Chomping at the bit to get at it, eh?
Well, before you do, let’s chuckle together. From the “Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor gloom of night stays these courageous couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds” division comes this:
Should you need further context,
You don’t want to mess with Wilford Brimley when he’s pretty damned serious about something.
Oh, and one other thing: 2019, you’re killing me. This sounds like an appropriate time to ask you where you get your favorite fried chicken from… and maybe how often.
Okay, now you can bitch about Trump. Sorry for the delay.
Get The Picture 
one of the all time best cameos on Seinfeld.
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Wilford Brimley is waiting on his “diabeetus” medication.
Speaking of fried chicken, do you ever wonder if they fried Popeye’s in Olive Oil?
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How long did it take to think that up?
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YAR! Ye makin’ me laugh!
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Amazing that he could play such an ominous a character looking like that.
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Never watched that movie. I may have to now.
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“wonderful thing, those subpeenys.”
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Absence of Malice is great, not just because of WB.
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Paul is so good.
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A great movie!
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My absolute favorite scene.
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O.K., I’ve decided to tell my WB story, even though no one will read it. In ’92 I was working at Warner Brothers Animation and used to torment my coworkers daily with Wilford Brimley singing “It Ain’t Easy Being Green” at a high volume, from a CD I’d found at a Pasadena swap meet. It became a big thing and the studio became dedicated to relieving me of that disc, but no dice.
So after the job wrapped some of the staff had a Saturday lunch at a local bowling alley. “You’ve gotta be kidding me”, someone said, and yep, there was the WB himself, shooting pool a few feet from our table. He and I had a nice chat about his singing career, which he was delighted to be asked about. Hell of a good guy. Only later did I realize that the disc was in my car with all my other office stuff at the time and I could have had him sign it.
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Okay, that’s pretty awesome!
And what did you work on at WB Animation?
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Lots of crap over the years. “Taz-Mania” (Saturday morning show), “Space Jam”, etc.
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Lots of crap over the years- “Taz-Mania (Saturday morning show) and “Space Jam” are what I can remember at the moment.
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As far as fried chicken goes, if you’re in New Orleans go to Willie Mae’s Scotch House. Took me forever to finally try it because there always seems to be a line, expected to be underwhelmed given its reputation, and I was blown away.
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Is that the one the UT lineman was recommending to his teammates? He was from NO so I’m guessing it was the same place.
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Apparently not. He was talking about Brother’s Food Mart. He may not be the go to guy on food.
Given this perhaps texas players should be permanently excluded from the city: https://www.kvue.com/mobile/article/news/local/texas-longhorns-have-mixed-reviews-of-new-orleans-food-ahead-of-sugar-bowl/269-625545033
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Damn, there’s no accounting for taste, I guess. I can honestly say I never ate a bad meal there, and that includes the (inappropriately named) Takee Outee back during the Herschel Sugar Bowl days.
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I had the misfortune of finally having a bad meal in NoLa over the holidays. We went to a place, Royal Oyster House (you guessed it, it’s on Royal), and all four of us had some of the worst food I’ve had in years. Cold, no flavor, and throw in bad service to boot. Fortunately we were still in New Orleans, so good food was just around the corner. Also, not sure if anyone on this board likes Vietnamese food, but I’ve had hands down the best Pho I’ve ever had (and I live in LA, it ain’t bad here) in New Orleans.
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Always look at ratings and reviews there. Recent ones.
Any place with lots of tourists is going to have some people without any pride.
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There is something almost sinful about having a bad meal in NOLA.
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Atlanta has excellent pho up on Buford Hwy. I’m sure every city has it’s highlights.
The food is the only saving grace of that disgusting swamp toilet of a city.
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There is a Korean noodle joint behind the big liquor store, east side of L’vlle-Suwannee Rd. They have a fatty ramen soup that is the bomb. Lots of really good oriental food up around the Duluth area.
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Yeah there seem to be pockets where different Asian communities consolidate their businesses and Duluth is a big one from my understanding. The one close to me that I’ve been hitting up is the H-Mart shopping center near 285 and Peachtree (Near Brandsmart). Has an excellent Ramen shop, a (cheap but fun) conveyor belt sushi joint and a trendy upscale Korean BBQ restaurant all in the same location. Worth a few trips.
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There is one in Duluth as well. It’s worth the trip just to check out the seafood counter.
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Takee Outee is not good food. At least it wasn’t in the 70s when I lived in Louisiana.
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Well, it’s all relative, right? If you’re a (very) drunk college student stumbling around the Quarter tormenting ND fans, it’s pretty tasty.
But yeah, outside of that particular case, it was pretty bad.
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I wish Mike Griffith had stayed in Knoxville. And Chip Towers has become the AJC grump. Seth Emerson alone is worth my subscription to The Athletic. I wish Jeff Sentell would head over there too…
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Griffith is a hack. The AJC filled Emerson’s giant shoes with baby feet by hiring Griffith. I used to read most of the DawgNation articles when Seth was there. Now I primarily read only Jeff Sentell. I got a subscription to the Athletic for Christmas so I could read Emerson but the off-season has slowed the news. I am getting some outstanding baseball articles there and hoping the football coverage picks up as we move closer to the season.
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Kicking off the Playpen proper, I have 2 questions:
What dignity does a political party/philosophy/ideology have that practically simultaneously impeached a president for a lie in a civil depo on a personal matter who then calls material lies in a matter of national security merely “process crimes?”
If there’s nothing to hide about Russia, because it’s all so damn innocent, why does everyone lie about it so damn much? Are they just pathological liars who can’t help but lie when the truth would set them free?
And let the stupid begin!
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“Let the stupid begin”.
You are not big into self-awareness are you?
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heh
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You’re not into putting your thoughts into words are you?
Inability? Cowardice? Fecklessness? Impotence? What’s the excuse?
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Still can’t believe they let McEnroe do that stuff. What a complete arsehole he was.
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When you’re good, you get some permissiveness.
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Man, I know you really like to debate and pontificate this stuff, but really, isn’t everything on the hill bullshit? It’s like General Motors, too big to fail and impossible to fix. People suck and there’s a lot of people in Washington and a lot of people that want to work in Washington.
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So no difference between speeding and mass murderers, they’re just all breaking the law, right?
Put me down as one for proportionality. I will allow that trying to get to 50% plus 1 among Americans is a proposition best filled by some of the worst among us, but it doesn’t mean we have to throw democracy in the trash because we as a group tend towards dumb, regardless of our leanings.
Being discerning and informed could help some, again, regardless of leanings.
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Exactly. Accepting campaign help from Russia is treason. Accepting campaign help from China isn’t. Lying about how many hamburgers one buys is pathological. Lying about being named after a mountain climber is smart. #OrangeManBad
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Lets chat when the Mueller report is finished and the FISA details get published. Should make for an epic playpen. Haven’t heard any outcry of the OIG report either.
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Too soon to touch either question? Really?
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Don’t sell yourself short, amigo. The stupid began as soon as you arrived! 🏅🎉🎉🎉
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You dumb fuckers hate to show your work don’t you?
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ask a stupid question get a stupid answer.
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From a stupid person?
If it were really stupid sides, you’d take a crack at either or both.
You’re not because you can’t, in part, because you’re dumb.
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You go Derek!!!
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Are you really an adult?
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Adults are able to write down thoughts in full sentences. Paragraphs even. Heard of books?
Children make snide remarks. You know, like sides and gaseous short pecker.
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Are you saying that insults and logical fallacies aren’t a valid form of argument for an adult?
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There you go again.
-Ronald Regan
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Of course. He is also in the top 1 percent, has a Swedish model wife, calls anyone a moron to their face with no recourse because he benches fo hundy.
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You know you could participate in a substantive conversation. It’s an option.
I know I predicted, correctly, lots of stupid. But the questions are valid. The fact is that no one has tried to address them. Telling I think.
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None of these retards understand that your feelings trump their facts, Derek. You just keep raging about YOUR truth and don’t let the haters get you down.
#SoBrave #OrangeManBad
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You end several loaded questions with Let the stupid begin and call it the beginning of substantive conversation. No its not valid. Just as your claims of what you are, how you act, and what you do.
Those of us with some experience around the world, with different types of cultures and attitudes know exactly what you are and why you act the way you do here.
You aren’t original, and trolling your dumbass is entertaining.
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Maybe I should start a presidential exploratory committee:
https://www.forbes.com/pictures/flji45elmm/donald-trumps-10-most-of/#50b7a15870df
The irony is incredible. Asshole in the WH? Sure why not? On a blog commenting? Oh dear, I must clutcheth thine pearls!!
Fuck off.
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You tell ’em, Derek. They want more substance than #OrangeManBad? Well suck it Nazis! You don’t deserve substance when we’re this triggered!
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I’ll take a small WAG at it.
First, WJC was impeached for both lying to Congress and suborning perjury while he was in office. It cost him both his law license permanently and $850K to Paula Jones. None of the stuff currently going on happened while the current occupant was in office and much of it (at least in regards to Manafort) supposedly occurred before he even announced his campaign. To me, that’s an important difference.
As to why everyone seems to lie about it, my opinion is that there’s a question of fact for the jury to decide if these people are really lying or are genuinely making mistakes in their recollection of things that happened two to five years ago. I mean, General Flynn plead guilty to lying to Congress when the two FBI agents that originally interviewed him concluded he wasn’t lying.
I wouldn’t have too much of a problem with all these process crimes being pursued if I thought the law was being applied equally. When James Clapper, a man who admitted publicly he lied to Congress, and Susan Rice, a woman who was also proven publicly to have lied to Congress, skated on the same charges, that was a bridge too far for me. The law must be applied equally to all parties.
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First you’re wrong. It was never about testimony to Congress. It was a civil depo taken while president over matters prior to becoming president. So that’s a bit of hair splitting.
Second, lots of “stuff” has happened since the inauguration. Including: intimidation of Cohen, dangling pardons, firing Comey, pressuring the AG, pressuring Comey, several meetings with Putin in which no one knows what was said between them, covering for Russian influence in the election over the opinions of every intel agency we have.
Third everyone charged with lying has plead guilty. The only one holding out was charged less than a week ago. Flynn, Cohen, Papadopolous, and Gates have all said: I lied. Not really questions of fact any longer.
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Irony? I don’t give a shit about the dumbass in the White House or your dumbass. I didn’t vote for him, don’t give a shit if he is impeached and like wise for your dumbass. How much income I receive vs. how much I pay out is all I give a damn about in politics.
You think being a dick here is a feature, while you are just a meme.
The most entertaining thing about you sometimes I usually don’t read the playpen the day it launches. I wait a day or two and see your replies and timestamps. You hold so much value in the last word, you feel justified in your responses because eventually people move on and you can’t. Its how you tell yourself you are correct. Your mental health is hilarious to me.
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Man. Napolean and mg are combined to make Sonny Corleone and Derek is their Carlo Rizzi. Lol.
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I wouldn’t set either up to be killed nor would I punch one of their sisters in the face to do it, but thanks for knowing that if this blog we’re the Godfather it would be I who coordinated with Barzini to set up Sonny to get shot on the causeway. I outlive Sonny!! It’s a strange metaphor, but I’ll take it. Thanks!!
Winning!
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Oh hell yeah! What do you get for a blog comments section win these days?
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1 hamberder with confeve!!
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You are so lucky.
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I’m late to the party this week. I’m not sure if you are asking for an actual answer or if you are just looking for another opportunity to call everyone who disagrees with you a racist. In the off chance you are serious in your post, the issue lies with those that have been accused. Paul Manafort and Roger Stone are a part of the political class that can be described as “amoral hired guns”. The Democrats have the exact same type of people. The best example is John Podesta. Manafort is essentially being charged with tax fraud for not declaring lobbying income on behalf of the Ukraine (i.e. in direct opposition to the desires of Russia). Roger Stone is, ironically, being accused of covering up a non-crime. In reality though, this is not different from the recent times where James Clapper and James Comey have been caught telling lies under oath to Congress. They were not charged though (and neither is an amoral hired gun… I think they were both trying to protect the FBI and its mission).
Nothing is related to the mythical (and nonsensical) “Trump / Russia Collusion” narrative. Trump knows it is BS. This is why he keeps acting like it is a which hunt. I firmly believe that Meuller and those at the top of the investigation untook the job at hand in good faith. It has been the media turned this into a witch hunt… that has since prompted Trumps mole hunt.
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You’re not informed. Manafort was a lobbyist for PRO—RUSSIAN Ukrainian pols. Do your research.
If it’s a non-crime, why cover it up? Just tell it. You’re under oath right?
If it’s a witch hunt why won’t trump agree to be interviewed or testify under oath?
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I said Trump thinks it is a witch hunt. Why would he testify in person if he thinks it is a witch hunt. I think the FBI was doing their due diligence and the media turned the atmosphere into a “witch hunt” for ratings. I have said that for months. As far as I can tell, the following article is most likely the closest interpretation of what has actually happened.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/425033-witch-hunt-or-mole-hunt-times-bombshell-blows-up-all-theories
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I’m sure proximity has a lot to do with it, but, Matthews Cafeteria in Tucker is where I go for fried schickens. If I’m picking up drive-thru chicken, though, it’s Bojangles.
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Paula Deen’s in Savannah. Hog Heaven in Pawleys Island.
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Hogbody, have you ever tried Mrs. Wilkes boarding house’s fried chicken? Prefer it over Paula’s
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Mrs. Wilkes is better than Paula’s in every conceivable way. I have no beef with Paula. Mrs. Wilkes is just better.
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Agreed. Family-style servings take the risk out of it.
Also made some good friends at Mrs. Wilkes by just standing in line.
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Paula Deen, the most successful fraud in history.
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Mert’s in Uptown Charlotte has some damn good fried chicken. Try to go at least once everytime I go to see my daughters.
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I’d go to Applebees before I went to Paula Deen’s. Comment above is correct, Mrs Wilkes is the place to go for fried chicken in Savannah. Also, sounds odd for a BBQ joint but Southern Soul has delicious Fried Chicken on Sundays.
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Man, I have to opt for the vege plate at Mert’s. I can get fried bird at Prices but Mert rocks the soul food, imo (not that chicken from hot oil isn’t soul food, but you get my meaning)
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The Root, linked below, LOL..The shark has been jumped.
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Wow, ol’ Wilford Brimley is still going strong. I remember him from Cocoon and that Our House TV series from the 80’s, and I thought he was old back then. Good for him.
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Since I can’t eat Wife Savers chicken any more, I just walk across the tracks to Gus’ World Famous Fried Chicken…..it sho am off da chain boweeees👍🏼
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I have a real chicken issue upcoming, and I’m scared. Last summer the Medico said we have borderline high BP, elevated glucose, triglycerides in the 330 range, and 20 lbs overweight. I have to admit she scared me a little. So I did what was suggested, started an exercise program, cut down on drinking and avoided fried stuff. Portion control, you know. It worked. January 10, 2019 everything was back to normal and down 15 lbs.
Lo and behold, who should show up in town but Golden Corral. I realize I’m going to be lambasted for this and I know it’s wrong to feel this way but I can’t help it. Their fried chicken (fresh out of the fat) and macaroni and cheese is kryptonite for me. Especially at lunch after a workout. I’m doomed. I may have to leave town.
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P.S.
It’s not open yet, but they are pouring the parking lot today.
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I’m not a fried chicken connoisseur but when Cracker Barrel has their home style fried chicken on the dinner special its pretty damn good. Some chain places do wind up with good cooks now and then.
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Cracker Barrell is my guilty pleasure. I usually get the grill pork chop, but sometimes go for the fried catfish.
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I love Cracker Barrel. Last time I was there I had some awesome Trout.
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Cracker Barrel??? It’s getting too be about supper time for you guys, isn’t it?
jk
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Not trying to be trite or anything, but just don’t go or even turn into the parking lot. I know some who are so disciplined when it comes to food and overall health that you can put all of their favorite cheat foods right in front of them, and they won’t dare touch it. Most of us, however, need to keep ourselves away from it, thus its never a good idea to pack your fridge or pantry with junk if you don’t have the willpower to not eat it.
Animal proteins of most stripes are being shown more and more to be quite bad for you, and frying them in oil, then consuming only makes matters that much worse. On very rare occasions I’ll eat fried chicken or wings, but man do I feel miserable afterwards; sometimes for a day or longer. That alone without all the science tells me that stuff obviously isn’t good for you.
Congrats on your success and keep it up.
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Well, that would probably work but I’m thinking more along the lines of a training collar.
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LOL! Whatever works, I guess. Good luck to you.
And humans are omnivores. It’s all good to me, and my cardiologist agrees. 🙂
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Senator, I don’t wade into the Playpen often – mainly because I don’t care much about everyone’s individual opinions on Trump and Obama. But I was wondering what your opinion of this feature is. After doing it for a while, are you glad you began it? Does it make the blog more rewarding for you? Or at least less of a pain in the butt?
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There are two things about it I like a lot. One, it is kind of fun to introduce topics of a light personal nature, like fried chicken preferences. Two, it’s done a good job of cleaning up political comment threads that were getting in the way of readers’ enjoyment of and participation in commenting. And judging from the number of emails and PMs I’ve gotten about it, I’d say a lot of readers feel the same way.
No regrets, in other words.
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To the extent that it has cleaned up the comments in the football posts, I agree. Consider me a fan of that result.
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Seriously, I appreciate that.
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Ditto.
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Yes.
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Me, three
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And we have a winner……!
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It seems like the playpen is a safety valve on a pressure cooker for some. If they did not have it once a week to vent their political opinion, they would probably literally and figuratively explode. For some of us (even though we do have political opinions) it is fun just to poke the bear and watch them go off.
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I could not agree with you more🍻
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Yep – as I said last week, I’m done with talking politics, but occasionally throwing something out there – like chum in the water for sharks – can be fun to see others take the bait and run with whatever diatribe they have pent-up inside. Other than that, those on both the right and left have become so irrational and hostile to opinions other than their own that it simply isn’t worth engaging anymore with anyone; especially since it seems 99% of us are only interested in affirmation, not information.
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Shhh. You know Derek can hear you, right? He mad, bro.
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The Teddy Bear on here is easily riled…and I agree, it’s funny to watch, within limits.
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Fella’s, even that shit gets old….
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Just keep scrolling DIW.
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Amen
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Maryland Fried Chicken. N. Slappey Blvd., Albany
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Hometown. How are things in Albany?
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Albany’s the same ol’ Albany. Excellent brewery downtown, Pretoria Fields. ‘Bout the only change
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Ya beat me to it! The Maryland on Oakridge ain’t bad either. I miss Pap’s in Sylvester, though.
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As a Sylvester native, I second this comment. My mom wouldn’t fry chicken. She would just send my dad to the railroad tracks to pick up a box of it.
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Well, 2 old boys from Sylvester on here. Small world..
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Can we talk Georgia basketball in the playpen? This team is really bad. Ball security is non-existent. Team really lacks leadership. I actually thought they would be better. I guess there is next year.
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The results are about the same as before, but I enjoy watching this team more. Did you not see them scorch Texas on Saturday? Texas just beat Kansas last night, and beat UNC at the start of the season.
The Cage Dawgs are a work in progress, but without a true PG, the team is hamstrung. You’re right about ball security, really bad. But overall, the offense is more fun to watch and appears to be getting better. Less standing around like the last 9 years. I think Crean will improve the team and get us into the tournament, but not this year. The SEC is too tough.
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The basketball team is in dire need of a true point guard.
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Last night was really bad. We threw away a rare winnable road game. I have a lot of faith in Crean right now but he’s having to do a full tear down to the fundamentals in order to install his system. We’ve got talent and the system is way better than Fox’s, but we don’t have a PG to make it work. It is a lot like what GT may experience this year after Johnson.
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Yeah, last night was frustrating. I felt like we were the more talented team, but we couldn’t make a free throw, or protect the ball. If Arkansas had shown any interest in rebounding they could have won by 30.
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The SEC got much better, while Foxy stood still, if not regressed…
And the Senator is right, we need a guard.
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Guard play is atrocious. Just awful.
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We’re trending for the number 1 player in the country right now. If we get him, we could take a huge leap next year with him, Claxton and Hammonds.
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I’m sure he can play immediately!
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Speaking of cold weather and cancelling mail service, did you see they literally have to set the rails on fire in Chicago for the trains to run? Insane. Who would live there?
https://jalopnik.com/chicago-is-so-ridiculously-cold-that-the-railroad-track-1832177510
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Lewis Grizzard loved it!
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Chicago is a great city. Just not in the winter
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It’s an “ok” city not in the winter.
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All kidding aside, I agree with you. I really like Chicago during the few months of non-winter.
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He referred to his time in Chicago as being held prisoner
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Current weather conditions
Old town of residence St Louis -4
Current town of residence Ft Worth 39 ( and will be close to 60 later today)
If I want that kind of cold ever again in my life, I will hop on a plane.
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“I was born in a city the called the ‘Windy City’ when it’s around 10 above and it’s about 12 inches of snow outside, and the hawk — I’m speakin’ of the almighty hawk, Mr. Wind — when he blows down the street around 35, 40 miles an hour, it’s just like a giant razorblade blowin’ down the street, and all the clothes in the world can’t help you.”
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I’d much rather put up with the Bear than the Hawk. That wind cuts right through me. Had a buddy that was held hostage in Chicago for a few years. He said his eyes would freeze shut while he walked to the bus stop.
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It was cold looking over the Imjin River!
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I had the pleasure of walking down the street in Chicago at night in the winter with the wind howling. I have never been so cold in my life. When I lived (was held prisoner in St Louis), during winter I would always console myself by looking at the weather in Chicago (where I almost wound up) and told myself it could be worse.
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Great city to visit, but I would never want to live there again.
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The burners melt the ice, enabling the switches to work.
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I’m wondering what GTP Nation thinks about a possible Howard Schultz 3rd-party presidential candidacy.
I’ll probably never vote for Trump, but I could support a more centrist Democratic candidate, or maybe a 3rd-party centrist. Popular opinion seems to hold that a 3rd-party candidate like Schultz would take votes away from the Democrat, but I wonder if the 3rd party might also take away some Trump votes.
I’m concerned that the Democrats seem to be moving further to the left rather than further to the center & think this is bad strategy for them & that they may actually be inviting a 3rd party into the fray in 2020.
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I’m really having a hard time swallowing another billionaire who thinks he knows what’s best for America. Whether you like Warren or not, this is a pretty good take:
Not to mention for a guy who wants to be a uniter, he sure was throwing out “Un-American” a lot yesterday. Hard pass.
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It’s interesting to watch the Balkanization of the Democratic party. The front runner is the oldest candidate ever (white man) with a long history of anti-progressive votes. There’s a fake Hispanic, a fake Indian, at least two blacks, men, women, and who knows what else will develop.
While Schultz may strike the wrong tone, Warren and the progressive wing’s sincere belief that no tax is too high probably won’t sit well with many big donors. That’s something Hillary understood and why she raised more than any candidate in history.
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Agreed on all points.
A third party centrist candidate (Perot) hurt Bush 41 slightly more than Bill and Clinton won big in the electoral college.
A third party candidate like a Green Party Candidate probably hurts dems more in a place like Florida than a Perot v.2.
A “country club” republican alternative probably hurts Trump more in the end. If the third party guy is palatable to right leaning folks but not Obama/Clinton voters, it probably helps the democrat.
It does really suck that the left leaning candidates are getting all the air, but I’m hoping for Biden (not necessarily a fan but he’d be good in the Midwest) to come in and lock things down. You’d think the opportunity would be there to reposition the Democratic party to what it was pre-civil rights act, but ideologues do what ideologues do.
The center is there for the taking. It would be nice if someone took it. Unfortunately both sides know that party nominations are decided by the assholes on both extremes so they cater to them.
I keep hoping that we’ll reach a demographic tipping point that will normalize things. I think we’re getting close to the point where maximizing turn out on ID politics is going to run out of steam. Once we get away from that maybe we can actually discuss the relative merits of policies rather than voting based on what we look like.
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You raise some interesting points Derek, although you’re guilty of regularly joining the shouting party too.
I know a lot of folks like Biden, but I read an article that made some great points on why he shouldn’t run. Other candidates would be forced to tear him down and he has lots of votes from the past that were normal then (Clarence Thomas, DOMA, tough on crime, etc) but are totally unacceptable to today’s Democrats.
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Shouting doesn’t equal being an ideologue you know? I’m talking about the nature of policies not of volume.
The primary schedule is Iowa, NH, SC and Super Tuesday though right?
It’s not like we start off in Berkeley, CA. The winnowing process should be helpful to Joe. Also I’d hope that enough democrats would keep the main thing the main thing. Just fucking win, period.
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Your first reaction when people disagree is to insult their intelligence and then you pile on. Go look at the string of comments you made above. You’re one of the prime reasons we had to have a playpen in the first place, so come down off that moral high horse and realize you’re part of the problem.
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Not exactly. The people that actually want to have an honest discussion were treated respectfully. See above and below.
I don’t think any of my rude responses was to an intelligent rejoinder. You can recheck them if you like.
Seems to me that the fans of prez twitter bully are fine with assholes as long as they agree with the asshole.
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People are generally much more tolerant of assholes if they are on the same team or agree with them. That goes for humans in general, not just Republicans.
You’ve got a quick trigger on the rude responses. IMO that’s not justifiable even if you don’t like the other person and it certainly doesn’t make anything better.
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I’d love a more centrist candidate but haven’t seen one in a while. It seems like extremism can only be met with more extremism. “Compromise” is a dirty word.
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You might not have liked her but Hillary was pretty damn centrist. Shitty candidate, maybe person, but centrist. Romney was pretty centrist as well. Also a shitty candidate.
No party has nominated a centrist who actually won since Bill.
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I’m not going to get into a debate with you, but I would suggest W was pretty darn centrist. Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, and the attempt to provide amnesty as part of a broader immigration reform are fairly center policies to me. If 9/11 doesn’t happen, no way would he have gotten us into the Middle East.
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Cheney and the neo-cons drag him way off the middle.
Not paying for the Medicare expansion, either war or the two tax cuts for the rich doesn’t help either.
Take away Iraq and the profligate spending and tax cuts and I might agree a little. But that’s a lot of stuff.
Keep in mind too that he thought his dad, the centrist elected before Clinton, was too centrist and that’s why he wasn’t re-elected. Bush tried very hard to be a “conservative stalwart ” to the evangelicals and to the supply-siders and for the nut jobs who thought we could bring Jeffersonian Democracy to the desert.
One could argue that “infrastructure” or “tariffs” place Trump as in the middle too. I think you have to take the entire picture.
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I think a 3rd party candidate has never come close to winning. It may happen one day and I think it’s possible the GOP could see a split between the evangelicals and the socially progressive conservatives which would also pull a bunch of people currently voting Democrat as well. HOWEVER, this coming 2020 election is WAY too important and the stakes are much too high to risk dividing the anti-Trump vote. That motherfucker has got to go.
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I personally love it. The two parties both suck something terrible so the more options the better. I am interested but I am not sure I would vote for him. I like people with some business sense in Washington and he seems to want to do a good job. Anything is better than voting for more lawyers….
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Ouch. 😉
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Sorry but there are enough of them. I would like more people from other professions. I don’t vote for lawyers and locally I am against voting for more real estate developers.
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Lawyers are good for arguing and billing but not for getting things done.
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Fucking Abe Lincoln!?! What did he get done?
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It’s like these rubes don’t even understand emergency powers. I mean some ideologues may argue against arresting Supreme Court justices, newspaper editors, state legislators, and everyone else who might believe that war is bad. Or that seizing private property, declaring martial law, suspending habeas corpus, and acting outside the Constitution isn’t something presidents should do. But we know that to make an omelet, you’ve got to break some eggs.
#EmergencyPowersAreUnlimited
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And FDR? Lawyers for preznit?!? Come on!!
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Thank God for internment camps. Otherwise all those U.S. citizens of Japanese ancestry probably would have been running around kamikazeing all kids of shit. Millions will die!
Also, if it hadn’t been for the New Deal, the Great Depression may never have happened. And if the Great Depression had never happened, we never would have expanded government beyond anything ever imagined by the Framers.
Can you even imagine life without the NLRB or TVA? What kind of hellish dystopia would we be in without Fannie Mae to make sure mortgages never lead to a financial crisis?
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Of course, don’t go thinking that our support for internment camps and emergency powers wielded by racist presidents mean that Derek and I support Orange Man enforcing border security or building a wall claiming emergency powers. Of course not.
I mean, it might be consistent with our other positions, but you’re not acknowledging our FEELINGS. And clearly applying immigration law to women and children is a million times worse than anything ever done by any politician in history.
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Um, there’s this thing called history and substantive fact. The Neo-liberal politics of the 20’s were an abject failure that lead to the Great Depression. The New Deal was a response to the Depression. I suggest you research the background on FDR, he was hardly a Liberal until the shit hit the fan. Please provide your source of information that says the New Deal policies caused the Great Depression.
I like you Napoleon, I have a couple golf buddies that are Libertarian freaks like you. I enjoy kicking their butts at Golf and politics.
Let me give you an example of facts, reason, logic. Your son will have to be able to shoot an average of 68 on Championship courses in order to have an outside chance of success as a pro golfer. I’m off to the Waste Management Open this weekend, Member Club Passes. 😉
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You’re correct that the New Deal was a response to the economic crash of the early 1930s. The New Deal simply caused that depression to last longer than any other.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409
And thanks for the tip on golf. I had no idea it was hard to be a professional. Have fun on your trip.
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Thomas Jefferson? Shit bag! Lawyers?? Come on!!
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John Adams?!? Another dumb lawyer? As preznit?!? No way!
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Teddy Roosevelt? Terrible lawyer president!!
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Got any examples from my lifetime?
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Richard Nixon
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How old are you?
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38
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Assuming you were born before the Reagan inauguration, two of the three most effective/popular presidents in your lifetime were law school educated. 4 of the 5 non lawyers were terrible/unpopular. Not bad numbers.
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Who were the 3 most effective/popular presidents of my lifetime?
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The Democrats! Duh!11!1!!!
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I know its Obama and Clinton number 1 and 2. I am guessing GHW is 2.
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Reagan, Obama, Clinton were the popular/effective ones. Last two were lawyers.
Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43 and Trump- not lawyers.
So one effective/popular non lawyer president. Both lawyers were effective/popular.
The other 4 non-lawyers kinda sucked at it.
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Don’t take it personal. I am sure you are in the business for the right reasons….
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The thing that you don’t understand until you go to law school is how much the law tells you about society, history and the relationship between people and their government. It’s one thing to understand a rule and how to apply it. It’s altogether a different thing to understand why we have the rule.
For example: why do we have rules against self incrimination? Warrantless searches? Marital privilege?
That education gives you a basis for having a unique and different understanding for things of utmost importance to you as a citizen.
I’m not surprised in the least that the vast majority of our best presidents have a legal background and an inordinate amount of failures didn’t.
Not all non lawyers have been bad presidents. But most bad presidents have been non-lawyers.
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The great thing about law school is the elitism it teaches. What’s the reason behind the laws we have? RACISM! SEXISM! ISLAMAPHOBIA! WHITE SUPREMACISM! Who do we need in charge of everyone’s lives? LAWYERS!
That’s just the kind of hubris it takes to be effective at bossing people around. And other professions just don’t have it. Do you think an engineer could earnestly believe that he knew more about banking than every banker in the country put together? Probably not. But a lawyer was born with that kind of innate superiority.
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I’m sure that a degree in psychiatry would be helpful in some other contexts.
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No, man. Lawyers are the answer to all the problems. Need an expert in medicine? Call a lawyer. Economy starting to lag? Lawyers can fix that. Need some Middle East strategy for simultaneously fighting and supporting terrorists? Who else but a lawyer could work that out?
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Anybody ever consider that the Mel Brooks’ movie Young Frankenstein is a true story and that there is someone actually walking around with “Abbie Normal’s” brain?
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Don’t change the subject, Derek. We were discussing our love of the all-powerful state. Especially when it is run by the elite class of infallible lawyers.
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I actually appreciate your honest answers when you give them. I think most all people here believe in the rule of law. I personally find a lot of it interesting and have taken some law classes as required for my degrees. My experience with lawyers in business, in personal life, and as a jurist give me an entirely different view of the profession. I don’t find it to be as noble of a profession as you do.
Going back to the original question, I like Shultz just like I liked Trump. I shouldn’t bash lawyers because I dislike career politicians just as much (even though the two seem to overlap a lot). A successful politician gets elected. Their job is to stay elected. Standing up and accomplishing things makes you a target and hurts reelection chances. We have a bunch of self serving assholes in our government and I personally don’t like the direction of it (going on long before Trump). I like outsiders from business, especially businesses that are not tied to the government. They are going to get my vote every time.
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I think you’re taking what I’m saying a bit far. I don’t think being a lawyer necessarily makes you a better person. I just think there is a helpful background there if a person wants to use it for good.
It just makes you think, should you choose to, about why things are done a certain way. For example, I’ll hear “stupid uncle watching Fox News” shit like:
Why should we pay for the UN?
Or why are we giving Egypt aid money?
If you’re a lawyer, your background should tell you there are reasons for these things and a history and a background and that perfect doesn’t have to be the enemy of the acceptable. Shit’s complicated but can be made worse with effort and/or stupidity.
That said, lawyers are no different than any other group of people. Some good. Most shitty.
In terms of being a politician tho, there are some unique advantages to the background both in terms of education and in terms of dealing with people whose interests are diametrically opposed to your own.
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What it sounds like your saying is a legal background gives you critical thinking skills. This ability is not exclusive to legal minds. Most people who find a moderate amount of success in life can diagnose a problem and come to a solution.
I am not sure about those ‘unique advantages’ you speak of when confronting differing opinions. It seems like the only skill a legal background provides is an ability to lie…
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Critical thinking within a context though. I think context is important.
You may need critical thinking to lead troops in battle or to get Apollo 13 back to earth, but I’m not sure the rules of the game are the same.
In law your always dealing with people and their problems and their interests. Same thing in politics. Whether you’re doing it for good or bad or just for money, if you’re going to be a good lawyer or a good politician, you’d better know people and not just the ones who like you.
As far as lying, if what you’re saying is training makes you good at it? Maybe. Bill Clinton was particularly skilled at it. If you’ve ever read the actual transcript of Clinton and the “it depends what is is” it’s a tour de force of bullshit.
A willing and transparent liar tho? No legal education is required.
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They also may great Governors. Huey Long! Hey he got a lot done too
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That fucking no. 1 in the world economically and militarily shit had gotten old hadn’t it? I mean who was in charge of that? Start over!
You fuckers could be talked into firing Belichick. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
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Exactly. Like Dory sings, “Just keep borrowing. Just keep borrowing.”
We’ll worry about the collapse after it happens.
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https://news.yahoo.com/why-trump-apos-1-5-120826303.html
https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/854FC7D2-2490-11E9-A66F-57EC132F7131
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Who gives a shit about $1.5 trillion over 10 years? We need some STIMULUS over here. Medicare for all. Free college. Free housing. More wars.
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We loved Dooky Chase’s in New Orleans!
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I wanted to try that when I went out for the LSU game, but didn’t have the time.
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We stayed through the weekend after the Sugar Bowl so, even though it rained, we got to do a bunch of fun stuff.
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If pressed for time, there is also a Dooky Chase in the MSY airport outside security.
Airport vibe, but the food is still excellent.
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I ate in the one at the New Orleans Airport. Pretty damn good.
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They opened a Gus’s in Chamblee that I have really enjoyed. Only draw back is the price. 8 piece dark is $20. Borderline ridiculous.
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Agreed. Gus’s is damn good. Since you’re in the area, if you like wings I would recommend Clay’s Sports Cafe. Reasonable prices and cheap draft beer. Service aint great, it’s in a strip center off Roswell Rd, but we always go back.
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Clay’s wings are good.
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I would be laying eggs myself if I ate 8 pieces of Gus’s chicken.
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Throw in a couple of Jalapenos and they’ll be sunny side up.
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Is that the same people as in Memphis?
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This is really sad. The guy was one of my heroes growing up. Got Sr. always talked about how tough he was, so that made him REALLY tough in my eyes. The part about his son quitting football brought back a painful memory for me as well.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25876093/bu-cte-center-says-tommy-nobis-had-most-severe-form-cte
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Yeah, I tacked that article onto the discussion about lawsuits in the NCAA yesterday. CTE will either kill or substantially change football.
I forget who it was, but a former pro was talking about his son and how he wouldn’t let him play football until he was older and they could talk seriously about the consequences. The ex-player used football to get out of a bad economic situation, so he appreciated that, but he said his son doesn’t have the same need. Therefore he’s not interested in his son risking permanent brain injury for it. I know if I had a son, I wouldn’t allow him to play football early, and maybe not at all.
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My youngest gave it a shot his 8th grade season and ended up with a serious concussion. (Tanglefoot fell and smacked his head on the track during summer conditioning. Vomiting, blurred vision, the whole thing. It scared the shit out of me.) He was cleared to play in the fall, but the kids that had been playing since rag tag were so far ahead of him he rarely saw the field. Point is, if they don’t start early they really don’t have a chance to compete unless they are uncommonly physically gifted, especially at a loaded program. It’s a catch 22 for sure.
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I played up to 8th grade … promptly got trucked by a kid on our 9th grade team who ended up at F$U and eventually the NFL at running back (I’m sure I got more than my bell rung). I stuck it out to the end of the season, but there was no way I was going back out the next year to be a live tackling dummy.
High school golf was a heck of a lot safer.
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I made it one season farther and gave it up for the same reason.
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Do tell.
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Marion Butts, Worth County HS, Florida State, San Diego Chargers
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What was amazing about him is that he didn’t play on the varsity as a freshman.
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I allowed my son to play from ages 8-12. And then the CTE stories started to break. Fortunately, the program he was in was horribly mismanaged and he grew disillusioned with the sport. I was seriously considering forbidding him from playing, but he voluntarily switched to golf.
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As much as I love watching football, it would be hard for me to tell my son not to play, and just as hard to allow my son to play.
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Yeah. I was in a similar boat. It was just good luck that my son announced that he wanted to drop football to pursue golf. I certainly encouraged that.
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Your son has a .0003 percent chance of making the PGA Tour:
Click to access The%20Path%20to%20the%20PGA%20TOUR.pdf
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I feel sorry for those people that eat fried chicken weekly. Lucky for me I eat it daily so I’m in the clear.
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This might belong in the Clemson post below, but whether Clemson subtly encouraged attendance at the WH or not, there is a good argument for going as a team function, but on the other hand, there is a good argument for not going where your team is only a pawn to draw attention to a really needy personality.
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Nice fence straddle. Do you want me to get you a bag of frozen peas?
😉
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Y’all can bite me. I’m just pointing out there are reasons to go that have nothing to do with politics, and reasons to not go that also have little to nothing to do with politics.
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Ah, I was just messing with you. I got your point.
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And the natural inheriter of the Tony Barnhart slot is!
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How should we react to the public spat between the intel chiefs and the president over the last two days?
Shouldn’t they kinda sorta be on the same page?
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Anyone else notice that Atlanta is under siege from Pepsi?
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Pepsi is an official Super Bowl sponsor. They’re taking advantage of being deep in enemy territory.
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That explains it. I moved from Atlanta to Toccoa last year and went through on business the other day and Pepsi crap is everywhere. I also don’t watch much TV in the off-season other than Netflix
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If you haven’t seen it, go see “They Shall Not Grow Old”, the WW1 documentary by Peter Jackson. Excellent film with amazing cinematic effects. It is limited release, so you have to look for it, but it’s worth it if you can find it.
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Definitely going to see this one. I was fortunate enough last year to visit the Vosges Mountain region and the area between them and Paris. I read “All Quiet on the Western Front” for the first time in years while I was there. There are still outlines of the trenches and farmers still get killed by buried shells. Dugouts are used for root cellars. My great grandfather was there during the war, and it was a unique feeling to be looking at perhaps the same landscape he did one hundred years ago, albeit much more peaceful for me.
I can say it is a very pretty part of the world, and French country wine and cuisine are all that you’ve heard and more.
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I saw it and can confirm it is excellent! Stay for the part about how they made it at the end. That part made me appreciate the film even more.
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JCT Kitchen on Howell Mill is really hard to top.
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Sad to say, the best fried chicken in my small NorCal town is at the Sav-Mart grocery store. Unless you want to drive 20 miles to the nearest Chic-fil-a
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The best reason never to leave the south, is the food. Doesn’t take long to miss greens and corn bread and biscuits and fried chicken and country ham and…
Longest I ever made it was about 6 weeks. And that was too damn long.
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You learn to adapt. I’ve been out here since 1995. Ordering from the internet has greatly eased the pain. I order stone ground grits fairly regularly. And every October, I order in some Gator Tail for our annual Ga/Fla viewing party.
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That’s painful to hear … I couldn’t deal with a lack of Southern fried chicken.
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Favorite condiment for fried chicken? Honey?, Gravy (white or brown)? BBQ? Ketchup? Ranch? Blue cheese? Buffalo Sauce? Other?
I’m partial to all, but use a little honey with some red pepper flake and you’ve hit the spot.
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Maybe white gravy, but if it’s cooked and spiced right, nothing.
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Chickfila sauce! (Most of what little fried chicken I eat comes courtesy of CFA)
The best fried chicken needs no sauce.
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My vote for fried chicken goes to Publix.
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