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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
Get The Picture 
I’m not sure which will be the bigger $#!+ show … the Mueller hearings or the Playpen comment thread. I’m going to stay away from them both. 😉
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I can’t look away. It’s like a train derailing….
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Lol
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Let me sum it up for you. Everybody on both sides of the aisle are assholes. Mueller seemed drunk or senile. Trump still a dickhead. This should cover pretty much the whole thing. I can’t believe we elected all of these dickheads. Truly the government we derserve.
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Well, just ask Bernie about how fair the system is. Democrat voters wanted him in 2016 and the elites gave them Hillary instead.
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was fiction.
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Democratic primary votes, 2016: Clinton 16,914,722; Sanders 13,206,428.
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https://www.newsweek.com/clinton-robbed-sanders-dnc-brazile-699421
Maybe we should scrap the current political system so that blind adherence to nationwide popular vote totals is more legitimate.
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Or, in the alternative, you could learn how to do math.
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Well versed, thanks. How many regular delegates is a super delegate again? And what does the popular vote have to do with it? Just curious how your formulas work. Well know neo-con Donna Brazille seemed to think there were some shenanigans at play. She probably can’t do math either, amirite?
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Except, you know, for all those pesky actual votes cast.
I know nothing about Brazile’s math skills, but, in her defense, she managed a losing Presidential campaign that had no business losing.
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Dude, if you want to pretend that the Democratic primary was fair for all candidates, go ahead. But I’ve got no interest in participating in your delusion. Hillary bought the nomination before primary season.
I’m sorry she lost. You have my sympathies.
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I’m not taking issue with anything but your “Democratic voters preferred”. You have no clue, other than Donna Brazile, it seems.
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Here’s Omar talking about deporting an opponent. Guess she’s a racist https://twitter.com/ilhanmn/status/254078504898011136?s=21
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Ever heard of sarcasm?
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Lets assume (wrongly) for the sake of argument that you aren’t a bunch of troglodyte racists and what concerns you is loyalty to the USA:
First why doesn’t: “Russia if you’re listening, find and release Hillary’s emails, you’ll be richly rewarded” bother you? If Biden said: “hey Iran, help me win the election and you’ll be rewarded” would that be difficult to call treason?
Second, why don’t you go out and find each and every confederate symbol and tell the owner to get their traitorous ass out of the fucking country? Then tell the legislators and governors of every southern state that honors and celebrates confederate treason to get the fuck out too.
The difference between Lee and Davis and Osama? Several hundred thousand dead Americans. But you’re the patriots right?
Fuck you all very much.
You’ve defended treason for 160 years, what’s another day right? Enjoy.
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Haters gonna hate
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Excuse me, Sir. This is a Wendy’s.
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It’s an Arby’s
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Only if you want diarrhea.
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Wasn’t the whole point of secession to “get the hell out”?
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And among those who are still honoring that “point” I invite them to do likewise. Fuck off!!
Or,in the alternative and at a minimum, judge other Americans under the same standards you apply to you’re own, without consideration of color or religious beliefs. Is that so fucking hard?
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But, if they tried to leave and the Army was sent in to stop them…
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No one stopped any boats with refugees heading to other shores.
Many confederates did relocate. The issues was not emigration, dumb fuck.
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Derek’s the best ‘Murican. Confident in his ignorance. Intolerant of facts. Cursing at logic. Raging against humor.
He’s both stunning and brave. An inspiration to other middle schoolers.
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Smartest boy in the room.
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Not really. They were trying to stay and take the land.
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Someone is having a bad morning. I hope it gets better. I’m guessing you have graduated from college in the last 10-15 years by the tone of your comments. Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson et al were great patriots, all.
They certainly were racists by the current definition as were about 95% of all Americans on whichever side they were on in The War between the States from the standpoint that almost everyone at the time thought white Europeans were superior to black Africans. Thankfully, that view has changed for almost everyone now.
Yes, from a macro view the war was fought over slavery since, without that one wedge issue, the war wouldn’t have happened. That said, the combatants who fought for the Confederacy from the generals to the privates were not fighting for slavery. We know why they fought because back then, people knew how to write and they did write copiously. Please go read, not the drivel coming out of university professors in the last 25-30 years but the things written in the late 1800’s by the people who fought the war.
When I was a younger man and Dixie was played at the high school football games and people stood and some even shed a tear, were they nostalgic for slavery? No, of course not. The confederate symbols had nothing to do with racism and everything about regional pride for a part of the country that had been soundly humiliated but still held it’s head high.
Concerning the topic of the day, Trump is certainly a pompous windbag but the whole Mueller investigation was a partisan joke. There was not and is not any evidence that Trump tried to work with the Russians to get elected so he could then help the Russians in return. Trump is the same guy he has always been, arrogant, bombastic, a risk-taking “swing-for-the-fences” guy who sometimes strikes out completely. His personality, character and political views haven’t changed except for social issues that he only cares about to get political support from the right.
My using the word friend was not sarcastic, unlike the Trump quote you mentioned about getting the Russians to look at Hillary’s emails. I genuinely enjoy talking with people who have different views as long as it is an exchange of ideas and not emotions. Have a good day.
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Tl;dr.
The point isn’t anything but hypocrisy. Pure and simple.
I’m happy for you to justify the rebellion. I’m happy for you to approve of the fact that Alabama had 3 state holidays dedicated to the confederacy and it’s “heroes” in 2019. I’m happy for you say that Forrest should be honored in Tennessee in 2019. Fine with me. You’re entitled to your opinion.
What I object to are people on the one hand celebrating the most treasonous and consequential actions in this nations history deciding who can and can’t stay.
For if the standard is loyalty to the USA you fuckers should be on the first boat out. Or hold yourself to the same American standards that we can all have a voice in the country without our patriotism being challenged over disagreements and stfu about who is and who isn’t a loyal American.
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Just curious, but would your encouragement to leave include an open invitation to return, like Trump’s tweet? Or is your outrage too much for such trivial details?
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Let’s be clear. It was the War of Northern Aggression. What is this War between the States you speak of?
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Most technically correct would the the War for Southern Independence.
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The “anti-American and anti-democratic war in defense of human chattel” is the most appropriate title.
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When we don’t like history, we just change it. Long live the myth of the righteous cause.
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Now me bothers to read the Articles these days. You are spot on.
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No one. Damn spell check
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Lee, Jackson, et al took up arms against their country and killed American soldiers. That makes them traitors, not patriots. Period.
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Right. Just like Washington, Jefferson, and Adams were traitors. They took up arms against their king and killed British soldiers. Why the hell do we celebrate those assholes?
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They took up arms for their States, which signed on to the Constitution VOLUNTARILY.
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Without a doubt one of the stupidest comments ever written. Your mind and your soul are sick.
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Nah. I’m good.
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Am I one of the only ones that doesn’t care? I’ll read the lowlights this evening.
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You got a friend in me.
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Thank you sir!
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I can’t wait till they start besmirching Mueller.
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Hey illini84, I want to take this opportunity to wish you well on your upcoming retirement. You’re so short you have to look up to see a snake belly!
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Thanks. I’m hoping the ND night game doesn’t wipe me out for my rig fishing trip the following Tuesday. I’m retiring 50 years to the day that I DEROS’d!
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What a great start to retirement. I’m envious. Tight lines and stay safe!
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He’s obviously a Russian spy. Why else leave all the treason out of his report?
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QANON Lives!!!
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Someone please take his Twitter away!!
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There’s no way Trump’s gonna take that without tweeting back.
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I just cant even comment. Cringworthy is all I can say about his tweets.
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The only way today could get better is if we had a “live cam” inside the White House watching him rage.
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But Trimp said he would not be watching. What, you don’t believe the President of the USA?
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Guilty until proven innocent. Every middle schooler knows that!
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I’ve not been exonerated, either.
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Can’t wait for Derek and chili to spend the whole day showing their asses…
Looks like Derek is already hard at work.
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Gotta give Derek his due: consistency.
He’s a dick when he starts. Stays a dick all day, and ends a limp dick.
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Excellent unlettered description!
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Ladies and Gentlemen. I rest my case. He’ll be back next week. So try the veal.
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You forgot the picture!
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I was gonna say, half the team has already gotten off to a good start. Chili will be along soon but I’m guessing that right now he “can’t even”.
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Antifa….and his side-kick, Antifuk
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Beat me to it. I think Derek gets pre workout fuel, oils up, and lives for it.
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Give Derek and Chili all the shit you want, but include Bonerfart in there, too. He’s the one that trolls the most.
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You just can’t handle how stunning and brave we are. You’re obviously either a white nationalist or a Russian stooge!
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If you call bitch slapping commies trolling, then yeah, sure.
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Napoleon pantses those two clowns with ease and it is a joy to watch. He only seems like a troll if you enjoy Dorothy and Blanche’s little tirades.
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The fact that you traitors allow that asshat to be your intellectual knight tells us all we need to know about your fecklessness and worthlessness.
Short farty dick should be in a puzzle factory somewhere.
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It was a hoax. Full stop.
Why is that so hard for people to understand?
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People believe the Earth is flat. People believe in 74 genders. People believe the government is run by lizard people from space.
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Well, the last part is true
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No – the reptilians are running the world from the good old flat Earth. The grey’s are assisting them from space. The white extraterrestrials walk among us for surveillance.
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It’s hard to understand because Trump said it. But keep believing your Supreme Leader.
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Wow, Republicans aren’t even bothering to argue that Trump is innocent.
Really hope D’s drill down on Trump’s Campaign Chairman (Manafort) continually and secretly feeding internal polling data and campaign strategy to one of Putin’s closest oligarch via a known Russian Intelligence Officer, and never being able to establish why or whether Trump knew because Trump successfully dangled pardons to him to keep him from flipping to this day. How many Americans are aware of this? Maybe 5%?
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It’s uninteresting because it’s just the latest smoking gun in a long line of smoking guns that are definitely, for sure, this time we mean it, proving the Russia collusion narrative.
But it reads like something out of the Da Vinci Code. IF Trump knew that Manafort gave private polling data to Ukrainians, and IF the Ukrainians passed the data to the Russians who then passed it to a private company that used the data to illegally direct campaign spending, etc., etc., then Trump COULD be guilty of a civil infraction. But IF he knew more about campaign finance law, it MIGHT be a criminal violation. And IF Trump tried to cover it up, THEN he MIGHT be guilty of obstruction.
Of course, none of this was proved. It’s just an interesting theory that fits some of the evidence. Kind of like how Jesus Christ MIGHT have fathered a blood line that became French kings and Knights Templar and whatever. It’s a juicy story as long as one doesn’t scrutinize it too closely.
Even the main source of the election “interference” of IRA, hasn’t been linked to the Russian government. Mueller was chided in court for suggesting such without evidence. And even if it were true, IRA spent about $46k on ads before the election. That’s the threat to democracy? Trump and Russia colluded through bag men and intermediaries so that Russia could spend a whopping $46k to influence the election?
Yawn.
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Russians.
Konstantin Kilimnik has been employed as Russian Intelligence Officer. Oleg Deripaska, to whom Manafort instructed Kilimnik to give the data, is Russian, and one of Vladimir Putin’s closest confidants.
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I had to make an account just to stand in awe of what I just witnessed. A Russiagate Truther passionately complains that on 5% of the American public is aware of the fact that Manafort fed Trump campaign info to the Russians. You corrected him, pointing out that the allegation was that he shared the info with Ukranians. He insisted it was Russians, and then you posted the FakeNews retraction admitting that the Manafort-Russian story was wrong. It’s just… poetic. I’m sure that Rick is scouring the internet for a new place to hang his Russian Conspiracy hat right now. What else is he supposed to do with all of the pent-up rage about the Bad Orange Man? The TV claims he is Hitler reincarnate, after all!
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I guess the new standard today is 1)accuse someone of a crime 2)investigate the crime, then 3) when there is NO evidence of guilt, state publicly that the target has not been totally exonerated. Go DAWGS!
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Over 1000 former federal prosecutors agree that based on the evidence in the report, it is totally unanambiguous that Donald Trump would be prosecuted, and almost certainly convicted and imprisoned, if not for being protected by his office.
View at Medium.com
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Process crimes for the win! It’s the best consolation when there’s no there there.
For the record, I also think it’s stupid when proles are arrested for resisting arrest with no other charges.
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Just as one example: One of the acts of obstruction was dangling pardons to Manafort, which successfully kept him from flipping.
Manafort continuously shared internal polling data and campaign strategy with one of Putin’s closest oligarchs via a Russian Intelligence Officer.
Because he never flipped, we have no idea why Manafort was doing this, or whether Trump knew.
These aren’t “process” crimes. It’s successful obstruction of justice that very well may have successfully concealed a conspiracy with Russian intelligence to interfere in the election.
That’s the entire point of obstruction. And, again, that is just one of the several counts of obstruction proven in the report.
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I just want everyone to know that Rick has never been exonerated of beating his wife. I looked for two years, and hired some of his most passionate critics, but we were unable to completely prove his innocence.
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It is also now considered obstruction of justice when you defend yourself against these crimes.
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I resemble that remark.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/georgia-lawmaker-claims-chick-fil-a-employee-told-her-to-go-back-to-where-she-came-from-later-clarifies-he-actually-just-said-my-pleasure
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Meet my campaign director and PIO- DEREK!!!
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/23/georgia-woman-fires-gun-mcdonalds-after-getting-cold-fries-reports/1808936001/
‘Florida Man’ is now getting upstaged by ‘Georgia Woman’.
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At least the McDonalds woman wasn’t a Georgia lawmaker.
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The lawmakers are idiots, but also our laws are the gold standard LOL. Perfect troll logic.
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I refer all of you to the report.
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Robert Mueller’s Day Off…
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to right
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
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Planning for the Cocktail Party this year: what’s the deal with Amelia Island? I’ve never been.
Was looking at St. Simons and Jekyll b/c that’s comfy and I’m used to those, but the Senator and co. seem to prefer Amelia. Can y’all give me the scoop?
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Don’t go, too crowded…
Honestly, the Villas at Amelia Island are the way to go. Downtown Fernandina is nice too. A little closer to Jax when the time comes too.
Honestly, your question is a breath of fresh air amongst this hog pen of comments.
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Yes I’ve been referring to the playpen as the pigpen as well.
Are the villas part of Omni property?
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Sort of…just google Villa’s at Amelia Island. You can get a golf view 2 BR/2 BA for around $200 per night…
IF you go, you can Uber into downtown Fernandina, bars/restaurants/some shopping etc there…lots of UGA fans. Salty Pelican on the waterfront is one of my favorites in that area.
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Many thanks!
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In Fernandina, you’ve got to check out 29 South.
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I was just at the Omni for a CLE and enjoyed it (had never been to Amelia). I had a “villa” which is really a condo on the Omni property owned by an individual but is rented through the Omni. It was relatively inexpensive for the time of year, etc.
Had a great meal at Down Under which is under the bridge from mainland to Fernandina. Got to see a railroad swivel bridge in motion which was pretty neat.
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Nadler is nothing more than a self serving piece of shit as is ole bug-eyed “I have proof” Schiff.
I love watching them throw shit on the wall hoping something will stick all while knowing full well they have NOTHING.
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I love it
Russia if you’re listening!
“I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected.“
Trump on 5.30.19 at 6:57:47
Nothing to worry about. Unless you’re an American. Good day traitor.
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Copy pasta for the win! Thanks for cracking the case wide open, Derek. Just more proof the Mueller is a Russian spy because he didn’t put the smoking gun tweet in his report!
FWIW, also Trump just after tweeting the above:
“No, Russia did not help me get elected. You know who got me elected? I got me elected. Russia didn’t help me at all.”
Do we trust Trump? Or Trump? Is it plausible that he clarified a misstatement? Or that he intentionally admitted a crime just to rub conspiracy theorists’ noses in it? Only deranged middle schoolers know for sure.
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I’m amazed that Derek hasn’t been called before the House Committee today (or any other day) to offer his keen insight and intelligence. It is so refreshing that on this humble blog, Derek imparts such wisdom to us.
Also. How’s that going with Erica Thomas Derek? That Trump’s fault she lied? Yeah. I thought so.
Life is so easy when you can blame everyone else for your problems.
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After Clinton’s stunning defeat, Russian “collusion”—thanks initially to efforts by Obama holdover Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates to go after Michael Flynn and the successful attempts of the CIA and FBI to seed the bogus Steele dossier among the government elite—became a club to destroy the incoming Trump Administration.
How ironic that Russian “collusion” was used as a preemptive charge from those who actually had colluded with Russians for all sorts for financial and careerist advantages.
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This is what gets me. Most of us know that a lot of Trump’s tweets are meant to tweak the opposition. It seems that the more fervent of the opposition have no ability to recognize this and then proceed to almost burst a blood vessel. It’s funny, really.
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I know Russia certainly influenced my vote!
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I can’t be the only one who realizes that Trump’s tweets are not from him, but from his staff, and are well thought out in order to best deliver his administrations intended message. You guys know he doesn’t do this shit a night from his bed while next to Melania right? I doubt he even knows how to use a smart phone. Why would he.
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OMG. You’ve completely destroyed Derek’s world!!!
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Actually there was some reporting on this in either 2016 or perhaps 2017 regarding this subject. Before 2017, any tweet that listed an android as the source was all Trump. His staffers used iPhones.
However, since 2017 he had to convert to an iPhone for security reasons I guess. Wired reported that Trump isn’t Tech Savvy so any links to videos etc that require more than retweet, a # or @ are probably a staffer.
If there are typos, unverified videos, etc or if the tweet happens between 6:30 pm and 9:00 am then it is likely from Trump himself.
It is an interesting read:
https://www.wired.com/story/tell-when-someone-else-tweets-from-realdonaldtrump/
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LMAO that you think he sleeps next to Melania
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Melania has rarely slept in the White House, let alone Trimp’s bed, friend.
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Over/Under on timeline for Epstein being suicided?
That POS has a lot of info that a lot of elites (across the political spectrum) don’t want out, and I don’t think he makes it through 2019.
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Sounds like a great Grisham book.
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If any of you traitors are wondering, yes, I’m enjoying the rent free space in your heads.
It is quite roomy and breezy in there.
Enjoy your continued DDS, traitors.
https://traveltips.usatoday.com/russias-immigration-laws-63671.html
Sign up now and join Agolf Shitler later. I’m sure GRU can make use of you idiots.
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Here you go, Derek. Fuck all those fucking fuckers.
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How old are you Derek? Just curious how long it takes to became a complete bore.
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Well a Clinton is involved, so an Arkancide is a real possibility. 2 shots in the back of the head while falling down some stairs.
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Please let us know how we can help you continue to spread your message as much as possible.
Best Regards,
President Trump’s 2020 Re-Election Campaign
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Come on GRU!!
“I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected.“
Trump on 5.30.19 at 6:57:47
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It never gets old, man.
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To put it simply, Donald Trump is innocent of collusion with Russia in the same sense that Hillary Clinton is innocent of gross negligence regarding her handling of classified emails. Basically an OJ Simpson level of innocence.
If it weren’t for their positions of power they would both be in jail. Period. #LockThemUp
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If only someone could conduct an investigation to uncover Trump’s crimes. A prosecutor, yes, but perhaps even a “special” prosecutor. Then we could prove how Trump, Putin, and an international cabal conspired to spend $46,000 on Facebook ads to steal Hillary’s election.
Trigger alert. The following is a Russian meme that could lead to the fall of Western democracy if too many people view it. Please wash your eyes with bleach after viewing. Especially you, Derek. You have been warned.
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If only the office of the presidency didn’t shield Trump from being charged for the obstruction of justice that was uncovered.
As I said he and Hillary are both equally innocent/guilty. I’ll let you decide for yourself as to the extent.
Nice meme btw. I especially like how the losing army of the racist south is promptly represented in the background for seemingly no reason. This is Russian MAGA to the core lol. I gotta give them this, they know their target audience better than most.
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Yeah. As I said, I’m no big fan of process crimes. If Trump actually schemed with Russia to win the election, lock him up. Just as Hillary actually schemed to keep her emails private to avoid FOIA requests.
But not cooperating with investigations just doesn’t raise my hackles that much.
And yeah, memes perpetuating the righteous cause myth of the Civil War are always a crowd pleaser. It’s imagery like that that works up Brennan, Clapper, et al to come up with insurance policies in case the wrong candidate wins.
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“Just as Hillary actually schemed to keep her emails private to avoid FOIA requests.
So you’re saying that Hillary’s lack of cooperation doesn’t raise your hackles right?
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In terms of obstruction, I think her destroying evidence is worse than Trump considering pardoning someone, or trying to fire Mueller. But it’s still just a process crime. Prosecute her for keeping the private server, or let it go.
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Or actually firing Comey, or refusing to be interviewed by the FBI, or publicly contemplating a self pardon, or encouraging/intimidating others to not cooperate with Mueller’s investigation.
I swear Trump supporters would pay him $20 to tea bag their own mothers, and frame a picture of it lol.
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Not a crime, not a crime, not a crime.
Remember when Susan McDougal sat in jail for 18 months rather than answer questions about the Clintons, and then Bill pardoned her? I’m guessing you were outraged at Bill’s actions, right?
I have said. If Trump is guilty of an actual crime, then get him. But making leftists cry isn’t a crime. And bending over so that Brennan, Clapper, and Comey can spend years trying to gin up something to hang on him isn’t required.
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I was in middle school during the Clinton era, and I was raised in the conservative south so I’m sure I was outraged by Clinton’s actions strictly by proxy, much in the same way bay you support Trump. Idk who Susan McDougal is.
I’m not interested in the semantics of how each side of the aisle chooses to interpret the Law. Clinton mishandled classified information. Trump obstructed justice and at the very least he attempted to collude with Russia. They should both be in jail.
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I’m not a Trump supporter. I’m just not someone who lets Rachel Maddow get me into a lather on how Donald Trump is literally Hitler. Maybe Trump tried to collude with Russia. It’s a pretty outlandish idea. But I haven’t seen any real evidence of it. And Mueller’s investigation didn’t turn up much that was solid. So all we’ve got are hints and innuendo and Derek’s favorite tweet that he breaks out 17 times per playpen.
Obstruction is different. As I’ve said, I’m not a real fan of process crimes. Clinton seems to have committed obstruction by destroying evidence. But Trump firing Comey wasn’t obstruction. As president, he gets to hire and fire people in his administration for any reason, or no reason. Comey wasn’t in a union. And Trump promising a pardon isn’t really a crime, either. It’s his prerogative.
At this point, Trump’s greatest crimes seems to be driving leftists nuts and depriving Hillary of her birthright. That doesn’t even make him a bad guy. It certainly doesn’t make him a Russian agent or a criminal.
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The fact that you aren’t even marginally concerned about why a sitting president would want to fire an FBI director speaks volumes about who you support. Those might be the rules, but they are exceptionally dumb rules. If Obama did the same you’d be throwing a perpetual shit fit.
Attempted murder is a crime. Possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute is a crime. So why would attempted collusion with a hostile foreign government be a crime? What’s worse selling a few pills or committing treason?
I’ve never once watched Maddow, but I’m starting to think this is Tucker Carlson’s account.
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LOL.
When they say, “I’m not a Trump supporter”…
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Let your curiosity flow. It’s just not a crime to fire an FBI director. Especially when the AG and deputy AG recommend doing it. Especially when the FBI director is a grandstanding leaker hostile to your administration.
Again, get Trump on collusion, or attempted collusion, or considered collusion, or wished upon a star collusion if you can. But don’t join the leftist mob in being so sure that Trump is a traitor that, when you can’t find evidence of it, you go looking for crimes from his tax returns from 20 years ago, or you try to criminalize legitimate acts of a sitting president. That’s not how the rule of law is supposed to work.
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I gotcha, but if it’s Obama’s birth certificate then it’s a problem. Say what you want about fairness or whether or not something is a crime, but at the very least Mueller is giving Trump a dose of his own bullshit and it’s well deserved after being the champion of the birther movement even if all of this is just a shit ton of blinding smoke with somehow no fire.
In any event, with that line of thinking deleting emails off of your own private server isn’t a crime. Why would Hillary want to delete them? Doesn’t matter just like it doesn’t matter why Trump would want to fire Comey on the advice of two of his own croney yes men. Sure Trump was coming under fire for possible collusion, but it’s not against the law so…
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Expand your mind, Bluto. Politics is bigger than #OrangeManBad vs MAGA.
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Morals and research lol. Info Wars and QAnon don’t count as research.
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I’m not arguing Trump isn’t an asshole. I’m just pointing out that he’s not a criminal. If you believe that settling political scores, especially against Republicans, is a legitimate function of the DOJ, I’ll just agree to disagree.
And I’m not arguing that obstruction isn’t a crime. I’m pointing out that it’s a process crime that doesn’t get me excited. Process crimes often create criminals where none existed before. If a cop thinks you have drugs, roughs you up, can’t find any, and arrests you for resisting arrest, justice wasn’t served. Similarly, if the best the leftists can do is complain that Trump didn’t cooperate enough with the effort to impeach him, I’m not impressed.
FWIW, my primary political stance is that people should leave others alone. Don’t initiate aggression against others. Respect their property rights. It’s amusing that you dismiss positions stemming from these basic tenets as crackpot QAnon stuff. I guess perpetual war and the rule of the elites is what sophisticated thinkers prefer, eh?
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That would all be well and good, but you’re not applying the same standard to democrats as evidenced by your strong stance against Hillary who has been accused and never charged of high level negligence as opposed to the much greater crime (imo) of treason and conspiring with a foreign government.
If you’re even marginally paying attention it’s been made clear that Trump obstructed justice but can’t be charged on the technicality that he’s the president. That is a crime, and whether or not it excites you is irrelevant. You love the law, Trump broke it.
Anyway, if you were to shrug both Hillary and Trump’s investigations off as much ado about nothing then we might be able to take you seriously, but you’ve quite clearly chosen a side, and therefore you are QAnon troll masquerading as some kind of libertarian.
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You’re the inconsistent one. I say lock Hillary up for her illegal server. Don’t get her on failing to cooperate with the investigation into her illegal server. There is a difference that you’re failing to grasp. If Trump colluded, lock him up. Don’t lock him up for not cooperating with the investigation, or for legally firing a hostile FBI director, or for tweeting mean things about AOC.
I have been marginally paying attention to the investigation. And I see stories corrected and bombshells walked back. So we’re back to hints and innuendo. And you’re the one peddling it. Trump must have known that a low level staffer’s sister’s barber is a Russian troll who coordinated to spend 0.05% as much on ads as the campaigns did. Lock him up.
I’m the guy requesting evidence. And you call me a troll. #irony
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Read carefully troll. Hillary used an illegal server. Trump obstructed justice. Both are proven facts and are also crimes. They should both be in jail.
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Repetition doesn’t equal truth. Claiming that firing Comey is obstruction doesn’t make it so. Trump is authorized by the Constitution to fire Comey. I’m still amused that insisting on evidence is “trolling.” Don’t worry, you can get your fix of Maddow tonight and I’m sure she’ll be super triggered over the mean stuff that Trump could legally do. But we shouldn’t care about the law. We should only care about sticking it to Republicans, right?
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Oh, I see what’s going on here meme troll. Reread my most recent comment for the part about Comey that doesn’t exist. I’m interested in the Comey situation and you’re not. That’s fine and also irrelevant to my point that I told you to read carefully.
The appointed special counsel concluded that Trump obstructed justice therefore according to the law he did so and would be indicted if not for being shielded by the DOJ. That is a crime therefore you want Trump imprisoned. Congratulations for making it so easy to destroy you.
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You continue to be full of shit. Here is the Mueller report’s statement on obstruction. “While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”
It’s telling how you can read the above statement and interpret it as exactly the opposite of what it clearly states. Only a first class Rachel Maddow acolyte can believe that, when Mueller doesn’t conclude Trump committed a crime, that means Mueller proved Trump committed a crime. A precious case of TDS.
This one’s for you.
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How do you read Trump’s “EXONERATED” tweets? How does your Trump mind interpret that well thought out soliloquy?
Your ebaumsworld meme cannot be found troll. Pretty sure you said elsewhere on this thread that Mueller was a rambling senile old man, but now his report is your prized piece of evidence LOL. This is why I love trolls. So easy to dominate, and they always keep coming back for more.
Anyway, if you’re interested in what Mueller has to say about it here you go.
Lieu – “I believe a reasonable person looking at these facts could conclude that all three elements of the crime of obstruction of justice have been met, and I’d like to ask you the reason, again, you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC (the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel) opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?”
Mueller – “That is correct.”
BTW I really just started looking into this stuff yesterday. Turns out it isn’t complicated at all, but for some reason Trump Trolls can’t wrap their head around the fact that the only thing keeping him from prison is the OLC technicality.
via MEME
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Another one for you.
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#whataboutism
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I’m simply being consistent. If Trump considering pardons is impeachable, so is Clinton’s actual pardoning of a business partner who sat in jail rather than go on the record about Clinton’s actions be impeachable.
Personally, I think neither one is impeachable. But I’m not an hysterical leftist whose only political thought is #OrangeManBad.
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Keep beating that dead horse. Mueller’s report is the definitive work on Trump’s alleged collusion and obstruction. It’s adorable that you think your 10 minutes of Rachel Maddow on YouTube has uncovered more than the team of investigators with subpoena power.
Just keep stating that Trump is a criminal. He’s has definitely, for sure, committed vague and nameless crimes that investigators can’t quite gather the evidence for. But they probably haven’t tried your whole speaking it into existence approach. Good job.
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Well I hate this. You had to get political. I always enjoyed your column. Won’t read you again.
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Finally a funny GIF from the man….
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Yes, you will
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It’s not a column
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A change of subject FYI, I saw Michael Davenport painting by the Westside Publix this morning so it looks like he’s back at it after being attacked a couple weeks ago.
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Good to hear. Guy has always been a friendly face around town.
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If Mueller were my father I’d take his keys….yesterday.
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“Maybe Trump tried to collude with Russia. It’s a pretty outlandish idea. But I haven’t seen any real evidence of it.” -Napoleon B.
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Blah, blah, blah. A politician grandstanding with a befuddled old man as a prop isn’t evidence. Mueller wasn’t familiar with Fusion GPS. 🙂
The actual report stated there wasn’t enough evidence to prosecute Trump. The report written by a one-sided staff hostile to Trump, who was given years and tens of millions of dollars and subpoena power, couldn’t turn up the evidence.
So, by all means, keep agitating that a lack of evidence is actually evidence. That Trump must prove a negative to establish his innocence. That a real estate tycoon trying to build a hotel is criminal. Good luck to you. I just don’t see it going anywhere. And I sure don’t see it heading to impeachment, or establishing collusion.
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He could shoot a man on 5th Avenue and not lose a vote.
In fact, they’d say he’s innocent.
Hoax!! Witch hunt!! Fake video!! Fake confession!! False flag!! They faked it all!!
Presenting these traitorous idiots facts is about as valuable as reading a cat Shakespeare.
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Exactly. Our altruistic government bureaucrats wouldn’t lie to us. Not again. Not about something so important. Never question authority. Whether it’s fbi directors or middle school teachers.
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By the way, this is fucking hilarious.
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Now Derek has more proof of collusion! This can’t be a nice prank played on Trump. NO! It’s more of the undeniable evidence of Trump’s status as a Russian agent. I can’t wait for future playpens to have this image plastered all over.
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Lighten up, Francis.
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Copypasta is serious fucking business, pal.
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That Meme trolling sure looks exhausting.
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