“Ohio State’s approach to handling this waiver request should be a model for other schools.”

It looks like we’re back to the original theory of the crime.

… Fields’ situation was something entirely different, as a former baseball player shouted racial slurs about him. It’s a situation Smith, an African-American, related to on a personal level.

“I went through some of those situations,” he said. “I understood exactly, personally, how he felt. I’ve been in numerous situations where I was the only African-American in a group and have had an individual attack me. I sympathized with him. I certainly was personally and professionally supportive of his request.”

The Patterson request took eight weeks before the NCAA made its final decision, mostly because of stringent objection by Ole Miss until, finally, the Rebels relinquished their flat-footed stance. The process for Fields was only five weeks, partly because Georgia originally objected before acquiescing and coming to a cordial resolution.

“The institution that the young person is leaving from, in my view, should not have a say in what that young person does,” Smith said. “That makes no sense. Georgia was awesome, by the way. They were phenomenal. But it could have been a situation where they were vindictive, but they weren’t. I just think we’re in a sad state, the way we’re managing it. I hope there’s a better outcome down the road.”

I’m beginning to think I need to add “Sasser’d” to the Lexicon.

Smith, by the way, now takes the position that every football and basketball player should be granted a one-time right to transfer without restriction.  That strikes me as a sensible approach, which means it’s probably doomed.

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45 responses to ““Ohio State’s approach to handling this waiver request should be a model for other schools.”

  1. Jim

    For all of our complaining about McG and B-M, this article makes me think they actually handled the Fields situation as well as they could have. As you pointed out at the time the statements from Fields and others about UGA after the waiver was granted were clearly part of the agreement. And we managed to minimize the damage to our brand – it wasn’t drug thru the racism mud like I feared it might be thru the process

    At the end of the day it’s all about Fields wanting to play and not sit. Sasser was just a means to an end. Could have turned out a lot worse for us

    I hope Ohio never wins another game but I felt that way before Fields transferred

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    • Mayor

      I appreciate what you said in your post but the whole Fields thing was a lie. He didn’t want to sit so he made up a cover story about being hurt emotionally by something a redneck in the stands yelled. If Georgia is such a bad environment why is his sister going there and playing her sport? If I had been AD I never would have consented. It made us look guilty IMHO.

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      • Sasser made this bed, and we all have to sleep in it now.

        It might all very well be overblown BS, but the fact is that no organization wants to die on that hill.

        Anger at Fields for manipulating a corrupt system is misplaced; be angry at the dipshit that gave him and his attorney the fig leaf to hide what they were doing.

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      • Jim

        So you would have preferred we fight it and have Tom Mars, the man who took down Ole Miss, drag us thru the mud all so we can keep a player who didn’t want to be at UGA anymore sit a year. In my opinion that would have been a far worse outcome for us than looking guilty (even though Fields and Ohio State came out afterwards and said we weren’t guilty)

        I get the resentment – hurt feelings he didn’t want to be at UGA anymore, concern he will succeed at Ohio, distaste for the means by which he may or may not have gotten the waiver etc etc – I get it all. But it was an inevitable outcome and the PR for us is much better than the alternative

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      IDK, I’m inclined to say that UGA acted upon Sasser immediately and therefore removed that as an issue or excuse for a transfer. If we’re gonna sit back and say its okay for Fields or anyone else to transfer, that’s okay with me because its a clear cut policy. But allowing Fields to transfer without a legit reason just shows me once again how Greg Mediocrity is out of his league.

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      • He had a reason. You may not like the reason, but it fit squarely within the NCAA’s definition of grounds to transfer.

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        • W Cobb Dawg

          The ‘reason’ he transferred was because he was a backup and wanted to start. Let’s not confuse the truth with a line of b.s. rationalizations and excuses. If others want to accept those rationalizations and salute when its run up the flag pole, that’s their choice. But I ain’t buyin it and felt the way it was handled gave UGA a black eye. The fact that people are still reporting about racial slurs and UGA in the same article supports my point.

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          • Jim

            How would you have handled it differently. You are exactly right as to the reasons for the transfer, btw. I don’t dispute that for a second

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          • If you want to talk about confusion, you’re doing exactly that. He wanted to transfer because he wanted playing time, true. The appeal was over being given a waiver to play immediately. Because of Sasser, he got that.

            Everyone, including Mars and Fields, have gone out of their way to say the waiver wasn’t over the school. If you want to feel slighted, that’s your business.

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        • 79Dawg

          That the Sasser comment constitutes “reason” shows how non-sensical requiring a “reason” is… (Good riddance to Fields by the way – if kids don’t want to be here, we shouldn’t force them to be here, and they should be able to go where they want as long as it is not within the conference or to a future opponent).
          PS – for Gene Smith to claim that Sasser acting like a dumbass being anything near what happened in prior times is complete BS. A single drunk dumbass yelling from halfway across the stadium that no one more than 20 feet from him probably heard would not have a blip on the 60’s/70’s race relations-meter….

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          • Read the NCAA language about transfer waivers. You guys can put quotes around reason to your hearts’ content, but once UGA consented, the NCAA had no choice. Fields’ claim was textbook.

            As far as your PS goes, I don’t think racesplaining to Gene Smith is a winning strategy.

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            • 79Dawg

              I don’t give a damn what the language says – as I said in my post, having any language is pretty non-sensical.
              As for Gene Smith, comparing Fields to guys in the 60s and 70s is also non-sensical, and totally gratuitous… He can’t say “Georgia was great” and then backhandedly imply that our fans are Bull Conner, George Wallace, Lester Maddox and Gene Tallmage – that is BS!

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          • DawgPhan

            Nothing like what happened to Fields ever happen in the 1960’s.

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        • The only reason he had was he was not assured of a starting job the next season. We both know if Fromm was leaving school for whatever reason at the end of 2018 Fields would still be in Athens. I don’t call that legit as every year there 40,000 college football athletes not guaranteed a starting role and 10,700 just in division one. Those numbers assume the 22 slots for a given team are guaranteed which will all know they are not.
          To allow that kind of a transfer is leading us to a royal mess. Now while it is true that everyone of those won’t transfer. How many have to, to really screw up the stability on a team and for the sport? 5%? 10%? 20%? To risk that because some kid is selfish to the point that they want to leave simply because they didn’t get their way the first year, seems like a poor way for society to teach young people about life, commitment, dedication, and endurance and as usual in such circumstances will have an unhappy ending for most all involved.

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          • So now you’re saying it’s not about a waiver so Fields doesn’t have to sit for a year, but that he shouldn’t be allowed to transfer at all?

            Who’s unhappy here, by the way, besides you and Tate Martell? Fields didn’t want to be in Athens anymore, so why would Smart want him to stay?

            You can talk all you want about teaching kids about commitment, but as much as they like to insist otherwise, coaches aren’t being paid to make better men of their players, but to win. If things were really the way you fantasize, Mark Richt would still be coaching in Athens.

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            • “So now you’re saying it’s not about a waiver so Fields doesn’t have to sit for a year, but that he shouldn’t be allowed to transfer at all?” For Fields those two are one and the same. If he KNEW he had to sit out a year more than likely he would have sit that year in Athens and played in 2020.

              “Fields didn’t want to be in Athens anymore, so why would Smart want him to stay?” Again he wasn’t happy with UGA just unhappy not starting.

              “coaches aren’t being paid to make better men of their players, but to win”. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. The good ones and the very few I know personally are sincerely trying to do both. Do those things sometimes have competing interest? Yes. But not really as often as most think.

              “really the way you fantasize, Mark Richt would still be coaching in Athens”
              If they were not Richt would have been fired after 2010.

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              • No need wasting your breath with these “cause” people, it is about the warm and fuzzy feelings of the narrative, never about the facts/reality. Feel free to apply this to so many of the issues of the day that divide us, because it what prevents us from arriving at the solution that could unite us…assuming everyone really desires this result. If it supports the overall philosophy, it doesn’t matter what harm it causes in the real world circumstances.

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                • No need wasting your breath with these “cause” people, it is about the warm and fuzzy feelings of the narrative, never about the facts/reality.

                  Mac, allow Daniel Patrick Moynihan to retort: “You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”

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                • You do well for someone who operates with blinders so often. Your opinion is your right, just as it is others to feel that position is ignoring the obvious because it suits you to have players free to transfer freely. Fields is gone, I am fine with that, but he should be sitting a year for his choice to go D1. To suggest he left because he was uncomfortable with the environment on the UGA campus is simply naive. He exploited a situation because he knew/felt it would get him on the field earlier, as an attorney you appreciate that more than others. Those are the facts as most everyone knows them.

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                • I said in this very post that a good solution would be to allow a one-time, unrestricted player transfer. Hardly the same as what you’re fretting about.

                  “he should be sitting a year for his choice to go D1” is not a fact, as much as you would prefer it to be.

                  Here are some facts:

                  Sasser behaved badly enough that he was dismissed from the baseball program.

                  Fields requested a waiver based on the NCAA’s rule: a waiver will be granted “in cases where the student-athlete was a victim of objective, documented egregious behavior by a staff member or student at the previous institution and the previous institution supports the waiver.”

                  UGA supported the waiver.

                  Again, you may not like the rule, but them’s the facts. What’s not a fact is your assertion that he was uncomfortable with the environment on the UGA campus. Neither he nor his attorney has ever made that claim, because there was no need to. As you can see from the plain language of the NCAA rule, that wasn’t a requirement.

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                • You lost me at him being a victim, but however you want to characterize this to rationalize the actions is certainly your call. I just call BS on the entire way this has evolved, including all the legal posturing, and social engineering by those who are aggrieved by any leaf that rustles. But many hurry to rally in favor of any cause that frees all the poor, enslaved full scholarship athletes, others shake our heads. And we all have that choice, I get it.

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                • Silver Creek Dawg

                  How about this fact Senator? It’s a fact that Sasser and Fields were friends and teammates in the East Cobb baseball program. It’s also within the realm of possibility that Sasser said, “Put MY “n@#$a in” after Fields was replaced by Fromm on the next drive after leading the offense to a TD, implying he wanted his friend/teammate to get more playing time, not less. What he exactly said is up for debate as I have seen both reported.

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                • “Realm of possibility” isn’t fact. It’s speculation.

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                • Derek

                  Sounds to me like a reality, that if true, I’d have wanted widely publicized in my own defense. I would have also circulated communications, team pictures, box scores, etc, etc…

                  In short, in the absence of same, I’d say that cover story is a heaping pile of bullshit.

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              • If he KNEW he had to sit out a year more than likely he would have sit that year in Athens and played in 2020.

                He transferred before he received the waiver. And before you tell me it was already in the bag, remember that UGA’s first response was to contest it.

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  2. Mick Jagger

    In reality, Clemson/Dabo handled the Kelly Bryant thing correctly.

    If ya ain’t for us, ur against us.

    In other words, Fields shouldn’t have made the trip to NO.

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    • Both sides handled the Kelly Bryant thing well. Bryant didn’t want to waste his last year of eligibility taking mop-up snaps while watching his NFL dreams go kaput. When Dabo gave the starting job to Lawrence, he did it after 4 games which gave Bryant a chance to hold on to his last season of eligibility.

      In our case, Kirby tried like hell to convince Fields to stay, but once Justin decided he was out, Kirby should have told him, “Go find your new school while we go to New Orleans.”

      Sasser gave Fields an exit strategy.

      Regarding Gene Smith, I’m sure he would be just as accommodating if the shoe were on the other foot. //sarcasm

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  3. Salty Dawg

    Personally, when it comes to the Fields transfer, I think this dead horse has been beat enough.

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  4. Mick Jagger

    And why does the AJC keep posting these stupid trade articles?

    https://www.dawgnation.com/football/georgia-football-trades-2019

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  5. One time transfer makes sense. Pandora’s box is already open; you may as well have some basic structure of rules in place, to semi-control the choas that is coming.

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  6. Mad Mike

    Has there been a worse “professional” journalist that has covered the Dawgs than Connor Riley? If not, maybe there should be a GTP Connor Riley Award for Atrociousness In Journalism.

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  7. DawgPhan

    Really happy that UGA did the right thing for themselves and for Fields in this case.

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  8. PTC DAWG.

    I had high hopes for The Prince of Panic…but he wasn’t cut out for our offense, and it showed.

    Glad he moved on..

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  9. Derek

    It appears to me that a large part of the readership here is sympathetic to Calvin Candie’s investment woes:

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  10. 69Dawg

    Read earlier that once an athlete enters the Transfer Portal the school can pull his scholarship, if it wants. I see this as an 85 limit tool rather than a bug. I guess if you really wanted the player you could see what happened but it seems to me the coaches could “nip this in the bud” if they just said you are welcome to put your name in but you will be off the team. No coach wants a player especially a QB that is not happy, of such things team division is made. Big mistake letting Fields hang around, even if Kirby felt he needed him as a backup. The Sugar Bowl would have still been a blowout, either way.

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  11. Why don’t we stop fooling ourselves?
    The game is over,
    Over,
    Over.
    No good times, no bad times,
    There’s no times at all,
    Just The New York Times,
    Sitting on the windowsill
    Near the flowers.

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  12. Why don’t we stop fooling ourselves?
    The game is over,
    Over,
    Over.
    No good times, no bad times,
    There’s no times at all,
    Just The New York Times,
    Sitting on the windowsill
    Near the flowers.

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