be l8mited to 20 hours a week “learning to run routes” and being paid whatever the actual cost of attendance stipend is.

        I understand him concluding the better choice is to get better instruction in the NFL in 2019 and get the big contract in 2023 than get fewer hours of instruction in 2019 and get the big contract in 2024.

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        • JCDawg83

          You are making the assumption he is drafted and actually makes a team, neither of which is guaranteed. He will probably be drafted late but making the roster is a bigger challenge. NFL rosters don’t have enough spots to waste one on a returner/wide receiver project. The NFL is not interested in taking on players who want/need on the job training.

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  5. Was most concerned about Holyfield – not for the RB situation but because I thought if he was going early we were getting Sanders. Other than that – Ridley, Mecole – great players – could disappear in games – look at the Sugar Bowl. Look at the LSU game. Not like we don’t have WRs that can catch the ball. Ridley is probably the most missed because he was the most ready and could be the guy that would be the Alpha. Nauta has been gone since Eason left. We still have a great and talented OL, we still have Swift and Herrien and Cook. Cook can fill in the slot for Mecole if no one else steps up. We still have Zeus just need to see him healthy and stay that way. We lost 4 guys early and 2 transfers. JF is good riddance. He was a problem behind the scenes and on top of that the SOB was trying to get Cook to go with him. That makes him a trader not an unhappy I am not playing freshman. Glad he is OSU’s problem. OSU will be the one to deal with that and then have to deal with no Martell as well since he is transferring to Miami. I think UGA is just fine. We finish making public who the DC is and get the DB coach locked down and we are all set. Hell we even got chaney to leave and UT to over pay for him and pay us $500K on top.

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  6. ASEF

    Is there a program out there right now outside of Clemson that doesn’t have an active media campaign flashing “Warning!” over it?

    Some of it is negative recruiting that’s hit the “buzz” level. But that’s why you win your bowl game. Losers of big bowl games get this crap all off season. Next up: a string of “What went wrong at Georgia/Alabama/Notre Dame/Etc and is it forced or is it a trend?” stories.

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  7. Durtydawg

    GA is a pro style run the ball team that uses play action when they want to throw the ball. Been that way for years. Knowing this, kids still wanted to come play in the offense because it was closest to what the next level was doing. Now that the next level is beginning to change to more spread offenses, kids are told the pro style offense is boring and becoming extinct. I don’t fit that category. You run the ball, you control the clock, you win the game.

    Jaden obviously has contempt for UGA. We are still on his mind which tells me deep down he knows he wanted to be a Dawg. Passing up a chance to catch a ton of balls was just too good to pass up. My advice to him is hush up, play ball and never burn bridges. Life has a funny way of coming back to bite you.

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  8. Bulldog Joe

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

    Holyfield and Ridley are among the top 100 projected picks.

    Mecole and Isaac Nauta could have benefitted the most by returning. Mecole’s production dropped off significantly during the second half of the season and Isaac is competing with a very large class of TE’s this year.

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    • AlphaDawg

      I’ve yet to see Nauta listed in top 10 any of the more used rankings of position groups. I could see Ridley or Holyfield sneaking into the 2nd round, the rest are late round picks, but as long as they make a roster and contribute they’ll start the clock on their 2nd contract which is where the real money is for anyone not drafted on in the 1st/2nd.

      I think Nauta is still a project. He is great in the open field but there is very little film of him making contested catches and almost every catch in the league is contested.

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  9. Ben

    The optimist in me thinks these guys saw some skill players coming in and are getting out before riding the bench.

    The pessimist in me thinks the Adam Sasser thing runs deeper and something’s rotten in Athens.

    The realist in me thinks these guys just wanna get paid.

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    • “The Adam Sasser thing runs deeper …”

      What does that mean? If everyone had looked the other way and not done anything, your pessimist side may have a point. Otherwise, that’s just ridiculous.

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    • Spur 21

      I agree with your optimist view and your realist view – the pessimist view is getting too much ink. If Sasser was an issue I would think we would see a flood of transfers not just in the athletic department but school wide.

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  10. PTC DAWG

    Everyone needs a hot take I suppose.

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  11. Tony Barnfart

    It’s tough to argue with back to back 11-1 regular season records but my gut has told me for a while that we need to pass the ball more. I suppose we can be really good with above average but not a great shelf of receivers, but I wonder if we can be great. Yes, I realize that the stats say every time Fromm makes over 30 attempts we lose, but I wonder how much of that is actual desperation mode of either trying in vain to come back or getting stuffed in the run (and then not having the passing game work).

    We always argue about “efficiency” in our passing game but a receiver prospect might be looking at the Attempts / Game (avg 21–ranked 91st) and yards per game (avg 196–ranked 68th).

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  12. W Cobb Dawg

    Javon Wims was arguably more valuable to our offense than any of the 4 turning pro. Wims didn’t get picked until the 7th round! Trent Thompson wasn’t picked at all. I think all 4 of the underclassmen f#*ked up. Having said that I hope they prove me wrong and do well in the nfl.

    But we have plenty of talented players that are chomping at the bit to get playing time; Holloman, Simmons, Woerner, DRob, etc., etc. Plus, we have Fromm and an offensive line of behemoths!

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  13. Thorn Dawg

    Ridley- 1st Round
    Mecole- 3rd Round
    Holyfield- 3rd Round
    Nauta- 5th Round

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    • Spur 21

      Holyfield – late 2nd – early 3rd
      Ridley – late 2nd – ear;ly 3rd
      Mecole – ??? – Free Agent
      Nauta – 5th – Free Agent

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  14. FlyingPeakDawg

    Holyfield could be the steal of the draft. A lot of similarities to Ezekiel Elliot other than maybe top end speed and receiving, but with good coaching he’d certainly develop the latter and can improve the former. Hope he gets that chance.

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  15. UGA '97

    Get use to it. Besides,
    Bama loses the following 17 players to graduation, NFL or transfer:
    QB Jalen Hurts (transfer)
    Starting G Lester Cotton
    Starting C Ross Pierschbacher
    Main backup G Josh Casher
    Starting RB Damien Harris
    Starting H-Back/Backup TE Hale Hentges
    Starting DE Isaiah Buggs
    Starting ILB Christian Miller
    Main backup LB Jamey Mosley
    Starting P Mike Burnier
    NFL Early Declares:
    Josh Jacobs RB
    Irv Smith Jr. TE
    Saivion Smith DB
    Deionte Thompson DB
    Jonah Williams LT
    Quinnen Williams DT
    Mack Wilson LB

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