When they tell you it’s not about the CFP…

It’s about the CFP.

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UPDATE:  Also, Danny Kanell is bored.

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31 responses to “When they tell you it’s not about the CFP…

  1. Russ

    Ahh, yes. Expanding the playoff always makes the regular season mean more. Can’t wait for when we go to 12 with 4 “wild cards”. That really cranks up the “meaning” meter.

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  2. stoopnagle

    Gracious, Kannell is a stupid person.

    Look, the B1G chose a 9 game schedule because it needed programming. Not because of some “we want to only compete against our peers” bull hockey they’re selling. I mean, they added Maryland and Rutgers for markets, certainly not because they are storied and competitive football entities. Jimmy can take his opinions elsewhere.

    THAT SAID: the momentum is building for the SEC to do something because of the ~$100 million difference in television revenues between it and the B1G. I don’t know the contracts, but would moving to a nine game schedule trigger an opportunity to re-negotiate?

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    • Otto

      Kannell is an idiot a playoff devalued the regular season, sooo…. the solution is to double down on the playoff??? Brilliant

      The beauty of college football was a loss at any point changed the palyoff picture and the landscape could completely change especially on rivalry week.

      UGA’s loss to Auburn didn’t change anything of value for UGA. OU can drop the RRS. Clemson can drop a game to Pitt and still make it in. anOSU can can get beat by a mediocre VaTech and win a national title.

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  3. Uglydawg

    If CJF wants to coach a team in the CFP, his best path is to hope the UF gig is available in the next few years. That would give him a punchers chance.

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  4. Classic City Canine

    You know, I actually have no problem cutting out a cupcake game every year. However, I oppose playoff expansion with every fiber of my being.

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  5. Admiral Sackbar

    Ditch the playoffs.

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  6. 3rdandGrantham

    Wait – so the solution to eliminating a snore fest of a regular season is to expand the playoff teams further, thus making the regular season even less meaningful? Got it. I can see it now – ‘welcome to our quarterfinal matchup between the 8-4 VT Hokies vs the 9-3 Washington Huskies!’

    Seriously, his rationale is akin to your wife saying she’s like you to lose a few pounds, thus she’d like for you to go on a strict diet of Popeyes and BBQ. Oh, and absolutely no exercise other than walking to the mailbox to check the mail.

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  7. Ricky McDurden

    At least Colin Cowherd knows what he says is stupid and is meant to get a rise out of the lowest common denominator of is listeners
    I think Danny Kannell actually believes the asinine, half-assed hot takes he haphazardly throws out.

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  8. Kanell is an idiot … that may be an insult to idiots.

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  9. CPark58

    I say it every time but if they really are going to dig the hole deeper by expanding this shitshow of a playoff system, just go to 6 teams and make the conference championships prerequisite for a shot at the playoffs and national championship. P5 + top non P5. Every conference has a championship game. Top 2 get a bye. Rankings matter for seeding, naming a darkhorse, and other bowl selection.

    Sure, it will let shittier teams in the playoffs but they’ll get weeded out or go on Cinderella runs. At least it will be objective and it keeps the regular season important and regionalized, which is the secret sauce of college football.

    Right now college football is the only sport aside from gymnastic or pool sports that is decided by a panel of judges. All this committee BS is just a grand design by Mickey to provide content with rankings, projections, and selection shows.

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    • Uglydawg

      If you went to six and gave the one and two teams a first round bye (which is what you would have to do to make it work) then you would hear the loudest bitching in the history of the world coming from the B1G and whatever other conference had to face a well rested and prepared SEC or Clemson team. It won’t work. And, although it wouldn’t bother me as long as it wasn’t Georgia getting that shaft, it wouldn’t be right or fair.

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      • CPark58

        You’re always going to hear bitching about football no matter what is decided, usually loudest from B1G. Playing a rested juggernaut is exactly what happens when Alabama doesn’t win the west and gets to watch the SEC championship from the couch and still gets in the BCS National Championship (2012) or 4 team playoff (2017) or when Clemson plays in the ACC championship game against. At least this way puts a stop to that BS, gives everyone a seat at the table, and finally delivers a truly objective pathway to national titles. Just win.

        As far as fan invented hypothetical championship formats that will never happen go, I find it the fairest and the one that I subscribe to.

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        • CPark58

          when Clemson plays in the ACC championship game against any ACC Coastal team.

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        • Patrick

          Agree with this. I don’t want any playoff, but this is best option if we must have one.

          It would further kill the other bowls and all non-conf rivalry games. But at least it saves importance of all regular season conference games.

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  10. Doug

    Something tells me that if the two teams wielding “dominance” in the CFP were Clemson and a non-SEC team, Kanell would be perfectly fine with it.

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  11. chopdawg

    “Cut schedule to 11 games Eliminate FCS cupcakes
    P5 must play 10 P5

    Expand playoffs to 8 teams.”

    All sounds good to me.

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  12. Admiral Sackbar

    Kanell sees a legitimate issue of parity within CFB, thinks the solution is more playoff games, but that doesn’t address the cause of his concerns, which is the uneven distribution of talent within the sport. I don’t think the CFP has exacerbated that issue of parity so much as it has exposed it even further. Expanding the playoffs to 8 teams is just piling on more cannon fodder. I actually think the little guys in college football had better chances of getting titles in the old system.

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    • The most direct way to increase parity would be to reduce the number of players on scholarship.

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      • I would be interested to see if someone has studied your suggestion about reducing the number of scholarships. It would distribute players down, but the same group of schools will get the best players. At some point, the season becomes a war of attrition as injuries mount on a team with fewer scholarships available. The only way to get parity is to do something like the NFL draft to allocate talent. That’s the only way the have-nots have a chance to become a championship-caliber team. That’s never going to happen.

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        • Uglydawg

          I think scholarship numbers have been higher in the past. It wouldn’t be the first reduction. The last time they did it (reduced the #) it did have an effect and some parity was achieved. We saw and I think we see, more upsets than we did before reductions.

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  13. CB

    Never thought I’d agree with Kanell, but this time I do. I’d prefer 6 with two byes and no automatic bids for conference champs, but I’d take 8 if I had to.

    I know I know. Doomsday expansion to 16 and beyond.

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    • Macallanlover

      Don’t be concerned about being associated with Kanell, he fits the old “broken clock rule” and is likely on the correct side for the wrong reason. I look at it that even Kanell can see how the regular season, indeed all of CFB, will be lifted by getting the playoffs at the proper level. For the first time, there is a path, not blocked by the short-sighted decisions of those who don’t see why minimizing subjectivity and allowing access to those previously shut out by an abbreviated, pretend champion is long, long over due. 6% isn’t an abuse of entry, it is exclusive, while inclusive. Eight teams from a field this size will still make it the most limited of playoffs in sports. There simply isn’t a way to determine who should play with so little interaction across conferences and geographies.

      I really think the biggest obstacle to getting this right is the romantics thinking a national championship is about identifying “the best”. That is Mission Impossible, and will always be a debate. Get a champion that wins the playoff, as we do in every other sport, but get that champion from a group where an artificial barrier exists from giving every team a chance to reach the Elite Eight. And make the conference championships mean something, block out those who propose getting rid of them. Immediately watch the regular season get lifted by the increased interest nationally, because the games will mean something to everyone, and because those complaining at the end will be reduced to only the absurd, and pretenders will be eliminated by forcing the champion to need three wins to hoist the trophy.

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      • CB

        It seems we are in far different corners of the same side of this debate. I don’t foresee any scenario that could make conference championships anything more than money grabs. An arbitrary extra game between Clemson and (fill in the black) or in previous years Bama vs (take your pick) proves nothing imo. For every Bama Georgia 2018 matchup that means something you’ve got 5 other total wastes of time with one or both participants having no business in a playoff discussion.

        Scrap the championship games, go to a 9 game conf schedule, add another bye week, eliminate FCS games, and bring back the BCS to rank the top 6 playoff participants. Top two get a bye.

        If you want to get radically fair, open the door for teams like UCF to play their way into the FBS and allow for Kansas to get relegated to FCS. The only people on the outside of that scenario are typically going to be pretenders.

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        • Macallanlover

          With a guaranteed spot to the Power 5 conference champs, the championship games become the only guaranteed spot, the other 3 will be subjective. No byes for me. Spot for the highest rated Group of 5/independent team, if they are rated in the Top ? I say 12 would be about right. Other two for 2 wildcard teams. Nothing about this precludes a 9th conference game, I 100% support that, ASAP.

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          • CB

            Automatic bids for conference champions opens the door for a 3-4 loss team from a weak division scoring an upset in a game that they really don’t deserve to be in and making the playoff. This would essentially void the entire season for that conference. Imo 60 minutes of play shouldn’t be trump 8-9 conference games for 14 teams. It probably wouldn’t happen often, but why risk it?

            The alternative is to play a round robin season followed by putting the top two teams in a championship which is silly because what is the point in playing the game when you’ve already established a #1 and #2?

            Georgia vs Bama from last season is the exception. If we could guarantee that kind of matchup every year across all conferences I’d be with you 100%, but it just doesn’t happen.

            As pro playoff as I am I have to admit that the Senator is correct when he says that the bigger the playoff the less the regular season matters. That being the case, I like 6 with two byes and BCS style computer rankings because I can’t think of a single instance in which I genuinely felt that the 7th place team got screwed out of a title shot. Plus, byes gives extra incentive for teams who have locked up a playoff bid prior to their rivalry game at the end of the year to continue to compete at a high level. (I’d also be open to moving rivalry games to earlier in the season.

            Back to the automatic bids for conference champions. I doubt there would be many if any situations that a P5 champion wouldn’t be ranked in the top 6. But in the event that they wouldn’t be, it would likely be for a good cause which is the main reason I’m against the guarantee. I would obviously still use a conference title in bid consideration, but if the Big 10 or SEC has 3-4 if the best teams in the country I don’t see a good reason to leave them out of the field.

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  14. The FCS needs it own champions and playoffs. They have good players too. How else we going to find University of Buffalo Stars. And the Jack Rabbits players. Ha I dont event know the team. MWe cant see them all on TV. Thats a problem too TV; Norte Dame need to get in a conference not that week league their in. Its a shame how Florida State has fallen off the map. TV need to boost all not just cater to Division 1 teams. Who staying up to west coast games on the east coast. Who is there to watch?

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    • The FCS needs it own champions and playoffs.

      If this is sarcasm, it’s pretty good. If it’s not, perhaps you should Google FCS and discover what the “C” stands for.

      BTW, Buffalo is a member of the MAC, so it’s D-1.

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