Human nature being what it is…

Serious question for debate here, although first I have to say that I find this hypothetical a bit of a stretch, simply because I think the NCAA will be forced to come up with something more favorable to student-athletes on the NLI front that the politicians will accept, but read this:

Isn’t it at least as likely that the California law gives state schools a recruiting advantage over every other jurisdiction in that they can offer student-athletes the opportunity to receive payments for things banned in the other 49 states?  I mean, money being money and all that, why wouldn’t that be a plus?

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18 responses to “Human nature being what it is…

  1. Dawg in Austin

    Agreed, but I don’t discount the fact that they will be rigorously recruited against the uncertainty of the success of CA’s actions. What will be interesting to me is if other Pac-12 state legislators mirror CA’s proposal. It’s not as if that state doesn’t have similarly minded friends within neighboring states. Will AZ and UT be dragged along though?

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    • ChiliDawg

      Oh I’d love to hear that pitch.

      “Son, you don’t want to go to UCLA. They’ve got perfect weather, beaches, beautiful women, movie stars AND on top of that they might PAY you! A lot of uncertainty on that last point, you don’t want to mess with that.”

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      • Dawg in Austin

        Underestimate the magnificence of the CA legislature, the NCAA and the courts at your own peril.

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  2. 79Dawg

    What makes you think that California changing its laws will make the NCAA bend? The NCAA could just as easily tell the California schools that if they comply with the new California law and violate association rules, they will be kicked out of the NCAA.
    Sure, having 49 states part of the NCAA and 1 not would be new and awkward, but to not consider it as a possible outcome seems rather short-sighted…

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    • ChiliDawg

      The NCAA could just as easily tell the California schools that if they comply with the new California law and violate association rules, they will be kicked out of the NCAA *

      They’ve already told them that, since you haven’t been paying attention. Here’s the thing though – California doesn’t give a shit. Because for one, there would be a legal challenge against the NCAA who has been on the wrong end of the legal challenges lately, and for another, other states will follow suit and suddenly the NCAA will be queen of the ashes.

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      • 79Dawg

        I have no doubt California DGAS; I am less convinced, however, that other states feel the same way. As with most things, this is something that legislators (even on both sides of the aisle!) love to demagogue about, but when it comes down to it, I just don’t see them pulling the trigger for a variety of reasons, particularly when there’s no great groundswell among their constituents to blow up the status quo. Sure, this is an important issues to sportswriters and sports bloggers, and kids playing D1 football and basketball, but outside of that, there’s not much constituency for huge change, IMO. On the other hand, there are huge businesses with lots of vested interests and millions (billions?) at stake by maintaining the status quo, and tons of people (as evidenced almost everytime the issue pops on this site) who are used to the “amateur” system…

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    • Unless the NCAA bends, this will wind up in court. And the NCAA will lose another antitrust case.

      Besides that, California isn’t acting in a vacuum here. Don’t forget there are other states and Congress moving on a similar front.

      The only way the status quo holds is if the NCAA gets its desired antitrust exemption.

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      • Cojones

        Any conference not represented by California teams? The power represented by that state concerning CFB is enormous and can easily scramble feelings plus perceptions by fans towards the NCAA. Like a Black Hole of the West, they could draw the energy and the light away from the NCAA by sucking all players and then conferences in for change, public or private.

        I think that Ca has both hands on one of the NCAA’s balls. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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  3. ChiliDawg

    Seems like the Long Beach AD is doing the “whistling past the graveyard” thing.

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  4. Macallanlover

    Certainly not the only example of Cali legislators not thinking laws/rules apply to them. Perhaps they should just secede, where do I donate?

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    • Speaking of not thinking laws/rules apply to them, the NCAA violates the Sherman Act, Mac. Again, if this goes to court, it won’t be California that loses.

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    • ChiliDawg

      Uh, you realize that CA legislators are the ones who make laws, not the NCAA, right?

      It’s really funny how you “muh state’s rights” people turn on a dime when it’s convenient for you.

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      • Macallanlover

        What part of “rules” baffles you? And state’s rights comes with an agreement to follow Federal laws in areas where the Feds have domain such as border policies and cooperating with Federal authorities to protect other states by apprehending criminals who violate this country’s laws.
        Just for fun, perhaps they should have people go on red lights and stop on green, or drive on the right side of the road….if the drivers want to on some days. Certain “rights” were ceded to the UNITED States of America when they joined the Union. Part of living in a civilized society requires cooperation, which apparently escapes you also. Your “only if you agree with it” philosophy is pretty stupid, as are so many other things you weigh in on.

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  5. Might require an sec satellite school in the pac 12…just to keep things square

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  6. WNCDawg

    Senator, not being a educated by law individual like yourself could you explain if and how the Sherman Act works into today’s time. My thoughts if you delve deep in to corporations now that within our states there is pretty much a group of 13 umbrella corporations that just about every thing we buy from groceries, alcohol, building supplies, cigarettes and you name it is part of one of these umbrellas.
    Simply put if you own a small grocery and you sell tobacco, soft drinks or any other small items at your local drive through. Say Coke or gas it’s your store but when you enter a agreement contract to sell any of the aforementioned if you choose to sell that a product for a lesser price than say the Brand Name cigarette or Beer says the set price of the item for. The company then come in and absolve you from selling their product in your store.
    From a outsider ignorant asI may be about this subject matter but even the Braves are owned by a multimedia corporation. So if 20 of the corporate business are not making a profit but I have another 130 under this umbrella I can show my tax losses against all the billions the other 130 corporation make.
    Under the corporate umbrella for example Nabisco is just one corporate group that within it lies another 75-100 product brands or trade marks. Is this not consider a method of price fixing under the guise much like and again somewhat the NCCA now does.
    I am not a fan of anything West Coast nor North East, which if I remember Lewis Grizzard saying came up frozen fried chicken, instant grits and probably working on frozen collard greens.
    Not only of the NCCA but is that now technically the Butts/ McGill society works today. Even Augusta National if your found underselling face value tickets ( actually not happening because of demand ) your tickets will be taken away.
    Please enlighten me as your thoughts and feel free to just address my e-mail as much of this is off topic to the rest of May I say your esteemed work. Thank You Sir for your diligence and time and patience even with the often rude rebuttals I force my self through reading on the Only source trust worthy of Dawg news.

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  7. Morris Day

    If Saban ever told the Bama legislature he wanted this law passed in Alabama… how quickly you think it’d sail through?

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  8. Sean

    How would the NCAA enforce excluding California teams from participating in the CFP? The NCAA does not run the CFP.

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