Tate Martell goes for the gold.

We’ve been watching the Martell transfer situation because the Justin Fields transfer situation obviously begat the Martell transfer situation, but what Martell intends to try now bears watching on its own.

Martell is not leaving Ohio State as a graduate transfer, and he’ll need more than one semester to graduate from Miami. That means he’ll be applying for a waiver from the NCAA in order to play in 2019, and his attorney told the Toledo Blade on Thursday that he believes Martell’s case has merit for reasons that include the Buckeyes’ change in coaches from Urban Meyer to Ryan Day.

“There were some things that happened at Ohio State that we can potentially get some relief from the NCAA, and we’re going to try it that way,” the attorney, Travis Leach, told the newspaper. “The coaching staff turnover is an issue. There are a few things. There’s no real bright-line test that tells you 100 percent how you can get a waiver. This is a tough one, but there are some good facts on his side.”  [Emphasis added.]

That’s right.  If you’re college football, it’s the big one, Elizabeth.  They’re gonna try to argue Martell deserves a get out of jail free card because of the coaching change (even if that seems a little weird in this context since Day was his OC before Corch left).  Should this argument win the day (see what I did there?), it’s a huge game changer for athletic directors who would then have to weigh the potential havoc a coaching change would have on their football program.

Not to mention it’s kind of fair.

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22 responses to “Tate Martell goes for the gold.

  1. truck

    We cheer for laundry.

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  2. sniffer

    Well, hell, if coaches were paid enough, they’d not have to look for another job somewhere.

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  3. Martell has as much of a case for a hardship transfer as Fields. I hope they both lose.

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    • Macallanlover

      Me too, but I don’t have a high level of confidence in the NCAA to realize how significant there two situations are to the future of CFB. Even if they do, the lack of a strong leader will continue to make their stances be inconsistent. The promise of a quick decision from Fields’ attorney is troublesome. It took them until August to make decisions last year on players transferring closer to home for family health reasons, which would seem an easier evaluation to me. It took them several years to make the Reggie Bush decision at USC but hours to make the decisions on Gurley and Cam.

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  4. ASEF

    “Have dirt, will use it”

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  5. GruvenDawg

    I am 100% behind grad transfers. I am pretty conflicted on the undergrad waiver process. I support transferring home for a sick family member, and after a coaching change. For some of the recent high profile transfers the process is to lawyer up and say it’s becase of X that happened when it’s realily playing time. Very disingenuous. It’s loophole searching by the student and lawyers involved and I really don’t appreciate that part of it.

    I know the cases are supposed to be reviewed on a individual basis. If these loopholes are successfully exploited it will lead to an avalanche of transfers every year. I would assume the NCAA would get to a point where they are going to struggle to review each case. Imagine all the kids where their immediate playing time is dependent on their case review. The NCAA bureaucracy won’t be able to keep up and the kids don’t end up getting qualified until the following year anyways. That would be so NCAA like.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Good summary. I think a lot of these players transferring are gonna be disappointed. The ncaa simply can’t open this Pandora’s box or players will be switching schools at a rate that’ll have heads spinning. I would think the ncaa is happy with the grad transfer and hardship transfer options, and 1 year waiting period for undergrads. I don’t see the ncaa changing the policy without a court or legislation forcing it upon them.

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  6. That would be a step in the right direction

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  7. paul

    Genuine question here. If the students are not allowed to have agents or lawyers involved in making their initial commitment why are they allowed legal representation during the transfer process?

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    • No rule against it… just like there’s no rule against a Gator hiring Huntley Johnson when the need arises. 😉

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      • paul

        Sure, you hire a lawyer when dealing with the criminal justice system. You cannot prevent a citizen from doing that. But this is an enrollment issue involving the NCAA. It seems strikingly similar to the NLI process to me. Couldn’t one argue that if you allow representation during the transfer process you have to allow it for initial enrollment as well? I know there’s a rule and all but it seems like you might be able to argue this successfully in court. As long as we’re blowing up the ‘amateurism’ argument we might as well get rid of this as well.

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        • In a transfer situation, you aren’t using the attorney to negotiate signing with someone. You’re utilizing the attorney to navigate the NCAA rules process.

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          • paul

            Thanks for your patient explanation.I am old and I think the whole of college football is headed straight to H-E-double hockey sticks in an accelerated fashion. I hate to see it but I share your opinion that the folks in charge are blinded by the cash and have pretty much already sold the goose that lays the golden eggs. All we’re waiting for now is for the whole thing to deteriorate past the point of no return. It didn’t take long for the National Championship game to start being awarded to the highest bidder did it? Probably time to re-watch the original Rollerball with James Caan.

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  8. The Dawg abides

    I was really wishing he had retained Mars. He could argue both appeals at the same time. Seriously though, I hope the tampering between OSU and Fields’ qb coach comes up during Martell’s case.

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    • Ellis

      This ↑. We are quickly lurching into uncharted territory. What are the rules for recruiting players that are already playing on other teams? I think OSU’s recruitment of Fields would be an interesting story.

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    • I can’t get my mind around an example at the moment, but it seems like there’s a chance Martell’s attorney could exploit some inadvertent “opened the door / waiver of privilege” scenarios by an overly-aggressive Mars coupled with a less than forthcoming Ohio State administration that could put Ohio State and/or Fields in a real pickle.

      Are there any lawyers in the house ? Yo ! /eddie murphy voice

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  9. He has a much better case to play in 2019 than someone like Fields, who just left because he didn’t get to start his freshman year.

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  10. Brandon M

    Is he using the coaching change as ammo? Or the whole ugly situation that ultimately prompted the coaching change? Hostile environment for a kid and all ya know…

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  11. Faulkner

    Maybe they told him they had absolutely no interest in JF. Just like they told Dwan.

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  12. TimberRidgeDawg

    Please let this happen

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  13. UGA '97

    Exhibit A Hugh Freeze, Shea Patterson.

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