Sense of entitlement

It’s kind of amazing to listen to guys making millions of dollars a year managing a football program whine about managing a football program.

… Last spring, the Buckeyes touted four quarterbacks recruited and developed in-house: Matthew Baldwin, Joe Burrow, Dwayne Haskins and Tate Martell. All have since left the program.

Haskins put in a one-and-done year as the starter, parlaying his breakout campaign into a first-round slot in the recent NFL draft. Burrow transferred to LSU last May, quickly becoming the Tigers’ starter. Martell left this offseason for Miami (Fla.) and entered the fray for the Hurricanes’ starting job. This month, Baldwin announced he would be transferring to TCU.

“You think he has three years left and he comes for one, throws 50 touchdown passes and is a first-round draft pick,” Day said of Haskins, “he left things uneasy and almost a mess. So we had to kind of figure all that out in short order.”

“(H)e left things uneasy and almost a mess.”  The selfish little bastard!  Why, I bet if the Ohio State coaches had known up front Haskins was going to leave after his third year, they would have… what, exactly?  Told Tate Martell to stick around?

“You never know, you feel really good about your quarterback position and then you look up one day and everybody’s gone,” said SMU coach Sonny Dykes. “It’s almost like you recruit a good quarterback every year and you expect somebody to leave every other year.”

Damn, it must suck to be a head coach these days.  I mean, having to do your job and all…

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22 responses to “Sense of entitlement

  1. Spike

    Well, now the coaches know how the players feel when the coach bails out on a team to go to the next job.

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  2. The Portal changes everything. Rules are much clearer and now it is out there for all to see. Programs do not have to dance around other programs to talk to players. Much cleaner. From a selfish stand point, with Georgia out recruiting almost everyone, the portal means we’ll have more talented players leaving verses the players the other players entering the portal. But then again, those other teams still have to recruit.

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  3. Macallanlover

    Poor choice of words by Day, but if you cannot see the disruption from a planning and development standpoint you are blinded by your “let there be total freedom” viewpoint. Genie is out of the bottle, some immediate decisions to get this under control are needed. It would be a bad situation in any organization, team/school, business, church, and is happening at a frightening pace. Giving young men free reign to act impulsively isn’t in their best interest either.

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    • What exactly are you frightened of, Mac? College football rankings look about the same as ever. I don’t expect attendance or TV viewership to experience an extraordinary change, either.

      If you want to characterize my position as “let there be total freedom”, let me call yours “it’s what’s on the front of the jersey that matters”. So why are player transfers scary?

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      • Why do you always jump with both feet on the coaches but not see how it effects the other approx 70 to 79 players on the team? Why are their interest not just as valid as the one guy that left?

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        • Give me some players making stupid comments and I’ll be happy to jump on those, too.

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          • I’m more concerned with the substance then the rhetoric.

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            • Okay, substance: aren’t the players on the transferee’s new team happy he’s there? Why are you ignoring their interests?

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              • I’m not ignoring it. I am simply weighing it among the other interest including the other players they committed with and to. As well as the fact that packing up and leaving simply because something didn’t go your way in year one is not generally good for character development.

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                • So, how upset should Tate Martell’s former teammates be with the coaching staff for telling Martell it was in his best interests to leave the program?

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                  • So if they don’t tell him and keep him around for insurance the coaches are using him for their benefit and if they do tell him they are using him for their benefit. Seems that whatever they do the coaches can’t be good guys.
                    As for the other players If I were truly in that situation I would want to know. So why would the team mates not want him to know? It doesn’t mean he has to leave. One has to wonder if they promised Fields the job and that is why Fields left? Therefore why they told Martell it was in his best interest to leave, because there was not going to be a true competition.

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                    • So if they don’t tell him and keep him around for insurance the coaches are using him for their benefit and if they do tell him they are using him for their benefit. Seems that whatever they do the coaches can’t be good guys.

                      That’s not what I’m saying. In this case, I think the Ohio State coaches did the right thing by being honest with Martell. But that has nothing to do with your point I was responding to, which is how we need to think of the effect in the locker room.

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      • Macallanlover

        I don’t think we have seen anything debilitating from the new portal phenomena….yet. I think the “fruit basket turnover” potential is a danger to the success of any organization. It all depends on how the process is curtailed from this point forward, we will see. I think the NCAA has a it thus far, and not confident they have the talent to do much better now that precedents have been set.

        Kirby has done a great job in building the depth at most every position, that marvelous accomplishment can be negated by a flood of players leaving before we ever get to see them develop. Will be a boom to schools who are currently have-nots, UGA will most likely be one of the schools who stand to lose the most.

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    • South FL Dawg

      I seriously doubt it’s impulsive. It might look like it to those of us not in the inner circle, but by the time they announce a transfer, they’ve been thinking about it for a while. College students talk to their families so I’m sure the family has gotten on board already.

      After Spring football the young man sits down with the coach and finds out where he is on the depth chart. He already gave it all he had and say he finds out he’s 3rd or 4th like Jaden Hunter. Here’s a kid that was born and bred UGA Bulldog. I bet he struggled with the decision like crazy before finally going into the portal.

      Also remember Ryan Day had no problem finding a replacement for Dwayne Haskins. Pre-portal he may have been starting a true freshman. Tate Martell was a disappointment this Spring in Miami, so maybe Ryan Day needs to ask himself why he wasn’t able to develop Martell or why he recruited him in the first place. That’s a little smug on my part because I know they don’t all develop, but that’s exactly why transfers should be allowed. Day is conveniently cherry picking the talking points.

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  4. JasonC

    In a sense, I understand the coaches’ frustration… you have 1 QB position to fill, maybe you can run 2 out successfully week to week, but it’s a pretty shitty attitude when a new guy comes in and thinks “I’m gonna be the man” and when he’s not, he leaves. Yes, coaches have s responsibility to be honest with recruits, but let’s be real, you’re trying to sign the best and the most guys you can. And it sucked losing two 5-star guys in a year.
    However, there definitely is some hypocrisy on the coaches part seeing how they’re paid and how quickly they’ll jump ship. I guess in this situation, the best thing to do is my imitation of a southern girl when she says “bless their hearts”, but really means “take that you bitch!”- especially since we’re talking about Ohio State.

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  5. Every coach is going to use that quote against Day in blue-chip QB living rooms.

    A more diplomatic approach may have been, “We appreciate what Dwayne did for our program last year and he appreciates how our coaches and team helped him become a 1st rounder after only a year as a starter. We’re looking forward to the competition at quarterback among those players who are here.”

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  6. FlyingPeakDawg

    “Kids are transferring all over the place!” “Let’s go get a transfer!”

    Job well done coach. Well done. Here’s a pay raise.

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  7. W Cobb Dawg

    So Day feels it’s okay to get a QB from the portal (Fields), but a QB leaving via the portal isn’t right (Martell). I’m gonna leave the nfl draft out of it, because players leaving early has been around for many decades now.

    But really, when will these HC’s learn to just STFU about the portal?

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  8. Debby Balcer

    These kids have four years to get their shot at proving they are ready for the NFL. That is a short window and once they see how the coach works and get a feel for whether or not they are going to be a back up too long, I can understand wanting to transfer to get a clean shot at earning the starting position. It is not like they getting paid to wait.

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  9. Doug

    Haskins left the QB situation a mess? Haskins did?

    So the coaches don’t have any responsibility to 1) prepare the potential QBs-in-waiting or 2) sense that a hugely talented player might jump to the NFL early and thus prepare a contingency plan? Maybe if Urban Meyer had spent a little more time doing those things and a little less time strategizing ways to weasel out of the Zach Smith situation, the Buckeyes’ QB position wouldn’t be a smoldering crater right now.

    But no, it’s always got to be the players’ fault. As if Haskins put the other three QBs under hypnosis and told them to transfer. These coaches are fucking morons.

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