But you already knew that.

Still, it’s a real kick to see it, no?

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33 responses to “But you already knew that.

  1. The other Doug

    Do UGA OL recruits get a bump because if Pittman wants them then they must be elite?

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    • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

      Thought exactly the same thing. Kind of like how Bama recruits could go from 4 to 5 stars after a commit.

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      • CB

        Could be. Obviously Bama’s recruiting led to on field success, but I wonder if any 5 star bump kids got processed out.

        They aren’t linemen, but after spring I actually feel better about Tyrique Stevenson and Divaad Wilson than I do about former 5 star Tyson Campbell.

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  2. UGA '97

    Not so sure the Richard Samuels, Ray Drews, and the like we’re really in the same category of 5 star as Kirby is now pulling….so that gap is realistically even much wider.

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    • siskey

      Samuel and Drew could have been better players. Samuel got “Tripp’d” up and should have been a linebacker from the beginning. Drew was injured a lot but did contribute his last year or so. Neither could live up to the hype of the rankings (Drew) or early performances (Samuel in the Arkansas game).

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      • Reverend Whitewall

        I agree that Samuel should have been at LB the whole time, but I don’t think he would have ever been a stud regardless. There was just something……..off(?) with him, I can’t describe it. Like he was meant to be more of a track guy than a football guy. Never seen a guy with his physique go down so easily on minimal contact – guys could get one hand on him from the side and he’d go flying like he got hit by a sidewinder missile. He could take contact head on, but any contact at all from one side or the other and he immediately went down. Maybe it was a balance or center of gravity thing, I don’t know. He just never looked “natural” on the football field to me, regardless of the position.

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    • Derek

      Don’t forget Mudcat! He was a 5 star.

      Brandon Miller #12 was a 5 star too but didn’t play like one.

      The CMR 5 stars that actually played like it I can think of are: Stafford and AJ.

      Can’t remember if Murray was a 5 star. I’m thinking he was a 4.

      Knowshon wasn’t a 5. Marshall was but Gurley wasn’t. Imagine that.

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      • Greg

        Chilli just called you creepy.

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        • Derek

          I’m not what chili described. No subscriptions whatsoever.

          I have kinda of an idea who our main targets are and I’ll watch a tape or two, but I’m not into the weeds with it.

          I know I want Arik and one or both of those backs from TX and CA.

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          • Greg

            Glad we are seeing some DL committing….LAWD knows we need them.

            They all look to have potential, we’ll see.

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            • Derek

              Would have liked to have gotten Bresee or Murphy…

              Of course if we’ve got all the 5 star OL does it matter?

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      • Biggus Rickus

        Brandon Miller is rated as fourth best signee Georgia’s had since they started ranking things as they do now. And yes, he defintely didn’t play like it. The top three, according to 247’s rankings anyway, are Justin Fields, who’s gone, Nolan Smith, who’s a freshman, and Trenton Thompson, who underachieved. Other Richt five stars who played like it (ratings based on 247): Paul Oliver, Reshad Jones (arguably), DJ Shockley, John Theus (arguably), Lorenzo Carter, Sony Michel, Aaron Murray, Alec Ogletree, Terry Godwin (arguably), Nick Chubb, Jordan Jenkins (arguably).

        I’m not suggesting that all of those guys were the best of the best in college, but they were all at least good.

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    • Lorenzo

      While better assessment for position placement is certainly an important factor, I’m more inclined to believe in the simple axiom of 4s/5s on 4s/5s bringing out the best in these kids, just old fashioned intense elite competition day in/day out during practice. You lose something when there is a significant talent gap between your #1s and #2s.

      I think it was during the 2017 season that one of the players was comparing the practices of previous years to the current culture and said something to the effect that games against the other team’s mostly 3s/4s and maybe a few 5s, had now become actually easier than practices, and I have no doubt that’s exactly what Kirby’s going for from what he learned at Bama. However, you can’t achieve that without initially recruiting on the highest level as we have been seeing out of he and his staff for a few years now.

      So, maybe if some of these previous 5s that have been mentioned on this thread had grown up in the new culture they would have better developed into realizing their potential. All I do know is that, as an old Dawg that has bled red and black over many a year including being a student at UGA during 1980, I am absolutely loving the dominating culture that CKS has brought to Athens.

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  3. dawgxian

    The Florida fans don’t seem to get that Georgia has changed. It’s not just that they have problems. Georgia coaches are much more focused on recruiting than during the prior eras and they have nearly $100M in assets that their predecessors did not have.

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  4. Lorenzo

    It would be interesting to see the same number comparisons of 4s and 3s. My impression is that the 4* difference might be rather small, but instead we’ve in effect traded 3s for 5s.

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  5. ChiliDawg

    The Kirby Bump

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    • Cojones

      He was so distinctly distant from the nearest competitors at his last camp that this upgrade was inevitable. That it happened before they got into the season is remarkable.

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  6. Greg

    BAH!!….means nothing until they sign and are in school, right??

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  7. Well we sure went from “not interested in the decisions of a 16 year old high school student” to “another 5 star? How many is that now?” 😉 Good times indeed.

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    • ChiliDawg

      I still don’t care, tbh. There’s plenty of people to convey how good our recruiting class is compared to everyone else’s – I still think the people who follow recruiting closely are creepy.

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      • Argondawg

        I only follow our recruiting. I think being a college football fan and not following recruiting is creepy. That is like being a pro fan and having zero interest in who your team drafts or signs as a free agents. It actually matters. Plus it is interesting during the dawg days in between seasons.

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        • ChiliDawg

          When I say “follow recruiting closely,” I’m talking about people who read daily recruiting updates and tweets from high schoolers and discuss their visits and their comments to reporters, etc etc etc. I’m not talking about the guys who read up on recruiting rankings and the number of five stars we get. I’m talking about guys who follow recruits’ twitter accounts and actually care about the drama. IF that’s you – yeah that’s creepy.

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  8. Russ

    I’m a Richt fan, but THIS is the main difference between Kirby and Richt. Kirby is relentless and it will pay off, sooner rather than later.

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