Well ain’t this a kick in the pants:
Clemson officials still don’t know or aren’t saying how three football players tested positive for an illegal performance-enhancing drug prior to the Dec. 29 Cotton Bowl. But as the program continues to appeal the suspensions, head coach Dabo Swinney acknowledged it could have come from within — mistakenly.
Swinney told The Post and Courier that the process is out of his hands and that the university’s legal team is still looking into all possibilities, which includes the chance that Clemson gave the players something the athletic department thought was cleared by the NCAA.
Dabo’s not saying that because it’s some random thought that just popped into his head. He’s clearing the stage for what’s to come. Hey, Clemson won the national championship, so it’s not like there are going to be repercussions he can’t handle, but if you’re one of the three kids who were banned from playing in the CFP, that’s small comfort.
That being said, if the program were giving players PEDs inadvertantly or not, Dabo’s lucky only three tested positive.
Get The Picture 
Vacate!!!!!
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But that can’t be! All my Clemson friends insisted that the substance could come from anything, ANYTHING! And Dabo is so Lordly. Why they’re perfect!
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How do you accidentally give someone PEDs? That reminds me of a recent Live PD episode where the cops pulled over a car and asked the weird acting driver if they can search his car for drugs. After a 5 minute rant about how he’s never seen or used drugs in his entire life, he reluctantly let them search.
To the surprise of none, they found meth under his front seat, and he was shocked – shocked I tell you – that somehow drugs turned up in his car. He then proceeded to tell the cops that he accidentally must have grabbed it from a friend’s house thinking it was something else, as again he wouldnt dare touch that stuff.
The cops nodded as they cuffed and stuffed him…sadly the NCAA will merely nod only, followed by patting Clemson on the back, apologizing for the inconvenience, and going about their merry way.
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Why the hell do people let the cops search? I don’t do drugs. And I wouldn’t give cops permission to search my car. If I knew there were drugs there, you had better believe I would say no.
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Because people are idiots. On top of that, you really should never speak to the police, as it can only hurt you, never help you.
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Does anyone happen to have the link to the video shared a few years back here on what to do if pulled over and they request a search? I searched a while back and could not dig it up. I wanted to share with a friend.
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Meanwhile, at the Kolton Houston home…
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Even after the years have passed, this still has to be one of the must unjust decisions by the NCAA EVER.
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I agree, total Bullshit!
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Well, if the school was giving players PEDs and those players participated in winning games, why shouldn’t the school have to forfeit those victories?
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Too late to find out.
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Will Greer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cheaters.
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Well for God’s Sake – don’t do what Georgia has done. Open your books, your emails, admit to everything you did wrong. There is ‘zero’ reward for admitting your wrong and doing things the right way. Take the North Carolina route and fight on all fronts, educating the NCAA that if they come after you – then they are going to spend money and be in what is equivalent to a bar fight.
I say this being a ‘do the right thing’ kind of person… But after watching Georgia get slapped around more than once for some very minor crap; if I were Clemson, I would make this as difficult as possible for the NCAA
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UNC hired a former FBI Chief Counsel – Kenneth Wainstein, UVA grad – and gave him free rein of the entire university system – archives and employees – and then let him coordinate with the NCAA to find what they could find. Full transparency. Months of digging by a full team of investigators.
UNC fought the NCAA’s interpretation of the evidence that came out of that investigation. Because the NCAA walked away from similar cases at Auburn and Michigan. All they really told Sankey was this: if we get punished for something your organization said wasn’t the NCAA’s business at Auburn and Michigan, but now it is, then you’re going to have to explain it to a court. And Sankey blinked. Blame Sankey if you want. UNC’s new administrators did what they were supposed to do – expose the rot, clean it out, and protect the university from grand-standing ass-hats like Sankey.
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So, Ostarine does not occur naturally and only gets used in muscle building products. But it could come from anything…
An offensive lineman, a defensive lineman, and a blocking tight end all test positive, out of 10 guys tested. I’d love to know the position groups and playing status of the other 7. 30% hit rate, in a NCAA testing regimen that nationally produces a hit rate a fraction of that.
Dabo is so full of shit. Makes his entire “we do things the right way” righteous blather all the more eye-rolling. Please let this be the moment the national press takes two giant steps back from his Andy Griffith routine.
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Sounds to me like somebody may be ‘a little pregnant’.
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No chance the athletic department thought that a sarm had been cleared and your 100% right in your assessment that he’s setting the stage for what’s to come.3 out of 10 testing positive is alarming.wonder if s&c forgot to give them the masking agent.
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I realize the cynical approach for enjoying a, kind of, rival program getting put under the spotlight but trace amounts of many substances found in over the counter supplements/ products can linger in a person’s system for weeks/months/years (Kolton Houston). I don’t condone cheating, or taking drugs that are bad for you, but the standard needs to be: is the amount present enough to give a player a competitive advantage? Was it the result of an approved procedure to improve the athlete’s health, or taken as a way to give them an edge? The number of these products being identified increase every year, and the places they are found to occur in small amounts multiply.
I don’t know if there was any intent to cheat or not, nor if it was widespread amongst the team. I don’t think it contributed to Clemson’s ability to wade through that soft conference, or a difference maker in what they did in the title game to Alabama. Let Dabo and the NCAA continue to look at it and take action if there was something evil going on, I doubt there was.
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Kolton’s was NOT and OTC supplement, It was an injection given post surgery to help with healing/rehab. It was nothing unethical. I’m sure the doctor that injected him has given the same thing to hundreds of post op patients over the years for the same reason. I Kolton’s case, he just had the misfortune of having to deal with the NCAA who equated it with cheaters using PEDs to can an edge. Kolton went as far as having surgery to excise the area where the injection was given to FINALLY get back into the NCAA’s parameters. Still one of the most egregious decisions things I have seen the NCAA do.
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“…is the amount present enough to give a player a competitive advantage?”
This is the $64k question. All these drugs have clearance rates and they are different for each substance, and often enough different in other people for the same substance. It is entirely possible that Clemson gave the substance to all the players, but these three just didn’t metabolize it as fast as the others. No one can prove that, of course, so you go with the standards that you know. Trace amounts that remain in the system are, in general, an indication that higher doses were taken and do lead to a competitive advantage.
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Google Tom Danielson. He was a pro cyclist. He admitted to using PEDs when USADA got serious about Armstrong and Slipstream was trying to do right. Later, he got popped again but the second time he wasn’t actively taking banned substances. Eventually, after a lot of time and money, he was able to clear his name because a legal supplement he was using had been contaminated by the manufacturer.
If the Clemmers were all taking the same supplement from the same source, it’s always possible that they were taking legal supplements that were tainted without their or Clemson’s knowledge. It happens in an industry as un-regulated as supplements. Any athlete subject to testing should avoid supplements. Maybe not so much in football, but track and cycling it’s a huge risk.
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IPTAY shall not stand for this
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If I’m being honest, I think nearly everyone is pushing the PED boundaries at major programs. I just don’t think it’s workout regimens and diet that are bulking every single player up.
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