“When it comes to analyzing Florida’s class ranking and potential, a lot of nuance is involved.”

Nuance ($$):

… It wasn’t as if Florida was attracting a large amount of blue-chip talent before Mullen’s arrival. In Jim McElwain’s classes, blue-chip prospects (four and five stars) made up 34.3 percent of Florida’s signees. That number is at 58.5 percent under Mullen, counting attrition and the 2020 class so far. The problem is an alarming one: Georgia is at 87.3 percent in the same time frame.  [Emphasis added.]

Yeah, that’s a problem.

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36 responses to ““When it comes to analyzing Florida’s class ranking and potential, a lot of nuance is involved.”

  1. W Cobb Dawg

    “That number is at 58.5 percent under Mullen, counting attrition and the 2020 class so far.”

    So the 58.5% ‘includes’ attrition, not ‘minus’ attrition – which would further errode that percentage.

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    • Cojones

      Not sure how you are wordsmithing this, but I read it as attrition was included and, therefore, the 58.5% is what they have at this moment. Like you, I find that higher than my po’ mind has calculated.

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  2. GP

    Not to mention the current 5 star count on each roster, which is 22-0 in favor of UGA.

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    • artful codger

      And on the flip side, the Gators have more than twice our 3star count since 2016. Something like 45-20 by my count using 247 info. Not counting for attrition.

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  3. ClydeBoogie

    “The problem is”and it alarming at all. Kirby aka Debo gonna kick Coach Mulan’s butt up and down the street all day long.

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  4. spur21

    I heard Dan created the rivalry of Dawgs vs Gators.

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  5. Go Dawgs!

    Inject this directly into my veins.

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  6. siskey

    The writer falls back on players being “publicly rated” higher than they are rated by Florida’s coaches, which I am sure happens a lot and Mullen does have a history of developing players. The problem is that at Florida 8 or 9 wins will not be seen as a great season and I don’t think you have the time to develop a 3-star player into a dependable starter in year 4 or 5. The situation is very reminiscent of what happened in Athens when Meyer was bringing in the top players at Florida. Georgia brought in guys that were developed into serviceable players but did not have a Harvin, Pouncey Brothers, or Hernandez (not the best examples re “Good people” but all excellent college players). And for all that Mullen did there last year remember that winning 10 games is not a long lasting balm if you are getting hammered by your rivals consistently.

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    • The problem is that at Florida 8 or 9 wins will not be seen as a great season and I don’t think you have the time to develop a 3-star player into a dependable starter in year 4 or 5.

      That’s a good point. Mullen’s strategy worked at MSU, but how well does it translate at UF? And if it doesn’t, how will he adjust?

      I think we’re already seeing a sign of that with regard to his current recruiting. His staff probably is good at evaluation, but we’re already seeing evidence that they’re not particularly good closers, compared with the elites, when it comes to blue chip talent.

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      • Puffdawg

        I think it’s worth noting (and I think you already know this or are alluding to it) that his STRATEGY is not NOT signing elite players for the sake of developing 3 stars. He just can’t sign them and yet happens to have done a good job at developing lower rated players. If by “will he adjust” you mean “will he start signing elite players”, obviously we know its not that he isn’t already trying. Interesting dynamic though.

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        • Otto

          At MSU you expect to be out recruited by Bama, LSU and Auburn. A coach that can win 9 a year and set records for bowl wins is rewarded.

          However, if the same coach goes to UF you would expect him to sign better talent and have the $$$ to hire and keep a good DC. Mullen is not doing that, He has no excuses at UF, he is surrounded by talent with Miami and FSU being down.

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          • Mayor

            Miami and FSU won’t be down long. Miami has a new HC and we’ll see how he works out but they’ll make a good hire if he doesn’t. FSU will fire Taggart and hire a top HC after another season or two. Those programs will be back and if Mullen keeps recruiting like he has been they will both pass FU in recruiting and on the field. I don’t see great things happening in Gainesville. What I don’t get is all the national media love for the Gay-turds.

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            • spur21

              They were 10 – 3 last year but not all 10 – 3 records are equal. They beat LSU most likely because LSU overlooked them. They beat a depleted Mich. in the same way Texas beat us. They beat up on sisters of the blind and squeaked by more than once when playing middle of the road teams. They suck and will suck next year. Reality will smack them back into the real world.

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              • Cojones

                Good points, all. Exactly why my mind won’t wrap around the rankings and ink that has been given to FU since the end of last season.

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  7. Club7

    We have a saying, “no more bubbles!”. Keep those bitches under until they die.

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  8. JasonC has

    We have a saying, “no more bubbles!”. Keep those bitches under until they die.

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  9. practicaldawg

    From the article:

    “A considerable amount of scrolling on any recruiting service is required before arriving at the name of Florida’s latest commitment for its 2020 class. Gerald Mincey, a Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale) lineman, committed to Florida on Sunday. He is the No. 965 overall player, No. 83 offensive tackle and No. 131 prospect in the state of Florida, according to the 247Sports Composite rankings. Mincey, however, ranks toward the top of the Gators’ board of preferred offensive line targets, multiple program sources said, which means there is no chance Florida’s staff believes there are that many better high school linemen than him.”

    And they wonder why they can’t get a good QB to commit. The disrepair of their OL will ultimately be the final curtain on the Sideshow.

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    • Will Adams

      The delusional FU fans believe that their OL coach, Hevesy, doesn’t need elite OL recruits to be able to put together a good offensive line. And that might be true to a certain extent. But they better pray for the injury bug to not bite them every year or they’ll be in serious trouble. And think what Hevesy could do with elite talent? It blows my mind how a lot of them are ok with the deficiencies their coaches have in recruiting because they believe that they’ll just be able to coach them up.

      Of course, I’m fine with it. Let FU go searching for the diamonds in the rough while the Dawgs are raking in the big ass, polished diamonds that show returns immediately. It sure will be fun to watch the beat down in Jax every year.

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  10. PTC DAWG

    To hell with FU

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  11. Russ

    That’s not a problem to me. At all.

    #ftmf

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  12. Smoky Joe Would

    And remember that 58.5% blue chip ratio includes the 2020 class, none of which are going to be on campus this season.

    The beatings will continue whether morale improves or not.

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  13. Gurkha Dawg

    I wonder what the blue chip ratio is for the 2019 season. 58.5% is nothing to sneeze at. I think our ratio was a little over 50% in 2012 when we almost won the NC. Not sure but if Clemson’s ratio is over 58%, it just passed it in the last year or two. Just saying 58% is plenty of talent to wn a NC.

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    • A year ago, Clemson was at 61%, per Bud Elliott.

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      • Gurkha Dawg

        Right, I said they may have passed 58% in the last year or two. The difference in 61% and 58% is 2 1/2 players who are 4 or 5 stars rather than 3. I guess my point is that a 58.5% blue chip ratio is pretty good. It only sucks when you compare it to our ratio. We have reached a whole new level and are way better than “pretty good”.

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      • NCDawg

        let’s be honest, the roster is the roster but the main position in the game is still QB. Clemson has the future #1 overall draft pick (whatever year he comes out) at current. The 60 or so % didn’t mean much in a semi-final game with Kelly Bryant. They won big with an NFL QB in D Watson and will continue to do so with Lawrence.

        I am not sold on UF’s qb situation.

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    • Doc Dawg

      Biggest difference is Clemson had elite QBs along with seniors on the DL so not all 60% are the same.

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  14. I don’t know what you’re talking about, my understanding is that the gap is closing…###

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  15. Cousin Eddie

    I have no idea how to locate this information but what was his record at MSU vs teams with higher recruiting levels than he had?
    I would expect the overall record to remain roughly the same. If he was .500 vs better Joes then uf can expect the same.

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  16. Swampdawg

    Does anybody have or know where I could find UGA’s blue chip ratio while under Richt?

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    • Gurkha Dawg

      247 sports College football team rankings gives you each team’s class breakdown per year. So you can add up the blue chips and divide it by class size for each year. Do the same for a 4 year period you are interested in. Of course, that doesn’t account for attrition, leaving early, etc.

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