Today, in overreactions

WARNING:  Hyperventilation alert!

A kid jumps ship because the coach he signed for skips for a better job in the NFL after less than a month in LA (happens all the time, right?) and we’re ready to toss out a setup that seems to suit hundreds of recruits who signed last month without a hitch?  Sure, Barrett, whatevs.

The correct takeaway from the McCoy situation is that the NLI could stand amending to reflect a change in coaching status between signing day and the start of spring practice.  Or simply that a kid with leverage like McCoy chooses to follow in Roquan Smith’s footsteps and doesn’t sign one in the first place.

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21 responses to “Today, in overreactions

  1. All of these solutions work, but I wouldn’t be surprised if all of this leads to blue chips delaying signing until February if this becomes a bigger deal. Even more likely is that players could decide not to become early entrants especially for blue chips.

    The amendment to the NLI is the best solution, but no way do the control freaks PE teachers in the cartel agree to it.

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    • Tony Barnfart

      Kids and parents need to go back to remembering that these dates (particularly February) are not arbitrary decisions where the NCAA threw darts at a calendar. While signing day may be the earliest day i CAN sign it may NOT be the earliest day i SHOULD sign. That day in February used to be the absolute earliest one COULD sign.

      Point being, the reason those feb/dec are the days (and not middle of your jr. yr like some advocate) is because anytime before that is not enough time to make an informed decision. Families of superstars are being herded into a cattle pen when they really don’t have to.

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  2. Reverend Whitewall

    I like Sallee, but yeah I agree his take on this one is an overreaction.

    However, your proposed solution wouldn’t have helped in this case would it? Wasn’t McCoy an early enrollee, and once you’re on campus, you’re bound by the transfer rules whether you signed the NLI or not? Of course, I guess McCoy would have been in the same situation under the old system as an early enrollee anyway. I like giving kids some wiggle room if their coach leaves after signing, especially if they’re not on campus. But it definitely complicates things if the kid is already on campus when it happens. At that point it’s less an NLI issue and more a transfer rules issue.

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  3. 92 Grad

    That Sirius channel is garbage after 12:00p. Really disappointing

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  4. Godawg

    If Tom Luginbill is for it, I’m against it. That guy’s an ass.

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  5. TomReagan

    Just now realizing that Herschel and Roquan both waited on their letters of intent. That’s the best player in program and college football history and the best defensive player I’ve seen at UGA. Maybe we should encourage more of that.

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  6. Bright Idea

    You never know if McCoy felt pressure to sign with USC, got there and didn’t like it and the coaching change became a good excuse to leave or it was just the coaching change. Every situation is different but there are now so many situations that one rule will never cover them all. I like the early signing date but it should remain open and not limited to 3 days. Just keep it open and eliminate the Feb date. Of course coaches want it closed for playoff and bowl practice.

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    • Tony Barnfart

      The theory (which I kind of agree with) is that the closing of the window also helps the kids as a whole. It forces those who say they’re ready to $**t to do so. When the dust clears, anybody who was in limbo land about where they really stood with some of their “reach” schools has a much clearer picture based on the number of signees–then they have another 1.5 months to watch the early entrants to the draft, count the scholly numbers at a particular place and at least sniff out most of the coaching changes.

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  7. 69Dawg

    The only way to solve this problem will only happen after the NCAA has been destroyed by the courts. The transfer policy, rule or whatever the thing is, has to be modified to allow players whose head coach has been either fired or left for greener pastures be allowed to enter the “Transfer Portal ” and become immediately eligible to play. I guess they could modify the NLI to include this but just go bombs away on it. This will serve multiple purposes. First the kids would be free to go if they hadn’t really signed for the school and not the coach (ah the first big lie). Second, the schools wouldn’t be so quick to pull the trigger on a coach (coaches would like this). Finally, the schools might get the balls to enforce covenants not to compete and large buyouts against the coaches who are just moving on up. The huge buyouts might also stop a normal school from poaching.

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    • Tony Barnfart

      Should 20, 30, 40 kids be allowed to leave USC without restriction ? I’m all for kids getting a little bit more dough in their pockets—but there is kind of this growing [i think false] bravado about these schools having no leverage and taking all of this lying down.

      The year-in-residency without competition is also a form of restrictive covenant albeit in a (at least for now) non-employment situation. These schools have a right to protect the integrity of an operation that does $140million in revenue every year. Dan Wolken may get his panties in a wad if he can’t cover Justin Fields this year, but I’m not sure that a Court would look at sitting out 1yr of competition YET STILL (a) being on scholarship at a University and (b) having the same number of competitive years left to play is enough of a burden to force the NCAA to throw that rule out.

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      • CB

        Not sure which side of the fence you’re on with regard to paying players, but a real simple solution is signing players to a 4-5 year contract that they can’t get out of (unless they graduate) just like the NFL. Justin Fields would still be in Athens perhaps unhappy for the moment but likely earning six figures with the chance to take over a top tier program in a year or two. On the flip side Georgia would probably be happy to release a player like Deangelo Gibbs who would also likely be earning six figures, but being buried on the depth chart in Athens, he would never get a shot to show the NFL what he can do, so we release him, and allow him to sign at Tennessee where he could still likely command a high salary, and get the opportunity to play.

        Obviously trading players would be out of the question which is a huge difference compared to the NFL, then again there is no draft so any team can sign as many future first rounders as the scholarship limits allow.

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  8. Hogbody Spradlin

    Anecdotal evidence does not good policy make.

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  9. Russ

    Just saw this morning that a Miami commit who signed in December has asked for and been granted his release to sign with Syracuse.

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  10. Uglydawg

    “Or simply that a kid with leverage like McCoy chooses to follow in Roquan Smith’s footsteps and doesn’t sign one in the first place.”
    Or, those with a lot of influence can get off the hook but those with little influence are stuck to wiggle on it.
    A good solution for the haves, but leaves the have-nots having naught and even worse off now being stuck in a program in which the future just walked off.
    Every kid signing should have his own addendum (if that’s the word, I’m no lawyer) to that contract in hand and demand it also be accepted and signed by both parties. “If ___________________ happens, I’m totally off the hook for this program”
    And why not? If enough kids do it and stick to their guns, the schools would have to sign on.

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  11. Chopdawg

    Don’t know why the signing date was ever moved up in the first place. Move it back to February, all the coaching changes should be done by then.

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  12. UGA '97

    If that amendment got added, then why not allow a kid to sign on any date?

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  13. PTC DAWG

    Kid knows the rules, you sign early, you are signed. No more coddling…if the kid was paying his own way he could leave …but he’s not, the school is paying…

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  14. 69Dawg

    The truth is that many of these kids sign with a school because of the coach. They shouldn’t but they want to be coached up to go to the NFL. This will become an increasing problem for teams like Alabama, Georgia, and the rest of the cream of the Power 5. Barring some crazy happening Kirby’s not leaving, so the only problems we are going to have will be 4 and 5 stars that are QB’s or other skill position payers that think they are better than they actually are. Lets face it we are about to join Alabama in the unique situation of having a lot of three and gone players. We will always be having to get leadership out of juniors because we will have fewer and fewer seniors. It’s a new day in recruiting and I’m glad Kirby trained at the master’s knee. If Saban can be in the CFP hunt in 2019 he is a wizard not a coach.

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  15. Hal Evans

    4pm with Mark Packer is really good on Sirius 84. The 1-4 show really stinks.

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